The essence of Grift is to create a problem that exists but doesn't need to exist, and to repeatedly sell a whackamole solution to it that doesn't get at the root cause of the problem.
My favorite 2 are law enforcement and drug rehab.
Drug rehab doesn't actually remove addictive substances from society, it just charges people exorbitant fees to "Recover" no drug rehab center actually has a long term financial interest in seeing drug addiction permanently eradicated.
Law enforcement officials often cause or exacerbate crime by being military occupiers of urban communities they don't even live in. Crime takes the form of resistance against the police, and the police view the population they "enforce the laws" against as disobedient animals. A cop loves nothing more than to plant drugs on a homeless person and use that as a pretext for arresting them, or to bait a person into illegal behavior through provocation, as a pretext for arresting them. Pig stations get more budgets based on the arrests they make and tickets they give, so there is a direct incentive for them to create more crime to get more budget, even if it means creating crime that would otherwise not exist. Crime is a byproduct of policing also because capital hungers for prison labor, which comes more cheaply and with less legal protections than the standard "free" working class population.
Find me a single "soft on crime" socialist countyr in history. Crime reduces when you put criminals in prison for a long time.
The capitalist class deliberately let's crime fester to create divisions and distrust among proles, and to make them vote for right wing politicians who claim to be hard on crime (they never truly are).
99% of the victims of the parasitic lumpenproles are proles and other lumpen. "Soft on crime" is an anti working class policy.
>>2936528Working class is a meaningless buzzword at this point
>>2936545When faced with a dissenting viewpoint you can't argue against you decide to deny reality/Marxism itself. Typical behavior from your kind.
my favorite genre of leftist are the ones who declare that all crime is the product of capitalism and under communism we will simply have no police, prisons or laws
but if you ask them how supply chains will work under communism well sorry, that's "utopian"
>The state will be able to wither away completely when society adopts the rule: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", i.e., when people have become so accustomed to observing the fundamental rules of social intercourse and when their labor has become so productive that they will voluntarily work according to their ability. “The narrow horizon of bourgeois law", which compels one to calculate with the heartlessness of a Shylock whether one has not worked half an hour more than anybody else–this narrow horizon will then be left behind. There will then be no need for society, in distributing the products, to regulate the quantity to be received by each; each will take freely “according to his needs".
>From the bourgeois point of view, it is easy to declare that such a social order is “sheer utopia” and to sneer at the socialists for promising everyone the right to receive from society, without any control over the labor of the individual citizen, any quantity of truffles, cars, pianos, etc. Even to this day, most bourgeois “savants” confine themselves to sneering in this way, thereby betraying both their ignorance and their selfish defence of capitalism.
>Ignorance–for it has never entered the head of any socialist to “promise” that the higher phase of the development of communism will arrive; as for the greatest socialists’ forecast that it will arrive, it presupposes not the present ordinary run of people, who, like the seminary students in Pomyalovsky’s stories,[2] are capable of damaging the stocks of public wealth “just for fun", and of demanding the impossible.
People of the higher phase are just built different.
>>2936528>Find me a single "soft on crime" socialist countyr in history.All of them. Socialist countries have historically practiced rehabilitative solutions to crime, as they were based on Marxist theory which said that crime was a product of conditions imposed by capitalism.
>Crime reduces when you put criminals in prison for a long time.Every single study points to the fact that harsh punishment does not reduce crime and it only incentivizes recidivism especially when you don't provide rehabilitation for criminals for re-entry into normal society, such as the USA.
>The capitalist class deliberately let's crime fester to create divisions and distrust among proles, and to make them vote for right wing politicians who claim to be hard on crime (they never truly are). The capitalist class are themselves composed of criminals who make the laws and who operate for-profit prison systems. They do not let crime "fester", they are the source of all crimes and create laws that shield themselves and their friends while putting working class people effectively into decades and lifelong slavery in prisons, often for victimless crimes. This is what OP refers to as the "grift".
>99% of the victims of the parasitic lumpenproles are proles and other lumpen. "Soft on crime" is an anti working class policy.There are more ordinary working class people that suffer under militarized law-enforcement than are victims of low-level criminals. Every criminal that belongs to any kind of organized crime group ultimately takes orders from someone in the capitalist class. "Soft on crime" and "Hard on crime" are ultimately both completely empty phrases because all it means is whether you want a totalitarian police state or not. Your entire post is reactionary nonsense.
>>2936577>which executes thousands annually as a state secretThat's actually the US, but okay.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_Soviet_Union
>Capital punishment in the Soviet Union was a legal penalty for most of the country's existence. The claimed legal basis for capital punishment was Article 22 of the Fundamental Principles of Criminal Legislation, which stated that the death penalty was permitted "as an exceptional measure of punishment, until its complete abolition".[1]
>According to Western estimates, in the early 1980s Soviet courts passed around 2,000 death sentences every year, of which two-thirds were commuted to prison terms.[2] A 1991 Helsinki Watch report stated that in January of that year the Soviet Union for the first time published capital punishment data. It was disclosed that, in 1990, 445 individuals were given the death sentence, 195 people were executed and 29 death sentences were commuted. Execution took the form of a gunshot to the back of the head.[3] The death penalty was not applied to minors or pregnant women
>During the Second All-Russian Congress of Soviets of Workers' and Soldiers' Deputies in November 1917, the government of Soviet Russia decreed the abolition of the death penalty. In February 1918, the death penalty was reinstated. Hangings and shootings were very extensively employed by the Bolsheviks as part of their Red Terror.[5]
>The first person to be sentenced to death by a Soviet court was Alexey Schastny, Admiral of the Baltic Fleet, on 21 June 1918.[2] Conditional death sentences were also delivered in the early 1920s.[4] Decrees issued in 1922, 1923 and 1933, repealed in 1959, provided police with the right to carry out summary executions.[4] Capital punishment was abolished on 26 May 1947, but reinstated in 1950.[6] Capital punishment was extended to cases of aggravated murder in 1954 >>2936578Whatever the number, it's not a secret that they execute people.
