If you don't understand this, then you are badly brainwashed.
The jank with people like Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson or Nick Fuentes is not that the conspiracies they're peddling are false. It's that's they get people to blame the wrong groups for things at the very last minute.
For example, our government did 9/11 in order to justify further wars in the middle east against communist nations, and nations which had favorable oil trade deals with communist nations. It was done by our government, for right-wing purposes.
People on the left inexplicable don't want to discuss this, because we fucking suck, and we're cucks, and most of us follow every MSM narrative blindly.
In swoops Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, Fuentes, whoever. They pull off a technique known as a "Limited Hangout". They tell people part of the truth "oh, yeah, we know 9/11 was an inside job! Look at us! we're cool! we're not like those leftshits, who gaslight you over this crime! but guess who you should blame for this crime? not us! not fascists! not anti-communists! not the united states government! no, no! blame 'the jews!'"
And this is appealing to people, because they feel "well, blaming the jews is at least better than blaming no one, and just going along with the official narrative".
"The left", if we have such a thing in the west even, really needs to get it's shit together. Enough is enough. The United States is a corrupt government, pushing imperialistic far right agendas. No more tolerance for people who pretend to be "leftists" who are pushing defenses of status quo and official narratives anymore.
This is true when it comes to mass shootings being faked, too. When it comes to the MSM having a "left-wing agenda" (except, this is completely polarly inverted with the MSM, in fact, having a far-right agenda. Even MSNBC). With "The deep state" (once more, except the deep state is far right, not "Jewish" or "Leftist".
It's with everything they tell people. Except the perpetrators are polarly inverted, in order to keep the public blaming anyone other than the actual perpetrators.
As a citizen of the United States, you live in the heart of the empire. The epitome of the imperialistic evil which grips this world. Nothing sickens me more than when I hear purported "leftists" trying to defend our government, push official narratives and tell people "noo! there are no conspiracies! no government lies! nothing to see here! stop asking questions! stop thinking!" and our refusal to push back on this perverted mentality is part of why right-wingers end up picking up votes, too. They pick up votes from people who know everything here is just fully bullshit, but whenever they look at us on the left, they view as more likely to defend these official narratives, which everyone with half of a brain knows are just entirely fucking false.
>>2923359Afghanistan was a communist nation in the 1980s, then was making favorable oil trade deals with communist nations in the 21st century. Iraq, Syria, Libya were all, for every intent and purpose, communist nations, yes. If you don't know this, then you are brainwashed, and it's hard to believe you're an actual leftist if you don't know this. They were governed by ba'athists. Essentially this is the communist party of the middle east.
The rest of your post is just gaslighting for the united states, defending nick fuentes and alex jones from accusations of antisemitism, or whatever else.
Completely basic /pol/ rhetoric.
I presume you are from /pol/.
You want to defend Nick Fuentes and Alex Jones, and gaslight for them, I'm just going to correctly presume you're from /pol/.
>>2923361>>2923359Alex Jones constantly peddles antisemitic rhetoric. Along with Nick Fuentes. You want to deny this, you're not a person to be taken with any credibility whatsoever.
>>2923361>Ba'athism is Communism>You're brainwashed if you don't know this.Okay, kid.
>Defending Nick Fuentes and Alex JonesWhere? I am just correcting your mistakes.
Alex Jones has never blamed the Jews for anything.
>You're from /pol/You're the one who is promoting conspiracy theories.
>>2923362>Alex Jones constantly peddles antisemitic rhetoricWhere? Give me a SINGLE example of this "constant" onslaught.
>>2923363Your posts basically just amoutn to the epitome of gaslighting. Gaslighting people about 9/11, the middle eastern politics of the ba'athist party, Alex Jones and Nick Fuetnes peddling antisemitism, and your posts even unironically use the term "conspiracy theory" as a derogatory concept.
You're just not a person who deserves to be taken, in any fashion, with any form of credibility.
