No.518514[Last 50 Posts]
BRRRRRRRRR EDITIONSIZZLE GANG
TO WATCH FOR NEWS:
https://liveuamap.com/Live updates from Texan commie boomer in Donbass:
https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTexacFor Russiabros, analysis from Boris Rozhin:
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/ (has a telegram, lots of cool stuff there too)
QRD
"Modern Ukraine was completely created by Russia," Putin says in speech to the nation“
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1495832687227068422Putin: "We are ready to show you what true de-Communization means to Ukraine."“
https://twitter.com/markmackinnon/status/1495833069676335104“PUTIN SAYS UKRAINE'S ADMISSION TO NATO IS A DIRECT THREAT TO RUSSIA'S SECURITY || NATO TRAINING CENTRES ESTABLISHED IN UKRAINE AMOUNT TO NATO MILITARY BASES“
https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1495840775082737664Putin says Ukraine is a "U.S. colony" with a "puppet regime"
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1495840971208429568“Russia claims Ukraine invaded Russia and says 5 Ukrainian soldiers were killed and two APCs destroyed near Rostov.
https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1495745864320831492Putin, in televised address on Ukraine crisis, talks about a "nationalistic virus" says 1991 collapse of Soviet Union saw Russia robbed
https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1495834881028411393“Putin: "Why did we have to transfer the rights to the territories that had been part of the Russian Empire?"“
https://twitter.com/markmackinnon/status/1495832267687669763PUTIN SPEECH WAS PRERECORDED:
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1495775697121517570Russia & Syria officially recognize LNR and DPR
https://mobile.twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1495845600834822147Syria recognizing LNR/DPR
https://twitter.com/the_ragex/status/1495847706555781123Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua likely to recognize the Donetsk and Lugansk republics shortly
https://twitter.com/the_ragex/status/1495850619487371265Putin Calls For Ukraine To Break Apart
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/russian-president-putin-ukraine-break-apart_n_6213d491e4b0ef74d724b3a0"President Biden will soon issue an Executive Order that will prohibit new investment, trade, and financing by U.S. persons to, from, or in the so-called DNR and LNR regions of Ukraine," Jen Psaki says following recognition by Putin of regions as "independent."
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1495858379243282434
>EU leadership @vonderleyen & @eucopresident say that bloc will react with sanctions "against those involved in this illegal act" of recognising Donetsk and Luhansk. >Suggests individual, targeted sanctions: not the big ol' war package that everyone has been talking up for weeks.https://twitter.com/HenryJFoy/status/1495853591764082700Communist Party of Russia has just endorsed Putin's call to recognise the DNR and LNR.
Zyuganov: "Look how zealous the Americans and British are now. They forced Ukraine to send almost all its troops to the Donetsk-Luhansk region. More than 100k in a patch of 40-50km."
https://twitter.com/pawelwargan/status/1495857447973572610 No.518515
>>518514>BRRRRRRRRR EDITIONGonna be a BRRRRAAAAPP edition soon since Ukraine is getting shitted on 👌🏿😂
No.518521
This is the 7777⁷777 thread
No.518523
>>518520>Indeed, nothing much has changed in the 100 years since Lenin wrote his analysis of imperialism: it’s still the same countries.But… Lenin deemed the Russian empire as imperialist.
No.518524
Every epsorts team I check on Twitter changed their pfp to Ukraine colors lmao.
Why are gamers like this?
No.518525
>>518522trips will the sexts
No.518526
>>518514>posting fake video game footage in OPgreat start
No.518527
>>518524took two wrong turns, gamers and twitter
No.518529
>The year is 1937
>Leftypol simps for the Japanese Empire to own the West
No.518531
>>777238
hell yeah, pimp
No.518532
>>777238
its not like we can do anything about this either way
No.518533
>>777238
Trot detected.
No.518534
>>777238
There is a war though.
No.518535
>>518529No leftlypol would simp for the KMT and call Mao and ultra leftist that needs to be killed.
No.518538
>>518536why u doxxing urself with reaction pic?
No.518539
>>518529Who would leftypol side with in the Russo-Japanese war? Keep in mind this was an explicitly racist war between "holy white Russia" and the "yellow peril"
No.518541
>>518535leftypol would probably just parrot the party line of the CPSU
No.518544
Instead of shooting where I was, you should have shot where I was going!
