I’m done with this fraud.
Mamdani was elected specifically to fight against the Zionist Lobby and yet he’s show MULTIPLE TIMES he’s a full-blown Zio himself. He sells out to Jewish feelings over Palestinian resistance every time he can. He quotes the satanic Talmud which calls for Jews to enslave and oppress “goyim” in order to appease Zionists. Then he has the NYPD arrest hundreds of anti-Zionist protesters. Now he attends a “memorial” lead by an “Israeli” hasbara group to memorialize 1200 Zionist settlers killed during the greatest act of anti-colonial resistance in modern history. If Ziohran was truly principled he would have unequivocally stated that “Israelis” have no right to life given that every single one serves in the army and that Hamas and the PFLP have a right to resist.
Fuck this man.
>>2928213NYC has one of the largest Jewish populations in the world. Why shouldn't the fucking mayor of NYC want to make amends with Jews?
>>2928216Mamdani was supposed to send his NYPD shock troops to personally stop Bibi
>>2928216Fuck you mean "make amends", he got elected in a certain platform, he is accountable to the voters not to go apologise to Zionist freaks that lobbied against him
oh look another troll chud thread
you guys are not even trying nowadays
>>2928213>“Israelis” have no right to lifeWhy?
>>2928253>Why?hashem told me so 3000 years ago, that's why.
>>2928213Incredibly funny seeing him say "hamas killed thousands, and Israel killed tens of thousands" and getting everyone pissed at him.
>>2928273Palestine is a bigger issue than "affordability."
Lol the fraud figured out the jewish lobby pays better, you guys are retarded for voting a sucdem expecting change. That he cucked out on bibi and sending the police to pro palestine protesters is a recurrent succdem theme, check out weimar germany.
>>2928276>you guys are retarded for voting a sucdem expecting change.Everyone on /leftypol/ voted for Trump to accelerate the decline of America, thobeit.
>>2928278What is the difference between /pol/ and /leftypol/? Certainly Russian federation fellatio bots are the same in both places…
>>2928285Do you condemn Hamas couldneasily be anwsered with "Do you condemn Patrick Henry?" But leftists in America dont like that type of politik
>>2928284The russian bots behave differently on different sites tho. On /pol/ they denounce the Talmud and accuse Ukraine of being Jew run and Russia is traditionalist Orthodox fighting against evil jewish globalists. On /leftypol/ they claim to be anti imperialist and say that Ukraine is a proxy of America that is security threat to the Russian people.
>>2928288Well they're at least correct on the latter
>>2928287Obviously they would go
<waaaah, don't compare a revolutionary with terrorist who bomb civilians!!! >>2928321Just a collaborator
>>2928322Which is exactly why you look them in the face and say "no, I don't condemn Hamas, I support their fight for liberation."
This site really is run by teenagers who don’t understand that politics is an inherently dirty business
>>2928327You're under arrest for support for terrorism
>>2928349Then I'll rot and write in jail, I will never stop denouncing genocide, colonialism, and imperialism
>>2928325no more collaborationist than every european and northern american
>>2928353I'm not s bourgeois politician so I have no idea what you're on about
>>2928350Do you want to win or do you want to virtue signal forever
>>2928350>denouncingBibi will never recover
>>2928319>>2928288>>2928284everyone i dont like is a russian bot, ok schizo
>>2928379You're right I have the same exact power and agency as a bourgeois politician
>>2928376>>2928374Instead of being jealous of my conviction, why don't you do something?
>>2928387the Nazi germans and Fascist Japanese citizens did not have power or agency but they were still as Collaborationist as the europeans and north Americans are today so stop crying
>/pol/
>and
>succ dems
Toxic
>>2928390>denying the justice Palestinians deserve most empathetic western leftist
>>2928396im sorry if i disrupted your mamdani dickriding, by all means continue never accepting responsibility, It's not like the Palestinians are being genocided at this very moment or anything
>>2928213> Now he attends a “memorial” lead by an “Israeli” hasbara group to memorialize 1200 Zionist settlershe said he mourned israeli oct 7th deaths while on the campaign trail. don't know what you expected. another succdem fell for it again award o algo. i got called a zionist on this very board when predicting he would be another boring centrist liberal who bothsides everything. it's a mayoral position in NYC. What did you expect him to be? Lenin? Don't make me laugh. I predict I will also be called a zionist in this thread for going "soft" on him (when really I never expected him to be good at anything) just like I was called a zionist for going "hard" on him (predicting he would do this). All you guys know how to do is complain. Be the change you want to see and stop begging the bourgeoisie for reforms.
>>2928399get on a plane and go volunteer for the houthis . that will get you a lot farther than voting for succdems in the USA
>>2928272what people say doesn't matter. words are wind. they want him to sack the zionist police commissioner and so on. what they don't realize is that was never going to happen because the NYPD is a unionized army of 40,000 chuds bristling with military gear and mamdani is a succdem reformist. It's almost like electing a succdem doesn't do anything and you have to form a militant vanguard.
>>2928288the lesson here is you "support" (cheerleaders) by telling people what they want to hear.
But actual SUPPORT (weapons, fighters, money, sacrifice, food, first aid) is much more rare.
>>2928403Show us how it's done first, collaborator
>>2928213>an elected politician did as the system he joined demanded of himOP learning water is wet. As if we don't know full well the system eats all resistance that doesn't challenge it. You cannot challenge a system by becoming it. Retards playing retarded games won retard prizes.
what if I ran for mayor and I became actually anti-zionist?
NOBODI WOULD VOTE FOR ME the entire thimg is rigged this is why reformism is retarded
>>2928422I mean he could have not gone to an October 7th memorial held by Israelis
>>2928405I mean yeah ok, politicians break their promises, amazing insight, I'm just saying theoretically, I think it's fair to complain about people lying even if 99% of politicians lie
>>2928389true,they all had no impact on their respective bourgeois politics
>>2928410>c-collaboratori never claimed to be otherwise. i have a family to take care of in klanmerikkka i'm just telling you to stop believing in succdems.
>>2928416>the more popular it is, the more paid the protestors areif the global proletariat finally gunned the global bourgeoisie down you would cry that it's a glow op
What's with all the mamdani shills here? Don't tell me there's people that actually still like this fraud? Smh anons, very disappointing
>>2928481The hornets nest is stirring
>>2928213Im no burger so not that familiar with him but wasnt his main thing housing affordability? not a rabid zionist was just how they attacked him, but I thought he was lukewarm about the issue
>>2928481DSA is better than anything they have in USA
>>2928213>>>/USAPOL/>I’m done with this fraud.Dont care.
Do you even live in New York?
>>2928469you say you want violent revolution in america but you prioritize your tax generating family at the same time, curious!
>>2928481This blows my mind. I suppose all the Haszog Piker DSSA folx found out about this place and are shitting it up.
>>2928512I thought /leftypol/ was supposed to be the antipole of /pol/ but apparently it is just /pol/tards roleplaying as leftists, usually the caricatures. And it is not even a tankie imageboard, because campists here are salivating over some reactionary fascist strongmen.
>>2928497But DSA are just democrat shills, so democrats are better than anything else is what you're saying?
>>2928514I dont think there are any poltards here. They would be critical of Mamdani being a Jewish puppet. Instead most of this thread is felating Mamdani.
>>2928514>muh tankie>muh campistsyou're an enemy to any serious communist and any anti imperialist
>>2928512I really feel like they've been multiplying recently. I mean it's not like we haven't seen our fair share of democrat dickriders on the board. My god remember the Platner thing lmao, crazy how literally they stopped shilling him once it turned out he had harmed a white person once, rather than his stint at the US torture and rape prison in Iraq.
But it feels different than the usual suspects idk, I might just be schizo tho
>>2928514Maybe it's time to go back to reddit anon, I can barely comprehend what you're trying to say. What strongman are you talking about?
>>2928519serious like yourself?