>>2923364>>2923363PS go back to 4pol telling people "Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes don't peddling antisemitism!", like it's clear this is where you come from. No actual human being, outside of that website, would ever deny the most basic facts about these figures in this way, given that they've both made antisemitism an essential part of their platform.
As all right-wingers eventually will, once they're able to get away with it, because antisemitism inherently exists to divert public blame away from the wealthy and powerful, and on to this unimportant, meaningless ethnic scapegoat, which does not threaten those in power.
Why do you want to gaslight for them? Why don't you want people blaming "the wealthy and the powerful, no matter their ethnicity" for their crimes?
>>2923364Anon, you have admitted to being a drunk idiot, so just stop already.
If you can't provide evidence of ANY of your claims, you have no justification in claiming that "every right-wing conspiracy is fundamentally true". Provide a single shred of evidence instead of just asserting nonsense. Show me a single case of Alex Jones being anti-semitic. Show me a single case of Nick Fuentes promoting conspiracy theories. You can't. Show me how 9/11 was an inside job or how mass shootings are false flags. You say the left "suck", and that we should listen to right-wingers to be informed about reality. Show us what we're missing. Go ahead. Prove the left wrong.
>>2923367Provide a single case of Alex Jones being antisemitic.
One, single case. I beg of you.
I further apologize, once more, for all grammatical errors in my posts. I've hit the vodka hard tonight. I'm doing my best to type everything properly. Vodka is fun. I enjoy drinking vodka. But nevertheless, the fundamental points which I'm making are factual. We went into the middle east because ba'athist nations were secular, socialist nations with far left politics, and were the allies with communist nations. And provided oil to those communist nations. And Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes obvious (fucking duh) peddle antisemitism every day of their lives. Just fucking duh. I mean, file that under "shit literally every person on this planet can see and hear with their own 2 eyes and ears". Anyone denying these basic facts is obviously pushing an agenda. Many people here, in fact, want to push the far right agenda.
>>2923369You're not a serious person when you're asking about Alex Jones or Nick Fuentes promoting antisemitism. Obviously. I mean, what do you even feel you're accomplishing by pushing that lie? Every person reading this thread, literally 100% of the people involved in the discussion here, know they push antisemitism.
Daily. Openly. This is their platform. I don't need to run through Alex Jones' entire broadcast history to find all of his anti-semitic rantings. I'm certain you can find this yourself, if you want.
>>2923370>the fundamental points which I'm making are factualHow was 9/11 done by the US government?
What mass shootings are faked?
Where has Nick Fuentes peddled conspiracy theories?
Where is Alex Jones antisemitic?
>>2923372>DailyProvide a case of Alex Jones being antisemitic today, then.
>All of his rantings.No. I just want one. You can't provide a single case.
the issue with arguing with internet retards is that they think they can just make a vague assertment and you should not only guess what they mean by it but also their justifications and then argue agaisnt those.
they want you to do all that effort and then the topic of debate is some retarded autistic shit like "the color yellow is blue prove me wrong"
>>2923373Dude, grow up, you're not a serious person.
Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes are both famously anti-semitic. And if you're telling people "9/11 wasn't done by the US govt" whilst defending them, you're even portraying yourself as more of a joke.
Get real, dude. Quit wasting my time. You're not one /pol/, where you can just "2+2=5" people about infamously antisemitic figures, who push antisemitism every day of their fucking lives. And antisemitism itself, obviously, is a conspiracy theory. Except an untrue one, intended to protect the United States government, the wealthy, and the powerful, from prosecution for their very many crimes.
>>2923374This is, more or less, the situation in this thread with this /pol/ack, who is unironically tries to assert Jones and Fuentes aren't anti-semitic. Hilarious. Yeah, it's 2+2=5, always delivered in the smuggest, most obnoxious way by the fascists. And they always act like it's every one around them who are absolutely fucking crazy. And they're just the masters of deception, manipulation, and gaslighting.