No.518545
>>518539The peasants that rebelled that year.
No.518546
>>518523And the G8 did contain Russia. Confusing text
No.518548
>>518523Lol, well that changed pretty soon after. But Roberts is actually asking the question. He seems to think that the BRICS countries are a much lesser class of imperialist countries.
No.518549
If there is a massive anti-war movement, with many communist will this show a disconnect from party leadership in places like Russia?
>Commie lead anti-war movement
>Overthrow Putin
>New socialist Russia pulls out of Ukraine
>Ukraine sides with new commie Russia after west isn't largely to blame for getting them in this
If ^ only
No.518550
Russian "communists" are more pro war than Russian nazis.
No.518551
>>518539Between the parties, given no other options, Russia was the worse imperializer and was carving up China at the time and participating in the Unequal Treaties. As such the Japanese would have been the lesser of evils.
Also, the defeat of Russia in large part lead to the 1905 and later revolution, so in a way the fact that the Japanese won was a great outcome.
No.518552
>>518549>New socialist Russia pulls out of Ukraine.That would be a bad idea anon, a socialist Russia would ensure that Ukraine also becomes socialist.
No.518553
>>518549This is why you never listen to any westerner's thoughts on Russia
No.518554
>>518550I've heard people claim the lead commie party of Russia, is united Russia fake oppression. this does make me wonder.
No.518555
some think russia is justified on the geopolitical stage, but that doesnt mean they would bleed for it
and majority think nato is responsible for the situation, but still criticize russia for going so far. Which doesnt mean "supporting" the corrupt state of ukraine either just cause its a defensive war.
in the end, the loosers are ukrainians proles first, and all proles in europe and russia second due to energy prices.
the best outcome : nato cucks out (and dont sanction gas), russia take ukraine with minimal casualties and donetsk communist take control of the country, nationalizing everything to gain popular support
No.518556
> Biden: "Putin want's to restore the Soviet Union"
Is this meant to scare the Ameriboomer?
No.518557
>>518550There are communists besides Zyuganov, even within the Communist Party
No.518558
>>518553Elaborate for me please?
No.518560
>>518529I do wish the Japanese Empire bombed more than one American harbor for real
No.518561
>>518556Yeah, communism bad so we should call putin communism
No.518562
Unless Putin comes to my house and personally takes away my Xbox and my internet, this whole thing is just a nothingburger.
No.518564
>>518555Get out of here with this nuanced position shit, everyone I don't like is an evil /pol/ tankie in love with putin and supporter of Imperial Japan, the nazis, the confoderacy, lord voldemort, etc.
No.518567
>>518556If his handlers didn't pull him out sooner he would start condemning General Secretary Putin for beginning Operation Barbarossa against Poland
No.518568
>>518529The year is 1914
Twitter and Reddit vote for war credits, support the SPD, French socialists and British Labour
No.518569
>>518548>>518520>>518523Even if you accept that Russia is exploited (which Roberts seems to imply here, but again its confusing), that would mean that Russia's government has for decades been cooperating with the West to exploit their own country. So much for Putin being an "anti-imperialist."
No.518570
>>518565The war started today literally.
No.518571
>>518560They did, people just only talk about the one harbor.
No.518573
>>518565threads go so fast, i barely saw a third of them
No.518574
>>518565Fuck the neoliberal status quo
change is good
No.518577
>>518568Meanwhile leftypol supports the German Empire in their valiant struggle against world spanning British imperialism lmao
No.518578
>>518563>no naval invasions or paratrooperslol, what a newb
No.518580
>>518571you know what I mean. It's no fun that the Japanese navy got owned so quick. It's certainly a bad outcome that most Americans didnt' see war on their own soil either and thus didn't need to recover afterwards. Japanese did some naughty shit, but I still critically support them in the US war.
No.518582
Are they doing a Market Garden at the Belarus border to Kiev?
No.518584
What's some kino WW3 type games I could play to set the mood for these times? I've already played Metro and please don't suggest COD.
