No.507673[Last 50 Posts]
Let's mantain the civil discussion we were having in the last thread.
Last thread got full.
FULL SIZZLEGANG FOR THE WIN
VLADOLF PUTLER MOMENT
>Russian foreign Ministry comments on response: it is inappropriate to demand to withdraw troops from certain regions of Russia. Russia demands Ukraine implements Minsk agreements, the West should stop weapons delivery to Ukraine, withdraw what was delivered already, recall all instructors and advisors from Ukraine, prohibition of NATO joint exercises with Ukraine. Russia demands all U.S. troops and weapons withdrawal from Central and Eastern Europe, Baltic countries. Russia expects proposals on non-expansion of NATO. Russia highlights that questions on arms control cannot be considered separately from other points
So, these are the points for descalation:
1:Ukraine implements Minsk agreement.
2:The weapons deliveries towards Ukraine from NATO need to stop.
3:Withdraw what was already delivered to Ukraine.
4:Withdraw all NATO instructos and advisors from Ukraine.
5:Prohibit the cooperation of Ukraine in NATO joint exercises.
6:The total withdrawal of all US troops and weapons from Central and Eastern Europe (This is, Poland, The Baltic States, Slovakia, Romania, and probably even Germany and the Czech Republic
Do you think the US NATO will accept these 6 points?
I'm gonna post my opinion about the russian matter in here as well, it's my post, you can't do nothing about it:
Russia has tried to join NATO, twice.
No real reason for NATO to actually not accept, you would literally have world domination, aside from China.
This is because of a very simple reason, NATO wants to balkanize Russia. The very existence of Russia is a menace to NATO, and I don't mean this because they're "scared" of russian people, but how much territory they occupy.
Russia is the major country that will get a benefit from climate change, it's a country with a lot of natural resources because it literally owns about 1/8 of the planet or so.
It's the literal counterpart of the US, and the US wants it destroyes so it can truly be the world dominator without having no one to actually stand to them. Also Russia has lotsa nukes.
Not saying tho that Russia is an anti-imperialist nation, it is a capitalist nation and capitalism itself enables imperialism, it's a feature, not a dlc. But the thing is that NATO is searching for Russia is to be completely destroyed and balkanized in 5 states or more.
Also the Rimland theory is more important (at least that'd what NATO officials believe) than what you think.
So in thic conflict I support Russia for these reasons.
>Russia is actively defending itself against an outside invader that wants to mutilate it out of paranoia.
>Ukraine isn't worth a damn supporting, they have incorporated in their army neo-nazi paramilitaries.
>Ukraine is also a shithole that would be better under russian control… Probably (not that hard of a test tbh, being better than a comprador regime for NATO isn't that hard).
>More power to Russia means less power to the US, which will make it more aggressive. Supporting Russia is literally accelerationism to ww3, but accelerationism nonetheless, and no, I don't want ww3, I don't like to happen, but one thing is to not like war and the other is to delude oneself into believing that it will not happen, it will happen because it's the natural course of capitalism. This is more asking for a swift death than a prolonged, painful suffering under late stage capitalism.
>Seriously, fuck the Ukrainian goverment.
>In fact, fuck ALL nato states, including mine.
Despite this, I recognize that:
>Russia is a capitalist country. Thus means that it is imperialist because imperialism is the capitalist drive for profit natural course of action, read imperialism, the last stage of capitalism. Every capitalist country will become either imperialist, or imperialized, and Russia clearly isn't being imperialized as, say, Togo is.
>Russia is ruled by a capitalist class, the same class that killed the Soviet Union and thus killed AES.
>The russian state is actively smearing the soviet union, by example making the gulag archipelago a required reading in schools, meanwhile putting into a shrine a fake version of Stalin, deluding themselves into thinking he was a fascistic strong dictator instead of the antithesis of fascism which is why russian rightwingers love to say that they liked Stalin but hate Lenin, despite the former being literally a disciple and rightful succesor to Lenin's theories and politics.
Btw this also applies to China.
No.507674
first for bad OP
No.507675
>>507673no one reads this shit. but thanks for making the thread
No.507676
first for rampant paranoid speculation
No.507680
What's the latest happening? I heard civilians in the breakaway regions are being evaluated to Russia as Ukrainian neonazi terrorists descend upon the local population
No.507682
>>507677Get out of here soyberg
No.507683
Only a bunch of petty-booj NEETs who have nothing good to spend their free-time with would make 11 ducking threads in a row about the same topic where nothing has actually happened.
No.507685
>>507684That or Ukraine is lying
No.507686
>>507684Ukrops are a bunch of cucks. Even when I was a lib and supported Ukraine I wondered why they never put up a fight against the occupation of the Crimea. And now they can't even take out some rebels.
They deserve to get rolled.
No.507687
>>507684We are talking about a state that his interior minister says one day that no intel shows Russia would invade Ukraine and the next day his head of state says OMGSH RUSSHIA INVADING US.
What do you think?
No.507688
>>507684If Russia is actually evacuating Donetsk/Luhansk and paying for food and shelter of refugees, that seems like a lot of effort for a false flag
some evacuation images:
>>754545>>754527>>754456 No.507690
>>507688*unless it is actually Russia invading, in which case we will find out very soon
No.507693
HOLY SHIT, MY BABUSHKA JUST TRIPPED DOWN SOME STAIRS THAT PUTIN PUT IN OUR HOUSE
#falseflag
No.507694
>>507689Lol. +1
>>507692more nothingburgers
No.507695
>>507693Another victim of Vladolf Putler's hologenocidomor against Ukraine.
He probably ate her lard as well.
No.507697
PUTLER!!!!!! shakes fist
No.507698
>>754621
vladoflf pugler?!?!?!
No.507699
So how are you guys saying Putler? Pyootler or Puttler?
I'm #TeamPyootler
No.507700
>>507692https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlashNot happening right now, but you can get in and participate in the chat while waiting
No.507702
>>507699Tbh I would say Puttler.
#TeamPuttler
No.507703
>>507699I say it with a fake accent so I can larp as a liberator of Donetsk
No.507711
>>754654
Listen up Jack, I don't like the thing what's going on in Kosovo.
No.507714
>>507707Freeza, since you're here, could you provide sauce for: >>754392
No.507715
>>507706Thanks US State Department for this crucial confirmation.
No.507717
>>507715Based satanic trips of truth
No.507719
>>507673>>754544Your government is full of U.S. military bases and thousands of U.S. soldiers. Even if some faction in Germany had the balls to commit to their words, they would be coup'ed in no time.
I warned all of you, this is a win for the U.S., and nothingburgeres ignoring all these things happening were very idiotic.
This is a personal vendetta of the U.S. for Syria, for helping to evade sanctions to other nations, for the oil/gas influence in Europe, etc.
Video of the car explosion aftermath.
No.507721
>>507719All I'm seeing in the future is Ukrainians being dirt poor and a load of frozen German grannies tbqh
No.507723
>>754680
They have Russian passports, they were free to leave at any time I think
No.507724
>>754685
No shit that's why they stayed there until they were evacced
No.507725
>>507683Stop projecting. I work from home, thus I can render and design while spend time here.
>nothing>tons of weapons to Ukraine is nothing>capitalists running out of Ukraine is nothing>threats to stop NS-II, and forcing Germans to cancel the project is nothing.>azov battlion being integrated into the militarary state is nothing.and more recently
>hundreds of civilians starting to evacuate DR to Russia is nothing.Nothingburgerers, are you implying that you shouldn't be marching in a peace march in your country because nothing is happening?
No.507726
>>754680
Maybe they wanted to stay and defend their home, their community? If I was in Donezk or Luhansk I would stay and fight those Ukrainian fascists
No.507727
>>507726No, Putler is brainwashing them to fight the Ukrop liberators
No.507728
HOLY SHIT TURN ON CNN VLADOLF PUTLER HAS JUST ANNEXED HYPERBOREA
No.507731
Ukraine was really calm all that time and saying war is not happening, it was NATO crying about Russian invasion. So why would they change that when Russian started to withdraw some troops? All that escalation is either NATO or separatists provocation. NATO, obviously, they've been beating the drums of war for a long time already. Separatists, cause that shit with evacuation looks like Kremlin had no idea wtf is going on.
No.507733
>>754680
evacuating them is only useful as a pretext for something
No.507734
>>507729>Liberals go to munich to defend an Fascist state so they go east.wow, where i have seen this happen before.
No.507735
>>507731The separatists (if you can even call them that) want the war cause they know Russia conquering Ukraine would be a net benefit for them because, you know, not being in a constant war state helps.
No.507736
>>754680
because there was this little thingy called minsk accords in which they would solve probably the things peacefully. Russia initially wasn't part of it, now they are, and the agreements says one thing, but the bloodthirsty military industrial complex can't has it stock market as low as it was after Afghanistan.
No.507740
>>507737Except you see the videos of the evacuation and you don't see people angry or protesting or swearing. Retard take.
>>507733Hi, CIA-tard. Getting the memo earlier this day?
No.507741
>>507733t. evil piece of shit who thinks civilians only exist to serve a purpose, like arming them so they can get shot on live TV
glow more
No.507743
>>754730
Of course they aren't winning the propaganda war! they don't have near the capacity to be the loudest in this media shouting match.
No.507745
>>754730
>pipeline
Saying the quiet part out loud glowoid.
No.507746
>>754730
More like Germans staying cucked to the U.S. paying expensive energy, while the "liberals" coexist with nazis all over again, until gets out of control and you see red troops marching all over again their beloved sacred streets.
No.507747
>>754730
I can't believe the Russians are losing the war for the decrepit minds of Westoids!! Noooooo!!!
No.507749
>>507741t. dude who's totally ok that Putin left them to get shot by Azov for 7 years
No.507750
NATOids are coping and seething. They are losing the intelligence war. They will not sell their shitty shale oil to Germany. They will not invite Ukraine into NATO and they will stay cucked.
No.507751
>>507749Putin not invading le bad, Putin invading now (allegedly) also le bad
No.507752
>>507749You'll have to find another war to start, another country to shart on. Your MIC will continue to be blueballed while Putin continues to fuck with you and never invade Ukraine.
kek imagine if he just keeps doing this and sharts keep screaming "two more days" forever while the Germs freeze to death
No.507754
>>507750This. West believes their own farts, so we will see some absolutely retarded shit soon. I won't be surprised if Russia somehow pulls of a blitzkrieg and steals all the weapons US and allies provided to Ukraine without a fight
No.507757
>>507749lol
And is Putin fault the 9/11.