>>2928526New York is literally the biggest home of international Zionism other than London, so yeah he could do stuff like divest the city's shit loads of money
Let me post damn you
>>2928526>the socdem mayor of New York was supposed to be a multipolarist strongman sending his secret NYPD shock troops to stop the IDF from razing Gaza guysWho said this exactly?
>>2928530Okay. With what legal mechanism
>>2928531I’m mocking your unrealistic expectations. Mamdani is a socdem in a reactionary country, what the fuck do you think he’s gonna do? Fucking challenge Netanyahu to a duel?
>>2928534But who was expecting anything other than people who dickride him and other socdems?
>>2928534The only things I ever expected him to do is prove my points
>>2928532Idk he's the mayor?? Surely he has some control over the pension funds etc
>>2928542non-zionist jews contribute to zionism since they all have families, help their jewish communities and other jewish people in general who happen to be zionists. If you are so isolated jew that you have no interaction with zionist jews you might as well not even call yourself a jew then.
>>2928542>>JewsWho gives a shit? I literally couldn't be bothered to change it
Mamdani has no ability to affect what happens in Palestine anyway.
>>2928540>>2928540>Idk he's the mayor??If you don't know then go and find out instead of impotently whining about it here.
>>2928216Because Jews are ethno-fascists
>>2928247No one voted for him because of Palestine. They voted for Mamdani because he promised affordable housing and free buses.
>>2928593>Mamdani has no ability to affect what happens in Palestine anyway.Frankly outstanding to me that the americans don't understand this thing.
Why do they want us hyper-focusing on a city mayor constantly anyway?
>>2928321Why is he funding Zionist orgs then
>>2928610But who is this supposed to be?
I think the protestors calling him genocider and traitor are gigas, people complaining about them are not
Thank you for your attention to this matter
you guys don't get the 4D chess. Mamdani is giving Zionist orgs millions of dollars so that more Zionists leave New York for Israel, and thus allows Mamdani to win even bigger next election and finally remove Tisch thanks to gaining an even bigger mandate than before.
DSA = Neocons
This is a black pill none of you are ready for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0C157Wmm6EDemocratic “Socialists” of America originate from the exact same roots as Neoconservatives. Specifically, they grew out of anti-populist and anti-Leninist tendencies AND Western chauvinism against Third World countries implementing Marxist-Leninist governments to gain their sovereignty. They are "Third Camp" Trotskyists. Both Irving Kristol and Michael Harrington were disciples of Trotskyist Max Shachtman and this legacy is carried by the DSA today.
The ideology is also the same. Neocons despise ordinary people. Most neocons were former Trotskyists and Trotsky, likewise, HATED the working-class. Likewise, the godfather of Neoconservatism Leo Strauss saw himself and his students/cult followers as philosopher kings. He told them to view the vulgar masses of people as needing to be deceived so that intellectuals could maintain their power. This is largely because neoconservatism is an expression of Jewish supremacy. Jews believe they are the "CHOSEN PEOPLE" and seek to preserve their ethnocentrism and tribalism against the universal brotherhood of man brought into the world by Christ. You can't separate these things.
The Straussian cabal is very real and still holds loads of ideological power within American politics. Neocons like Irving and Bill Kristol were die-hard followers of Strauss and sought to implement his thought any way they could. Paul Wolfowitz was a student of Strauss who was one of the primary architects of the Iraq War and 9/11 false flag. Look up the Wolfowitz Doctrine and the PNAC call for a "new Pearl Harbor." It's my opinion that the DSA, in spite of claiming to be "anti-Zionist" and "anti-imperialist," are simply the next incarnation of the Neocons and will follow the exact Neocon playbook once elected. It's a known fact that many Neocons from the Bush II era have now since become Democrats and publicly supported Kamala Harris over Trump on the basis Trump wasn't Neocon enough (Bill Kristol comes to mind here). This must be exposed
Neocons are satanic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNYidsuhaKYPOWER OF NIGHTMARES
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jxBbw13Y3Gc A VERY HEAVY AGENDA
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mbaAPILY8XmM/Zionist Jew YouTuber: "Claiming Jews were behind Iraq War is 'BLOOD LIBEL.'"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUA2Sy3jAZE&t=6013s (1:40:13)
>"oy vey goyim, let us lie and deceive the public and give us the oil and let us establish a rothschild bank"They aren't even making an effort to hide it anymore.
Total neocon death.
He has to kneel and grovel like a dog because jews control america. Why is any of this a surprise to anyone in the current year? Everyone should have had the scales removed from their eyes over the last 3 years of genocide.
>>2928213Explain how saying “Israeli civilians don’t deserve to be killed either” is wrong.
>>2928724Big, do you ever sound fun at parties.
>>2928758Hoxhaist supporting Mamdani's millions of dollars pledged to Zionist orgs.
>>2928762Where did I say that?
>>2928758Its wrong to say that because Israeli civilians do deserve to be killed
>>2928724You forgot to take your flag off before posting. People should vote for Abdul El-Sayed and Fayed
>>2928213OH MY GOD, A POLITICIAN LIED? THAT CAN'T BE REAL!
You’re expecting way more out of him than you should for any American politician. Zohran is a mayor, not a firebrand revolutionary. His job is to work in the political system, and believe it or not, saying “yeah Israel deserved to get attacked by Hamas” is not exactly the best PR.
As well, the statement he made was probably as anti-Israel as he could get. There’s a paragraph where he says the Oct. 7th attacks were bad, and he spends the rest of it talking about Israel’s genocidal actions in Palestine. It’s still Anti-Israel in nature.
The idea he’d do anything besides this is delusional. He’s still in favor of Palestine and still a definite step forward for the left in the USA.
I don’t even like Mamdani, but you could at least spare yourselves of this humiliation and find substantial problems to complain about rather than “the bourgeois politician doesn’t support hamas!!!! wtf!!! get him out now!!!”
>>2928909he campaigned off the back of the palestinian movement. he made the promises. he built up the expectations. this is nobody's fault but his. stop being a pathetic servile dog. dare to dream you sad beaten peasant minded slave. have some dignity. fuck you.
>>2928910again, he’s still significantly more anti-israel than any elected politician in the entire country. the majority of people in the palestinean movement are moderates who want a two-state solution anyways, though that’s certainly changing.
again, I wish he’d made a better statement, but the fact you didn’t see this coming from a mile away is baffling. he’s a mayor. grow up. if you want change, do it yourself instead of waiting for DSA soc-dems to try and fail to do it for you.
>>2928724Obsessed stalinoid caca
>>2928213>satanic talmud>calls forthe talmud is a collection of debates between rabbis. why do you feel the need to spread the same kind of misinformation that fascists do when there are a million different attack points for zionaziism
>>2928823>>2928825People still care about what this washed-up ex-professor says?
>>2928724>still ranting about the "neocons" in the current yearProtip: it's not 2005 anymore and "neocons" have zero power these days.
>>2928933hormussy status?
>>2928934Trump isn't a neocon. Neocons were idealists whereas Trump just wants to flex.
>>2928931Because same "people" are here and on halfchan /chug/
>>2928601Found the /pol/tard.
>>2928213Why does Mamdani have to support killing Israeli civilians in order to be a "good" leftist?
>>2928966This. Supporting killing Israeli citizens is Zionist because Israelis are the ones who killed them.
>>2928798But Zohran should've said that instead of repeating the Hamas lie.
What's wrong with the Talmud?
>>2928980
This Rabbinism epitomises the Pharisee obsession with the letter of the law as opposed to the spirit. Kabbalah also sees the particular construction of words with nominalist fascination, due to numerical value. It is a type of schizophrenia which defies common sense.
>>2928213>IT’S OVER for ZohranNot a big loss for music.
>>2928724Did Maupin specifically ask AI to make Trotsky look satanic?
>>2928547>non-zionist jews contribute to zionismFeels and vibes
>>2929129People like you keep AIPAC alive
Before we do anything, we have to understand that Zohran Mamdani is the primary representative of the DSA: its policies, its vision, its governance, and what a future would look like under the DSA.