No.518585
>>518575>Shilling the Russian chauvinist revision of Stalin’s actual politics>Calling out the actual Leninist position in a war like this as wrong>Shilling JesusKys
No.518588
>>518529But Japan was explicitly anti-imperialist, liberation of Asia from Western colonial rule was literally their goal. But imperialists were too afraid and tried to suffocate Japan with sanctions. Japan has endured, so they enacted this "Pearl Harbor" ruse.
Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere was the greatest organized anticolonial movement in the first half of the century.
No.518590
>>518587Over unless Kharkov falls tonight or the Belarusians link up near Kiev
No.518591
>The Japanese Empire was literally anti-imperialist
It’s always hard to tell if it’s actual retardation or just a meme with leftcom flags
No.518592
>>518574grinding civilians to red paste in the process however is not good. Idk if world walks out of this with accelerated decline of US imperialism and we will have less bloody interventions and wars in the future then this will have been an positive event.
No.518594
>>518572She can be my mommy if you catch my drift
No.518595
>>518588Fucking weebs go watch some anime or something, us smart retards are discussing geopolitics
No.518596
>>518572what the fuck is this dr seuss shit? libs never cease to bewilder me
No.518597
>>518575>Japanese did some naughty shit, but I still critically support them in the US war.Eh I don't know about that, the Japanese were slaying the Chinese en masse and were a fascist anti-communist power. I think we probably should coordinate with liberals before we coordinate with fascists.
No.518601
> EU unlikely to cut Russia off SWIFT for now, sources sayhttps://www.reuters.com/business/finance/eu-unlikely-cut-russia-off-swift-now-sources-say-2022-02-24/
> New U.S. sanctions on Russia mainly hit banks, miss energy sectorhttps://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/24/russia-sanctions-ukraine-invasion-00011431The Western response is pathetic. Iran is under harsher sanctions for doing nothing.
No.518602
>>518592Sucks but pretty big restraint from Russia at not causing civilian casualties. NATO would be nonstop bombing Kiev for the next two weeks
No.518604
>>518552Why not support direct action and duel power attempts in Ukraine at that point. Declare a new election let Ukrainians decide if by vote they choose to be west cucks and Nazi degenerates they can do that. (Fair election overseen by new communisy Russia) (military leaves after) If commie Russia returns they will be looking at prosperity while they continue the maiden decline. The Ukrainian people will want to be socialist at that point. Pulling out would be a being pr win for Communism. Pro-war stances only favor McCarthist craze.
No.518605
>>518599Flagfags love attention, they'd never leave this site.
No.518606
>>518599Kek told you so. Wasn't until tomorrow, but until later.
No.518608
>>518559HHAHAAHAHAHHAHAAH WTF IS THIS
No.518609
>>518591imperialism is when western interests and the westerner the imperialister
No.518610
>>518595You would be the bootlicker of French/British/Dutch colonialists during the East Asian anticolonial struggles would you?
No.518611
>>518605Yesss this, most of them are attention whores but in the lefty space, lol. of e-thots?, e-trots.
No.518612
HOLY SHIT RUSSIAN TROOPS ADVANCING TOWRDS THESE DIGITS
No.518614
>>518610I don't care about consistency in my politics
I am a simple man and simply hate US-imperialism
No.518615
Zizek comments
https://spectatorworld.com/topic/russia-rape-ukraine-inevitable/>It is easy to translate this situation into that of a rape. Russia, which is ready to rape Ukraine, claims it doesn’t want to do it — but between the lines it’s making it clear that, if it doesn’t get consent for sex from Ukraine, it is ready to commit rape (recall Putin’s vulgar reply). Russia also accuses Ukraine of provoking it to commit rape.
>The US, which wants to protect Ukraine from being raped, rings the alarm bells about the imminent threat of rape so that it can assert itself as the protector of post-Soviet states. This protectiveness cannot but remind us of a local mobster who offers stores and restaurants in his domain “protection” against robbery, with a veiled threat that, if they reject his protection, something may happen to them…
>Ukraine, the target of the threat of rape, tries to keep calm, nervous also at US alarm bells, aware that the uproar about rape can push Russia to actually commit rape No.518616
>>518569>"anti-imperialist."that word seems to be used for national bourgeoisies who want to take power for their selves from the hegemons, through capitalism/imperialism. I don't actually take too much offense to this ambiguity given that lower capitalism can actually be not imperialist (not "anti-" though.)
