/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

https://crimethinc.com/2026/09/29/if-bolsonaro-wins-they-kill-us-if-lula-wins-they-let-us-die-on-the-2026-elections-in-brazil

TL;DR whomstever wins, Huelanders lose, but Bolsonaro is going to make things much worse much faster. In all likelihood there will be some degree of American intervention to make sure he does

>>2925478
The American Embassy just left Brazil so I suspect Lula will win

Open the Lulags

Whoever wins is the CIA's preferred candidate.

Interimperialist contest

>>2925827
If Elon Musk blocks a politician that means we should give that politician critical support. Elon's satellites are killing Russian soldiers and since Cucktin is doing nothing about it we should offset the effect by supporting everything and everyone Elon hates.

>>2925477
>vote to release a man charged with attempted murder and turning brazil into a fascist dictatorship
<or vote a moderate socdem
Hard choices.

Lula's gonna lose isn't he? It was tight last time and the yanks weren't actively trying to rig it that time around.

>>2925847
the last poll by right wing firm atlas intel that predicted right wing wins in colombia and peru has lula winning by 0.1%

why are international chuds so butthurt about brazil not being governed by some k puppet?

east asians are the most reactionary minorities and i'm tired of pretending they're not

>>2926066
japan needs more nukes exploding there

Latin Americans are so fucking retarded. Enjoy your death squads

Can someone post the lula clip where he says marx belongs in the trash we don't need him?

Didn't bolsenaro move to the US to get tit job or something?

>>2925847
I think it's Lulover.

Doesn't look good

>>2926068
So there is more refugee to latin america ? Hell no

>>2926076
Gut, I don't like the brasileiros here. I wish them suffering as they wish me. I hope Bolo tie wins.

>>2926076
God damn it Brazil

>>2926076
Isn't it like the States where big cities are counted last?

Sending you my energy from burgerstan, brazilanons

The continued passivity of China in the face of its political allies getting creamed continues to confuse me.

>>2926090
why? the chinks don't have any opinion on anything that has happened in the past 200 years. They got "le century humiliated" then they got one over on the west. They are not are socialist friends. They don't give a fuck about nothing past the great wall.

>>2926083
thanks <3

My China, Muh CCP, please save me, this entity that never had any interaction with me in my lifetime, I swear my allegiance to you my china. Please acknowledge me.

Anyone has the cartoon with pair of shoes stepping on workers with person promising to vote for the other shoe next election?

>>2926091
>>2926094
I'm not saying they should. I'm just saying that from a purely utilitarian perspective, it doesn't make much sense.

Another blow to Thirdworldism.

>>2926091
>chinlet slurs
Reported for liberalism

>>2926098
reported for reddit.

@2926099

Anyway, while waiting to see who the faggot mods will ban, me or the other faggot, how do you believe in these faggots as some serious basis for whatever? You see what they are right?

even right wing leaning atlas intel was predicting lula to win the first round and he's now massively trailing bolsonaro
voting machines got jewed? did ai systems finally got good enough to be deployed discreetly and millions of people changed their mind in the last week?

God, I forgot this was a duplicate Brazil /BRZ/ thread, I already said what I had to say about that shit country in the main thread.

Lula is losing? :(

>>2926104
Lula is getting RAPED.

Just because your mom liked my abs, twink face and girthy cock that split her open doesn't make me a faggot incel chud like (You) :/

>>2926108
The most Brazilian post imaginable. congratulations.

>>2926102
polling industry has been out of whack ever since 2016 due to bribery and bias.

>>2926111
atlas intel predicted all the chud wins in latin america including peru and colombia the past years

>>2926111
it's the other way around
sometimes these polls involve actual people voting
the brazilian system is fully digital. you press a button and then the CIA/israeli software decides who is your new president

Why am I supposed to care about this again when Lula and his party is made of liberals?

>>2926120
Isn't Brazil supposed to be semi imperialist or something in some Marxist theories

>>2926126
*gets actually hunted down and killed for being to the left of hitler*
I just can't tell the difference between this and a liberal government

>>2926134
>Lula literally committed genocide in Haiti along with the us israelisphere but you choose to forget that or worse, handwash it away
I say to myself as the evangelical death squad drone-bombs my house

>>2926126
>>2926129
>>2926134
>>2926143
CIA

Let this be a lesson for why its important to propagandize and educate people, else they're easy prey for rightoid bullshit.

Ho Chi Minh one of the great revolutionaries of the XX century very wisely said that ignorance is one of the greatest tools of international capital and repeatedly told his people to work hard in the propaganda and education efforts, even in one occassion addressing artists to tell them that their work was a part of the ideological struggle.