>>507750Now this's the shitposting I am into.
No.507759
>>507749Couldn't evacuate until the separatists actually won, and then it wasn't that bad afterwards. It sounds like even now they'd rather live there than live like state-sponsored refugees.
No.507761
>>507755Gravel institute keeps getting more based I see.
No.507762
>>507751putin not imperializing ukraine le good. putin liberating donbass le good
No.507763
>>507760Luka is so mad-lad.
Well, they were the republic that less-wanted to dissolve from the USSR.
No.507764
>>507757>And is Putin fault the 9/11.Ivan, how many times did I tell you not to use google translate?
No.507765
>>507749What the fuck is wrong with him?
No.507766
>>507765He's like Hitler… but very slow at invading. That's why I have come up with a new name for him: Putler.
No.507767
>>507766My bad, my post
>>507765 was meant for the Lukashenko colonel video.
No.507769
>Kiev could convene a meeting of the Trilateral Contact Group for this Saturday, showing readiness to do everything necessary to restore the ceasefire, reports RIA Novosti citing the Ukrainian deputy prime minister
So indeed there was an increase of violence from the Ukrainian side, lmao. These people I swear, are imitating too good the U.S. it is almost impossible to distinguish the U.S. from the Ukrainians at this point.
No.507770
>>507767Belarus is Russia closest ally, protectorate state tbh. Should Ukraine has vanished, Lukashenko shall become Belarus governor under Russia rule, & not just given colonel rank.
Also the founders of the Kievan Rus were the first Tsars of Russia, hence forth Ukraine is a fake country made by Poland and the Germans to create a false sense of identity.
No.507771
>>507769How did you get that
>there was an increase of violence from the Ukrainian sidefrom that
>showing readiness to do everything necessary to restore the ceasefire?
No.507772
>>507706>cynical to evacute peopleNo they should've stayed and thrown into the fascist meat grinder that is the western military
No.507775
>>507771Read the note, "restore the ceasefire" comes last, "there was" an increase comes first. It is indeed a response to the escalation.
Tho, that won't matter, the Ukrainian side has pushed the snowball to roll, if they have asked civilians to leave the zone is because they are going to war. It is a matter of whether Russia will go alongside or will shell from distance with surgical precision. I think the second is the to-go option for Russians.
>>507773And of course they will claim the opposite lmao.
No.507778
>>507775>Ukrainian side has pushed the snowball to roll, if they have asked civilians to leave the zone is because they are going to warBut it's Ukrainian rebels who asked for evacuation, not Ukrainian governement.
No.507779
>>507778>>507778>if they have asked civilians
>But it's Ukrainian rebels who asked for evacuationIt is obvious, but let me clarify, that I was talking about Lugansk/Donetsk republics leader here.
No.507780
>>507779Sorry anon, I was confused.
No.507781
>>507773So, they will bomb the fuck out of the buses with missiles and say that the Russian did it, that they were planted regardless of looking like the explosions came from the sky and from ukraine.
Putin pls invade Ukraine.
No.507784
>>507783>minor nationalist problemCoronavirus do it again
No.507786
>>507783When I tell people that I don't want Russia to invade but I don't think Putin is evil I get two kinds of responses:
>WHY, UKRAINE IS NATION OF NAZIS THEY WANT TO GENOCIDE RUSSIANS IN BOMBAS>WHAT DO YOU MEAN, PUTIN IS NEW HITLER HE WANTS TO REBUILD SOVIET EMPIRE No.507788
>>507787Couldn't this just mean the evacuation started a few days ago?
No.507790
>>507787Baby, you can fake metadata in the files. Is a simple as editing that exact section in which he's showing that information.
No.507791
>>507787I mean, shit was starting to look dire around the 14, makes kinda sense they would plan it.
No.507792
>>507790 (me)
Also, one must ask him from where he got the video with metadata because all social media erases the metadata when you download the videos on it, for privacy reasons, of course.
Even l/pol/ I think erases metadata.
No.507793
here's the real question: does it really matter whose intelligence op the car bombing was? it seems to me that the actual justifications of either side don't really change much in either case. this is just that spark to set off the tinder box. it doesn't raise or lower the stakes at all.
No.507794
>>507788>>507791But he says in video "Today, the 18th of February"
It's more likely that metadata is fake than that it was recorded at 16th with genuine intentions.
No.507795
>>507792The video file is apparently directly from telegram.
No.507796
children being evacuated
https://nitter.snopyta.org/RealPepeEscobar/status/1494705250472796165#m>>507793Doesn't even seem like that big a deal to me, my understanding is that Minsk is violated more often than a Catholic altar boy
>>507794I see.
No.507797
Some more information:
>The localities attacked have been Kalinovka, Zhelobok, and Zolotoye-5.>Some 700,000 residents of the Donetsk People's Republic are planned to be evacuated, the local Foreign Ministry said.>Denis Pushilin and Leonid Pasechnik are the names of the leaders from the localities where it was asked to leave to Russia.Plus more videos of the evacuation.
NOTE THE ANGER NOOOO, WE DON'T WANT, NOTHING IS HABBENING, REEE (t.
>>507737 Oleksiy with an EU flag)
No.507799
what does the Ukrainian left think?
inb4 "there is no Ukrainian left"
No.507800
>>507787if they planned to do the bombing to trigger an evacuation ahead of time, why film this video several days in advance when you know that you really are going to evacuate anyways?
No.507801
>>507795There you go, Telegram does erase the metadata.
All of these:
>>507719 (me)
>>754545 (me)>>754527 (me)>>754456 (me)Are from TG, and they have altered metadata:
(This is one of the pictures)
No.507803
>>507799ukranian communistr party seems to oppose nato
https://www.kpu.life/ No.507804
>>507799Many were scared off by the NATO coup government
No.507805
>>507802I mean, if there's no civilians, you can't bomb drone their weddings.
No civilians = No bomb drone weddings =
NO FUN No.507806
>>507801Isn't Telegram literally built on being "Whatsapp but a lot more secure"?
Like, if Whatsapp probably does this, why not Telegram?
No.507807
>>507801I'm confused now. So these twatterfags faked the metadata? How can I test this?
No.507808
>>507806There was a reason why ISIS and other fuckers moved do Telegram at some point.
No.507809
>>507807send a video file to yourself over telegram. compare the metadata of the two files.
No.507810
>RUSSIA IS ABOUT TO INVADE
>YEP THEY'RE GOING TO INVADE RIGHHHHHT… NOW
>THE INVASION IS ABOUT TO START DON'T YOU WORRY
>ANNNNNNNY SECOND NOW
>WE'RE SERIOUS RUSSIA IS ACTUALLY ABOUT TO INVADE
>JUST GIVE IT A MINUTE…
>I SWEAR TO GOD THEY'RE LITERALLY GOING TO DO REAL SOON
No.507811
Russia will invade at -12 o' clock
No.507812
Russia will invade yesterday
No.507813
>>507807Ask your friend to install TG, ask him to send by default a picture of him taken by his phone to your TG. Check metadata.
Try it in instagram posts, facebook posts, whatsapp stories, profile pictures, signal profile pictures, etc.
Most likely yes, the Twitter account faked the metadata.
There are some settings in which you can ask your phone to send pictures with the metadata in some apps like whatsapp (I don't remember, I might be wrong here), but that's not the default.
No.507816
SIZZLE OR FIZZLE? : BIDEN'S SPEECH EDITION
As usual, you know the rules
0 for Biden's upcoming speech to make things fizzle
1 for Biden's speech to make them sizzle
No.507817
>>5078160.5 It will be the same bullcrap all over again.
It might even be the same video we saw some days ago repeated all over again.
No.507818
>>754871
>needs to be ousted
Not far from true tbh, sadly KPFR are his cucks
No.507820
>>507816Well, the thing is now the things are getting hotter. I think they will deflect the warnings as an excuse for the Russian counterpart to stage an invasion or something like that. Still not saying they will intervene in Ukraine, but threatening more than never the destruction of the NS-II.
>>507817kek, they might put joe sleeping and the result would be the same.
>>507812Oh no ukraine was invaded in December, but Putin sent us into a paralell dimension with nothingburgers while he conquered Ukraine and now we are seeing the real events unfold 😱
No.507822
>>507821>invasion arrowsi'm literally shaking rn
No.507824
>>507821>4 Jan, 2006>Alpine Republicwhat the fug is this
No.507825
>>507821what the fuck happened to switzerland lmao
No.507826
>>507820>Oh no ukraine was invaded in December, but Putin sent us into a paralell dimension with nothingburgers while he conquered Ukraine and now we are seeing the real events unfold 😱Putin already invaded last year and executed Zelensky and the government. They were then replaced with clones until the time is right for the Great Awakening when Biden will remove his extensive facial surgery to reveal he has been Trump all the time, working behind the scenes with Putin against Soros and Hillary Clinton. Trust the plan. Q.
No.507829
bladolb budler :DDDDDD
No.507831
>>507815lmao did you fuck with the hue on this to make them all look a bit more slavic?
No.507833
>>507830>They declared they would "evacuate" civilians from around Donbass, but they are peaceing out into Russia instead.It's rebels evacuating to Russia, Kiev tells them to stay at home and Zelensky is flying to Munich tomorrow to get sold by the West.
No.507835
>>507833Nope, the commander-in-chief of Ukrainian Armed Forces said they would evacuate some settlements around Donbass.
You didn't actually think "Ukraine is not planning any offensive operations" was genuine, did you?
No.507837
>>507832 (me)
>>507825>>507821One thousand hours in paint.
No.507838
Biden speech will be hosted on cytube
https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlash1 hour 20 minutes from now (he will probably be late tho)
No.507839
>>507835> "Ukraine is not planning any offensive operations" was genuine, did you?I actually do. It's NATO pushing them to war, Ukraine's got nothing to gain from fighting and neither do Russia.
No.507840
>>507835>some settlements around Donbass.Yep, seems complete escalation. Taking civilians out so they can take military possitions.
No.507841
>>507840No, he meant Donbass, the city, not Donbass the region.
No.507842
>>507841Wait, but how? lol, is that guy on drugs or something? How the Ukrainian forces would be deployed "around" the city if the place is controlled by the new republic armed forces?
No.507845
>>507843JFK didn't know that. lol, the political force is not in charge anymore in Ukraine? aw lawl. Then, more than ever those talks tomorrow are meaningless.