Russia is definietly exploited by other countries, Roberts or another economist had data that showed that they barely break even on net value extracted from other countries minus value extracted from them to other countries. The "imperialism is a world-system!" anon posted it once, but I haven't found it since then. China's net was very negative, the Western countries' was very positive.
No.518619
>>518588>Ignoring the USSR and Japan's rabid anti-communistKill yourself
No.518622
There's palm trees in Ukraine?
No.518625
>>518615This uygha is something else lmao
No.518626
>>518572Excellent take from Zizek as always
No.518630
>>518619Show me Soviet troops fighting French in Indochina.
No.518631
>>518622>There's palm trees in Ukraine?It's a video game (ARMA 3)
No.518632
<10000 firearms distributed to civilians in Kiev
Sounds desperate
No.518634
>>518632AAAA stop trying to co-opt the Yugoslav military doctrine, this is fucking suicide
No.518635
>>518615Zizek is like if any of us decides to go public, but with the same edgyness edgorlordgastic rhetoric.
No.518636
>>518615Zizek comin in wit da Freudian analysis ey yoooo sheeesh
No.518638
>>518619> rabid anti-communistAnd so what? Learn theory man. Iran is also very anticommunist but all anti-imperialist leftists support it because of it's positive role, Axis of Resistance fucks imperialists hard.
No.518639
Where are the front lines at? I've lost track since this morning.
No.518640
>>518592That's why the VDV should capture Zelensky and twist his arm until he orders all Ukrainian forces to stand down.
But westerners want their atrocity porn so he's arming volkssturm grannies in Kiev right now
No.518642
If you read this in his voice it's just perfect
No.518643
>>518630You mean the Viet Mihn?
No.518647
>>518630Show me based IJA troops fighting with Chinese Red Army troops against the West.
No.518648
>>777384
No he is right.
No.518649
Russian gambit to snag Kiev is finished. Ukrainians managed to retake the airport and capture the VDV elements there per Ukrainian sources
Russians will probably be forced to start taking the velvet gloves off now, they've only used a fraction of their forces and capabilities so far
No.518650
>>518641Care with LUM, they report official Ukrainian things and they are recurring to falsification.
No.518652
>>518559O SAY CAN YOU SEE?
No.518653
>>518638It sounds like you need theory and much history. But the better course for scum like you is a trip down a well
No.518654
CNN talking head nearly called the Ukrainian military "Afghan" lol. Same shit over and over
>>777283
thanks for translating
No.518656
The revolution will be televised just enough so you have a little idea of what is happening but no info about any specific details
No.518659
>>518643They were literally funded by the US to help the region to return to colonial exploitation. It backfired later of course and I support their efforts in liberating Vietnam, but Japanese would do the same eventually if they succeeded.
No.518660
>>518615Zizek is just Agent Kochinski with a PhD.
No.518661
>>518649Have seen no evidence of this, just that national guard elements are counterattacking
No.518662
>>518653You glow so much lol. Do you grieve for poor Israelis bombed by evil Palestinians?
No.518663
Friendly reminder that the communist movement in Russia has no interest in backing putin here. The only real call is class war from all sections of the proletariat against the national and international bourgeoisie. Right now the west is tuning up the McCarthism on how this is a revival of the "Soviet Empire" what do commies get from backing Putin's aims here? NATO expansion will have to be deterred communist Russia or capitalist. Still if the time is right for Communist to make the move on Putin THEY SHOULD.
No.518664
>>518660I doubt he's a pedophile so not too sure that comparison adds up
No.518665
>>518660He's much funnier than Voosh could ever hope to be
No.518668
>>518657>Russia is not imperialist>The sham of Ukranian nationalist identity will be swept aside >Russians and Ukranians will unite as brothers under one flag again>No war because NATO is a paper tiger>Ukranians no longer begging for scraps from imperialist west that doesn't care>Western media seethes as always>Xi and Putin become best brosthe future is bright lads
No.518669
>>518657leftypol dont care as long as at least 1-3 NATO soldiers die
No.518670
>>518649fugg
RIP to Ukrainian civilians if true. That was their only chance.
