why is it that the only resistance to anti imperialism really doing anything is shia islam
>hezbollah actively fighting Israel like warriors
>houthis closing straits liberating their land
>irgc closing straits bombing us bases
>western left is so pussyfied worrying about if working out is fascism and if its not that its democratic socialist dsa slop should we all just convert to shia Islam and start jihad on the capitalists is that the only way we stop being soy libtards?
YA HUSSAIN(A.S) YA ZAINAB(R.A) YA ALI(A.S)
Shia Islam is the spiritual successor of Bolshevism.
Cope and seethe turd worldists.
Shia Islam will accidentally bring us Communism.
>>2912711So has anyone here read Red Shia, Black Shia by Ali Shariati? This is probably the best pick right now for a book club considering current events
>>2912715nah but imma tap in sounds interesting
>>2912721Ok, why are sunnifags only good at slurping bawls of america on weekdays and ziodemons on weekends?
>>2912725Hamas are sunni and not like that
Logical end point of third worldism. The dumbest shit ever.
Fuck socialism, fuck the working class, fuck women, and fuck queers I guess.
Look, I get you third worldist jihadis mean well, but the fact that Shiites are fighting against the greatest evils of today doesn't equate to their ideology of economically liberal, socially Hitlerian, theocratic idealism being correct.
The fact we share a common enemy with them doesn't validate their ideology and religion.
You should encourage leftists to do more. Not abandon class war for Islam purely on the basis of comparing who currently has the larger fighting force against the Epsteinites.
>>2912725They were genuine questions, make no mistake. What
about these groups make them so efficacious? Certainly not their religion alone though their bravery against the imperialists is no doubt bolstered by their faith.
>>2912731I mean living under sanctions for decades, surviving economic sanctions, or a cholera epidemic just makes you tougher because you have to be to survive.
>>2912721>>2912727i agree on the we should care about all those things but i think the theological aspect is why they are willing to lay their lives on the line i think the reason the west is so pussy is because we dont belive in shit
>we die we just another dead uygha
>shia dies he reaches Martyrdom and reunited haydar
>im the op btw pc had to restart >>2912734>i think the reason the west is so pussy is because we dont belive in shit Depends on who you ask in the west. I certainly think that there is a significant portion of first world proletarians who sinerely believe in their nation/status quo in an almost theological way. Christian nationalists and zionists for example, both seemingly willing to die
for imperialism. Frankly, I think the struggle of communist forces in the imperial core isn't one of faith or conviction but of technical and social skill in the shadow of incredible state repression and ideological hegemony.
>>2912739i agree with you but if the left could grasp the power of theology it would only strengthen the movement we need warriors and soldiers carrying the red banner we bust be stronger more willing to die more willing to kill then the fascists and we may not need religion but i think it only strengthens our movement
>>2912743The trait you’re looking for is zealotry, which doesn’t necessarily have to be religious it’s just the most common
>>2912743Just be careful. Zealous idiocy from a revolutionary is just as dangerous as a halfhearted but intelligent counter revolutionary.
>>2912744okay but tell me 9/10 who are you choosing to sacrifice themselves for a war non believer atheist cuck or the man of faith who believes his god is sending him on righteous mission of sacrifice i know my pick and they will be blessed
>>2912744Zealotry is good but not enough.
Assuming you have some hinterland, Shared perception and experience of enemy is important. Sometimes the enemy by lumping together its opponents forces them to look each other as one body.
This is how zionists became the political nightmare they are today. The Shias will have the acumen the zionists have but their beliefs will be more universal and hence popular with the masses. Sprinkle in some economic justice and you got a nice proto-communist movement right there. Assuming America doesnt go batshit and deploy palantir nukes.
>>2912726Modern Hamas are exception and mostly outside of their control. Hamas in 2023 was different from Hamas in 1987.
>>2912739Zionists/chrisnats dont want to die for imperialism. They want to kill for imperialism.
>>2912727>SocialismSocialism will come from these heterodox movements once they strive against the hucksters and richfags. They are already poor with vengeance for the comprador bourgeoise of their countries
>Working classThey are the working class
>WomenWomen were never an independent political force. Read Robert Filmer's Patriarcha. John Locke was a retarded idealist. Kim Jong Un's daughter will be a manly matriarch when she ascends the throne. She will be korean Balalaika from black lagoon.
>QueersQueers in large numbers only exist in the west after artificial propping up. They are not even a sizeable minority in the third world, and they are not an ideological group.
Sorry leftychud but the lumpen pirates of the arabian are the new bolsheviks.
>>2912749It would be an honor fighting on your side comrade.
>>2912753>Zionists/chrisnats dont want to die for imperialism. They want to kill for imperialism.Live by the sword, die by the sword. There are certainly proles who'd die for reaction but you're right. The opressed have nothing to loose but their chains. Still, we must be careful to approach these movements with sobriety if we're to model anything off them.