No.507846
>Putin made Donbass residents live like animals for years only to pull them out when its convenient
ngl no matter who you support you have to admit, this is a dastardly move of a dog
No.507847
>>507846They were free to move all that time since ceasefire. Lot of them moved to Russia, some to Ukraine.
No.507849
Eduard Basurin, leader of the Donbas Republic militias, in an interview in Соловьёв YT channel, commented they decided to evacuate people in the contact zone of Donbas with Ukraine, with the risk of sabotages and intervention.
The interview on the channel:
https://youtu.be/J1E2Jj7O508 (in Russian).
>>507846Like animals would be left them be in the hands of the Ukrainians who banned the Russian language at all levels and like in the clash of the Union building in Odessa, being killed freely.
No.507850
>>507846They live now like refugees because escalation might happen, they probably did not even need evacuation
No.507851
Fizzlegang gonna pull this one out
No.507852
good take
>Is Minsk alive or not? This is what Putin’s decisions depend on. Zelensky criticized the agreements yesterday, called them vapid. Lavrov reacted by saying that Ukrainian leaders are no longer hiding that they are not planning to implement Minsk. Today, hell broke loose.https://nitter.net/leonidragozin/status/1494766189486116868#m No.507855
>>507854They do same thing every year.
No.507857
>Krasniy Luch
Another district to get evacuated.
We have already Kalinovka, Zhelobok, and Zolotoye-5.
Mark those 4 points in a map to determine the extension of the evacuation.
No.507858
>>507853Wait, Ukrainian Army is actually moving in?
No.507859
>>507858The village is on LPR/DPR territory, so probably.
No.507860
>>507802US just goes mask off for the hundredth time in the past 70 years and all of media just nods their head 'yup mhm thas rite'
No.507862
Retarded faggots ITT confusing various factions and making it totally unreadable
No.507863
>>507853>Those idiots are actually doing itWtf?! Why would the Ukrainians attack the Donbass with the Russians on their border? Are they that confident of NATO support?
If I didn't know better, I'd say this is a false flag for Putin to gain a casus belli, and this is definitely how Western media is going to spin this.
Is this just Azov sperging out?
No.507865
>>507863>Is this just Azov sperging out?Most probably tbh.
No.507866
>>507863NATO said that they won't send troops to Ukraine in case of war, you'd have to be complete idiot to try to "liberate Donbas" while your supposed allies don't even want to commit to supporting you and your enemy's allies've got 150K troops at your borders due to conveniently timed excercises.
No.507867
>>507863>casus belliThis isn't hoi4 kill yourself
No.507868
>>507867>This isn't hoi4 kill yourselfThat simply means "reason for war" you uneducated pleb
No.507869
Wondering what comes next after this evacuation. My prediction: some militia skirmishes, more intense than usual, and no invasion of either side
No.507870
>>507867where do you think the game got the concept lol
No.507873
>>507871Don't ruin the meme
No.507874
when people finally get bored of the media hype:
>We did it Reddit, we scared away Putler!
No.507877
>>507875Poland in Russian propaganda is such a funny thing - eternal meddler, powerful spy agency capable of toppling foreign governements, sending mercenaries into warzones. While in reality Poland is pathetic country cucked by Vatican and catholicism crying cause EU won't give them money if they keep their "LGBT-free zones"
No.507878
<Lavrov - Blinken, to meet in Feb 23rd.
No.507879
Sleepy Joe is speaking about Ukraine in 10 minutes
https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlash No.507880
This is still an absolute Nothingburger, because Putin knows that any Invasion of Ukraine will result in Russia loosing all of its Oil/Gas exports to the EU and Russian Banks being cut off SWIFT, thus destroying all the stolen wealth of himself and his Oligarchs (this is why Inter-Imperialist rivalries will never cause World War 3 in the 21st century, because Putinist Russia and Dengist China are too integrated into the same Supply chains as the U$ and EU). Honestly, I really don’t get why the ethnic Russians in the Separatist-controlled areas are ethnically cleansing themselves with these unnecessary evacuations, LOL.
No.507881
>>507880Russia has the money to survive the gas being shut off and when it comes to cutting them out of SWIFT all I can say is do it fgt
No.507882
>>507878Anytime a meeting is scheduled the somethingburger gets pulled into the void of nothingburgerness.
No.507883
>>507882This. It’s quite funny that when you see pictures of Blinken and Lavrov meeting they look like best friends telling jokes to each other while the gullible citizens of both countries believe their is a serious “Conflict” between them, LOL.
No.507884
>>507880>all of its Oil/Gas exports to the EU and Russian Banks being cut off SWIFTIs not like there is no other people who can buy it , also, SWIFT? lol, it's not like Russia has created its own system already.
No.507885
>>507882Well, I am not into theories, but the anon who posted that the this situation reminds him of the Sleepers book, about how the politicians were sleep-walking into the war, this is sounding closely to this, thanks with the playing of the azov, capable of doing shit out of control.
No.507886
HOLY SHIT, I JUST FLEW OVER YOUR HOUSE
No.507887
>>755001
Only if you livestream yours if it ends up being a nothingburger
No.507889
>>507888>what is the petrodollar>implying the commodity market hasn't pulled down the dollar to up to 73% rn.We are not in the '99s where that would be around 94%.
No.507890
>>507886check 'em.
Didn't see you.
Next time fly over Donbas :3
No.507891
>>507828hahahahaha
>>754730>They will not get their pipelineI want the pipeline. Otherwise food will get super expensive for me. Russia doesn't need Europe to buy its gas. China will keep on increasing its buying of gas at an even higher rate.
>>507760Gad damn, what a chad.
No.507893
>>507828Ok that's pretty funny.
No.507895
>>507891>Russia doesn't need Europe to buy its gas.Wew, it's literally their entire economy
No.507896
>>507894The only good yankee
No.507898
>>507895The problem is that they have already multiple buyers. Africa needs it, Asia needs it.
No.507899
>>507889It isn't just about value of the dollar, it's that the US enforces the dollar as the only thing you can buy anything in, especially oil. USD is the global reserve currency. I do think China will change that and Russia is already using yuan/rubles to trade with them. Cutting them off swift would actually be good for the China/Russia sphere in some ways, especially in long run.
No.507900
>>507898If they could get as good a price from elsewhere they would already be selling it to them
No.507901
who when where
No.507903
>>507901>WhoMe
>WhenNow
>WhereYour Anus
No.507904
<Joint Centre of Control and Coordination
>Ukrainian military has launched mortar attacks to Lugansk (two)
>Authorities in Donbass said it landed in Gorlovka
<uuuuhhhhh nothingburger bros….
No.507905
>>507900>>507895You're right.
>Russian exports in the first ten months of 2021 totaled $388.4 billion, an increase of 42.8% over the same period last year>China (trade turnover of US$112.4 billion) So they would essentially lose around 2/3 of their exports.
BUT, this would only be a temporary setback, assuming Russia doesn't collapse. Since high gas prices will increase the pressure to ship industry to China. I guess it's a double suicide if they shut off gas.
No.507908
>>507900That implies Africa and Asia can't buy it? it is not like t is expensive, it means they don't have the money to invest to increase the exports (Europe/Germany paid for the NS-II, for example) of Russia, but if that valve is close to E.U. they can take it.
No.507909
>>755039
Amerifats you are cringe.
You are cringe.
Your economy is cringe.
Your army is cringe.
You will do Cringe.
You will lose Subcriber.
No.507911
>>755001
Why can’t you admit that Putin is a pussy who won’t do anything because the Russian economy would completely collapse due to sanctions and he would end up falling out of a window or hanging from a lamppost? Honestly, I’d be glad to be wrong as their would finally be something really entertaining to watch on CNN (the Vlasovites and Banderites killing each other), LOL.
No.507913
>>507907Part of the importance of the NS2. Ukraine takes a cut of the revenue of the current Russia-Germany pipeline, which is also at risk of sabotage
No.507914
>>507912>White and crackers are not used to represent the awfulness of the yanksKinda telling
No.507915
>>755059
you know ukraine woman gets sold off to the US because Ukranoids are just a bunch of nikados right ?
No.507916
Gas pipeline in the LPR was just blown up
No.507918
>>507916Cutting southern Ukraine from Russian gas, it was done by someone smart.
No.507919
>>507914>what are the mongrel and el monstruo.>>507916>>507907Aw lawl, if that's the German-Russia pipeline, this will be awesome.
No.507920
>>507919It's Russia-Odessa one.
No.507921
>NEW: U.S. says kicking Russia out of SWIFT financial messaging system will "probably not" be in any package of sanctions levelled if Russia invades Ukraine. Washington hints it would be unlikely to get EU support and would have too many "spillover effects"https://nitter.net/JakeCordell/status/1494771937519804416#m>>507911They won't kill SWIFT for Russia. Putin has tons of leverage here. He doesn't need to invade, only implicitly threaten it.
No.507922
>>507920Does the German-Russian pass through Donbas? I haven't thought of this but now.
No.507924
Ok, since shit is going to hit the fan, do you guys think this is gonna be just regional (Donbas), country-wide, or will it escalate to something even more?
>>507894nothingburberinos btfo
>>755001I'd rather live to see the end of this conflict.
No.507928
>>507876Victoria 2 is high tier.
No.507929
>Russia can just sell gas to Africa and China
Yeah, at a price that Russia won't be able to live off of for that long.
No.507930
>>507927>Jamal, the long pipekek
No.507931
>>507924highly limited intervention with small expansion of DPR/LNR controlled territory followed by Minsk-3 agreement which won't be respected.
You can always bet on Putin to go for frozen conflicts as an end result
No.507933
>>507894How good is Russell Bentley at predictions ?
He thinks a few days from now will be a happening.
No.507934
>>507929They've been living under sanctions and poverty for almost a decade. The spoiled westoids won't last as long as they can.
No.507935
>>507876I've seen better casus belli manufacturing in Paradox games than IRL. This whole situation was the most blatant clicking of "Justify War" button. And Erdogan definitely going down the "Restore the Empire" branch.
No.507936
>>507933I think he's only talking about militias though.
No.507937
Biden is like 1 hour late to his interview or whatever
Press 0 if you think he's lazy
Press 1 if you think he has fucking died.
No.507939
>>507937He's getting new intel after recent explosions in Lugansk.
No.507940
>>507929It is cheap. Much cheaper than other options across the globe.