I fucking hate then, man. I'm basically banned from 4/pol/ now, so I'm here, but I've spent years on 4/pol/ debating them and their their pathetic dance with them.
I'm actually kind of glad they finally officially banned all of my email addresses and have finally kept me off of the website, for good, finally.
>>2923375Why can't you just admit that you're wrong?
You know you fucked up by lumping all these people together.
Carlson and Fuentes are antisemitic, but Jones isn't.
Jones and Carlson promote conspiracy theories, but Fuentes doesn't.
>9/11Again, what does this mean?
Did the Saudi Arabian hijackers work for the US government?
Was Al-Qaeda a government front?
What does the US government have to directly do with the attacks?
You don't really know what you're talking about. Go back to /x/.
>>2923374>>2923377>I've spent years on 4/pol/ debating them and their their pathetic dance with them. Vodka. I apologize. It's just vodka which is making me not quite able to write anything out grammatically correct.
I don't usually drink, but I have an explicit purpose for drinking heavily, recently.
Fucking vodka. For real, though, I don't know if any of you go on /pol/, but I'm fairly well-known and infamous there, and I've apparently been banned permanently there, by jannies.
So much for "free speech", right? Doesn't apply whatsoever when you have an articulate and informed leftist popping on to your board and proving to the fascists why they're always all just fucking wrong.
>>2923378Clearly you're an Alex Jones fanboy. And a Nick Fuentes fanboy. And a Tucker Carlson fanboy. And like all people who are followers of these figures, you won't recognize even the most basic facts about the figures whom you worship and peddle. Because your politics, as a fascist, exist to protect the wealthy and powerful by peddling Jewish scapegoats and other manufactured identity politics, intended to divert attention and blame away from "the wealthy and the powerful, no matter their ethnicity". And this is who you are, unfortunately. This is the decision you've made in life. To protect wealthy psychopaths with Jewish scapegoats.
>>2923380>protect wealthy psychopaths with Jewish scapegoats.So my crime is that I am against antisemitism?
And this makes me a /pol/tard?
You're very confused. But worse - you're very prideful.
Please log off and have some contemplation.
>>2923381This is a complete non sequitur comment. The type of thing people like you always write when you're completely out of steam. You're defending antisemites, and therefore antisemitism. Obviously you're not "against antisemitism". Please drop the grift, you zombie establishment defender of fascism and fascists. Just quit gaslighting for them.
>>2923382>Everyone despises me.Finally some self-reflection.
>I only know how to tell the truth. Regessive delusion from narcissistic injury.
>>2923384I'm still waiting for you to show any evidence for your claims.
>>2923385I got banned from 4/pol/ after years of completely BTFOing fascists there. To the point where many of them began making databases to try to track, and dox me, and just completely seething over every post I made. Night after night. None of them were ever able to disprove anything I wrote. They incurred massive butthurt. Eventually, now that they've implemented this new e-mail verification system, they were able to ban me, and immediately they made use of this opportunity. They weren't able to ban before this new system because everything worked on the basis of IP addresses. Now it works on the basis of e-mails, and they're able to re-institute major censorship. And obviously I'm going to be the first victim of this massive censorship.
>>2923386Yeah, that's a cool story, dude. We've all heard people like you just listlessly repeating "wheres the evidence" any time anyone mentions "2+2=4". It's your usual grift, and it doesn't impress anyone.
>>2923373>Provide a case of Alex Jones being antisemitic today, then.he does use every single anti-semitic stereotype between baby snatching and rootless cosmopolitanism without outright naming the jew
>>2923382>I am a martyr for being annoying onlineJesus fucking Christ, dude.
>>2923387Anon, you're dangerously delusional.
>>2923388>>2923389You have no evidence.
I suppose that will be all, then.
Think upon your own judgement; "everyone despises me".
Try to figure out why. Get therapy and get healthy. Good luck.
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