No.518672
>>518662I just want you to know that I despise people like you, and I can't wait until the war at home kicks off so you can be punished like the filth you are.
No.518675
>>518649Lmao. If this happened, all of western media would be spamed with images of defeated Russian soldiers
No.518676
>>518588BASED anti-imperialists holding rape and decapitaiton competitions in liberated Nanking
No.518677
>>518663Most of us are aware the question is if the situation will eventually develop in a way that can benefit potential mass organization, mobilization, and eventually a takeover hopefully
No.518678
>>518665I wonder if Zizek regrets his protest in Yugoslavia and is unhappy with the result. Or if Zizek instead doubled down and said that the break up of Yugoslavia was a good thing even despite the genocide and death and suffering.
No.518679
>>518671>probably devolve into World War 3First worlders are so fucking stupid
No.518680
>>518679t: doesn't have reading comprehension.
No.518681
>>518668How is ukrainian identity a sham? They have a language and culture just like russia….
No.518682
>>518668<no socialism mention anywhereDogshit idea of bright future
No.518683
>>518668Ukraine is the crib of Russians, dipshit
No.518684
tfw my porn artist is ukrainian and has to take a break to survive
No.518685
>>518641I can't get the damn thing to work
No.518686
>>518659The communist party in Russia supports the intervention in Ukraine tho, with the caviot that they wanna limit Russian intervention to Donbass alone
No.518687
>>518680I read it exactly right faggot
No.518688
>>518676Iranians and Russians are doing similar things and so what? In the end they all fight for the greater good, destroying the hegemony of Western powers. NATO does war crimes, USSR does war crimes, everyone does war crimes, that's just how the life goes.
No.518689
>>518687Ok, then explain what he meant with that.
No.518690
I want zizek to watch utena
No.518691
>>518679We were warned dude and it's happening.
No.518692
>>518684You can say furry here anon. It's ok
No.518693
>>518690i tried watching that show once but it got boring. last thing i rmemeber there was some dance and gaybaiting stuff. is it actually good or just weeb filler content?
No.518694
Pol thinks this is a psyop to shift focus from that canadian trucker convoy lmao
No.518695
>>518681Didn't expect to see Ukranian nationalists here kek
they have a slavic and their culture is also slavic
The idea that russians and ukranians should be separated is a lie to break up the slavic world
No.518697
100,000 Ukrainians have fled the country according to our national news, supposedly the numbers are sourced by the UN
No.518698
>>518694It never even began for /pol/fags
No.518700
>>518686No they aren't.
''''
The Communist Party of the Russian Federation proceeds from the need to dismantle the results of many years of banderization of Ukraine. The real policy on its territory is largely dictated by rabid nationalists. They terrorize the Ukrainian people and impose an aggressive political course on the authorities. “Caving in” under this pressure, Zelensky betrayed the interests of his fellow citizens, who elected him president of peace in the Donbass and good neighborliness with Russia.''''
The pressing imperative of the time was to force the Kiev provocateurs to peace and to curb the aggressiveness of NATO. Only the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine will ensure sustainable security for the peoples of Russia, Ukraine and all of Europe. No.518701
>>518691That the invasion will result in a significant and permanent shift in global dynamics that will create enough tensions for one of them to result in WWIII
And it's wrong
No.518702
>57 Ukrainians killed, another 169 were injured in the Russian invasion of Ukraine - according to the Ministry of Health
No.518705
>>518701And why is it wrong?
No.518706
Did the invasion slow down? We got a lot last night but this day it seems so slow.
No.518707
>>518529If the Japanese had won against the US in WWII the world would be way less dystopic than now.
No.518708
>>518688>they all fight for the greater goodgreater good = torturing/killing communists?
>destroying hegemony of Western powersjust to establish a new one?
whatever - what any of us think about this won't matter
it is out of our hands
first step of leftypol is to accept helplessness
No.518713
<Ukranians took back the damn airport near Kiev
>Its like the fourth time they break this news today
Lol, LMAO even
No.518714
>>518694They can't let the libs outcompete them, they have to make it about themselves even harder
No.518715
>>518706It's 10:48 pm in Kiev. The invasion started a bit before dawn.
