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The Sino-Soviet split was the gradual worsening of relations between the People’s Republic of China and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) during the Cold War. This was primarily caused by divergences that arose from their different interpretations and practical applications of Marxism–Leninism, as influenced by their respective geopolitics during the Cold War of 1947–1991.[1] In the late 1950s and early 1960s, Sino-Soviet debates about the interpretation of orthodox Marxism became specific disputes about the Soviet Union's policies of national de-Stalinization and international peaceful coexistence with the Western Bloc, which Chinese leader Mao Zedong decried as revisionism. Against that ideological background, China took a belligerent stance towards the Western world, and publicly rejected the Soviet Union's policy of peaceful coexistence between the Western Bloc and Eastern Bloc.[1] In addition, China resented the Soviet Union's growing ties with India due to factors such as the Sino-Indian border dispute, while the Soviet Union feared that Mao was unconcerned about the drastic consequences of nuclear warfare.[2]

In 1956, Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev denounced Joseph Stalin and Stalinism in the speech "On the Cult of Personality and Its Consequences" and began the de-Stalinization of the USSR. Mao and the Chinese leadership were appalled as the PRC and the USSR progressively diverged in their interpretations and applications of Leninist theory. By 1961, their intractable ideological differences provoked the PRC's formal denunciation of Soviet communism as the work of "revisionist traitors" in the USSR.[1] The PRC also declared the Soviet Union social imperialist.[3] The Soviet Union, in turn, criticized Mao Zedong and China's practices during the subsequent Cultural Revolution. For Eastern Bloc countries, the Sino-Soviet split was a question of who would lead the revolution for world communism, and to whom (China or the USSR) the vanguard parties of the world would turn for political advice, financial aid, and military assistance.[4] In that vein, both countries competed for the leadership of world communism through the revolutionary parties native to the countries in their spheres of influence.[5] The conflict culminated after the Zhenbao Island border incident in 1969, after which the Soviet Union reportedly considered the possibility of launching a large-scale nuclear strike against China, and the Chinese leadership, including Mao, was evacuated from Beijing, before both sides eventually returned to diplomatic negotiations.[6][7][8][9][10][11]

In the Western world, the Sino-Soviet split transformed the bi-polar cold war into a tri-polar cold war. The rivalry facilitated Mao's realization of Sino-American rapprochement with the US president Richard Nixon's visit to China in 1972. In the West, the policies of triangular diplomacy and linkage emerged.[12] Like the Tito–Stalin split, the occurrence of the Sino-Soviet split also weakened the concept of monolithic communism, the Western perception that the communist nations were ideologically, and therefore politically, united.[13][14] However, the USSR and China both continued to cooperate with North Vietnam during the Vietnam War into the 1970s, despite rivalry elsewhere.[15] Historically, the Sino-Soviet split facilitated the Marxist–Leninist Realpolitik with which Mao established the tri-polar geopolitics (PRC–USA–USSR) of the late-period Cold War (1956–1991) to create an anti-Soviet front, which Maoists connected to the Three Worlds Theory.[3] According to Lüthi, there is "no documentary evidence that the Chinese or the Soviets thought about their relationship within a triangular framework during the period."[16]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_split

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>mao: USSR le bad because ussr wants peace with west
<mao meets with nixon and allys with the US against the USSR
it was retarded and very imperial-esque, and counterproductive in everyway possible.

It was retarded

Something something mao and kruschev are retards

The only way to have prevented it was to merge the Chinese and Soviet States along with their communist parties, a full Eurasian superstate with over a billion people by the 1960s

it basically created modern chinese policy of being a fat lazy chud and not helping any socialist movement outside

>>2937398
^ retarded duginist go back

>>2937400
Dugin is stupid because he thinks Russia is already Eurasian, I don’t endorse Orthodox Christianity, Daoism, or Confucianism like he does, with China’s land and massive workforce Soviet stagnation under Brezhnev would not have happened

>>2937401
Stagnation was caused by the ussr redirecting most of its funding towards the millitary to prepare for war with west (which never happened of course) instead of productive forces, computing, space agency, or anything else. Also because after the ukrianian was couped nobody wanted to try any new major projects also causing stagnation, china is growing because its not lazy.

>>2937398
between the need for a new cultural revolution and harmonizing of the new union the resulting 'superpower' would have starved half of asia if not more
>>2937401
word, every single aspect of russia is asian of the steppe/horde variety only a complete retard buys into euroasiaticism

Reading through the letters sent between the USSR and China, I can't help but seeing the Chinese as petulant children.
Letters of back and forth of the USSR explaining over and over that it is still developing deterrence, is still funding international natlib movements against the colonial powers, is still dedicated to the defense pacts with the other socialist states, etc, and the Chinese respond: BLAH BLAH BLAH YOU WANT TO BECOME A LACKEY OF THE USA.
And of course China was the one that did that.

>>2937403
>most of its funding towards the millitary
<If the US does it, it's innovation
<if non-western country does it it's wasteful stagnation
You're only right about the last part.

>>2937444
For example the USSR will propose an international meeting of the world's Communist parties to debate this, and China will demand that it be postponed for years and years, then refuse because the party representing Australia wasn't a China-aligned sect with 100 members.

>>2937446
it just happens that us is a sole global superpower and has limited credit because dollar is the universal currency which ussr never was
but don't let that little detail derail you

>>2937453
>has limited credit
*unlimited credit

>>2937453
>>2937454
Not a point I was making. Rather, in the USSR, the military was one of the drivers of innovation because unlike capitalist economies, traditional centrally planned economies did not distribute innovation efficiently. That's how Kupryanovitch could invent his own mobile phone, but not be able to mass produce it. China fixed this bottleneck.

>>2937463
my bad

Weaker countries ally with strong countries far away to deal with their close rivals.

>two capitalist states fought a bunch of decades ago
who gives a fuck, go binge spongebob or something, its a way better use of your limited time on earth than discussing this absolute nothingburger


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