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This thread is for discussion of the 2021 Peruvian Election. Looks like it's keeps beign a close one, and either one could win this. The Peruvian Left has gone far, however, and has united under a pretty based candidate. Let's watch
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New update:
Pedrito - 49.922%
Keiko - 50.078%
91.697% of Votes counted
50.9% of remaining vote needed.
I can't do any more graphs, but someone can continue plotting results from the data in the last thread. Here's mine:
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/9zyfv3lwzy>>16507Poor taste, nut in this instead.
>>16537Who cares? Keiko's father mass sterilized indigenous people and ordered his men to gang rape and perform dr Mengele tier human medical experimentation on Communists.
Stop freaking out about a tiny, mostly bourgeois anomaly in the population. If there are any prole transhumanists in Peru the only difference is they'll get paid decent & probably be able to get basic fucking healthcare. Their lives can only get better as a result of Castillo winning, and this is a good thing.
jucheJuche >>16642Wouldn't that immensely empower the shining path?
Also with the other Latin American elections coming up that'd be a huge boost for leftist parties.
>>16649More probable is that I would win the lottery that the sectarians would get some power again.
>>16659Yeah, the page seems ok to me
>>16669YEEEESSS
which country is that?
>>16673He doesn't consider himself a Marxist.
Although he's a sindicalist.
>>16681The party is marxist. Marxist to the bone unlike the other socdem left.
That's why the media pushed to leave the party and mantain the candidate,as weirdly it sounds.
>>16695…
MRTA is dead a long time ago man.
Even the leader published a memoir (prologued by Pepe Mujica) where he calls that now is not the time for revolutionary violence.
>>16694Damn lol
>>16695They died in 97 lmao
They were far less autistic though, more willing to make connections in the cities with union leaders and the like, and actually did "effective" guerilla shit like holding embassy people hostage (still not terribly effective) as compared to bombing what is essentially the streets of the "market district" (as if rich people just walk around the streets, and don't live either up in their penthouses or far away from the city due to classism, pollution, etc.) which more or less just got innocent people killed or injured
>>16701I mean
The Shining Path tried (and failed) to mechanically wage a PPW in a country where only about 30% of the people lived in "the countryside" (not all peasants), because they wanted to LARP as the Chinese movement, or other Asian PPWs that occurred in countries where you had crazy figures like 80 or 90 percent of the population being peasants
>>16704Hum, I have read that the embassy aproached some guys in Castillo team to talk it down.
I know that the mechanics of the inner beast and the rivaries between organs of it (like State Department and the CIA exist) but I don't think the Biden and his Bidenites would want someone so polarizing as Keiko in power…
>>16713Will say that the PCP being active in VRAEM as well as MOVADEF doing stupid, unpopular campaigns like "FREE GONZALO" only serves as free ammo to demonize anyone who's not a very mild social democrat
PCP already has a pretty bad history and rep in Peru, even among the poor, their descendants and adjacent groups doing dumb shit like more or less just being a cartel with red paint that kills soldiers or civvies every now and then makes people more tired than anything, a proverbial thorn in their side that never goes away and enables borderline economic right-wing fascists to exist to "keep the commies at bay"
>>16740Down from 70 horses to 50, I guess I must be growing on you
Anyways, my fear is that if Castillo wins, the Fujimorists are just gonna cite unspecified "irregularities" and have Keiko win anyway
>>16758>>16758It shows there's no one eligible to vote.
I think they voted through another method, perhaps?
>>16764Leftists don't exist in the USA since quality of life is so high>>302188
Cope bitch
porkyPorky >>16770Listen, faggot, if votes from other European countries already counted their votes, what makes you think there are voting records there?
There are 0.
>>16776Keep coping this is democracy at work
>>16777Burgers still havent voted
porkyPorky >>16770>USA>quality of life is so highstahp baiting
Chile has higher quality of life than the US and +2 years of life expectancy (80.7 Chile, 78.5 US)
>>16779The thing about -actas- is that they have different number of votes per acta
An acta can have like a couple hundred votes or 50 votes
>>16798Check'd x2
Chuckled x2
>>16889JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
Pobrecillos
A ver si shipean a Kyara con el pequeño Danton jajajaja
>>16923We have around 2 million gusanos.