>While China does not publish overall national totals, it does occasionally publicize high-profile individual cases in state media to serve as public deterrents (e.g., severe corruption, major drug trafficking, or violent high-profile crimes):
<Amnesty International's Database: When Amnesty monitored publicly available Chinese news reports and court databases (such as China Judgements Online), they documented hundreds of individual death penalty cases in public records. However, researchers noted that thousands of execution records are deliberately omitted or scrubbed from public court databases.
<Consequently, if you strictly count only the individual cases publicly disclosed or reported in Chinese state news media and accessible court notices, the verified minimum count ranges in the low hundreds per year, though human rights groups emphasize that this reflects a small fraction of the actual total. >>2936559What the fuck are you talking about? Of course there can be no police, prisons, or (bourgeois) laws under communism. The state and all of its organs will cease to exist.
Yeah cuz the homeless don’t do drugs on their own they need evil copppers to plant it on them!
Imagine believing this lmfao that’s how you know you’re dealing with some white child from the suburbs
>>2936577>Such as?Yugoslavia, East Germany, Cuba, and yes even China's system is better than the USAs and shows lower rates of recidivism and better outcomes because they focus on rehabilitation and they don't have for profit prison systems. Your whining about capital punishment has nothing to do with the differences between capitalist criminal justice systems and socialist ones, which is obvious because you didn't even bother to address any of the other points. The USA has more criminals in prison than any other country on Earth and it hasn't seemed to solve its crime problems at all, contrary to your claims. You're a reactionary masquerading as a leftist.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225595158_A_critical_review_of_past_studies_on_China's_corrections_and_recidivismhttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/238431762_Social_Control_and_Recidivism_in_China >>2936591>Your whining about capital punishment has nothing to do with the differences between capitalist criminal justice systems and socialist ones, How did I whine about it? How does it not have to do with anything? Capital punishment is the very opposite of the idea of rehabilitation. Most of the world has banned it yet most of the AES countries still have it.
>>2936593Unless you can prove that AES countries all kill people or lock them up for decades for minor crimes like they do in America then your point proves nothing and OP stands correct in stating that the American criminal justice system is a grift and fosters a system that encourages criminal behavior for these purposes. The fact is that the vast majority of criminals went through rehabilitative processes in Socialist countries, they didn't just shoot them all for littering or doing drugs. Even in China they only execute people for things like large-scale drug trafficking or high-level embezzlement, and they often suspend sentences for capital punishment.
>>2936602Why does it have to be compared to the US specifically? What about all the other capitalist countries that have abolished the death penalty?
>Unless you can prove that AES countries all kill https://www.British Broadcasting Corporation.com/news/articles/cqjk4lwddz0oEleven people sentenced to death in Vietnam drug trafficking case >>2936606>Why does it have to be compared to the US specifically? What about all the other capitalist countries that have abolished the death penalty? Because OP was talking specifically about the US. Even if they didn't mention it specifically, it's obvious. I don't really know why you want to bring up those other countries that have abolished the death penalty because it's not helping your case, in fact it's doing the exact opposite. All those countries that are "soft on crime" across the board have better criminal justice outcomes and less recidivism. I think China and Vietnam should abolish the death penalty but it doesn't mean that they're as bad as the American police state.
Also, you didn't even read what I said. Vietnam executed 11 people out of 227 people involved in one of the country's biggest drug trafficking cases. That is a very big difference from being "hard on crime" and putting random people away for decades for a few ounces of weed like we do in America, or preying on poverty stricken areas and aggressively policing them and having the entire local court system shoot people and put innocent people away for life because they match a description so that they can appear to be "tough on crime".
>>2936528>Find me a single "soft on crime" socialist countyr in history.there aren't any socialist countries, there are only capitalist countries with red flags
>Crime reduces when you put criminals in prison for a long time.amerikkka puts more and more people in jail yet crime keeps going up there. why? because they don't take care of the root causes. anyway people get criminalized in the first place as an excuse to throw them in jail. criminal is just a category that the state creates to designate certain people as targets. every communist revolutionary was a criminal in the eyes of the bourgeois state. according to you the solution to socialist revolutionaries is to put them in jail for a long time.
>The capitalist class deliberately let's crime fester they define what crime is in the first place, and they define communist revolution as a crime.
> to create divisions and distrust among proles, and to make them vote for right wing politicians who claim to be hard on crime (they never truly are). the truly criminal class is in power and defines what crime is. when proles say "crime" they typically mean "the behavior of the ruling class" when the ruling class says "crime" they typically mean "the behavior of the unruly proles". Let's not confuse the prescriptive with the descriptive. Currently, in capitalist society, crime means the latter, because of who the ruling class is. Nevertheless prisons and cops don't make crime go down, any more than firefighters reduce the number of fires that start. firefighters can only put out fires once they start. Who actually has the power to reduce the number of fires that start in the first place? The people who understand the root cause of fires starting.
>99% of the victims of the parasitic lumpenproles are proles and other lumpen. "Soft on crime" is an anti working class policy.under what mode of production
>>2936545terrible reply to a terrible post. you should be interrogating the category of crime, not the category of working class.
>>2936559made up a guy to get mad at instead of replying to the content of the OP award