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>https://www.mcgill.ca/newsroom/channels/news/researchers-delve-incels-rejection-work-and-study-365369

1 in 3 incels have already dropped out of the workforce. Right wingers were spamming Self Improvement content everywhere for years in a desperate attempt to keep incels in the workforce. Shifting the blame on the individual while the problem is societal. Gym memberships, protein supplements, books and courses, were all a gimmick. A false hope selling industry, making a profit out of young men's misery.

Today, the looksmaxxing culture is just the new rebrand of the Self Improvement industry. Same fraud, different name. And right wingers are behind the spam.

Truth is societal problems CANNOT be fixed with atomic solutions. This is insanity, it's like trying to repair your house during an earthquake. Even if everyone became a male model tomorrow women would still chase 20% of the best men. You cannot outcompete billions.

There's only one solution and both left wingers and right wingers tremble before hearing it but its the truth. State mandated relationships. Ban dating apps who give women infinite options and milk men out of money and start regulating the dating market.

Use AI to match people and ban serial dating and break ups without a serious justification. Until then, the West will only keep getting worse and more men will drop out of school and the workforce

this is bait or mental retardation

>>2937273
RAPE ALL INCELS

>>2937273
We could make people have more female babies i think. More demand, but i might be wrong

>>2937274

Communists gave everyone a house and a wife, why are you against socialism in the dating market?

>>2937273
the problem is not that women pursue the top 20% of men, the problem is that
(a) the opportunity cost of having a relationship has increased because there are more fun things to do
(b) the random occurrences that lead people to drift into a relationship have faded, now it's something you actively have to choose to do
(c) most incels are actually resentful of their low social status, rather than their lack of a relationship as such. their actual problem is being too low-openness, dispositionally, to realise that they can choose an alternative status hierarchy. this is why furries are often ostensibly a similar kind of loser, yet much less fucked up: because they've got social status in their community instead of crying that they're not mid-high status by the imagined general standards of a society that no longer exists.

i support incel socialism
nationalise foids

>>2937286
What the actual fuck are you talking about. Furrydom is utterly dominated by people with high status and high-net worth professional jobs, because it's a very expensive luxury hobby. Every so-called 'alternative hierachy subculture' or how you want to call is usually exposed as just another reflection of the material conditions within wider bourgeois society because it is usually dominated by the same big spenders and those that possess the biggest cultural, social and hard capital. You are utterly delusional my uygha and your kitchen psychology is horrendous neoliberal idealism.

>>2937292
furrydom is too diffuse to be dominated. e.g. i can name a bunch of broke unemployed transwomen who make comics about depressed furries with <2000 followers who i regard as some of the greatest living artists (but i will not, because i don't think they deserve to suffer the kind of losers who post here) but maybe like 3 big probably rich-ish fursuiters tops.

online, cultural and social capital is unreasonably powerful relative to physical capital. this is one reason why billionaires have all gone fucking insane: they are no longer unambiguously amongst the highest status people simply by virtue of their bank account. people of no particularly special financial means on twitter mindbroke elon musk so badly that he bought the place and tries, mostly unsuccessfully, to have it glaze him. were your theory correct and it could all be reduced down to "real" capital, musk would be genuinely popular and regarded as cool by people who were themselves generally popular and regarded as cool, rather than clearly wallowing in the loser pit with the other loser pigs while people who can't even make rent go "at least i'm not that guy"

>>2937304
>furrydom is too diffuse to be dominated. e.g. i can name a bunch of broke unemployed transwomen who make comics about depressed furries with <2000 followers who i regard as some of the greatest living artists (but i will not, because i don't think they deserve to suffer the kind of losers who post here) but maybe like 3 big probably rich-ish fursuiters tops.

I think that you or they are being dishonest or either dumb or naive (or all three) if you take this shit at face value. Every single subculture or genre that has some sort of faux-countercultural undercurrent is full of poser boogies that have a fake identity as tragic and broke artists. As far as online subcultures go I would personally say that furrydom quite literally is one of the most hierarchical and most dominated by capitalist hierachy. Also Furrydom isn't diffuse at all it is literally one of the most racially and socially uniform subcultures there is when looking at demographic surveys.

>people of no particularly special financial means on twitter mindbroke elon musk so badly that he bought the place and tries, mostly unsuccessfully, to have it glaze him. were your theory correct and it could all be reduced down to "real" capital, musk would be genuinely popular and regarded as cool by people who were themselves generally popular and regarded as cool, rather than clearly wallowing in the loser pit with the other loser pigs while people who can't even make rent go "at least i'm not that guy"


This is total cope. Just because he isn't popular within your circle of friends doesn't mean he isn't popular at all. He still has cultivated a huge following of tech bro Teslastans that span different communities.