Let's shave off 20% of non eligible people.
After that let's say participation rate is around 40%.
We have 650k votes.
Let's say Keiko wins them 70/30.
We have that Keiko gains around 250k votes advantage.
If the turnout is 35% the advantage shrinks to 224k.
If the turnout is 30% the advantage shrinks to 192k.
sandinistaSandinista If we go by
https://www.resultadossep.eleccionesgenerales2021.pe/SEP2021/EleccionesPresidenciales/RePres/E21.424 % of the foreign votes have been counted which amount to 75,808, of those 44,388 (63.180%) went for KEKno ; if we extrapolate, at the end of the overseas count, she will get ~207000 from the gusanos abroad which means that Castillo should secure a lead of at least 300000 votes when Peru is done being counted to keep his lead eaten away by the foreign vote.
>>16827FUJIMORI ABOUT TO HIDE HERSELF INTO THE CUCKBOX
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
international_brigadeInternational Brigade >>16958If the total votes are 75,808/0,214=354,243
and Keiko wins 70% she wins 247,971 votes
against 106 000 votes for Pedro.
Her final advantage would be 140k votes.
sandinistaSandinista >>16969Same goes for Keiko, with the difference that a good deal of her support is not currently in Peru.
Let's see how this ends.
sandinistaSandinista >>16975You are the one that misread the numbers the 75,808 figure is the turnout of the vote that has been counted as of now, this is only ~23% of the total of abroad votes that have been cast. As the site says "Estos datos corresponden a las actas
contabilizadas"
>>16980FROM THE OFFICIAL PERU ELECTION SITEThe count i made in
>>16967 still stands.
Pedro needs a 150k votes lead in Peru to withstand the gusano wave.
sandinistaSandinista >>16984does that imply that for the peru tab, there are 5.5 million votes to be counted?
23,307,054
Electores Hábiles
17,865,346
Participación Ciudadana
76.652 %
(%) Participación Ciudadana
97.281 %
Actas Procesadas
>>16986Yeah, in Peru he has, as of now, a lead of 57k votes, he needs to multiply this lead by at
minimum 4 (that is ~250k votes) to stand a chance against the gusanos.
https://gking.harvard.edu/files/abs/ballots-abs.shtmlUNITED STATES OF AMERICAN SCHIZOPHRENIA
IN THE YEAR OF NOT MY LORD 2000
>>16951While VOOOTING doesn't help much, not every country is like the US where it change absolutely nothing.
For all it brokenness, most LatAm countries have healthy democracies with multipolar porkies trying to outpork each other.
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>>16989>>16996Basically, overseas ballots cost gore the election
>>169902.719%* 17.865.054=?
This is the number of votes that still need to be counted
IN PERU.
>>16993oh I see
so it's like Engels maybe
transhumanismTranshumanism >>17008>2.719%* 17.865.054= 485.751
nearly 500k votes in peru left, mostly from isolated, rural areas. THAT MEANS HE CAN STILL MAKE IT
>>17006See
>>16993Max Blumenthal is literally the son of Sidney Blumenthal and the brother of Paul Blumenthal, and the whole family is part of the political dynasty which is has relatives such as Richard Blumenthal, who is one of the wealthiest senators in the government currently. Max himself however couldn't be more opposed to his families politics though.
>>17011<4.15% in PeruThis means there are 732 400 votes left to count.
If Pedro wins them 60/40 he gains another 146000 votes of lead, to sum to the 50000 lead he already has.
That would mean a near 200000 lead and a serious shot at victory after the gusano votes.
If Pedro wins them 65/35 the total lead would shot up to over 250000 and it would be done.
It's not impossible, we gotta pray
sandinistaSandinista >>17015But then again, I think the official site says the % left to be count are -actas- and not votes, I think I was fooled again
>>17017yeah I just realized it, math is too confusing for me
>>17035That's because the main voters are the officials, the capitalists bureau-rats, later they count the popular vote.