And it did work, yet for some reason the average western marxist (especially leftypol types) will stubbornly insist that it's all useless and even liberal. Such an addiction to inaction is something I'll never understand, especially when the proposed action is so easy it doesn't even require logging off and touching grass.

>>2926131
>Socdems are totally trustworthy and aren't helping nazoids hunting me down without any pressure of sorts
Lol

Why don't they just do away with democracy at this point.

>>2926179
you're a fucking retard if you believe these results

I heard flavor bolsonaro dropped out does this mean hula wins by default?

>>2926192
Gotta do it slowly, so people grow up with less and less and think that is normal

Im not too informed on Brazilian politics so there are probably some mistakes lula made that i dont know about, but its also true he is old as fuck and is a relic of boomer leftism. He also failed to cultivate a successor so i imagine after this night the brazlian left might implode into in fighting

>>2926126
you shouldnt, unless you are the kind of person who cares about democrats vs republicans too
>>2926177
lol, lmao even

Lula Bux!!!
LETS. FUCKING. GO.

So I guess Cuba and Mexico are the only remaining bastions against fascism huh

>>2926216
Only Cuba. Mexico and Brazil love Israel too but like most Socdem states don't wanna say it directly

>>2926216
what about nicaragua
they're a revolutionary socialist republic based on christian values governed by husband and wife as co-presidents and they recently cancelled elections forever to keep trump from fucking them up

>>2926213
it's very unlikely that lula wins in the second runoff. if all the right win candidates throw their votes to bolsoshit, they won't do it for lula, it's 10 millions of votes lula needs to defeat.
gg.
i prefer lula, but it's lula's fault. in all fronts, this second term he was a pathetic little old man. no pushback against the austerity programs imposed by the senate and congress, obsessed with venezuela (in a very bad way), didn't help cuba not even once, and even after 3 years of israeli genocide he didn't close the israeli embassy.

>>2926275 (me)
>>2926213
tbh, i can see that lula only won because of covid and that covid put bolsoshit father on the path of losing the election

>>2926213
I won $150 on Flavio winning the first round.

>>2926283
time to bet those 150 in lula's favor for the runoff. to see if a miracle happens. after all, all polls were saying that lula was projected to win. i assume now, inasmuch as maths ain't mathing for lula, all polls will say that bolso is the projected winner.

bolsonaro's party and allies also increased their numbers in both the senate and chamber of deputies
it's over

>>2926283
Careful kid, the house always wins

>>2926179
They could at the very least have banned twitter/whatsapp/tiktok and every other right-wing media platform so that the dipshits on them don't get poisoned against leftism.

>>2926134
>Lula literally committed genocide in Haiti along with the us israelisphere
As if I didn't hate this suckdem faggot enough

>>2926283
>profiting from the fall of cuckla da silva
its just too giga…

I am glad Lula is losing, he is a class traitor and always put his banker friends interests over everything else

>>2926657
Lula losing and Bozo jr winning is bad for all kinds of reasons, but Lula's empire appeasement and middle-road soc-demism was bound to fail and now it has collapsed across the entire region.
Lula did nothing when Venezuela was attacked and re-colonized and spent more time criticizing Maduro for "authoritarianism". Lula did nothing when Morales was being couped. Lula did nothing when Cuba was being sieged and starved. He abandoned all his logical allies to the empire while denouncing their real or imagined deviations from his soc-dem idealism, failing to realize when the "radicals" are eliminated all around him the empire doesn't need to tolerate the "moderates" anymore either.
He also acted to block on any significant moves by BRICS to create real alternatives to dollar hegemony, counseling moderation and delay (and also blocked Venezuela's entry into BRICS when that could have given them more of a lifeline against sanctions).
And what did all this lead to other than his own demise and the total collapse of the left across the entire region? Well done Lula. Well done.

>Walk on road. Walk right side, safe. Walk left side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later, get the squish just like grape. - Mr. Miyagi (1984)

its crazy how it only took the CIA one election to turn an anti-imperialist multipolar political economy into an imperialist-proxy fascist one…

>>2926711
So Lula fucked up big time. What is the future of the Brazilian Left

>>2926711
All of that geopolitical shit but the fact is he didn't do economic reforms, nor armed the workers nor build extra-parliamentary force. Socdem plain and simple

>>2926733
death when bolsonaros attempt their next successful coup

It is a part of the strategy of "retrenchment" for US imperialism under Trump; the stalemate in the Russia-Ukraine war and the failure regarding Iran led the US to abandon the neoconservative strategy of expansion across the Eurasian landmass. Instead, they have shifted toward propping up puppet regimes loyal to Washington in Latin America to establish perpetual exploitation of the local population, much like the United Fruit Company did in the early 20th century.