People will say, why aren't these pro-Palestine protesters protesting Trump or the Republicans? Why are they protesting Mamdani? Why are they attacking someone who's also on the left? Do they fear power? These people just want to critique power. They don't want to have power. That quote by ContraPoints, Natalie Wynn, YouTuber. She's a Zionist. She's come out in defense of Israel and their genocide of Palestinians. So if you're using that quote in this context, you should pause and do a little bit of critical thinking. It seems a bit hokey to quote someone who attended Lindsey Graham's funeral and campaigned for Hillary Clinton as critique for socialists.
The reason people are protesting Mamdani and not Republicans is because Republicans aren't going to listen to the demands of the protesters. In fact, the Democrats aren't going to listen to the demands of the protesters. Look at how Biden increased police funding after BLM 2020 for proof of that. This has been made clear over the last 15 years of American history. However, there is an expectation that because Zohran Mamdani is a socialist, a DSA member (not only a DSA member, but essentially a good old boy of the DSA), he will listen. He has been in the DSA for quite some time and has worked his way up through the ranks, handpicked by the New York City DSA to be the mayor. So there is an expectation that this man will listen to his constituents, an expectation that honestly is typically not there in regard to other politicians.
Most protests in this country are not done to get a politician to act in a certain way. They're typically done to raise awareness and show others in the public that, hey, you're not alone. We support this. You support this. It's why we're in the streets. People weren't going to the No Kings demonstrations with the assumption that if everyone just showed up, Trump would change his mind. No. They were going to these protests, as ineffective as they may be, to show that no, most people are not with his program. You aren't alone. Look at all the fellow Americans around you who believe what you believe. That is a fundamentally different form of protest than showing up to a space to make demands from the mayor.
And if you look at the demands they're making, they're not unreasonable. Zohran has the power to remove the chief of police. The Police Commissioner, Jessica Tisch, is a Zionist. She is personal friends with Benjamin Netanyahu. He could very easily remove her and capitulate to those demands. That is why they are having this protest. He won't do it. And I've spoken about this before. There are reasons why he won't do it. Perhaps he has the power on paper, but he doesn't actually have the material power. You see, Zohran has no control over the police. Let's be honest with ourselves. He has no control over the NYPD. Yes, he is an elected official, and yes, according to our electoral system, he is supposed to have that power, but he does not materially possess it.
But let's be specific about what we're talking about here. Eric Adams appointed Jessica Tisch as NYPD commissioner in November 2024, after previously appointing Keechant Sewell. Under New York City's charter, the mayor appoints department commissioners and generally has the authority to remove officials appointed by a mayor. So why can't Mamdani do the same thing? Is it because he believes Tisch is the right person for the job? Is it because he thinks replacing her would be politically costly? Or is there an institutional pressure here that makes exercising that power much more difficult than it appears on paper? Every mayor has to navigate the relationship between City Hall and the police. That doesn't mean every mayor faces the same circumstances, but it does mean we can't simply say that changing the commissioner is impossible. We have to ask why Mamdani hasn't done it, and what would happen if he tried.
This should tell you everything you need to know about the limitations of electoralism in this country in terms of winning working-class power. They might say that he can't get rid of the chief of police because look at what they did to de Blasio. During the 2020 Black Lives Matter protests, the police sergeants' union publicized information about his daughter's arrest. Backroom discussions were had. They kidnapped his daughter and held her until he stood down on some of the things that he wanted to do to change the NYPD. So there's an implicit understanding that Zohran doesn't have the power to do anything in relation to the NYPD, because the NYPD has the monopoly on violence and will use that violence to protect themselves from that power. Zohran doesn't control the shooters. He might have been elected as chief of the block, but he doesn't control any of the shooters. But the broader question remains: what happens when an elected official's authority collides with a police institution that has its own interests, political allies, and capacity for retaliation? Is Mamdani facing an implicit threat? Is he anticipating the consequences of a confrontation? Or does he believe that maintaining the current relationship with the NYPD is politically advantageous?
So what does this mean if you're in the DSA? That's my primary concern. I don't live in New York City. In fact, most Americans don't. It is a pretty popular city, but it's not where every American lives. There are specific conditions in New York City that are interesting. It has a very high population of Jewish people. Those are his constituents. And so I do see some logic with him capitulating to the Zionist camp. But let's be precise about what we mean when we say Zionist, because the statistics get used to flatten a whole community into one political bloc, and that flattening is a weapon.
The Jewish Federations of North America finally asked the question directly: do you call yourself a Zionist? Only 37% said yes. Meanwhile, 88% say Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish, democratic state. The Forward reported that nearly half of American Jews reject all three labels—Zionist, non-Zionist, anti-Zionist. They don't want to be associated with a term that has become synonymous with apartheid, genocide, and ethno-supremacy.
But here's the contradiction the Jewish establishment can't escape. The same survey found that nearly half of the Jews who don't identify as Zionist or anti-Zionist accuse Israel of apartheid or genocide. Mimi Kravetz, chief impact officer at JFNA, argued that Zionism should properly mean "the right of the Jewish people to have a Jewish state." She's right. If you believe Jews constitute a nation entitled to a sovereign state in their "historic homeland" (please do not research how new of a language Hebrew is!), that's a Zionist belief. The label is not the belief. The belief is the belief. And the belief in a Jewish ethno-state is Zionism.
So the 37% measures label adoption, people who really love the word "Zionist". The 88% measures belief. 88%, what a synchronicity of a number huh? You can reject the label and still hold the belief. A large majority of American Jews hold a belief that is functionally Zionist, even as they increasingly reject the political movement that carried that belief from slow-moving concentration-camp-Gaza-West-Bank-Ghetto-Genocide into an American-Manufactured-Missile-Driven-Genocide.
But we shouldn't pretend that means Jewish New Yorkers are a Zionist monolith. They're not. Jewish Voice for Peace organized a march of about a thousand people in Manhattan to protest Netanyahu's presence at the UN General Assembly. Protesters chanted "Netanyahu, you cannot hide. We accuse you of genocide." They carried signs saying "He does not represent us." IfNotNow, Jews for Economic and Racial Justice, the American Council for Judaism, all organizing against the idea that the Israeli state speaks for Jewish people. These are Mamdani's constituents. They reject the equation of Jewish identity with Zionist politics. We should too, regardless of what internal party pundits suggest as political strategy for our elected.
So when Mamdani stands at a vigil organized by Israelis for Peace, he is not appealing to a unified Jewish base. He is choosing one large segment of it and normalizing that position at the expense of the Jews who see Zionism itself, even if not labeled that, as the problem. Every vigil like this normalizes the idea that Israel represents the Jewish people. It says: this is what Jewish mourning looks like. This is what Jewish memory looks like. This is what Jewish politics looks like. To weep for Israel is to weep for the Jewish people. It excludes the Jews who refuse that equation.
Mamdani may think he's threading a needle. He may think he's being pragmatic, speaking to his constituents, navigating impossible terrain. But he is serving the same imperialist interests that use Judaism as a shield for atrocity in the name of profit. Weapons manufacturers don't care whether the bombs are blessed by a rabbi or a pastor. They care that the bombs are sold.
When you are going to a vigil for Israelis for peace, that is a normalization act. That is normalizing Zionism as a political ideology, this liberal Zionism.
The group that organized the October 7, 2026, Union Square vigil was called Israelis for Peace. Not Jews for Peace, not Jews against Zionism. Israelis for Peace. Mamdani attended the event, which remembered the victims of the October 7 attacks in Israel. The fact that the organizers call themselves a peace group does not settle the reality of what it means to support Israel. What does attending that event communicate? Does it challenge the political framework that has enabled the genocide of Palestinians, or does it normalize a liberal Zionist position that treats the existence of a Jewish ethno-state as essential? Those are the questions I think we should be asking.
