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The question is, presuming it's possible without forever balkanizing the country,
What would a Socialist America be like?

I would have just posted this in /USApol/ but I feel the question is dense enough to necessitate a thread of it's own.

it would look like indigenous workerchads deporting all the Eusanos back to Evropa


>>2920641
What is this from?

>>2920641
So decent housing, consumer goods, and new political organization?

Shit load of councils

>>2920639
>>2920639
Would looks like natives deporting natives that conquer and massacred them before and so on for forth, a eternal cycle of old bitter rivalry until there no one left, white? Killed or deported, black? Killed or deported? Other natives that aren't from my tribe? Killed or deported too.

I already know what its gonna look like but im not done my pamplet

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>>2920637 I'm writing a short story, hopefully turned into a YouTube video, to be released on May 1st of 2027 about this exact thing. It's about showing what life would look like through the eyes of an everyday American worker under an early-stage socialist economic system and state. But to summarize and condense it: nationalization of the commanding heights of industry, the placing of all means of production in the hands of democratically run trade unions, the decommodification of housing, utility, healthcare, basic foods and clothing, essential miscellaneous goods, the start of massive public works projects in large part to mitigate climate disasters, heavy economic planning of energy production and industry to shift towards renewables and fighting The Climate tm, the abolition of the Electoral College and Senate, the banning of non-socialist parties, etc.

That's just what I think would be the ideal plan for transitioning through the DOTP and into early socialism should be. In reality? Who knows? It could be my dream, but more likely it will either never happen, only come about after balkanization, result in a failing social democracy unable to deal with climate change, and/or be unable to do anything to stop the collapse of the USA and the modern geopolitical world as we know it over the next century. We could get something totally new.

I just hope that somehow, somewhere, we will have the chance to attain power and make the world a better place through the end of capitalism and the construction of a socialist society *in our lifetimes* (no 100 years of DOTP foreverwars and unfulfilled promises).

High speed rail and public transport cause cars to become a more hobbyist/recreational thing with multiple highway systems converted to race tracks for takeovers, sideshows and dragracing or fall into disrepair.

>>2920665
Got to rearrange the suburbs completely and give it more like some of the suburbs in the Netherland where there is no need to use a car. That is a complete transformation that needs to get done

>>2920654
another victory for Killpeopleism

>>2920656
this is intended to be scary and bad I assume but it's basically 100% truth nuke and they forgot to put ominous music over it to tell us how to feel. also compared to trump's recent speeches about wiping iran off the face of the earth it is positively hopeful.

>>2920724
A funny thing is the show bombed and both people on the left and right didn't like it for different reasons. Because the communists win and take over and Americans are sad and don't really do any Red Dawn shit to resist, so the right didn't like it. And then the left didn't like it either because the communists are the antagonists and it was the 1980s when Reagan was president.

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>>2920665
Just keep every Californian away if you want to do that.

>>2920637
>What would a Socialist America look like.
Probably more like libertarian socialism.

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>>2920637
>What would a Socialist America look like.
a nuclear crater

>>2920912
>wahhh muh blacks
Get a job cracker

>>2920863
>libertarian socialism
Question is what woukd that look like in action in the US?

>>2920637
Market Socialism with decentralization given to the states and through the states the locales and autonomous zones. It could end up with states experimenting with different socialist concepts. So a federal market socialist system


>>2920937
sounds like jewish nigger hell

>>2920941
No that's America as it is right now. But with a lot more drugs and just as many poor white people.

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A smoking crater from either nuclear war or from Yellowstone erupting

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>>2920941
nice 1 dewd

>>2920871
>socialism is when millions must die
ok porky

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If we're talking about a specifically Marxist-Leninist conception, the basic question is who controls the commanding heights of the economy and political power, not whether Americans are allowed to own a toaster. A plausible socialist transformation of the US would probably involve something like
<major industry, finance, energy, transport, communications, and natural resources brought under public/social ownership
<a radically reorganized labor regime
<universal provision of basic necessities
<planning replacing the capitalist investment mechanism
<federalism wouldn't necessarily disappear
<the Constitution and existing state institutions would almost certainly have to change substantially

>wouldn't this balkanize America?

The United States already has enormous regional differences, but those differences don't automatically imply separate countries. A socialist state could retain a common federal framework while allowing considerable cultural and administrative variation. California doesn't need to become the People's Republic of California merely because Texans have different politics.

But the harder issue is class conflict, not geography. If you seriously abolish capitalist ownership of the major means of production, the existing capitalist class isn't going to politely update its LinkedIn profile and become a cooperative shareholder. There would be political resistance, capital flight, attempts at sabotage, constitutional conflict, and probably intense international pressure. Conversely, socialist institutions would themselves generate new bureaucratic and managerial strata unless mechanisms existed to prevent them from becoming an unaccountable ruling layer.

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>>2920637
Like this

>>2921431
>>2920656
Damn, beat me to it lol

>>2921277
Tbe post was accurate tho, the last American capitalist regime would rather nuke its own soil out of spite rather than allowing the USA to go red even for a second.

>>2921431
I love social democracy

>>2921436
t. will be crushed


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