/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

I guess this can also be used as a Haiti general thread if you guys are good with that

Do they still not have a president? Does anyone know if those colombians were DEA like they said they were?

>>2952908
this wikipedia article of yours forgets to name anything good the gangs have done

>>2952967
Name a good thing gangs have done in their lumpen revolution

>>2952992
Sounds like Ireland tbh

>Neocolonialism
Not one dollar has been moved yet from Haiti to El Salvador. It is more of an intervention.
And while authoritarian El Salvador is still a Bourgueois Democracy. Don't mix apples with oranges.

And finally Criminals who perform acts against society as the gangs of Haiti need not to be calmed down but shot. The problem is the ammount of people able to confront them. The bourg use them as rabid dogs to fight eachother, and when a lumpen leader takes command is the rabid dog gaining sentience, not that it helps much since it is still a rabid dog. What great communist org has risen up in that struggle? None. It is a tragedy that it has come to this, and that it had to become the personal project of Bukele to clean it. One can see the Napoleonic dreams exudating of him. But as always, one can't be sure that the economy of such a nation would allow a occupation to be mantained.

Lumpen gangs vs frail foreign expedition
Whom shall you support ?
20 gang members dead by the rocket attack. And there is some letter atributted by a gang leader to the UN to request a ceasefire (lmao)
<Video. Where does the leader of 400 Mazowo hides?

>>2952967
>this wikipedia article of yours forgets to name anything good the gangs have done
serve as a cassus belli for your "tough on crime" bourgeois dictators to do neocolonialism, which I can only assume you love, since you bothered to say "NAME A GOOD THING THE GANGS HAVE DONE" as if that was a goalpost anyone was interested in kicking balls at

Oh boy I can't wait to hear how racist y'all are about to get about Haiti this time.

>>2952908
>Haiti is currently being colonized by El Salvador
This is incorrect. Haiti has been and still is subjugated by US and French imperialism. El Salvador is being levied as a colonial administrator by said imperialism to carry out this subjugation in a neo-colonial (as opposed to colonial or semi-colonial) way. El Salvador doesn't itself represent any more of an independent imperialist force than Kenya.

>it's a foregin dictatorship attempting to defeat the lumpenproletariat who have gained dual power through the gang coaltion called Viv Ansanm
This is an incorrect conflation of lumpen organizations with "dual power". Dual power necessarily implies a gestating new government which eventually reaches a point of taking state power. The gangs of Port au Prince aren't particularly interested in taking state power, and instead represent localized warlordism within the region which operates in a wider national context of various private entities (companies and individuals like Gilbert Bigio) operating quasi-fiefdoms in the other cities and countryside. The only really notable thing about the gangs of Port au Prince is that at present their ability to operate with impunity in the capital is a huge embarrassment to the Haitian puppet regime, which hasn't been able to muster any real opposition to them and (like the gangs) hold no real power outside of Port au Prince. The only bigger joke than Viv Ansanm being a "revolutionary" force is the Haitian "government" itself.

If any of you are expecting a revolution out of the gangs, you're gonna be disappointed. There's no principles behind the opportunist nationalist rhetoric of specific individuals within them, and the national reality is that controlling Haiti's capital is essentially meaningless with regards to taking overall control of the nation. Haiti is splintered and will need to be reunified in a way that can only be done either through a national liberation war or the direct colonization and administration of the country by an imperialist power — namely the US — in a colonial rather than neo-colonial way. Obviously the former is what will actually be good for the people of Haiti. The only veiled blessing of the current situation is that the Dominican Republic is straight-up too racist to stomach trying to absorb Haiti, and so the absolute end of Haitian independence isn't in the cards at present.

>>2953027
The other thing that really gets me about how the whole “Haitian crisis” gets framed is the gangster warlordism is basically only in Port Au Prince, the rural parts of the country and smaller cities like Les Cayes are more or less operating fine for the standards of the country, which shows how hollow the governance the supposedly Colombian DEA guys overthrew really was.

>>2953027
I'm Ayiti #1 fan doe

Only leftard orientalist third worldists like OP are racist here.