/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2915476
Anti-monarchism is generally just faggotry. It usually just means removing monarchs and replacing them with a bunch of nebulous capitalist investors who are harder to keep accountable.

>>2915476
>the inherent conservatism/patriotism of the average person
smuggled assumption; provide proof

>>2915482
Britain is already capitalist and was the first capitalist country. Anti Monarchism in this context doesn't mean introducing more capitalism, it just means subtracting the vestigial appendages of feudalism. That being said, you are right that it fails to address capitalism, I just wouldn't characterize it as "replacing monarch with investors".

>>2915482
What's up with the sudden influx of rightoids here?

>>2915484
Whether or not a country is a monarchy isn't something that affects people's daily lives, and so most people will just passively support the status quo, whatever that happens to be. If you were to walk around the streets of London and ask people if we should abolish the monarchy, most people would say words to the effect of "No, what would be the point in that?", walk around the streets of Seoul asking if Korea should restore its monarchy, and you'd probably get the same answer.

That's why monarchies pretty much only get abolished in times of political turmoil, and usually aren't ever restored after that, and therefore the number of them has been going down. Not just because they're intrinsically immoral or something, but because monarchy is a fairly inconsequential, incidental institution.

>>2915482
>t.

And I agree with you.

>>2915491
Might be my fault kek.

>>2915482
At least the nebulous capitalists are not by blood above the law, fuck em. Time to finally rid the world of this retarded remnant of pre-modernity.

>>2915476
meaningless culture war nonsense

>>2915527
Profoundly anti-democratic antiquated bourgeois institutions, How is it "meaningless culture war nonsense
"? Just because you didn't think about it much before doesn't mean that it doesn't matter. much of the population doesn't see the problem in hereditary authorities or the deeply reactionary culture behind it and you don't care.

>>2915531
modern monarchs have no power
having a hereditary powerless pedophile as head of state or having an elected powerless pedophile as head of state makes no difference

Monarchies, especially modern ones existing in a liberal democracy, are a net drain on society. They hold up wealth and can be considered parasites. If you told Marx and Engels that in 2026 we are still plaqued with monarchs he probably wouldnt believe you. Same with Religion. Think is, people do get overall less religious but the superstructure still lacks behind alot. Birthmarks of feudalism.

>>2915534
>Both systems have flaws so there's no point criticizing the clearly worse one
Are there even any leftists on here?

>>2915546
>monarchy is worse because it just is ok
again, it literally does not matter one single bit beyond optics

>>2915539
In my shithole people are not in the slightest religious, but will still bahs your head in fpr not being orthodox. They will drink, overeat, swear and fight, but still have monasteries and mother mary tattoos

>>2915574
Religious people have always been hypocritical and mostly used it as an excuse to bash gays. Religion has always been incredibly degenerate.

>>2916035
It was less hypocritical when pagan gods were jealous, lustful, and avaricious like people

>>2915491
my hunch is the smarter ones are getting tired of talking to LLMs and fetishists over at 4cuck and are starting to fan out to other imageboards that might be slower but have actual people on them.

>>2916039
How do you even reliably track which posts are LLM?

>>2915495
Also establishing a new monarchy usually comes when a family consolidates power. But the two superpowers after 1945 were hardened Republicans so the status quo preferred that format. Any other time Syria(Assads) and Iraq(Husseins) would have just announced they are a kingdom but being a republic gave better pr legitimacy for the two superpowers during the Cold War

>>2916035
>mostly used it as an excuse to bash gays
Don't need religion for that

>>2915491
I am not even a right winger. I have written some of the harshest criticisms of monarchy and the tsar and in defense of the Russian revolution. That criticism of monarchy was good. I support executing the tsar. That is why I said most and not all criticism of monarchy is "faggotry." Anti-monarchism is good when it comes from communists.

Revolution against a monarchy has to be communist. Otherwise you are just replacing an easy target (a monarch) with a nebulous group of investors that is harder to defeat. In effect this kind of anti-monarchism strengthens the class system instead of overcoming it. This is why my alarm bells immediately went off when I saw the OP prattling on about abolishing the monarchy without talking about abolishing capitalism. Frankly I think this thread is stupid and that is the basis of my reaction.
>>2915497
>At least the nebulous capitalists are not by blood above the law, fuck em.
What is this bullshit idealism? Nebulous capitalists are above the law, that is why we call it called bourgeoisie law. This is Marxism 101. Its much easier for us to deal with monarchs in the modern day. We know where they live and we know how to behead them.
>Time to finally rid the world of this retarded remnant of pre-modernity.
What for? For more capitalism? Do you think McDonalds burgers will taste better iff there is no king in Buckingham palace?
>>2915527
good post
>>2916039
There are no right wingers in this thread. I made the post the person was complaining about and I am not a right winger. Instead of making up things about people come here from 4chan why don't you talk about the influx of redditors here. This thread talking about abolishing monarchy without establishing communism should be on reddit.com/r/politics.

>>2915491
They’ve come to seethe over their recent and ever increasing failures and losses

>>2916075
>muh reddit
yes ik you got an account there lil bro

>>2916075
>What is this bullshit idealism? Nebulous capitalists are above the law, that is why we call it called bourgeoisie law. This is Marxism 101. Its much easier for us to deal with monarchs in the modern day. We know where they live and we know how to behead them.
You know what, you're right. I just really hate these incestuous parasites, their pomp and the retards defending their backwards institution.

If republican sentiment is on the rise, I would say that is a good thing. It is often only the workers' parties in these nations that want to abolish the monarchy, so that should be an opportunity for us.