Honestly if you are only willing to die for a cause if it means you go to heaven, you are a coward.
I think that
>>2912721 raised good questions and I think that the organizational form plays a larger role here than the ideological superstructure.
I would agree to a point that religious zealotry highly motivates organizational discipline but I would disagree that religious zealotry alone gives rise to organizational structures. I think that in particular the Houthis are this effective because they adapted organizationally for 21. century guerilla warfare. The religious zealotry just amplifies this organizational success.
But this also leads me to question if the tactics of guerilla warfare employed by the Houthis are applicable to densely settled urban landscapes in Europe and America which are generally speaking flat. No, I think that we should by all means celebrate the struggle of the Emir of Afghanistan but, as was written in the Theses on the National and Colonial Question (1920) (of course, taken in context when this was written, but there are general lessons to be extracted)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/jun/05.htm>With regard to the more backward states and nations, in which feudal or patriarchal and patriarchal-peasant relations predominate, it is particularly important to bear in mind:<first, that all Communist parties must assist the bourgeois-democratic liberation movement in these countries, and that the duty of rendering the most active assistance rests primarily with the workers of the country the backward nation is colonially or financially dependent on;<second, the need for a struggle against the clergy and other influential reactionary and medieval elements in backward countries;<third, the need to combat Pan-Islamism and similar trends, which strive to combine the liberation movement against European and American imperialism with an attempt to strengthen the positions of the khans, landowners, mullahs, etc.;[In the proofs Lenin inserted a brace opposite points 2 and 3 and wrote “2 and 3 to be united”.—Editor.]…
<sixth, the need constantly to explain and expose among the broadest working masses of all countries, and particularly of the backward countries, the deception systematically practised by the imperialist powers, which, under the guise of politically independent states, set up states that are wholly dependent upon them economically, financially and militarily. What we should learn from the Houthis is that zealotry and adaptability to new situations are important parts of a successful movement. And I think class zealotry is the only genuine zealotry you can rile up in the West, against the ruling class (whose ideology and zealotry are Zionist) that wouldn't just be a foreign import like Islam or some kind of unorganically grown Christian microsect.
>>2912916How is the unspeakable suchness any different from Lacan's concept of Real?
<Tathātā (/ˌtætəˈtɑː/; Sanskrit: तथाता; Pali: tathatā) is a Buddhist term often translated as Thusness or Suchness. It is the intrinsic and essential nature of all existences, free from dualistic thinking, conceptualization, and subject–object distinction.[1] It represents the genuine reality of existence, which transcends physical forms, physical senses, and intellectual comprehension, indicating a profound insight into the nature of things as they truly are>In continental philosophy, the Real refers to reality in its unmediated form.[1] In Lacanian psychoanalysis, it is an "impossible" category because of its inconceivability and opposition to expression.[2][3]Aren't you just dancing to the tune of western Marxism?
>>2912961This is the destiny of America.
>>2912963And it will be glorious
Cowboy AnsarAllah
>>2912739>willing to dieThis is the deciding factor. Any effective action will put your life in danger.
>>2912961>But what people are missing is that a lot of people in Yemen are part of tribes and clans, and the entire tribe is usually armed. These are big extended families of brothers and cousins and uncles.Also important. The main problem in organizing for any illegal activity is knowing who you can trust. These people know they can trust each other because they're family and have known each other their whole lives.
>>2912711shia islam predates bolshevism by 1280 odd years
>>2912709The best way to oppose imperialism is not with violence… It is with peaceful development and by developing a great socialist nation outside of imperialist control. To prove to the world that is possible to prosperous without imperialism.
You cannot just offer people a chance for martyrdom against imperialism, they have to actually see that a better way of life is possible outside of imperialism. That is why what China is doing is so important: it is demonstrating that a better life is possible outside of the West. Anti-imperialism offers more then just death and martyrdrom at the hands of the West but a chance for a better life as well.
The USSR tried to violently oppose imperialism in the cold war and look where that got them. Communists cannot oppose imperialism through violence. However, the Islamists can.
However, the Islamists are unlikely to create successful states that give people an alternative to the West to look towards. They are more likely to form failed states that oppress women and workers and that suffer from starvation and poverty. So we need China (and the remaining socialist countries) to demonstrate that it is possible to create successful states outside of imperialism.
Both China and the Islamists have their own roles to play. Everyone has their own role to play in the grand unfolding of history and the forward march of progress.
Because Shia and Sunni socitietes still provide pussy to their males
NO PUSSY NO WORK
NO PUSSY NO WAR
HE WHO DOES NOT FUCK DOES NOT FIGHT
>>2912920>india invented western marxism 3000 years ago gandalfwoah…
>>2913224>ignores historyYou mean the faction that had to be curtailed because of loss of support?
It got so bad that atheists had to promote christianity and islam in order to get support for communism.
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