That's why every new socialist president needs to clean embassies, consular missions, and so on, and so on. Still careerists fill the gaps, doing the same or worst damage.
>>16971Nah, first image was parody calling Castillo anti-feminist
No idea what the second one means though
sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso >>17080AYACUCHO IN THE HOUSE
>On February 15, 1825, Simón Bolívar changed the city's name to Ayacucho, renaming it after the historical Battle of Ayacucho. Upon seeing so many casualties on the battlefield, citizens called the area Ayakuchu, aya meaning "dead" and kuchu meaning "corner" in Ayacucho Quechua. […] The independent victory sealed the independence of Peru and South America. La Paz, now the seat of government of Bolivia, was similarly renamed La Paz de Ayacucho following this battle.[…]
>In 1974, Chávez and around one dozen fellow cadets and soldiers—all youths—traveled to Ayacucho, Peru to celebrate the 150th anniversary of the eponymous Battle of Ayacucho. There, they were personally greeted by radical leftist Juan Velasco Alvarado, the President of Peru between 1968 and 1975. Velasco gave each of them a miniature pocket edition of La Revolución Nacional Peruana ("The Peruvian National Revolution"). >>17114Three spaghettis.
>>17117La tuya, por si acaso.
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>In 1974, Chávez and around one dozen fellow cadets and soldiersDamn.
>>16711The US literally allowed Pinochet to be in power.
And Reagan tried to persuade Thatcher not to invade his buddies in Argentina.
>>17105You see, Lima is filled by Venezuelan expats there, creating a toxic ambiance, poisoning their population, and the politicians have used Llosa, Pastrana, the grupo de Lima, and other liberals, neoliberals, rightoids figures to unite against Castillo. They are all doing the best they can to subvert the petite bourgeoisie and middle class in Peru. They are already poisoned, and they will sabotage Peru's economy, so Castillo will have it very difficult.
>U.S. That's another monster, with their imperialism and exceptionalism, they have become something very weird.
>>17126I didn't know a young Hugo Chavez traveled to Peru. Ah, lmao, the rightoids accusing las brisas bolivarianas castrochavistas and we have all the right to say that Peru was all along meddling in Venezuela ideologically training Chavez LMAO
Rightoids and their eternal cope of being wrong.
>>17151Unless you want to use retarded terms like auto-genocide, or claim that any country that's ever had campaigns like this has commit genocide on their own people somehow, then sure, it is "literally" genocide in the most reductive sense possible lmao
Race relations aren't like they are in the US, Peru is rather multicultural and is generally thought to have had rather decent race relations when compared to their neighbors, it's also pretty diverse. You can argue the definitions all you want, but it is silly to equate a sterilization campaign for population control to combat poverty to a premeditated, systematic erasure of said ethnic groups.
>>17151Not all indigenous people were sterilized you tard, they were the largest target because they've historically been the most subject to living in feudal conditions for the past 500 odd years (along with African imports), it's amazing how little you know of the country you're speaking of in that you believe that ethnicity is in any way tied to nationality in Peru lmao, it's not like Bolivia where there are the clearly European porkies and then the 2/3rds of indigenous peasants
By the 70s/80s less than 1/3rd of the population lived in the countryside, there was a large exodus due to the armed conflict
>>17162>>17163
> there is a scale of severity to what a "genocide" A scale of severity that has been immense considering that over 300 000 people have been directly affected and many more by extension, lmao.
Are you even aware that there are recognized genocides that involved way fewer people?
>17 year, 364 day old person voluntarily fucks someone who is freshly 18Lmao, weird age of consent strawmen out of nowhere. Genocide apologist who unironically thinks that a mass forced sterilization campaign that specifically targeted a certain ethnic minority does not constitute genocide (it does) is also obsessed by age of consent debate and probably a fucking pedo right-winger. Not surprised at all.
>>17164Your point being?
You couldn't name a specific ethnicity from Peru to save your life yt bitch, there was not specific targeting beyond that of class, you will never do anything of worth in your worthless 1st world life lmao
>>17164Also
<not a strawman, that's an analogyGet your 16 year old ass off the internet burger fuck, there's a reason why no one likes your kind
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