We have spent over the last 20 years as a country discussing, understanding, and seeking to rebuke systemic structures like white supremacy. We can absolutely acknowledge that these systemic structures of white supremacy lead to worse outcomes for non-white people in this country. We can absolutely acknowledge that white people in this country have privilege over non-white people. The system has been set up this way. It was set up this way before any of us were born. Many of us do not like this and wish to change it. This is why we have been having these intense discussions.
But what is really is Zionism? Zionism is an ethno-supremacist belief. It is a belief that the Jewish people are chosen by God, that they have a total mandate, that they are superior. And this belief system has an ethnostate that is actively committing genocide. Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and multiple other international organizations have made it abundantly clear, even prior to the events of October 7th, that Israel is a nation fundamentally founded on apartheid, no different than apartheid South Africa or Rhodesia, two countries that do not exist any longer. We can think of Gaza as a massive concentration camp even before October 7th, even before millions of pounds of American-made bombs fell on the civilians in Gaza. The average age in Gaza is around 15 years old. We have seen what it means to be an ethnostate. We have seen what that looks like. We have proof.
And this belief system of Zionism has infected churches all across the U.S., evangelical, Pentecostal, what have you. It is not a worship of Christ. It is a worship of Israel. It is a worship of Jewish supremacy. No one has the balls to say that. No one.
But we can see in real time how these structures of Jewish supremacy are resulting in mass killings of Palestinian children, mass killings carried out by bombs sent to Israel by the U.S. When a U.S. representative like Mike Huckabee, a devout evangelical Christian, talks about how people in Israel are God's chosen people and that's why we have to send them money, these are structural consequences of Jewish supremacy, no different than the structural consequences of white supremacy. In fact, Zionism is an offshoot of white supremacy. They say the Winchester is the rifle that won the West. We have to wonder in 50 years' time will there be a missile that is honored with the name, having won the Middle East? The missile that was dropped on an apartment building full of Palestinian civilians, perhaps. The root of imperialism is not religion. It is capitalism. It is the highest stage of capitalism. And who profits from this imperialism? Weapons manufacturers, whether it was Winchester in the 1800s, West, or Raytheon, Lockheed Martin in the 21st century. When a gold coin is coated in blood, it's worth more money to the imperialist. It's the same gold, but for some reason we seem to value it more. For every dollar spent on weapons, it's a dollar that's not being spent on healthcare, that's not being spent on housing, that's not being spent on better outcomes, that's not being spent on infastructure, that's not being spent on uplifting the working class. It is money that is being spent to kill another so that a capitalist can profit. What people like Mike Huckabee do, and what these Pentecostal evangelical churches do, and what these Jewish temples do, is use religion as the marketing mechanism to give an ideological coat of paint to what is primarily a material phenomena. 92% of Jewish people support the existence of Israel. How many Christians in America support the same? We should not make the mistake of believing this is a religious issue. It is a material capitalist issue. People like Mike Huckabee act as the spokespeople for this belief to mask the material causes of it. The excuses of Jewish persecution in the West necessitating the need for an ethnostate in the Middle East, an ethnostate that is built off of a wartime economy, is an ideological marketing mechanism.
And yet the representative, the man who is the figurehead over the DSA, stands steadfast with those supremacists. When he stands shoulder to shoulder with these supremacists, with these ethno-nationalists, with these imperialist marketeers, he normalizes their viewpoints and he normalizes their perspectives. In a sense, in that moment, at that vigil, he served the same purpose for the imperialist as Mike Huckabee. Using religion to market imperialism, furthering the connections between Zionism and Judaism, furthering the connections between Israel and the Jewish identity. Anti-Genocide Jews should be pissed at this normalization, this use of your sacred beliefs to murder children for profit.It is not a religious issue, it is an economic system using a religous mask.
We aren't allowed to ask all of these questions. We aren't allowed to think critically about the situation. We aren't allowed to critique him. No, we aren't allowed to say anything. We aren't allowed to have any issues with this. Aren't you just happy that he has power? Aren't you glad the socialists have power? But as we've already discussed, he really doesn't have nearly as much power as you think. And he would never say this. The prince has to save face. You don't get to the position that Zohran is in without understanding how these power dynamics work. So he could never come out and say outright, "I don't control the NYPD. They'll hurt me and my people and make my life a whole lot worse and harass my people and pull my people over. If you're a DSA member and we do this to the NYPD, you will be targeted in retaliation." He can't say that. But we can imply it and we can know it and understand it, which makes the critiques that I have seen from my fellow comrades that much more suffocating. Because all of the critiques are attacking those who are critiquing the mayor, the representative, the figurehead, Zohran Mamdani. As if because he won an election, all of a sudden we are no longer allowed to speak our mind.
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>>2929156Especially when you consider that there is effectively no other politician in the U.S. who would actually listen to the demands of the protesters. That's why they're making those demands. That's why they're protesting him and not Trump. If anything, the fact that those protesters showed up is a testament to what type of democracy we are trying to build. It is incredible how many so-called leftists and even DSA members stand against protests like these, as if gathering in a group and making demands of your elected officials isn't the backbone of our democracy, as if it isn't the truest expression of freedom of assembly and freedom of speech, as if it isn't one of the few things that makes America what it is in a positive sense. The DSA should stand unequivocally with these protesters and their right to express their free speech and opinions to their elected officials. These protesters are the working class making their voice heard.
And we should also look at what Mamdani has actually done. During his first days in office, he revoked executive orders from Eric Adams that included measures related to Israel, BDS, and the city's adoption of a definition of antisemitism. That is an example of using mayoral authority to change policy. But it also makes the question of his other decisions more important. If he can use executive authority in one area, why can't he use his authority to replace the police commissioner? What does he believe is possible in one case but not the other? What is the difference between a policy he can change on paper and an institution he believes he cannot confront? And we should be asking just how much power it takes to dissolve an executive order. Just how much power does it take to sign your name on a piece of paper in comparison to dealing with systemic, institutionally reinforced structures of violence?
Mamdani also campaigned on arresting Benjamin Netanyahu if he came to New York, but in July 2026 he said that the city did not have independent legal authority to enforce the International Criminal Court warrant and called on the federal government to act instead. That is a real legal constraint, not simply proof that he chose not to act. But what else can a mayor do when a campaign promise collides with the law? What political pressure can he apply? What can he do to challenge U.S. support for Israel? And what should the DSA demand from him when he cannot fulfill a promise in the way he originally described? And surely he knew that he could not fulfill this promise when he was being elected, when he was running for office. Surely the national and New York City DSA members that led his campaign were aware that arresting Netanyahu, who does in fact have a warrant for his arrest by the International Criminal Court, that was an impossibility. They must have known that. Why did they still run on that promise, knowing that it could never be fulfilled? And what other promises were made knowing they could not be kept? And what does that mean for us as socialists in this country when we make promises to the working class that we cannot keep?
These are exactly the contradictions that electoral victories can expose. Like a rose grows in the concrete cracks, revolution grows from contradiction. We elect representatives because we want them to do things that the existing system is designed to resist. We have represenatives, and being represented is not the same as material power. When these representatives encounter those limits, do we simply accept that nothing can be done? Or do we use that experience to figure out what kinds of organization and collective power would make those demands possible? We should not assume that every limit is imaginary, but we also should not assume that every limit is absolute. The question is what power Mamdani actually has, what he chooses to do with it, and what it would take to push him further.
But most people don't see it that way. Many, many people are willing to capitulate on core ideological issues so long as they get the feeling that their parasocial relationship is doing well. Because when you are a figurehead and your brand is built around making TikTok videos, when your brand is built around showing up and being the mayor in the suit who fills the potholes, people develop parasocial relationships. People develop emotional attachments. People lose their sense of pragmatism.