So Lula is just fucked right?

>>2926715
Now do you believe in the power of electoralism?

>>2926884
It's over for him, he will lose and die within a few years

>>2926885
It is just C alone

All in on bolsonaro not pulling out of brics and catering to chinese porky just as much

>>2927015
they'll be the USAs agent on the inside

Were the allegations of bolsonaro's coup in 2022 that banished him from politics true? If so it's funny how his son who he promotes, shares a party, last name, ideology, and heritage with is allowed to run.

Peak bourgeois law

>>2927017
its basically a repeat of the US elections. goyim here are especially retarded because they already know how this will end but they still vote flavio anyways because lula is le hecking communist

>>2927029
>goyim
You mean prolecattle and don't blame them because social democracy is a failure

is lula a gommunism? :DDD

the proletariat is stupid
we should put the proletariat in concentration camps

average socdem when they lose one (1) election after 4 years of torturing the proletariat with capitalism: >>2927099

>>2927087
Your position is closer to communism than 90% of the pro-lula posters here

Sopa de Lula uma delicia

>>2927087
See you next election when they get sick of the right again

>>2927538
Brazil's left don't exist without Lula, he is 81 and will die in the next few years, we will witness the Fourth Brazilian Reich rising next year

>>2927541
The 21st century right are incompetent morons who run off vibes, they’re going to fuck up so hard they’ll end up allowing the left to regroup

We go through this every couple of years in every country, every time the right declares eternal victory they trip over their own dicks and eventually make literally anyone else look good

why is the northeast so different?

>The political power of Pentecostal groups remains significant, with an evangelical lobby that counts 215 out of 513 seats in the Chamber of Deputies.
how is that possible?

>>2927600
Catholicism is too boring and solemn for a new worlder mind.

the re-colonization has begun

>>2927550
Money

Contextualizing my international Leftypol brothers:

Lula lost to Flávio Bolsonaro by a 1.8% margin (around 3.5 million votes). Lula will receive around one and a half million votes from the losing parties, while Flávio Bolsonaro will receive two and a half million votes from the parties that lost (this is not certain, just speculation). Around 44 million Brazilians did not vote or cast a blank ballot, so the electoral race for Lula is about winning over these voters in order to win the election.

Flávio Bolsonaro has strong connections with Brazilian evangelical churches, which are a plague that is spreading throughout Brazil's peripheral neighborhoods. Slowly, the number of Brazilian evangelicals has been increasing since the 2000s, along with all that bullshit about the virtue of money and that Americanized mega churches crap.

Besides Flávio Bolsonaro strong connections with evangelical churches, he also has strong support from the Brazilian Army (which has a wet dream of carrying out another coup in Brazil) and foreign support from the United States. So Flávio Bolsonaro's propaganda basically boils down to "stop communism" and "Brazil is going to become Venezuela." This is very appealing to the population (especially those in rural areas), since the great majority are conservative and support traditional values.

The left in Brazil has made some advances. We managed to elect a few left wing deputies and senators, but the majority are more radical than what we had in the past. Candidates such as Jones Manoel, who is a communist, and Giovana Mondardo, who is from the Brazilian Communist Party, won (whether they really are "pure communists" in the eyes of some people is another matter), but it had been a VERY long time since Brazil had elected people who openly call themselves communists to important political positions.

Now, the Lula government, besides going after the votes of non voters, is also running a massive campaign on social media. Basically, Lula is meeting with young figures from the left that win the elections (most generation Z) at the Planalto to discuss new methods of attracting votes through social media. There are already hundreds of profiles on platforms such as Facebook, TikTok, and Kwai posting anti-Bolsonaro propaganda aimed at boomers. On top of that, Lula is calling on his supporters to take to the streets during this electoral race, and his supporters are encouraging graffiti, wheatpasting around cities and busy areas with posters defaming Flávio Bolsonaro.

Flávio Bolsonaro continues with the same strategy that allowed him to pull ahead of Lula.

>>2927550
The history of northeastern Brazil is kind of complicated but VERY interesting, so I'll try to summarize it for you:

Northeastern Brazil was deliberately kept poor by the governments of the 1930s and 1940s, essentially being treated as a rural region for growing sugar cane and other crops. So, as a political project, the people were kept in hunger and misery for generations by latifundiary's, which resulted in a rural exodus of northeasterners to large cities such as São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro. Lula himself went through this. Based on this history and his strong cultural connection with the Northeast, Lula managed to create a very strong electoral base there. Lula and the PT (Partido dos Trabalhadores - Workers' Party) are part of the popular imagination of the average northeast citzen, representing a hardworking, honest man who came from the same shitty hole as them and became president. In addition, Lula implemented various industrialization and education policies in the Northeast, which only made him even more popular there.