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2016/01/22/adjusting-the-taps-on-oil-priceAlthough is old, is quite adjusted for today's reality (not adjusted to inflation, but adjusts to everyone). Russia can sell to Asia and Africa, two ever hungry of energy places in the world.
No.507942
>>507923>>507920How long until downstream countries can confirm it with pressure loss and stuff? We need some engineerfags here to educate us tards.
No.507943
>>507894>We're expecting to see some Russian planes flying around Donetsk Airport here in the next day or two.INCOMING TROOPS CONFIRMED??disregard ->
>>507936 No.507944
>>507941>Convince me to give a shitNo, now leave and fuck off.
No.507945
>>507921>we gon sanction Russia!>ban them from SWIFT!>no>kill Nordstream 2!>no>>507941US' goals have not been accomplished. They might escalate.
No.507947
>>507937His handlers are waiting for the drugs to take effect so that he would look presentable in front of the press.
No.507948
>>755105
RUSSIAN CUM
No.507949
>>755105
>>755099
keep seething nazoid 😂
No.507950
>>507942>can confirm it with pressure loss and stuff?That takes a few minutes. It's ilke water being cut. Gas liquified is basically liquid under high preasures, cut the line and all the system downstream loses preasure fast. More with this cool temperatures hitting Europe. But not sure if those pipes are directly connected to the ressidential areas or they are gas cilinders distribution centers.
>>755105MU SCRUSSIAN No.507951
>Listening to NPR on the way to work
<“Sanders is giving up the fight for freedom!”
<Bunch of talking heads all talking about how most Americans probably want to “protect” Ukraine
<Talks about how America and NATO always fought for freedom against the evil eastern bloc regimes.
>Spend a minute Parked outside of work screaming at my car radio like a lunatic.
I fucking hate NPR.
No.507952
Anglos and burgers fall for NATO sponsored false flags every time because they never learn.
No.507953
>>755105
RUSSIA WILL DELIVER 6 HOT LOADS IN NATO BUTTS
No.507956
>>507894Based lovely yank. May the providence bless him.
No.507957
>"As of this moment we are convinced that Putin has made the decision [to invade]."
No.507960
>>507957War confirmed to kick off before 24th?
No.507962
Biden's news conference lasted like 5 minutes.
No.507963
Two explosions that didn't kill anyone isn't going to convince Putin to authorize an invasion. The troop movements were to appease the nationalist elements in the government. The State Duma voted overwhelmingly for a draft appeal to recognize DPR and LPR but the way presidential system functions gives the president de facto absolute power and may change or reject such things and since Putin prefers economic stability over nationalist interests he rejected it and insists on the Minsk Protocol status quo. In Putin's view there are no economic interests for Russia to invade Ukraine.
No.507966
>Biden: We think that Putin has already given the order to invade.
<Press: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
<Do you believe diplomacy is still on the tables.
>Biden: Yes.
<Press: How do you know it?
>Biden: We have a really capacitated intelligency.
>Biden: The interview is over.
>Biden: *Literally runs out.*
No.507967
>"r-russia… w-we will i-impose s-sanctions!!!1"
>leaves
great conference joe
No.507968
So if Russell Bentley is right, Ukraine militias are about to invade, and Russia will come in to protect. If true, there will be a tidal wave of Western propaganda. The fighting will happen in the independent regions, so I predict they will refer to those regions as 'Ukraine' so that 'Russia invaded Ukraine' is true.
>>507963Good take, I still don't think they will invade.
>>507964Russia might move troops in just to protect from militias, who actually do defy basic logic. Russia would say they did it because Ukraine has no intention of enacting Minsk.
No.507969
>>507963Lmao, he really was educated by communists. Any non USSR retard would not have done that.
No.507970
>>507964But it's him who decides, not Ukraine and not Russia. It's been like that for weeks now.
Russia: We're not going to invade.
Ukraine: We don't believe in threat of invasion and we won't fall for provocations.
USA: WAR IS IMMINENT RUSSIANS WILL TAKE KIEV IN 48 HOURS BUY OUR WEAPONS
No.507971
>>507962Well you can't make these things too long, otherwise Putin may invade during the conference.
No.507974
>>507972Sizzlechads win again.
No.507975
>>507973>return to the negotiating table on 24th or it's warhold up, did he really say this, anon pls
No.507976
>>507969Interesting fact about Putin
http://www.karlremarks.com/2013/09/the-incredible-story-of-how-putin-used.html>Few people will know of the role chess played in Soviet strategic thinking and the various programmes that the USSR established to train its military and intelligence elites in the art of Zevsebia, or chess-think. Chess-think was for the USSR what game theory was for the US during the Cold War, but the Soviets went further than the Americans in making chess-think second nature to their cadres.
>According to Soviet documents that were declassified in 2004, the first Zevsebia programme was initiated in 1932 when Stalin, an obsessive chess player, put the man who would later head the NKVD Beria in charge of running the programme. Beria recruited Russian chess grandmaster Kavlov, also a keen amateur boxer who won a bronze medal in the 1924 Olympics, and charged him with developing the outline of the programme.Kavlov’s template was to survive almost unchanged until 1986, when Gorbachev, who had an aversion to chess, cancelled the programme after decades of successful operation during which it trained hundreds of the top Soviet cadres. Kavlov’s combination of intellectual and physical rigorous training provided a winning formula for the programme, and Stalin often joked that graduates were ‘our own Supermen’.
>The programme was only offered however to a small number of top operatives that had the appropriate levels of mental and physical fitness to pass the rigorous training. In the KGB for example, only agents promoted to the prestigious X2, nicknamed the steel professors, were allowed to receive a Zevsebia training. The X2, as you might have expected, was Vladimir Putin’s old unit in the KGB. An even more interesting fact is that the six remaining Zevsebia graduates are all associated with Putin’s inner policy circles, as former Kremlin insider Yuri Nodov revealed in his critical but obscure 2008 book ‘The Circle’.
>In one of the few available written documents on Zevsebia, Nodov published a description of the programme and its training routines in his book, providing a valuable insight that has gone largely unnoticed in the West. Not only were the trainees subjected to intensive training in tactics, military theory, chess and physical fitness, they were forced to compete in chess under extreme conditions. For example, the trainees were forced to play rounds of chess inside refrigerator rooms at below-zero temperatures. They were also made to compete inside very hot rooms, invariably while hopping one foot or doing push-ups. It isn’t surprising than fewer than fifteen per cent of all candidates graduated from the programme. It won’t come as a surprise that Putin came top of his class. No.507977
tldr:
>Kremlin [menacing military buildup]: "This will stop if no Ukraine in NATO.">NATO/Zelensky: "Whoa, this is serious. Tens of thousands will die if this gets worse. So here's our response: Ukraine can enter NATO. Also, Minsk peace deal is dead. Now go get your fuckin shinebox."https://nitter.snopyta.org/MarkAmesExiled/status/1494786215534604292#m No.507978
>>507976Better play chess then
No.507979
>>507975If Russia invades before the meeting on the 24th, diplomacy is over. Biden said this.
No.507980
>>755164
>Putin is bluffing that he will invade.
>Biden is calling his bluff and saying that yes he will invade.
I don't think you know what "calling his bluff" means.
No.507981
>>507954God, imagine strapping loudspeakers to a BTR and charging down the street at Azovites with this blasting.
No.507982
>>507976This shit is entirely made up. They mention a supposed secret KGB-invented chess sacrifice and when you search for it online, only this article pops up.
No.507983
>>507980>>755164What's funny is, Putin is the one repeatedly saying he won't invade, and Biden saying he will, so it is Biden who is bluffing kek
No.507984
Glowie seething with the first comment to a TeleSUR news report on the recent Mass evacuation from Donbas to Russia:
>Username: Concerning Venezuela>Comment: Donetsk and Luhansk are in Ukraine, according to this report and invasion of Ukraine is iminanet by Ukrainian forces. ??? This is a prime example of the disinformation that is the mainstay of the Maduro regime via propaganda outlets like TeleSUR.Source (youtube):
https://youtu.be/OYD4j7tIIqMSource (invidious):
https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=OYD4j7tIIqM No.507985
forgive english, i am Russia.
i come to study clothing and fashion at American university. i am here little time and i am very hard stress. i am gay also and this very difficult for me, i am very religion person. i never act to be gay with other men before. but after i am in america 6 weeks i am my friend together he is gay also. He was show me American fashion and then we are kiss.
We sex together. I never before now am tell my mother about gay because i am very shame. As i fock this American boy it is very good to me but also i am feel so guilty. I feel extreme guilty as I begin orgasm. I feel so guilty that I pick up my telephone and call Mother in Russia. I awaken her. It too late for stopping so I am cumming sex. I am very upset and guilty and crying, so I yell her, "I AM CUM FROM SEX" (in Russia). She say what? I say "I AM CUM FROM SEX" and she say you boy, do not marry American girl, and I say "NO I AM CUM FROM SEX WITH MAN, I AM IN ASS, I CUM IN ASS" and my mother very angry me. She not get scared though.
I hang up phone and am very embarrass. My friend also he is very embarrass. I am guilt and feel very stupid. I wonder, why do I gay with man? But I continue because when it spurt it feel very good in American ass.
Anyhow, russia will stomp ukrainian.
No.507986
>>507976This some james bond anime levels of lore.
No.507988
>>507976All of this sounds like bullshit. I searched as many cyrillic variations of the words zevsebia and zabvdana as possible and came up with literally no results. As in “no results found” in duckduckgo and even yandex
No.507989
>>507985Cease with this copypasta
No.507990
>>507983There is no "bluffing" going on, idiot. US is deliberately trying to portray Ukraine invading Donbass and Luhansk (
happening right now) as Russian aggression, in order to kill Nordstream 2.
I'm betting even
if Russia just poker-faces through the entire thing and throws Donbass and Luhansk under the bus, the "negotiating table" will have fucking nothing new, and talks will break down for the same reason they did last time.
Biden hinted at zero concessions. Either Russia bends, or US will try to break it.
No.507991
>>507976This reminds me of how Fidel Castro invented an advanced basketball move called the Eurostep:
https://medium.com/the-shocker/how-fidel-castro-invented-the-euro-step-a-brief-oral-history-1a68c25a4965
>Raul Castro: After we took power in 1959, Fidel would often unwind by playing basketball with some friends and advisers. I think it was around that time that he began to use what would come to be called the Euro Step. It wasn’t universally accepted though. Che, in particular, had some major issues with it for reasons I still struggle to fully grasp.