I fear that the actions of Zohran and the defense run by other DSA members for him, up to forcing the Youth DSA of New York City to remove the YDSA logos and endorsements of the protests so as not to conflict with the fact that Zohran is hand-picked by the New York City DSA, tells me a lot about how this organization holds its members accountable. There can be no censoring. There can be no demands made. There can be no excommunication. There can't even be a sit-down. I mean, maybe it would behoove the national body to sit down with Zohran and go, "Look, the plays you are making are not carrying over well in the public." But maybe they are playing well, his approval rating might not reflect reality. Maybe NYC DSA has a master plan none of us are smart enough to figure out. Maybe capitulating on ethno-supremacist ideologies and genocide is the true way that we win real power in this country. But the motherfucker doesn't even control his own shooters. And if you don't control your own shooters, you do not control your own block. So what power does Zohran really have, other than being a figurehead?
But what would it take to force Zohran to capitulate to these demands? If the DSA is not willing to work with these protesters because it feels that it has the mayoralty to defend, then who is supposed to organize that pressure? Who will lead this struggle? If the DSA is truly an organization with power outside of the electoral system, then where is that power when it comes time to make demands of one of its own elected officials?
What about the tenant unions? What about labor? What happens if workers in New York City organize a strike, and the demands are to stop Palestinian land sales in New York City and change the police commissioner? What if those two demands become the core demands of the protesters? Would the DSA help build the kind of pressure necessary to make those demands impossible to ignore, even if that meant directly confronting the mayor? Or would it tell those workers to be pragmatic, to protect the mayor, and to wait for a better time?
Because if the DSA isn't willing to help build that kind of pressure, then what is the point of organizing tenant unions and doing labor work in the first place? Is the goal to build working-class power that can act independently of elected officials, or is the goal to build a political base that can help elect more people into office? And if those two goals come into conflict, which one takes priority?
A politician can ignore a statement. They can dismiss a petition. They can tell protesters that their demands are outside the scope of their office. But what happens when workers collectively withhold their labor? What happens when tenants organize against their landlords? What happens when the people who helped elect an official organize independently and demand that the official act? That is the kind of power we should be thinking about when we talk about socialism. Not simply having someone in office, but building the collective capacity to make institutions respond to the people they govern.
And what does it say about the DSA's position as the leading socialist organization in America if it cannot do that? What does it say about its goal of actually gaining power? If we can organize people to canvass, phone bank, join unions, and build tenant organizations, then what is all that organizing ultimately supposed to accomplish? Is it supposed to give the working class the ability to make demands of the state, including demands of politicians we helped elect? Or is it supposed to make us more invested in protecting those politicians' careers once they get into office?
I want to make this incredibly clear. I do not care about the career of Zohran Mamdani. I do not care about the career of any national member. I do not care about the career of any politician in relation to their success in the Democratic Party. I do not give a fuck, and you should not either.
We are not here to make these people have successful careers. We are not here to make sure that these people get paid. I do not care if you are able to move from X elected position to Y elected position that pays better. We are not here to do anything other than win power, actual power, for the working class. The working class comes first. We fight for the working class. The DSA represents the working class of America. The working class is the only class with the power to change things, the only class that actually produces the labor that keeps the world spinning. The working class of both this nation and abroad. It is an international movement. Internationalism is the foundation of any working class movement.
You cannot say you are pro-working class if you are willing to allow working-class people in Palestine to be killed because of their ethnicity. Because they are, according to Zionists, inferior to the Jews that run Israel, and Israel must be a Jewish state, an ethno-state. No one is willing to say it up front and say it like it is, but I will.
Americans are tired of Israel-first politics. Americans are tired of the special treatments that Israelis get. Americans are tired of living in an economy that is predicated on manufacturing weapons of death, so that a few get rich while we all suffer and workers abroad are murdered for profit. And Americans aren't ignorant. We've seen dozens upon dozens of videos in our feed of exactly what has happened in Gaza. You can go on Google Maps now and look at what was done. Tens of thousands of people killed, innocent human beings murdered for profit, murdered in the name of an ethno-supremacist ideology. And more and more Americans are becoming increasingly aware that the majority of people killed at the Nova Festival on October 7th were not killed by Hamas. They were killed by Israel, Israeli forces, the IDF, under what they call the Hannibal Directive. How can you hold a vigil for the people that you killed to be used as propaganda to enable a genocide? The victims of the Nova Festival cannot be properly mourned so long as the Zionist narrative is allowed to propagate.
There is nothing that you could say to me that would convince me not to side with the people that are standing against genocide.
What is your pragmatic power worth if you don't control the NYPD and you can't stand against genocide? What has this election and what has this electoral position given us, if not just a figurehead? He calls for ICE to leave NYC, but cannot enforce this. We should not make excuses. We should understand what power is, how it functions, and why we lack it.
Listen,I am so grateful that we have someone to point to as an example of what we can do. It is a powerful thing to say, look, the mayor of New York City, the largest city, the most diverse city in this nation, is a DSA member. When I was arrested, and the detective told me that had me listed as a communist, anarchist radical, whatever label they will throw at you to make you fear the man with the badge and a gun. I simply replied that I am a member of the DSA, and the mayor of the largest city in this nation is a member as well. I wonder if the protestors arrested by the NYPD say the same thing?
But that rhetoric was powerful a year ago. We are a year into the mayoralty, and this government, this style of governing, it makes for great social media content. It makes for great parasocial relationships. It can be great for getting donations, and it has no doubt driven some of our recent recruitment numbers, people are excited about a socialist having power. Unfortunatly, it's very clear that this mayoral position, this electoral strategy, has not achieved any sort of actual material power. If it had, why are ICE still shooting, maiming and kidnapping people in NYC, and why does the NYPD protect them? Here in Florida, police act under the 287g agreement to act as ICE officers as well. If we elect someone into power, with the hopes of rebuking that agreement, what can we learn from Mamdami's interactions with the police? You quickly see why this matters on a national level.
And if you are a revolutionary socialist in this country, you need to think about why this electoral position does not have the material power we might have hoped it would have, especially as the bulk of the DSA's prospects are centered around these exact same electoral figureheads.
Our DSA chapter directly endorsed Angie Nixon. We have been phone banking and canvassing and getting people to come out, getting people registered to vote, and know that if Angie Nixon did what Zohran did, I would hold her just as accountable, because that is what you do. Politicians are public servants, and we should not accept public servants that side with ethno-supremacist ideologies and capitulate to genocide profiteers. Zohran Mamdani needs to get checked by the DSA. The people are watching, and they expect more. Our organization expects more. The working class expects more.
I'm under no illusion that electing a socialist senator would, by itself, make that much of a difference. The core of our governmental and economic system is predicated on imperialism. It's predicated on weapons manufacturers profiting from war and the destruction of working-class communities abroad. So what does it mean to elect another socialist if we haven't also built the power necessary to challenge those material interests? What would we expect Angie Nixon to do if she faced the same institutional pressures? And what would we, as an organization, be prepared to do if she failed to act on the demands we helped elect her to represent?
These are questions we should be asking before we elect people, while we campaign for them, and especially after they win. If our representatives are entering institutions structured to protect capitalist power, what are we building outside those institutions to counterbalance them? What is the plan when a politician's mandate conflicts with the interests of the state, the police, capital, or the imperialist system as a whole?
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>>2929155~90% of Jews identify themselves as Zionists in pre-october 7 polls.
>>2929156>>2929157And all of these questions are so important to me because I'm a DSA member. What does this mean if you're an organizer on the ground in other states? What are we supposed to learn from this? What do we tell people when we ask them to join the DSA, organize their workplaces, build tenant unions, and help elect socialist candidates? Are we building an organization that can use elections as one tool among many, or are we building an organization that becomes increasingly dependent on the success of its elected officials?
Because Zohran is not just the mayor of New York City. Whether he likes it or not, he the most visible representative of the DSA as a national organization. His decisions shape how people understand the DSA, what they believe socialism means in practice, and what they expect from the people who claim to represent them. For many people outside New York City, his mayoralty is one of the clearest examples they have of what the DSA is capable of doing.