No.518716
>>518677If the communist line in Russia after months of a dragging war is "screw it let's support Czar PUTLER" then some Western CIA backed lib astroturf color revolution will take the anti-war movement over there. If they correctly analyze this they can overtake the anti-war movement in the name of both the Ukrainian and Russian proletariat. Win massive international PR and show that this Russian military act is for the revival of czarist white army Russian empire desires.
No.518717
>>518713TBH why would the russians even do this. To intimidate Zelensky or some shit?
No.518719
>>518695I am not a nationalist
No.518720
>>518716that absolutely depends on how long the war will go
No.518721
>>518705Listen you fucking faggot I made fun of a retarded image, you accused me of poor reading comprehension, I proved you wrong, I'm not gonna turn this into an hours-long discussion about geopolitics when you're not even saying anything substantial. Kill yourself
No.518722
>>518708> greater good = torturing/killing communists?No, communists would eventually take up arms and destroy Japanes fascistic monarchy. Destroying colonial hegemony would fuel liberation movements and bring communism to the neglected countries of Asia.
No.518723
>>518702It was 40 a few hours ago along with 50 ruskies also dead
No.518724
>>518717They wanted to rush Kiev, and I wouldn't exclude that the 2nd wave of paratroopers will succeed.
No.518725
>>518668What makes Ukrainian national identity any more of a sham than Russian, German, Italian…?
No.518726
>>518721So you admit you're wrong and can't explain your reasoning?
No.518728
>>518717Probably to hit the government buildings, end the war quickly by taking the ministries and capturing Zelensky
If this is the one place Ukrainians actually win, this war will fucking drag on and way more people will die
No.518729
>>518716>Western CIA backed lib astroturf color revolution will take the anti-war movement No the FSK doesn't fuck around, the russian anti war movement is organic and will stay that way.
No.518730
I am reading the minsk deal and it seems like the biggest cuck out by Putin, why was it so bad?
No.518732
>>518724TBH this tactic looks like some sort of shit you would pull out in an African country with no material, not a country with explicit NATO support and an actual military (somewhat, At least it doesn't shit itself like the Iraqi one)
No.518734
>>518715More exactly the ops started exactly at 5:00AM, their time zone.
No.518735
>>518730Maybe he honestly thought diplomacy could work back then. Now we're here.
No.518739
>>518730Not sure what you mean, but all he wanted was the republics to be able to veto NATO expansion, which is why people thought there would be no huge invasion, just protection of the Donbas, but maybe full invasion was just more effective
No.518740
>>518736This is so sad, Alexa play Sacred war by the red army chorus
No.518741
>>518731Haz shows again his retardation because the argument Rosa is doing here is today rendered invalid by a century of existence of an Ukraine nation thanks to Lenin.
No.518742
Question, why does the Ukraine really need to take DNR and LNR? It's not like they're filled with tons of resources and they're relatively small compared to the rest of Ukraine, so what's the deal? What is NATOs opinion on the two republics? Do they recognize them? Does the UN recognize those republics? I still don't agree with the invasion but FFS why doesn't the UN actually have the balls to police Europe to actually protect and threaten war against ANY nation that undemocratically attempts to seize another nation?
No.518744
>>518733It's hilarious how all these hypocrite warmongers are coming out of the woodwork. lmao
No.518745
>>518729It is organic right now and the Communist movement can ensure it stays that way. Prolonged though and we get liberalism and the chance of western co-optation.
No.518746
>>518733Omg just go away obama pls
No.518747
>>518731i can't believe tsar putin is invading ottoman ukraine
No.518748
>>518742Ukrainian government is ultranationalist and borderline nazi while these regions are (were) highly industrialized thanks to the Soviets.
No.518752
>>518694they're just upset that their shitty event is immediately overshadowed by real news. either that or they really can't conceptualize anything happening without it relating to a grand conspiracy orchestrated to stop whatever it is they care about.