The right wing secured 22 seats in the Senate, while the left won 8. We elected 124 left wing federal deputies, 12 being far-left.
The Senate has 81 seats and the Chamber of Deputies has 513 seats. The rest are either center or right wing.
So even if Lula wins, it will be a very difficult term to negotiate with Congress, especially since he is a social democrat.

Basically, that's it.

>>2927620
This electoral race in Brazil is much more about culture and ideology than economics or security from both sides. Lula is just as much of a sellout as Flávio (maybe A LITTLE less so). The difference is that if Flávio wins, all these evangelical beliefs, the idea that the United States is superior, and the idea that people have had enough of woke culture will become even more intense, not to mention that his father will be released from prison.

In my opinion, it is possible for Lula to win. This is one of the closest elections in our history, but personally, I think Bolsonaro is going to win and we're going to become Israel 2.0.

>>2927624
The first one is the most recent election poll i found.
The second image is an AI slop i did it.

daily reminder that lifting millions out of poverty is infinitely more revolutionary than being le hecking radical commie on twitter

CIA death squads will be once again a feature of Latin America.

>>2927678
The British are the most revolutionary people in human history.

if Bolsonaro wins it's pretty much over for Brazil this century, you will be a neocolony for the rest of the 21st century

>>2927678
>creates the petite bourgeois that vote for bolsonaro
<this is revolutionary you fucking commies!
kek

you just know lulalibs will be posting the most prolephobic shit possible on social media when their daddy finally losses the final election

>>2927679
nah, I'm sure AOC will put an end to all this when she becomes madame president

>>2927620
thanks for the write up

>>2927736
Lula supporters always hated workers, this is not news

So who won?

>>2927927
fun won :D

why doesn't brazil have an urban rural divide like other countries? even major cities like rio or sao paulo vote for bolsojew

>>2928000
the prolecattle will get what they fucking deserve, to be milked dry by the US and Israel

>>2927927
The presidential election will have a second round since no candidate exceeded 50% of vootes.
However Bolsonaro is far ahead, plus basically anyone who didn't cast a vote for Bolsonaro or Lula voted for some other (center-)right candidate, and the other chambers just had a landslide far-right victory anyway.
Bolsonaro will win and yes, this is a huge blow for the Brazillian left regardless of what twitter socialists from the other side of the globe say. Every Brazilian communist organization is shilling for a vote for Lula right now.
There will be zero redeeming qualities of a Bolsonaro government, just as there was no improvement in worker organization and uprising in Brazil after two decades of a US-backed military dictatorship. He's ten times a bigger gangster than they were.

>>2928000
The rural areas are now even more reactionary than the big cities. There are some factors for this, such as mayors of small towns receiving heaps of shady money from fellow reactionary congressmen, the extremely popular Brazilian "country music" industry being coopted by "billionare grindset" corporate shills (pic related - the house of a brainlet "singer" and moron), the evangelical surge, the lack of presence of leftist organizations etc.
There *is* a divide in northeastern votes as >>2927620 said but that is also diminishing slightly.

Bump!

>>2927927
Hitler ᴉuᴉlossnW

>Oh wait that's Peru

Anyone showing up to the student protests tonight?

>>2929130
Socdems always return to elitism when they can't do shit

The problem is Lula ran his previous campaign on turning poors into treatlers and that didn’t happen because it’s not the early 2000s anymore and there’s no more commodity boom to sail into, combine that with the recent scandals and it’s no wonder Brazil of Hope is finished. It’s not just Lula or Brazil this a problem endemic to all of South America and the Caribbean. That’s not to mention most of the enjoyment from those middle class luxuries come from said luxuries being denied to those the consumer deems lesser than them, the delicious steak and fish and cachaca are ONLY delicious if the cast of City of God can’t have it, that’s a huge part of the organic support for either Bolsonaro. The CIA can and does do a lot but they don’t get far without an organic base of support for whatever nonsense they’re trying to pull.

>>2929230
>The problem is Lula ran his previous campaign on turning poors into treatlers
You don't fuck with Dengism?

>>2929252
No, I don’t enjoy walmart and target

>>2929108
Imagine going to a protest to support a politician lmao, literal slave mentality