And so when I hear that New York City Youth DSA was pressured to remove its logo and endorsement from the protests, allegedly at the behest of the NYC DSA steering committee, what does that say about the internal frictions happening within this organization? Why would a socialist organization feel the need to distance its own youth members from a protest making demands of a socialist mayor? Was the concern about the substance of the demands, the tactics being used, or the political embarrassment that the protest might cause the administration? Who gets to decide which concerns take priority? If younger members believe the mayor is failing to meet the demands of the movement, are they supposed to remain silent because their organization helped elect him?
The people who have been involved in the game of building the DSA, are they becoming more complacent in comparison to the people who are hungry and young and have that much less to lose? What do the gatekeepers owe the newcomers? DSA membership has swollen because of the conditions we live under, because of a desire for resistance. Are we becoming more concerned with protecting what we've already built than with asking whether what we've built is enough? Because, yes, things have gotten that much worse over the last ten years. Things have gotten that much worse since the DSA was founded. The political and economic conditions we are organizing under in 2026 are not the same as the conditions we were organizing under in 2018.
If the old strategy is no longer enough, then what comes next? More electoral campaigns? More elected officials? More social media content? Or do we need to build organizations capable of exercising power independently of the people we elect? What would it look like if labor, tenant unions, and socialist organizations coordinated their demands and were willing to use their collective power against an administration that refused to listen? What would it take to make that possible? And if the DSA isn't willing to help lead that effort when one of its own representatives is the person being challenged, then who will?
The DSA cannot simply be an organization that elects socialists and then expects the working class to defend them. If electoral victories reveal the limits of the existing system, then our job is to use those contradictions to build something stronger. The election gives us a representative. It doesn't give us power. Power comes from the people who organize, the workers who can withhold their labor, the tenants who can organize against their landlords, and the communities that make demands of the politicians they elect.
Erik Houdini
Vision Coordinator (Vice President) Polk County, FL DSA
Editor-in-Chief HOUDINI Magazine
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>>2929159>are they supposed to remain silent because their organization helped elect him?Organic centralism baby
>>2929158Then 10% don't. Enough
>>2929268Stop lobbying for the jews, Branko M. They don't deserve to be in the position of power. Peace.
>>2929422All too glad we have enough incoming pressure to keep the succ dems and the Democrackkkers in check. Their narrative control is effectively destroyed.
>>2929422thats called perfomative palestinianism, costs nothing and makes you look like you are defending principles that you never had in the first place
instagram screenshot of literal who
>>2929422Do we defend Fatah/Palestinian Authority too? Where’s the red line?
>>2929447 (me)
They own a number of restaurants (12+)
https://ananigroup.com/about >>2929447>>2929459>socialist>cutting red tape>supporting small businessIm tired boss
>>2929447Go to their page and tell them that.
>>2929447what exactly is this "red tape" that is being slashed? they only mention which sectors
Serves you right, you trusted a Rosa-killer.
>>2928973YHWH hates women so much that he throws the covenant with Moses away and prevents him from seeing the promised land for striking a rock with a stick out of frustration but lets David keep the covenant but kills the kid and ruins Bethsheba’s life when he’s a pedophile warlord, he’s objectively worse than Zeus or Odin who are also rapist warlord gods but more honest about it
>>2929781I wanted to post this one image but google image search results keep changing, I swea. One day we will all live in their AGI environment where no one will remember anything of the before times.
There was a good image that showed up in the results but here is just the quote.
Anyway, I found out it was the Zipporiah story. Zipper-Jew-bitch something. There was a cool graphic that was made before AI times but that can't be found on Jewgle anymore.
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/moses-zipporah-strangest-circumcision-story-exodus/ The Strangest Circumcision Story Ever If you were to make a short list of the strangest paragraphs in the Bible, Exodus 4:24–26 would almost certainly be on it. Moses has just met God at the burning bush and been given an exalted commission: go and speak to Pharaoh, and serve as God’s agent for the redemption of his people. He’s been called and equipped with miraculous powers, and now he begins to move out in fulfillment of his mission.
We’re not prepared for what comes next:
At a lodging place on the way the LORD met him and sought to put him to death. Then Zipporah took a flint and cut off her son’s foreskin and touched Moses’ feet with it and said, “Surely you are a bridegroom of blood to me!” So he let him alone. It was then that she said, “A bridegroom of blood,” because of the circumcision (Ex. 4:24–26).
What in the world is that all about?
Besides being unexpected, the text is difficult to make sense of because of the obscurity of the language. For example, it isn’t clear who “him” is in verse 24. Is it Moses or his son Gershom? We’re also not entirely sure who or what Zipporah touched with the foreskin of Gershom in verse 25; the ESV adds the word “Moses,” but that word is not in the Hebrew text.
And there are cultural obscurities equally hard to penetrate. The drama of the text seems to be driven by the disparity between the Midianite traditions surrounding circumcision and the Hebrew traditions as dictated to Abraham in Genesis 17. Given that we don’t have access to the Midianite traditions, reading Exodus 4:24–26 is a bit like listening to one half of a phone conversation.
Our best reconstruction is as follows.
Understanding What Happened
As Moses and his family were traveling from Midian to Egypt, God somehow arrested them and assaulted Moses (Moses is probably the “him” in verse 24). Perhaps Moses had a seizure or became suddenly ill; we aren’t sure precisely how this attack was carried out. We know his wife Zipporah understood immediately what was going on, and we can also infer that the attack was slow-acting enough for her to respond in some sort of atoning way. This suggests that the attack was never intended to be fatal. It was a warning, and it produced the intended result.
The main human actor in the story is Zipporah. Moses was incapacitated by the divine attack and Gershom was a child. That Zipporah knew precisely what to do in order to appease the Lord’s anger suggests that this wasn’t the first time she and Moses had discussed the issue of Gershom’s circumcision.
That Zipporah knew precisely what to do in order to appease the Lord’s anger suggests that this wasn’t the first time she and Moses had discussed the issue of Gershom’s circumcision.
Here our reconstruction is complicated by limited understanding of the Midianite ritual. Many historians suggest that the Midianites conducted the ritual just prior to the ceremony of marriage. Once a young man was betrothed, he’d undergo circumcision, followed by a time of recuperation, after which he’d marry his wife and consummate the marital union.
If that understanding is correct, then it would seem that Moses had effectively raised his son as a Midianite. He hadn’t circumcised him on the eighth day as God had commanded Abraham and all his descendants to do (Gen. 21:4). Perhaps Moses had deferred to Midianite customs out of respect for his father-in-law Jethro. The fact that God deals directly with Zipporah, however, suggests that she had been part of the reason for this inappropriate delay.
It would seem that Moses had effectively raised his son as a Midianite. He hadn’t circumcised him on the eighth day as God had commanded Abraham and all of his descendants to do.
Perhaps realizing this, Zipporah immediately takes the flint knife and circumcises Gershom, thus breaking with Midianite custom. With Moses incapacitated, however, she has no option but to perform the ritual the way she was familiar with. She takes the bloody foreskin and marks the child with it. Again, the word “Moses” isn’t in the Hebrew text of verse 25. Translators and commentators must therefore decide whether she is touching Moses or Gershom with the foreskin. It seems better to assume that touching the child was part of the Midianite ritual. As Douglas Stuart notes:
Zipporah touched the foreskin of Gershom to Gershom’s genitals from which it had been removed. “Feet” is one of the Hebrew euphemisms for genitals. She thus had physically circumcised Gershom, then immediately she symbolically used the removed foreskin to touch Gershom’s genitals and said the “right words.”
The ESV then has Zipporah saying, “Surely you are a bridegroom of blood to me!” (Ex. 4:25). However, the word translated as “bridegroom” equally means “kinsman.” Whether you translate it as “bridegroom” or “kinsman” is determined entirely by whether you believe she’s touching the foreskin to Moses or Gershom. It seems more likely that touching the young male with the foreskin made sense in the Midianite ritual. It was a way of saying: “By this blood and through this ritual you join and extend the family.”