>Journal Entry by Che Guevara, 12 December 1962“In his frequent basketball matches, Fidel has started using a new move he simply calls ‘The Step.’ It is undeniably effective, yet is its goodness equally undeniable? As revolutionaries we must not merely pay attention to ends, but to means. I worry that this flash and pomp is not befitting of the revolutionary leader. It serves to separate him too much from those caught in the chains of a maudlin life, marred by oppression and economic strife. Yes, it leads to a basket, but at what cost to the communal spirit?”
>Raul Castro: We all knew that Che was the more ideologically motivated of the two of them, but I’m not sure any of us realized just how big the gap between him and Fidel was, before this. Many of us thought, ‘it’s just a basketball move,’ but Che saw it as indicative of a straying from revolutionary means. I’m not sure many of us really understood how he got there. It was a big point of contention though. No.507994
>>507987I think this is old pasta lol
No.507997
>>507996Caption says:
>For you, tea with sugar or my tears No.507998
Unconfirmed reports of a shirtless Jeb! wandering the streets of Donetsk. He appears confused and irate, approach with extreme caution.
No.508000
>>507991it is moments like this that I realize that revolutionary groups are often groups of shizos in idiots just like leftypol.
I can imagine this exact shit happening with some of the people here.
No.508002
>>508000Are you doubting the raw power of Zevsebia and the Eurostep?
No.508003
>>508001The namefags are going to be the ones doing the purging, and then they'll be all that's left.
Is that what you want?
No.508004
>>508003>ooga booga namefagsBy whose consent will they be the ones in charge of purging? Just because they're namefags?
Being a big shot in the beginning didn't save Trotsky.
No.508005
>>508000Откуда вот это нытье?
No.508006
>>508005We have like 3 schizo/retards constantly hanging around.
No.508008
>>508004t. will be consigned to the cotton gulags and become synonymous with reactionary revisionism against Marxism-Shayism
No.508010
>>508003>The namefags are going to be the ones doing the purgingpicrel
In other news, two explosions in Donbas, one in a gas station, other in a unknown place. Both explosions were caused by unknown reasons.
No.508011
>>508009you will be Sus right.
No.508013
>>507990US has already gone back on sanctioning SWIFT, Germans bourgeoisie don't want to kill NS2, and France has already suggested following Minsk for peace. Biden lies all the time about Russia invading and whatnot, aka 'bluffing.' Putin has actual leverage here, the play could work.
No.508014
>>508013Yes. That's the problem - this shit isn't working. We are in the actual Cool Zone, because US might decide shortsightedly to escalate the situation in order to achieve its short-term goals.
No.508015
>>507993Atlantic Council are like a bunch of LARPing HOI cosplayers
>>508014All that happens is Russia btfos some Ukrainians, whether militia or actual military, then receives some sanctions. Donbass buildings get destroyed. I'm not even sure NS2 gets killed forever. Trump would probably give it back lol
No.508016
Apparently an oil pipeline got hit in Lugansk
No.508017
>>508015oh lawd can you imagine a second trump campaign with all the russia shit?
libs' tiny brains will overheat and melt
No.508018
>>508015>Atlantic Council are like a bunch of LARPing HOI cosplayersYeah LARPing HOI players who used to run Wikipedia and run the censorship department at Reddit
No.508020
>>507991What's the dumbest shit that actual famous socialists have gotten heated over, like I can imagine people starting a split over a basketball move.
No.508021
AN OIL PIPELINE JUST SLID OUT OF MY PANTS
No.508022
>>508021What the fuck stop lying. If it slid out of your pants then what the fuck just flew over my house?
No.508023
>>508022 (me)
Sorry, I think that was a gas pipeline… my bad
No.508024
>>508017Honestly hope it happens. Libs will begin to self-immolate in front of the capitol building
No.508026
>>508020It depends how you define "famous". The dumbest shit that comes to mind for me is during the 1970s in Tony Cliff's sect (UK SWP) he was trying to push the group out of college campuses and into the factories, organizing unions, etc. Well, one of those factory initiatives actually succeeded and brought a bunch of factory workers into the party, they immediately started criticizing Cliff's sectarian leadership, in response Cliff purged them and forgot about his workerist rhetoric he had just been pushing.
No.508027
>another thread of literally nothing happening while retards fight over the definition of imperialism
No.508028
>>507990>Ukraine invading Donbass and LuhanskIs this actually happening lads? Is there any credible footage showing this?
No.508029
>>508028there is footage of sounds of shelling. there are lots of claims of shelling. footage of enemy troops is pretty rare I think
No.508030
>>508027so…the same as the rest of the website?
No.508033
>>508031>RT Russia & Former Soviet UnionSince when did they start call themselves that?
No.508034
>>508028>reports of ceasefire violations all around at the point of contact>reports of shelling behind the front line>reports of evacuation>reports of casualtiesPretty obvious what's happening.
No.508035
Jack Matlock, the last US ambassador to the USSR, writing about this crisis:
>Maybe I am wrong—tragically wrong—but I cannot dismiss the suspicion that we are witnessing an elaborate charade, grossly magnified by prominent elements of the American media, to serve a domestic political end. Facing rising inflation, the ravages of Omicron, blame (for the most part unfair) for the withdrawal from Afghanistan, plus the failure to get the full support of his own party for the Build Back Better legislation, the Biden administration is staggering under sagging approval ratings just as it gears up for this year’s congressional elections. Since clear “victories” on the domestic woes seem increasingly unlikely, why not fabricate one by posing as if he prevented the invasion of Ukraine by “standing up to Vladimir Putin”? Actually, it seems most likely that President Putin’s goals are what he says they are—and as he has been saying since his speech in Munich in 2007. To simplify and paraphrase, I would sum them up as: “Treat us with at least a modicum of respect. We do not threaten you or your allies, why do you refuse us the security you insist for yourself?”https://usrussiaaccord.org/acura-viewpoint-jack-f-matlock-jr-todays-crisis-over-ukraine/ No.508036
>>508034Where can I see these reports? Is there non-Russian sources?
No.508038
Kek, who runs this site? All NATO sources are in blue and everything Russia-related, even poor little Transnistria, are in big scary red ((enemy)) markings.
No.508039
>>508034there doesn't need to be an ongoing offensive for those things to happen tho
No.508040
>>508035Are the americans causing the violence somehow?
No.508041
>>508038Yeah it's run by liberals, their Twitter account makes that clear enough. But it's a decent source of information that is conveniently tied to a map. Might as well use it.
No.508042
>>508038It's colours in their flags. It doesn't have to have a meaning beyond that
No.508043
>>508040He's talking about the threat of major war, not the proxy battle by separatists. Yes, the Americans could end the major threat by signing a treaty to never allow Ukraine or other countries bordering Russia into NATO.
No.508045
>>508043>Baltics and Poland get kicked out of NATOdamn
No.508046
>>755287
Not even at the expense of Ukrainians?
No.508047
>>508045Obviously Russia is demanding that no NEW countries get added, pedant.
No.508048
>>508045>>508047Balts and Poles getting kicked out of NATO would be great, though.
No.508050
Are serious ethnic tensions at play here? No genocide watch right?
No.508051
>>508050Donetsk and Luhansk seceded on their own for a reason.
No.508053
So do we have a legit happening or just some ball-tickling foreplay?
No.508054
>>508053The balls are being thoroughly massaged, but whether or not they get yanked is up to Biden.
No.508055
>>508052It’s an actual cultural genocide that the Burgers made up regarding the Uyghurs.
No.508058
>>508054They are being massaged in a way that will turn them into a eunuch
No.508059
>>508057I love it when a "news channel" just reports on someone else reporting.
No.508060
So thinking about this logically, the evacuation order is actually tactically brilliant. Look at this roadway, it seems to be the main traffic artery from Donetsk city to the big Russian staging area in the direction of Rostov.
If the Russians' objective is to move up and reinforce the republics when shit pops off, they know that any attack on Donetsk, a big city of 900,000 people, will inevitably lead to a huge exodus of refugees taking this exact roadway. And tons of them will run out of fuel, leave cars on the road, lots of civvies walking on foot in the winter weather, etc. clogging up an important transport route and probably a highway of death situation if ukrops shell it.
So they're getting the inevitable out of the way and clearing the way for the armor to move through unperturbed.
I think once the traffic jam of civvies clears up and they're safely out of the way, we might have a habbening.
No.508061
>>508057>muh satellite imagesthey are literally creating false proofs now.
No.508062
AHHHH A HAPPENING JUST FLEW OVER THAT OTHER ANONS HOUSE
No.508064
BREAKING NEWS: IN ALL THE PANIC ON RUSSIA'S WESTERN BORDER RUSSIA HAS INVADED MONGOLIA WHILE NO ONE WAS PAYING ATTENTION.
No.508065
so this is goddamn thing fake cia news or not
No.508066
>>508063Okay, I just checked and the dark line is actually a railroad, but there are roads on basically the same route. They split up at a town called Kuteinykove and go towards Donetsk from both directions, so if you see that name in the news as getting shelled I might have been right.
No.508068
>>507673literally whats gonna habben
russia invades ukraine and takes over all of eastern ukraine
us sanctions but doesnt do anything. Nato sends forces to western ukraine but wont invade the east.
russia stops and declares ceasefire. The west is humilaited, putin laughs
No.508070
>>508069lmao like the OSCE wouldn't OK it
No.508072
>>508069>refuse to let OSCE inspect the supposed kindergarten attack site.uh, where does it say that
No.508074
>>508060>>508066this is even more interesting when you consider it in light of bentley's video a few days ago (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu48GbtH5u8&t=1s) wherein he talks about the potential for human shield tactics being used to counteract russian missile and air strikes. he explicitly talks about the likelihood of the roads to russia being clogged in the event of habbening.
No.508075
>>508072>The SMM was only able to conduct its assessment from a distance of about 50m from the north-eastern facade and of about 30m from the south-western facade of the damaged building,
as a law enforcement officer did not allow the Mission to access the site saying that an
investigation was ongoing.
No.508076
>>508067Poland is operating like 4 or 5 types of MBTs now, none of which are compatible with each other
literally a cash cow for western MIC
No.508077
>>508074Shit, now I get what he means about the roads being small and how the tanks and trucks wouldn't get there on time. And even if they give the convoys another day the roads will probably still be clogged.
