Karl Marx: Petty bourgeois, descended from rabbis of Trier, father was lawyer
Friedrich Engels: Bourgeois, son of factory owner
Vladimir Lenin: Petty bourgeois, middle peasant, father was a local school official, active state councillor, and had minor noble privileges
Joseph Stalin: Proletarian, but mother set him up in seminary school so he could become clergy
Mao Zedong: Middle peasant. Father was a moneylender and grain merchant with 20 acres of land
Mikhail Bakunin: Russian noble
Peter Kropotokin: Prince, son of a serf-owning nobleman
August Willich: German noble
"Iron" Felix Dzherzhinsky: Russian noble
Fidel Castro: Son of plantation owner, Lawyer
Robespierre: Lawyer
Toussaint Louverture: Liberated slave who went on to own his own land and his own slaves
Simon Bolivar: Wealthy but orphaned, raise by an enslaved wet nurse named Hipolita who he only emancipated after she got old.
George Washington: Plantation owner, slave owner
Thomas Jefferson: Plantation owner, slave owner
Oliver Cromwell: landed gentry
Amadeo Bordiga: Son of academics, grandson of a Count
Gracchi Brothers: Wealthy landowners
All of the great communist revolutionaries, with the exception of Stalin, were not of the proletarian class. Same with the prominent anarchists and great bourgeois revolutionaries.
Mike Duncan (a bourgeois liberal) claims that, as a rule, revolutions are led by defectors from the ruling class. Despite his political leanings, I think there is strong evidence for his claim. So are the true revolutionary subject class traitors from the ruling class?
>>2915782I really think conditions today are very different from the past. We simply have much wider literacy and education (albeit full of propaganda). The bourgeoisie are also increasingly ignorant and no longer as involved in the sciences as they once were. Yes, the engineer is a labor aristocrat. But they will be far more likely to go over to the side of the proletariat than the bourgeoisie.
So elite overproduction?
>>2915789anything to do with popular forms of elite theory is usually slop and not worth taking seriously
>worker's in sectors where mental work dominantes over physical work develop more abstract thinking skills and can engage in society in a different manner, and can also set up the organizations which can empower physical workers to lead the state
<this is bad because we want a movement of reactionary retarded lumpenproles
woah
Um ackshually Felix was Polish, not Russian. One of the only cool Polish people to have ever been born.
>>2915829Thank you for giving the game away. Marxism is the opium of the intellectual.
>>2915829>this is badwhere did OP imply that, shadowboxingking?
>>2915829orangetext is completely made up horse shit nobody said
greentext is correct but also derived and not quoted
>>2915978nobody said it was "bad" though. why are you agreeing with a guy who made up shit nobody said or implied