God accepts the use of these words as an indication that the act was done in faith and obedience—and the story proceeds on from there.
Two Practical Takeaways
If our reconstruction is correct, then two lessons are suggested by the narrative.
- Leadership Begins at Home
Moses, God’s chosen leader, had thus far declined to follow God’s instructions regarding circumcision. Keil and Delitzsche remark, “But if Moses was to carry out the divine commission with success, he must first of all prove himself to be a faithful servant of Jehovah in his own house.” If you’re going to step out as a leader of God’s people then you’d better be leading your own family. Get yourself sorted out, and get your wife and yourself on the same page, before you attempt to function as any kind of leader or officer in the Lord’s house.
If you’re going to step out as a leader of God’s people then you’d better be leading your own family.
We see the same thing in the New Testament. Regarding the qualifications for a church elder, the apostle Paul says, “He must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive, for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God’s church?” (1 Tim. 3:4–5).
If a man isn’t leading his own house in the Lord’s ways, then he isn’t qualified to lead the congregation. This doesn’t mean perfection, but it does mean effort, courage, and attention to basics within the home.
- Faith Makes an Ordinance Effectual
Zipporah used words and actions more associated with Midianite practices than with Hebrew when it came to the circumcision of her son. She had limited options given the urgency of the situation and the incapacitation of her husband. Nevertheless, God accepted her version of the ritual because it was done in humility and faith.
The same sentiment appears in the New Testament with respect to the sacrament of baptism. Commenting on the analogous relationship between our salvation and the salvation affected for and through Noah, Peter states that it’s not the mere ritual of baptism that saves us, but rather “an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ” (1 Pet. 3:21).
If the act of baptism represents our appeal in faith to God for justification and absolution through the work of Jesus Christ, then it is effective. Not because we say magic words, and not because we use magic water, but because the resurrection of Jesus from the dead is itself powerful and effectual unto salvation.
Of course that doesn’t mean we should be sloppy in our practice of the ordinances. Zipporah wasn’t sloppy; she was ignorant. And ignorance, if it be paired with faith, is typically met with mercy. Thanks be to God!
Kek, imagine being the great brown socialist hope only to fuck up your entire political career by attending a vigil with Israelis.
>>2929783Oh another thing that bothers me, it makes sense as a populist reversal for God to sacrifice his son to humanity as a reversal of the Abraham and Isaac story, thus none of the poor have to sacrifice their only good cattle or sheep the local temple of whatever tyrant happens to rule them at the time, but even if it’s God’s own son and himself at the same time, it doesn’t reverse or redeem God’s own atrocities especially the destruction of Amalek that he
BREAKS THE COVENANT WITH SAUL OVER. Saul didn’t even spare the women and children of Amalek, but he spared the animals which YHWH commanded he kill too despite his chosen tribe being poor and hungry at the time. I get that this was the aftermath of the bronze age collapse but come the fuck on, how does the sacrifice of any one man make up for all that let alone what he allows David and Solomon to do?
>>2929791>Oh another thing that bothers me,You are not me, but I don't know if you tried to intentionally confuse anybody, but continue in your own words.
>>2929792I’m
>>2929781 , not trying to confuse anyone I’m just drunk and confused about how anyone reconciles the YHWH of the old
Testament with the forgiveness and reconciliation story of Jesus
>>2929794There’s no fucking way the same God who is cool with everything David and Solomon do is also Jesus’ dad and also perfect with no character development or mistakes thus implying learning and flaws the way Superman or Spiderman learn and have flaws, it makes zero sense even on its own terms as myth
>>2928724Mamdani is a neocon.
AOC is a neocon.
Rubio (top GOP pick for 2028) is a neocon.
How the fuck do we finally end this?
>>2928213>He quotes the satanic Talmud which calls for Jews to enslave and oppress “goyim” in order to appease Zionists.a book you've never read and understand only through known rabbi-scholar chud fuentes
>Now he attends a “memorial” lead by an “Israeli” hasbara group to memorialize 1200 Zionist settlers killed during the greatest act of anti-colonial resistance in modern history.oct 7 crocodile tears etc. but conscription is different from ameriKKKan volunteerSS and is better used as a point against how israel's harm is universal
>>2929789Zionists killed the hope of socialism in America.
>>2929973Kek, rabbit fuentes. Come on now, folks, zionists don't practice judaism any more than maga practices christianity.
>>2929855End of the nation, end of the national bourgeoisie, and the further growth of The Real Movement
>>2929573the chief paradox of building communism seems to me the militancy of it. being a highly disciplined grunt in a red army during a revolutionary civil war is much more miserable than the average prole life during peace time. especially in a modern 1st world developed country. people would in fact rather become revisionists and opportunists and reformists than put on the budenovka and get in the trench.
>>2930079We are far past the time when the ultra-orthodox were neutral on Zionism.
>>2930126uhm, you're wrong sweaty, the jacobinites and DSA told me social democracy is an agent of disruption or something
https://catalyst-journal.com/2026/07/social-democracy-as-an-agent-of-disruption >>2930181>wants the freedom of never having to think of work again.I cant really blame him, my beef is with his dickriders more than with him
Zohran is a reactionary rosa-killer zionist
>>2930181>who wants the freedom of never having to think of work again.Being a demdoc rather than a standard dem would be counterproductive to that goal. He want work to be more visible, but with an organized proletariat so things are more efficient, and thus more lucrative. It's dengism.
>>2930196I mean that he doesn't want to ever worry about working, himself, not wrt workers as a class. AFAIC He wants the clout and connections to become idle rich. Maybe entertain himself with politics from time to time and keep proximity to the elite, but that's about it. I'm not sure he believes in anything political.
One has to be a very cynical person to ride on Palestine and then switch to Zionism. Honesty is already crossed off because of that. I don't think he's dumb,or he did it by accident.I just think one can't gleam anything from a person who's essentially a performer by profession and has very little previous history and has already proven dishonest.
>>2930198>AFAIC He wants the clout and connections to become idle rich. Maybe entertain himself with politics from time to time and keep proximity to the elite, but that's about it.Fair. Even if he does care about this stuff somewhat, he doesn't have material reason to care to reinforce that. Someone who hasn't felt an empty stomach in a long time speaks of hunger in the abstract.
>>2930077All this means is we need better socialists. Not that Zohran being exposed as a Zio ended the prospects for an American socialism.
>>2930251>>2930252>metzitzah b'peh>"sex magick"Yeah, keep this shit in /pol/.
>>2930286he deserves his own apology form at this point
>>2930272These people have no power anymore and are all Democrats now.
>>2930541
you kind of answered your own question, chud
>>2930545you really told em off. those posters on leftypol dot org imageboard on the internet
>>2930251Kek, imagine the outcry if Muslims were doing this.
>>2930552I am a regular here
>>2930252>Practice KabbalahOkay you're just a fucking moron. Kabbalah doesn't actually involve sex if you knew what it was. LARPers who think they're practicing it have to keep themselves from lust to "ascend." If you truly are from /Pol/ like it seems you are, check out /x/ sometime
>>2930545I wouldn’t want a revolution lead by any posters here, or any poster on any site for that matter
>>2930640Hope she’s enjoying that $7000.
Anybody that had even an ounce of faith in a DSA pseudoleft grifter needs to stop what they're doing and read some fucking theory right fucking now
>>2930595Unironic trvke, people who are loud online 9 times out of 10 don't understand real life in the slightest and the negative stereotypes of online people exist for a good reason
>>2930640She hates white people and biracial people.
>>2928932after being anti-zio for years, yes, people care about what the funny old man has to say
>>2930640I agree with her.
Zohran is reactionary bourgeois zionist scum, fucking nazi
>>2928625>>2928837of course typical western faggots think a genocide of third worlders comes second to their personal "muh affordability"
you animals don't deserve life
>He quotes the satanic Talmud
OP is a fascist and it's telling that the moment you get burned by another liberal you fall over each other to see who can couch the most fascist bullshit within pseudo-"left" rhetoric.