Guarantee NATO will screech relentlessly if they deplot planes and missiles to halt an attack. Their propaganda has created such a fog of war in the minds of people that anything Russia does can be spun into a provocation.
No.508078
>>508019I honestly feel bad for this delusional/brainwashed Boomer who thinks he’s fighting for the USSR when he is really just a stooge in a lame Inter-Imperialist Conflict. He should have joined one of the Maoist PPWs where he could fought alongside real Communists, instead of the Donbass LARPers who can’t figure out if their role playing the Russian Empire (particularly the infamous Black hundreds and the White Army), the USSR (the bastardized Putinist/Duginist version of it that pretends Stalin was a Great Russian Chauvinist and Orthodox Christian “Traditionalist”), or (most accurately) the Axis-aligned “Russian Liberation Army” of the traitorous General Vlasov.
No.508079
Anyone notice all this picked up right after the Bogdanoffs allegedly "died"? What's Sminem's angle here?
No.508080
>>508077but then it makes me wonder why if the ukranians were going to move in, like bentley claims they are almost certainly going to do, they would allow the russians to evacuate. it seems like the best possible time to move would be while the roads are the most clogged, and that this is just giving the russians more time. why not just rush in, take the cities, and then wait for the russians to either back down or bomb civilians? unless they're waiting for cloud cover later in the week as he suggests in the video? or the genuinely are waiting for russia to make the first move?
No.508081
>>508057Someone figured out that the satellite image (pic related) seems to actually be of an airbase in Crimea, far from the border, nowhere near Millerovo. Check Google maps:
https://goo.gl/maps/uN6tsbuGmCjPHfrN7 or 45°20'12.6"N 33°02'25.1"E
"6-time Emmy Award winning producer for CBS News", kek
No.508084
>>508080That's assuming the Ukrainian high command has any clue what they're doing, or if they're just relying on Daddy Yankee to keep them protected. The Afghan army mostly existed on paper to let the commanders skim salaries and fuel and folded in 2 weeks, after all.
They don't necessarily have to know what they're doing or have a complete plan.
>>508081Should give him a Pulitzer, named after the newspaper owner who (along with Hearst) manufactured consent and whipped the public into a frenzy after the Maine bombing in 1898.
No.508085
>>508078I watched a different video of his, seems like he's more motivated by killing Nazis than being a communist. He's roleplaying a WW2 battle
No.508086
>>508079without the Bodganoffs, the bogsphere that encircle the Earth and kept our anihilation until we reached global communism through clinical changes in the course of civilization by the spirits of the bolsheviks has come to an end, now everything is in madness.
No.508088
>>508084i guess you're right. i'm greatly underestimating the probable incompetence of nato-aligned forces.
No.508089
>>507827Uyghur, yes, but Idk enough about the Donbass genocide
No.508090
US news is currently claiming Russian separatists did some kind of false flag attack.
Anyone else following this?
No.508091
War is over! Someone make a Jeb! victory map of Ukraine.
No.508092
>The Special Mission of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) for Monitoring in Ukraine recorded a large increase in activity along the line of contact in the Donbas region.
>The organization's monitors noted a total of 222 ceasefire violations in the Donetsk region, including 135 explosions. Meanwhile, in the Lugansk region, a total of 648 violations were recorded, including 519 explosions.
No.508093
>>508092Minsk is dead, here come the Russian army
No.508095
>>508090Most obvious false flag ever. Attacked an empty room in a fucking kindergarten, I mean for fuck's sake. It's so ridiculous that fucking Boris Johnson is claiming that it was a false flag made
by Russia. It's clown warfare.
No.508096
>>508095>Most obvious false flag ever. Attacked an empty room in a fucking kindergarten, I mean for fuck's sake. It's so ridiculous that fucking Boris Johnson is claiming that it was a false flag made by RussiaIt literally goes both ways. Russia is making the same false flag claim
Fog of war, who knows what is true.
No.508097
>>508096Are we really going to question who says what, when the last 3 months we have a state that their officials contradicts themselves on a daily basis while the other has claimed do not want something and they aren't doing something exactly as they say?
No.508098
>>508097This isn't what is happening
No.508099
>>508098How so? The Ukrainian state contradicts on a daily basis, the Russian state on the other hand was saying they don't want to invade Ukraine and they weren't doing it. Even now with the peak and high escalation from the Ukrainian counterpart.
No.508100
As Lugansk Citizen, I must say, it's quite as for now, i could say 'awfully quite' but that would a cliche, no shellings heard around this part.
But As Donbassian, i'm determined, we must end these 8 years of bloody limbo, no matter how or who wins, this is a battle of destiny if you will.
No.508102
>>508100Could you post any proof that you live there without doxxing yourself?
No.508103
>[Forwarded from Intel Slava] ⚡⚡ the U.S. Deputy Ambassador Gorman expelled from Russia - Ria
No.508104
>>508096Russia won't invade, it has nothing to gain from that. Even the official Ukraine government doesn't want war, it's the fucking NATO and and neonazi infiltration in the State (but I repeat myself) who want war, the former because it's their entire fucking point to shit Russia, and the world in general, up, and the latter because they literally want to genocide the Russian population in the separatist territories.
No.508105
>>508101Because they really want to make this a WW3 shit.
Like Bush said, either with us or agaisnt us.
No.508107
>>508100Yeah, anyone sane would agree, even Ukraine-supporting libs. It's not good for anyone, not NATO, not Russia, not the proles living there. Donbass can't become another Cyprus or Korea, this needs to be ended conclusively one way or another.
>>508104I think the Ukrainians don't want war now that they know NATO won't have their back. I like to think there are shouting matches going on at military HQ and Zelensky is probably getting yelled at by his handlers to set up talks with Putin.
This massive military buildup by Russia may just be a show of force to get them to realize how deep shit they're in, like Operation Paul Bunyan.
No.508109
>>508084The journo who posted it, Mary Walsh, is the longtime producer of CBS national security/pentagon correspondent David C. Martin, whose father was a senior official in the CIA for two decades. He is a Yale graduate too, as you might know Yale has long been popular with the CIA for recruitment. Big surprise.
No.508110
>>508108I hope you are okay.
How many people evacuated? Are you going to leave to Russia?
Are you expecting Ukraine militias to invade?
Do you think Russia will send the army in?
Thanks
No.508112
>>508111It's "passport" in Cyrillic, you silly goose!
No.508114
>>508100Ложись, поспи, браток
No.508116
>>508115<Gonzalo cringeStop it.
As for the CPP position probably is condemnation of both sides, with the bigger fault laid on the US, but this is just an educated guess I'm not presenting official info.
No.508117
>>508110Thanks, Friend.
I don't have such info as for now, but there is a lot of buses going out of city, also many evacuation posts were set in all major cities, LPR prioritized getting orphants and elderly houses first.
Well I'm Male above 18, so even if i wanted to i couldn't do it.
From Point of ordinary citizens it would terrific for Ukros to invade, but i hope for the best.
My hope that they will, ofc here people can say that Russia is also bad, in which i will agree, but choosing between Eternal President with corrupt Oligarchy, and Bomb Shells falling on your head with ultranat and neo nazi battalions roaming around? I'd choose the first.
>>508113>>508114I absolutely should, thanks comrades
No.508118
>>508117You’re welcome. And remember: No pasarán
No.508119
>>508117Goodnight and stay safe my friend
No.508120
>>508115prepare yourself for the most deranged answers ITT>>508117Kek, I knew this was a larp.
No Donbas resident pro-Ukraine, anti-Russia remained there.
No.508121
>>508117>Well I'm Male above 18, so even if i wanted to i couldn't do it. So this is inaccurate, then?
<2/ DPR dismisses reports of men between 18-55 being banned from leaving Donetsk amid evacuation to Russia<*2/ Correction to above tweet – LPR dismisses, not DPR.https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary/status/1494760406405070850 No.508122
>>508120 (me)
The two first videos are the explosions in the Donbas.
No.508123
>>508120I don’t think the guy is pro ukraine
No.508124
>>508120He said he picks Russia over the neonazis
No.508125
>>508124>>508123Oh yeah, I read another thing.
No.508126
>>508107>Zelensky is probably getting yelled at by his handlers to set up talks with Putinbiden called him to yell at him too, because he wasn't playing up the invasion enough
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/27/politics/biden-zelensky-call/index.htmlthis poor guy's getting shit on from all sides, i'd be amazed if he makes it to the end of the year without a coup (or survives at all)
No.508127
>>508120i'm pro russian as in return donbass to russia, but not pro putin, albeit, i recognize that he is the better option for RF rn.
>>508121 Seems i Foocked Up, but not much, DNR and LNR news crosslinked a lot, our leader - Leonid Pasechnik only encouraged all able-bodied men to stay and pick up the gun, also created commissions for the initial registration of citizens for military registry.
(official LNR news source btw, if any of you want)
https://lug-info.com/news/glava-lnr-poruchil-sozdat-komissii-po-pervonachal-noj-postanovke-grazhdan-na-voinskij-uchet No.508128
>>508126Only a stupid comedian would want to be president of a shithole like Ukraine
No.508129
>>508126wow, womst have gessed that the imperial bloc that shits on its non core members would shit on their peon, must not read the history of NATO, just the part it was funded by Nazis.
No.508130
>>508124I really can't be optimistic. Reactionaries, by their nature, not only don't go away by themselves, but accumulate over time like trash at a riverbend. Fighting them, let alone purging an advanced infestation, always involves active effort, and liberal governments, historically, do the. exact opposite and instead foster them In the unlikely event he picks Russia, you can bet he will get Euromaidaned up the ass.
No.508131
>>508127No shame in leaving if you have no military background or training. Hope your family's safe, this is the calm before the storm.
>>508128Takes a special kind of retard to want to be a figurehead for all kinds of interests. Didn't a bunch of oligarchs fly out and leave him in the dust a few days ago?
No.508132
>>508127I hope you kill a fascist
No.508133
>>508127>i'm pro russian as in return donbass to russia, but not pro putin, albeit, i recognize that he is the better option for RF rn.A sensibble opinion. In every single international debacle into which America stuck its nose, it picked the worst side possible, with the only
possible exception being Afghanistan. And even that's debatable, because America is the reason that country is a fundamentalist shithole in the first place.
No.508134
>>508127Не волнуйся, что ошибся, бывает.