>The West CANNOT survive
Good let it burn to the ground. The West has brought nothing other than misery and pain to everyone, including Westerners themselves. What astonishing accomplishments have Americans achieved with their hegemony over the past 30 years alone? Destroying Iraq? Destroying Syria? Destroying Libya? Crypto scams? The 08 financial crash? Increased corn syrup exports?

>>2937281
>Communists gave everyone a house and a wife
housing? yes. getting someone to consent to live with your and have your kids? that's your probem

THE VVEST VVILL FALL
RESPECT THE BOLSHEVIK COCK

>>2937332
nah that's individualism, there were no incels in Communist countries

>>2937321
do you really hear "high social capital" when someone says "tech bro Teslastans" or do you think "insufferable fucking losers that actively drag you down by association"
i had much the same general outlook on furries maybe 5 years ago and it was entirely a sublimation of my own bitterness and resentment at being a fucking loser who only used imageboards and came up with reasons this made me superior to everyone else and so i didn't have to change. it was asinine. stop being mad and resentful and start doing something that will win you enough social status to get by. find something you're good enough at to parlay with and keep in mind it's all just a game and that middling numbers are fine.

>>2937343
>do you really hear "high social capital" when someone says "tech bro Teslastans" or do you think "insufferable fucking losers that actively drag you down by association"

The point is that what you and I think personally about Elon Musk is utterly irrelevant to the argument at hand you fucking idiot.

>>2937343
>i had much the same general outlook on furries

No, you fucking didn't. Like above in the Elon Musk example you are totally unable to separate your own personal sympathy from a subculture and not engage in materialist analysis. You are confusing fundamental critique on the existence of subcultures and their characteristics within class society with general dislike of that subculture's members for whatever reason. Likely because you are an idiot. Furrydom reproduces the same hierarchies within its subculture that exist outside of it, in fact it's one of the worst culprits of that because it is fundamentally a very expensive hobby to go all the way. Any view other than that is pure fucking idealism.

we should unironically set up a publicly funded dating service of some kind doe. all the capitalist ones just want money out of you. they all suck

Only jealous insecure people hate incels.
I feel pity for them. Which is why I help them.

>>2937353
i mean this sincerely and without malice: are you semi-illiterate? you've quoted the same post twice as though they are different posts, and in your second instance you've clearly stopped reading the sentence half way, right before the crucial marker of past tense.

it is not simply a matter of differing personal opinions to say, simply, that musk and his followers are not cool. one may not be able to pin it down and quantify it exactly, but it is a manifestly obvious underlying condition. there are people out there who are cool who i loathe and detest, but who clearly have clout. musk does not. he has money, he has power, but he is not and will never be cool. you cannot simply handwave away a huge underlying force of human culture by going "yeah but that's just like, your opinion!", especially when it comes to matters of taste (coolness).

it is apparent to me that it's a waste of time talking to you but i'll do this for the benefit of anyone else reading: the mistake this poster makes is that he imagines my analysis comes from a place of personal sympathy. i do not hide my sympathies, but this is not the case: what i do, and what i recommend all of you do, is extend materialist analysis fully to how individual human psychology works and the dynamics of the media we use. we judge our status relative to those around us! different mediums fundamentally shape the content they contain - you get very different posts on imageboards, on reddit, on twitter and on furaffinity because the fundamental underlying design of each creates different affordances for different styles of posting. "material conditions" goes much further than just "who is booj and who is prole" quickly handwaved to "who is rich and who is poor", especially when we're talking about something like coolness/social capital on the internet.

p.s. the idea one has to "go all the way" and spend lots of money is asinine. even if i were to concede that to become among (say) the top 10% "coolest furries", you've gotta buy an expensive suit and as much art as you can imagine - so what? why not settle for being in the top 50%? why not settle for being in the bottom 20% of furries by coolness - and still half the fucking loser you are posting shit on leftypol right now?
at a certain point you have to accept that "i'm a loser because i'm poor" is just cope. you can get a disproportionate amount of attention by ripping some 3d models and slamming them together pornographically in blender or SFM for the upfront cost of the device you're using to make bad posts right now. at a certain point you have to turn materialist analysis on your own circumstances for the purpose of improving them rather than as excuses for your own failure to do what is manifestly possible because you think you're too good for it or because coming up with excuses for continuing to wallow in self pity is more rewarding than trying something new.
i do not really believe this will help you. i am not telling you to "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" or whatever cliche you'll trot out in response. i am simply writing a litany against my own past mistakes.

>>2937273
Sounds like a problem easily solvable with more immigration.

>the west CANNOT survive
good


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