>>2932556multipolarism: the highest stage of lassalleanism
Mamdani Is the Centrist We’ve Been Waiting For
Ever since Zohran Mamdani exhilarated the left with his out-of-nowhere mayoral campaign, mainstream Democrats have been dejectedly searching for an inspirational figure of their own. Where is the Democratic executive who has the media savvy to inspire his own cultlike following while making pragmatic governing decisions and ignoring the incessant demands of progressive activists?
At last, the moderates have found such a Democrat. His name is Zohran Mamdani.
Mamdani’s election, which created the theoretical prospect of 8.5 million Americans living under “the warmth of collectivism,” as he once put it, was met with understandable shock. The reality, however, has been far more mundane.
Mamdani’s campaign platform already contained several gestures to moderates. He said he would retain Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch, who is, to put it plainly, a billionaire Zionist cop, three things never in favor with the hard left. He also pledged to liberalize permitting to encourage more housing construction by private developers. When The New York Times asked him during the campaign, “What’s one issue in politics that you’ve changed your mind about?” Mamdani cited “the role of the private market in housing construction.”
Most important, Mamdani emphasized the importance of efficiency in city services. This might sound like an ideologically neutral goal, and it has been embraced at times by the leaders of left-wing governments—including Milwaukee’s “sewer socialists” during the early to mid-20th century. But efficiency creates tension with progressive interest groups, which generally care less about maximizing taxpayers’ bang for the buck than maintaining secure jobs and high wages for public employees.
Once elected, Mamdani retreated from some of his progressive ambitions. Among his splashiest campaign promises was “fast, free” bus service. Skeptics had questioned the wisdom of forgoing the revenue from bus fares, especially given the possibility that free buses would become mobile homeless shelters inhospitable to other New Yorkers. Mamdani still says he wants free buses, but in his initial proposal, released in concert with Governor Kathy Hochul, he quietly adopted the position of his critics, dropping the plan to eliminate fares and focusing instead on speed and reliability. He shrank another of his most ambitious proposals, universal child care for 2-year-olds, into a more gradual expansion, beginning with a modest increase of 2,000 new seats this fall and a goal of adding more in subsequent years.
During the campaign, Mamdani promised to establish an “Office of Community Safety,” which would cost $1 billion a year and task civilian workers instead of police officers with responding to mental-health emergencies. This notion was itself a compromise. As a state-assembly candidate, he’d endorsed defunding the police. As a mayoral candidate, he suggested shifting responsibilities. But as mayor, Mamdani wound up providing just over $40 million a year for this service, or 4 percent of the promised amount.
As a candidate, Mamdani said he would relinquish mayoral control of schools—a key demand of teachers’ unions, which understand that putting schools under the direction of school-board officials elected in low-turnout races gives the unions enormous leverage over education policy. He reversed that position even before he took office. Perhaps he realized that voters would hold him accountable for school performance, and that his goals would not be served by ceding authority to an interest group whose incentive is to maximize teacher pay and job security rather than to produce good outcomes for students. He has also put off a promise to reduce class sizes, which teachers’ unions care about but which is not an especially cost-effective way to promote learning gains.
Mamdani did follow through on his promise to freeze rent for about 40 percent of the city’s apartments, even though nearly any economist would say that the freeze makes housing less affordable in the long run. But this move merely followed decades of ineffective precedent. Mamdani’s most novel position on housing has been to push for a streamlined approval process to unlock more private home construction.
He has pushed Albany to raise taxes dramatically on wealthy New Yorkers, although so far he has settled for a pied-à-terre tax on second homes worth more than $5 million. And he has continued to pursue his goofy notion of opening city-run grocery stores that he believes would hold down food prices. It is difficult to see how this project could succeed, because public employees have little expertise in the complex supermarket business, and subsidizing public stores to undercut their competitors on price would both threaten small businesses and encourage black-market reselling. But Mamdani met these and other objections to his plan by scaling the public stores back to the size of a small demonstration project.
At the same time, he has made many overtures to moderates. He unveiled an initiative to combat anti-Semitism, which some pro-Palestinian activists have denounced for funding Jewish organizations that are Zionist. He also maintained the NYPD’s Strategic Response Group, which has policed terrorist threats and aggressive protest tactics by activist organizations. The DSA has called this group “specialized units used to suppress dissent” and demanded that Mamdani abolish it. Leftists have denounced all of these moves, which prioritize security for the targets of protesters at the expense of the freedom of protesters to harass their targets.
More recently, he has infuriated the left by refusing to fire Tisch after ICE agents shot a New Yorker earlier this month. Instead, Mamdani praised Tisch—one of the best police commissioners in recent memory—for fighting corruption and bringing the murder rate to its lowest level in years.
Mamdani has not abandoned his antagonism toward Israel, which is the issue that animated his early career in politics and has helped endear him to the left. In his statement commemorating the October 7 massacre of Israelis, he devoted most of his attention to Palestinian victims of Israel’s counterattack. But if not everybody loves the balance he has struck, he is at least attempting to strike one. Mamdani has grasped the value, or at least the necessity, of reassuring Jewish New Yorkers of their safety, even if they disagree with him on the Middle East. This commitment has placed him at odds with the most radical elements of the Free Palestine movement, which have sought to make Zionists uncomfortable, if not outright frightened. When anti-Israel activists booed Mamdani and accused him of perpetrating genocide last week, they were responding to the fact that he is acting as a mayor for the city’s entire population, not the most fanatical elements of his base.
It’s possible that, in his heart, Mamdani would rather be leading a genuine socialist revolution than making hype videos of city workers filling potholes. But enacting socialism is notoriously harder than calling for it at a rally. It’s especially tricky to pull off in a city that faces severe fiscal constraints, whose rich denizens can easily move to nearby jurisdictions to protect their wealth, and that relies heavily on cooperation from the state legislature and the governor. A similar mismatch between ambition and authority applies to Mamdani’s vision of a post-Zionist Middle East, which lies well beyond the purview of his municipal powers.
To his credit, Mamdani has confronted quickly the hard realities that other socialist leaders have learned more painfully, trading his Marxist dream of revolutionary transformation for patient gradualism. Mamdani has adapted quickly to the limits of his office. His political talent (and core of allied social-media influencers) has enabled him to maintain his base of adoring fans even as he confines his work to humdrum municipal governance. Mamdani has discovered that socialism can succeed in New York through one simple trick: abandoning socialists
Yay
>>2932652why cant china pay?
>>2930104Thats because they are not proletarian. Almost everyone in imperialist countries are petit-bourgeois. If you get unemployment benefits and rent subsidies you are petit bourgeois. There is a handful of workers in third world country doing slave labor for your privlege to afford luxuries even as unemployed.
>>2935092
>Das right, goi boi, ARYANsrael wonned, keep leaking your Tiny Antizionist Pecker, Palestine and Pro-Pali clittycels LOST GEEEEEEEEEG!
american socdems are finally going mask off I see
>>2928213>He quotes the satanic Talmud which calls for Jews to enslave and oppress “goyim” in order to appease Zionists. Not Jewish myself, but thats just idiotic. Jews don't even believe in the Devil. So how can they be Satanic
apart from a church of Satan edgy atheist thing, which is not the case hereMy understanding is that the Talmud is a record of rabbinical discussions and disagreements. There's even an argument a rabbi has with God (the rabbi the argument.) So you can find the Talmud "calling" for all sorts of things.
>>2935925You should kill yourself.
>>2935925>If you get unemployment benefits and rent subsidies you are petit bourgeois.Bro the entire global south are small capitalists then LMAO
>>2928973I quote it whenever i do something subversive and antisocial. Like any judeo-bolshevik worth their salt would.
Israel and Zionism WON
Far-leftists, antizios and Arabs LOST
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