No.508135
>>508115The Maoist position is that these Ukraine-Russia "tensions" are the expression or a broader Inter-Imperialist Conflict in which no real Communists should take sides. A great explanation of this position is seen in this article from Tribune of the People
https://tribuneofthepeople.news/2022/01/28/tensions-escalate-as-us-and-russian-imperialism-contend-for-dominance-in-ukraine/ .
No.508137
Why do redditors like to spout the 'Russia has a small gdp' argument as if that matters in war?
I'm every comment section I see some smug redditor saying something along the lines of ' did you know Russia has a smaller gdp than Texas Herp derp, don't worry about them'
No.508138
>>508135>Conflict in which no real Communists should take sidesTold ya
>>508115, retarded takes.
No.508139
>>508137Amerishit chauvinism
No.508140
>>508137Because they think it's Civilization 6 and GDP is like gold per turn
No.508141
>>508127It is now 5:30 am. Are you hoping for Ukrainians to bring you coffee?
No.508142
>>508135>US imperialism seeks to expand its reach further and encircle Russia from both a military and economic standpoint, while the goal of Russian imperialism is to protect its semi-colonies from being taken over by pro-US and pro-European Union elements.Is this a case of Russian imperialism though? I thought post Maidan Ukraine was a NATO puppet.
No.508143
>>508141I don't think that this time they can sleep, fam, it's the first day with a violent escalation. I wouldn't be able to sleep in that regard.
No.508145
>>508137All the big subreddits are astroturfed beyond belief. Seriously, don't even bother checking those, it's pure disinfo.
No.508146
>>508141According to Bentley, the Ukrainian infantry can bring it to him faster than Russian APCs.
He should order from a Kiev Pizza Hut and ask if Zelensky can deliver it.
No.508147
>>508142The DPR/LPR are Semi-Colonies of Russia.
No.508148
>>508138Only Revisionists believe Communists should take sides in Inter-Imperialist Conflicts.
No.508150
>>508148Only revisionists see a struggle for liberation as an inter-inperialist conflict
No.508151
>>508148Yeah, and only CIA payrolled ultras believe not picking sides is the [insert the current virtue signaling of your fashion taste here] correct take.
You don't live in a 3rd world country sanctioned to shit out of the U.S. I do, I can tell your shit armchairing will not help me, unlike what Russia does.
No.508152
>>508151Idealism is a hard-to-kick habit.
No.508153
>global nuclear holocaust
>crawling in sand, about to die of radiation poisoning
>another bomb glimmers in the sky
>"I DO NOT OPPOSE THIS…. NOR DO I SUPPORT IT"
>die
No.508154
>>508151Why don't you join a Maoist party and help start a Protracted People's War in your country instead of supporting you Comprador Capitalist Puppet government?
No.508156
>>508155Everyone who is not actively doing a PPW is guilty of being a capitalist comprador to him
No.508157
>>508156He may not have brains, but he's got spirit.
No.508158
>>508147They only exist because America turned Ukraine into a fucking fascist barnyard. This sorry mess wouldn't even exist if the West didn't insist on building up a false national myth of heroic Nazi collaborators and muh Holodomor. The Azov dipshits' goal is to ethnically cleanse those two regions, Russia is unquestionably the lesser evil here.
No.508159
>>508155Don't dig too deep into his rationale, or else you will get crazy.
>>508154Who says I am not at a party. I travel every day from 7 to the afternoon to talk with some comrades and workers in my local community. That doesn't mean having the need to throw to the cesspool the few gains just to form a guerrilla cellule to overthrow the guy in charge and expect the capitalists of the west don't overrun us in a blink.
Go outside, JFK.
No.508161
>>508159>Don't dig too deep into his rationale, or else you will get crazy.I got him banned for months and made him go through a character arc.
No.508163
>>508153The Global Capitalist Elite of all the Imperialist countries (the U$, EU, Putinist Russia, Dengist China, etc.) will never let that happen, because it would destroy the material basis of the Global Imperialist-Capitalist System, by collapsing Industrial Civilization Itself (their are not enough Nuclear Weapons of a high enough yield to cause the extinction-level event possible in the 1980s, but their are plenty enough to collapse Industrial society). Even in the exceedingly small chance that World War 3 did break out, it would be a purely Conventional conflict contrary to the Schizo Happooner wet dreams of "Nuclear War" and "Nuclear Winter", LOL.
No.508166
>>508163Hey King, could you recommend some good Maoist orgs in the US? Is FRSO any good, and have you heard of For The People? Also, what are your opinions on the revcoms?
No.508167
I don't know anyone rooting for Ukraine outside Atlanticists and Ukrainian diaspora. In real life, nobody I know wants anything to do with it. Leftists hate Ukraine for being full of nazis and rightists hate Ukraine because they see them as Soros-backed stooges fighting the anti-globalist Putin.
No.508168
What's been happening today? I already know about Biden's 5 minute address and the kindergarten thing, just been busy for the past 7-ish hours.
No.508169
>>508168The people's republics began to evacuate into Russia, a possible sign of incoming escalation. Other than that, a shitload of Minsk violations from both sides, much more shellings than usual.
No.508170
>>508169Checked and thanks. Definitely an interesting development.
No.508171
>>508166The FRSO are Revisionists who uphold Dengist China as a "Socialist" state and the Revcoms are Schizo cultists (they put Bob Avakian on the same level as Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao), so I would definatly stay away from those two groups. Everything I have heard about For The People and the MCP-OC is very positive (They are Marxist-Leninist-Maoists of the Sisonite variety), especially their highly developed stance on the National Question with regards to the Oppressed Nations/Internal Colonies in the U$, so if your interested you should definatly check them out.
However, I would think twice before joining any Communist organizations in the U$, because as I have said many times the U$ is the least likely country to have a Socialist Revolution, due to it being not just part of the Imperial Core, but it probably being the most Anti-Communist country on earth with deeply rooted Settler-Colonialism (it literally traces its roots back to a Joint-Stock Company that ran Tobacco plantations with Slave labor) that makes the White Working Class willing bootlickers of the Global Imperialist-Capitalist System. Thus joining any Communist organization in the U$ risks putting yourself in great risks for little reward (its one thing to part yourself in danger if their is a serious chance of success, but it is quite another to do so if your doomed from the start), and this is the reason I myself am not apart of any and I keep my ideological activities to cyberspace, LOL.
No.508172
>>755799
It's possible, but that is exactly what the Americans want you to think. Blinken even said today, "we aren't saying all this because we want a war, but because we're trying to prevent a war." So if you trust the US state department, then scaring the Western media will somehow keep Russia at bay, who are enacting the dumbest plan ever of assembling a ton of troops and then giving the West/Ukraine as much time as they want to prepare.
No.508173
Russia is no longer even socialist and neither is Ukraine , let the capitalist pigs bleed each other white, it will make a future return to communism easier.
No.508174
>>508173Profoundly undialectical
No.508175
>>508171>they put Bob Avakian on the same level as Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, and Maoholy based
No.508176
>>508174yeah man and all the bourgeoisie empires slaughtering each other in WW1 never led to anything either
No.508177
test
No.508178
>>508176Even more undialectical. Tell me how the conditions are commensurable to WWI
No.508179
>>508178why don't you tell me the dialectical "take", fam.
No.508181
>>508173>Russia is no longer even socialistAlmost all countries in the world are not "even" socialist, do you support war against them? Should the US just annex Mexico because "let the capitalists fight this out"? What a spineless, nihilist take.
No.508182
>>508181>Should the US just annex Mexico because "let the capitalists fight this out"?yes actually
communist revolution and a united proletariat would be much easier under a single government world
No.508183
>>5081791) Please refrain from dodging the question
2) These two capitalist entities are very different from one another, with one representing the dominant imperialist power in the world and another representing a counterhegemonic state which, while unreliable and aspiring towards becoming an imperial power, nevertheless has a bourgeoise with a more tenuous, less hegemonic base of support (Putin needs the threat of western aggression to justify his shitty, kleptocratic government, and Russia has a marxist past that was fondly remembered by the people who lived through it, as well as more robust communist organizations. Moreover, it can barely help its CIS bourgeois allies control their own popular uprisings, as seen in Kazakhstan). If Russia scores a victory and NATO backs down, it thwarts the US-NATO projection of power in Europe, which gives Russia some breathing room for popular discontent to be realized in an actual revolution and not a color revolution. If NATO wins, you get one more comprador state to further expand its hegemony.
No.508184
>>508176The bourgeoisie didn't fight in WWI. It was workers who died in the trenches and on the battlefields of WWI. Also the demands of the Bolsheviks was to end the war, not prolong it because of some edgy terminally online accelerationist take. That distinguished them from all kinds of ultra-leftists who ended up even sabotaging efforts to end the war.
No.508185
>>508182Tell me you’re not serious. Do you think that a US hegemony would be the most viable option for a future communist revolution?
No.508186
>>508182Ah okay you are just trolling, got it. Sometimes it's hard to tell.
No.508189
>>508184the bolsheviks demanded to end the war because it was already happening. they would have been a tiny cult and footnote in history without ww1.
No.508190
>>508189That’s absurd. Not the idea that the war helped them, but that they’d be nothing without the war
No.508191
>>508183>if NATO's gone, then there's the slightest chance that if Russia suffers critical existence failure for whatever reason, it will lead to a communist revolutiongrasping at straws a bit.
No.508192
>>508190they only became more than a minor faction because all the bigger socialist groups decided to perform public relations suicide by supporting the bloodiest war in history. if this isn't already a given to you then you haven't studied the history of it enough.
No.508193
>>508137In liberal spaces, Russians are the people you are actually allowed to be racist against. I don't use the word lightly. But "muh GDP" and stuff like that is for liberals what "black crime statistics" are for /pol/yps.
In general, Russophobia is widely accepted and you are ridiculed when you point it out, both in the US and in Europe. The only type of racism that Europeans practice even more is antiziganism. You can basicallt say that Roma and Sinti are thieves and should be expelled, that Russians are genetically prone to deception, and still go home and be a good woke liberal that cares about LGBT and whatever.
No.508194
>>508191>Tfw nobody said thatThis is in terms of probabilities. The lack of NATO balances the odds in favor of popular discontent being shifted to the communists vs color revolution neolibs, and workers in Kazakhstan were able to achieve some victories in their popular, but not communist uprising, since NATO didn’t really interfere with it. But it’s not gonna make a revolution guaranteed and nobody has said it here.
If you’re gonna strawman people, do it better
No.508195
>>508192This single issue was the end-all be-all? Not the proto-capitalist political economic developments of landless
peasants and landed kulaks? Or the worker soviets of the 1905 revolution?
No.508196
>>508193Well, I respect slavs more than other europeans since they don’t remind me of white people, in terms of their culture, mentality and history
No.508197
>>508194or, it could just mean that each faction's legitimacy is strengthened by their mutual emnity, as opposed to russia being forced into a subservient position, meaning the US will continue to eat itself from the inside.
No.508198
>>508195None of that shit impacted the bolsheviks any more than the other socialist factions. You ARE aware there were other socialists?
No.508199
>>508193>In liberal spaces, Russians are the people you are actually allowed to be racist against. >>508196>Well, I respect slavs more than other europeans since they don’t remind me of white people, in terms of their culture, mentality and historyThe duality of man
No.508200
>>508199>>508196 here, I ain’t white.
No.508201
>>508197Maybe I’m stupid, but run that by me one more time
No.508202
>>508198Yes, and the Narodniks and their descendants, the SRs, not to mention the economists, Kadets and so on were nowhere nearly as organized as the bolsheviks.
No.508203
if we're doing ww1 analogies, this would appear to be moat comparable to serbian nationalists struggling against the austro-hungarian empire with the backing of russia, as opposed to the subsequent larger bout of general great power conflict. those of you taking a general anti-war stance will have a point if and when this escalates into an open stand-off between america and russia's respective coalitions. even in such a case, the correct position for citizens of the belligerent states will not be mere opposition to the conflict as such, but rather active defeatism.
No.508205
>>508204Valid, but this is also true of everywhere that doesn’t have liberal brainworms, that is to say the third world, and especially countries with a strong leftwing tradition.
No.508206
>>508193>Okay to be racistNah that's the Chinese. Liberals will claim it's just the government and then say they're natural thieves, liars, etc. Russian criticism gets directed more at Putin and whatever shadowy organizations are astroturfing Reddit this week
No.508211
Russia has an enormous media edge on Ukraine by having their own major outlets put out constant updates
While Ukraine does not. Even as a western journalist who is pro-nato the updates are still useful to you and will be reshared on social media regularly
No.508212
>>508210Imagine being the person in this video
No.508213
>>508137I don't think its racism or chauvinism like the other anons here. The main reason I think is that these redditors fear Russia, due to its military might, geopolitical weight, aggressive posturing etc. They then point out the economic weakness of Russia as a sort of cope, in the "see, there is no reason to be afraid of them, they are a paper tiger"- sort of way.
No.508218
>>508136I gotta say that I found this take quite balanced and reasonable, I expected worse.
>>508135This feels more detached from reality than the CPP one,demonstrating that the Filipinos are politically wiser on average than Gonzaloids.
No.508220
>>508154<Implying ppws can start by sheer force of willRead Sison (which is one of yours btw so can't be accused of revisionism):ppw is NOT universal and is to be restricted to HIGHLY backwards countries.
No.508221
UKRAINE JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
No.508224
>>508217>the popular republics.run by literal Russian mobsters. every time they do a referendum, only about 30% of Donbas residents say they want to separate/join Russia, while majority always votes to unite with Ukraine/have their own autonomous region within Ukraine. LPR and DPR use socialist language and symbols, but they're anything but.
No.508226
>>508207Inb4 U.S.claims it’s a false flag
No.508227
>>508224Can you share a source for these referendums?
No.508229
HOLY SHIT VLADOLF PUTLER GOT INTO MY HOUSE WITH A T-34
No.508230
It seems Donetsk and Lugansk joined on that Hoi4 arrows game
https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1494987633059110912?cxt=HHwWgIC5wZvVob8pAAAA
>Donetsk intel managed to snatch the masterplan for the upcoming US-ordered Kiev blitzkrieg.
>Donetsk's Basurin says their main goal is to "cleanse" Donbass from Russian speakers - that is, those who have not been evacuated.
>And to reach the Russian border in 2 days max.(Disclaimer: Pepe Escobar is usually 70% true 30% hype bullshit so treat it accordingly).
No.508231
>>508228sources for referendums?
No.508232
>>508228>if you don't think LPR and DPR are communist countries here to usher in a world revolution, you must think Putin is literally Hitlerwhy must you burgers see everything as black and white? what's up with this binary thinking? they've done a study recently and apparently how mammals and other animals make decisions is their brain reduced everything to a binary choice, so the animal just has to keep choosing between two options and that's how it makes decisions.
No.508234
>>508228Tourist moment, that has been the consensus on DPR and LPR for years
No.508238
uyghas is it really gonna happen, I don't feel like going to work anymore, i want WW3
No.508239
>>508238You're not alone, m8. Screw with daily retarded life tbh. We need war & escalation to end the mess they just made years ago. Now if only we got enough revolutionaries who literally done something out there instead becoming armchair & endless debate in imageboads & every cesspool of social media.
No.508240
>>508238>>508239Best case scenario is unfortunately for you huge blueballing with Germany's gas and imports from China cut off but no war, and Minsk reaffirmed by either detente or limited RF military intervention again Ukraine in the Donbas.
I mean the real best case scenario is probably NS2 getting activated but the Germans apparently need to learn a lesson for that to happen.
No.508241
>>508238>>508239If things turns out like WW1 again, then there should be similar Bolsheviks organization uprising at the end of the war or during the war later.
Remember:
The history repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farceHistory is class struggle No.508242
>>508240>NS2 activatedWhat's the point becoming burgers pawn or Russian pawn?
No.508243
>>508235>>508236>>508237who are the presidents of LPR and DPR? Are they lifelong communists? How were they elected? Are they freedom fighters that have been on the ground since 2014,fighting for their clay?
spoiler alert:
they're Russian millionaires, literally flown in to come and lead LPR and DPR. No.508244
>>508243>who are the presidents of LPR and DPR? Are they lifelong communists? How were they elected? Are they freedom fighters that have been on the ground since 2014,fighting for their clay? The luhansk president was a renowned policeman.
Cope Ukrop.
No.508245
>>508243Post source about spoiler. And if there's no war, I hope US got lynch harder along with entire anglosphere.
No.508246
Calm down Ukop
No.508247
Why Ukrainians want to become Western pawn? Why just don't go along with Russia & China & abandon the weak Westerners?
No.508248
Like you can still got Ukraine like in the Soviet era. Soviet Reunion later should be suffice to bring back the good old days.
No.508249
>>508242Maybe Germany could take off the cuck cage and put on some big boy pants and interact with other influential countries as if they're a leading country in one of the world's largest trading blocs, rather than some powerless satellite state.
No.508250
Entire anglosphere is rotten everyday. Westerners should take the L & if they want revenge, you should revive Soviet Union. You must. It's the only way the boundaries between West & East shall gone.
No.508251
>>508244>The luhansk president was a renowned policeman.and as we know, policemen are the most revolutionary profession.
>>508245>Post source about spoiler. look it up. any source I post, you'll find a reason to dismiss it.
No.508253
>>508251>and as we know, policemen are the most revolutionary profession. And as we know, ukrainian policemen are russian millionaire plants.
No.508254
>>508252>The leaders of Kremlin-backed separatist republics in east Ukraine have been made members of President Putin’s ruling United Russia party amid escalating tensions over the Donbas conflict zone.
>Denis Pushilin, who heads the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR), and Leonid Pasechnik, who leads the Lugansk People’s Republic (LPR), were handed party tickets by Dmitry Medvedev, United Russia’s chairman, at its glittering annual congress in Moscow.https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ukraine-conflict-putin-invites-separatist-leaders-into-his-party-5wstpsw3hIf they're communists, why wouldn't they join the KPRF? 🤔
No.508255
>>508253True, if you're in a different country, you cannot be contacted or bribed.
No.508256
>>508255Answer me this.
Is Ukraine a sovereign nation?
No.508257
>>508247The West Is Best™, obviously
We're the Western Chauvinists, hey-o!
*big band music plays*
No.508259
>>508256what does that have to do with anything? you're basically saying that if someone is in the Ukrainian military police they are immune to foreign influence or bribery. your retort to "he's a Russian millionaire" is "impossible! he was a Ukrainian cop". both presidents have Russian citizenship and both of them are millionaires, therefore they're Russian millionaires.
No.508260
>>508258Think I got carried away with the glow soyposting and just had a Pavlovian response to the words "Ukraine" and "sovereign nation" now I read it back lol
No.508261
>>508260 (me)
>>508258 (me)
me btw
No.508262
>>508260>certain words trigger a heuristic response in binary thinking anonsyou don't say!
No.508264
>the German minority in Pol… uhh I mean the Russian minority in Ukraine is under attack!
VLADOLF PUTLER MOMENT
No.508265
>>508264This is all getting a little 1933-1945 for me (that's a history reference). What I'm saying is that Putin is Hitler.
No.508266
>>508247Ukraine has a mild interest in BRI to be honest, and that's why China cucked out on recognizing Crimea is Russia to this day.
No.508267
>>508256No.
The only sovereign nations on the planet are China Russia the Us Iran Israel and the DPRK.
Every other nation is cucked in a way or another.
(Many in multiple ways).
No.508268
>Draghi does not want sanctions on Russia to target SWIFT or energy sector
<Even their own handpicked assets are fucking them up
NATObros is it over for us?
No.508269
I'm living in Germany and the inflation on food is crazy. Now our cuck leaders wanna bow down to the USA, cancel Nordstream 2 and instead import even more expensive liquified gas from the USA. Our foreign minister said Germany is willing to make big economic sacrifices to counter Russia, as if she is the one making sacrifices and not us normal proletarians
No.508270
>>508268Who is talking about SWIFT? I thought all of NATO was on board with that being off the table.
>>508269Haha oh m8, don't worry they want to export ban the Chinese too, for reasons.
>>508101 No.508271
>>508219yet it seems telegram do not strip if you upload as files
either the evacuation was planned in advance, or telegram/some nato guys reuploaded it later.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AricToler/status/1494738571483353092?s=20&t=5FxAyvFvHAkAjjdADSwaRA No.508275
>>508270Us warhawks want to pull Russia off Swift. Nobody in Europe does want it though, as you pointed out.
No.508276
>>508269That's what you get for killing Rosa and supporting SPD&NSDAP over KPD
No.508278
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No.508279
>>508210>expels diplomat for no reasonlying by omission is so fucking vile, and braindead tiktok libs are going to deepthroat this shit and ask for more.
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