No.518755
>>518751Oh no the Gandi bomber was shot down
No.518758
>>518742The nationalist line was that the rebels arent a real force and are all russian agents , despite the minsk deal not mentioning russia( i guess that was the cuck out on ukraine's side)
No.518759
>>518742They don't actually need to but the US/NATO calls the shots
If Zelensky was allowed to do what he want he might have just let the eastern part go
No.518760
>>518753If WWII Japan could defeat America you’re suddenly talking about a country with a decent chance of defeating the USSR, not the actual Japanese Empire
No.518763
>>518549Ukraine win’t side with new commie Russia, but would let Nato pass through it to destroy it. And in the current conjuncture, while a commparty is welcome, you’re more likely to get a half-assed color revolution
No.518764
<Yemen map guy is going to make Ukraine maps
Absolute W
No.518765
>>518748Zelensky is literally jewish….
No.518767
>>518761he is right
this is ukraine's historical moment either literally to be made or to be broken
No.518768
>>518765So are the people who orchestrated Maidan. And?
No.518769
>>518762The church up in flames is absolute war time KINO
No.518770
Facebook is temporarily permitting users to praise the neo-Nazi Azov regiment of the Ukrainian National Guard if it defends against the Russian invasion
https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-battalion-russia/ Azov forces were previously banned from free discussion under the Dangerous Organizations policy
According to Facebook materials I reviewed, you can now post "Azov movement volunteers are real heroes," but you still can't post “Goebbels, the Fuhrer and Azov, all are great models for national sacrifices and heroism”
When I say "temporarily," I should have said "indefinitely"—there's no expiration date for this policy change. FB spokesperson told me "For the time being"
The Azov regiment is classified as a "Tier 1" dangerous organization under FB policy, alongside the likes of ISIS and the KKK. The group will still be barred from using FB to recruit
No.518772
>>518765tThe USA can't be racist because they elected a BLACK MAN as president, twice!
No.518773
>>518765You do know the nazis were also going to wipe out Ukrainians right? Going on and on about how they can't be fascist because they have 1 jew means nothing. Fascists are retards
No.518774
>>518759The meme thing is that the minsk deal never mentioned indepedent repubics just autonomus regions who whould have their own legal system not even a millitary
No.518778
Bros, we are all just libs larping as leftists
No.518781
>>518766critical support for retard haz
No.518783
>>518763Their will never be a good time for communism to come to power, their will always be Western intervention. Either opportunities are takes are get passed up on this is a potential opportunity.
No.518784
>>518780It's been like that for a while. Why so still?
No.518785
>Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Thursday pledged UK support for a Ukrainian government “in exile,” adding he had personally told President Volodymyr Zelensky that he and his cabinet may need to find a “safe place” to go amid the Russian attack on his country.
No.518788
>>518766>>518776You'd think trans people would be the last people in the world telling others how their physical characteristic determine your gender.
No.518791
>>518778actual leftists have very serious opinions!
No.518793
>>518780This is old, Russians are in Melitopol
No.518794
>>518739hmm maybe that was the deal dorce the paramillitaries to subjugate to ukraine but make it so ukraine isnt in nato
No.518796
Gas in Europe +60%, already $1636
No.518797
>>518775yes, libs are against wars that the US & allies are losing and for wars that the US is likely winning
No.518798
>>518765And? at present they want to murder the Russian hordes more than they want to murder one of the few jews who hadn’t left Ukraine. The Nazis left their tiny afro-german population alone before their, but that don’t mean they weren’t planning on getting to them next. It’s a question of priority
No.518799
>>518784It's been like 12 hours
they nomming
No.518800
>>518759>>518758Eastern Europe seriously needs a political revolution of the Latin American kind in order to escape this cycle of ultra nationalism or liberal puppet. They need an independent leader or leadership who could maintain sovereignty while also not being conservative ultra nationalists and at least being progressive "left wingers" of the Chavez or Morales type, that would be the greatest thing that could unite Europe and help them move on from this crap. But NATO would absolutely attempt to assassinate real opposition in Eastern Europe.
No.518801
>>518790but hitler himself was not a jew….zelensky is the leader of his country
No.518803
>>518615lol, thats actually not too bad if you forget the retarded rape analogy, it kinda forget the regime change though
some would say, nato sanctions dirtied the balls of russia
No.518804
>>518795I LOVE BASED KGB PUTIN NOW WOWDoes the red scare still work in burgerland?
No.518805
>>518765This is even more of reason to think he was afraid that the far right could coup him if he signed with Russia for peace in the east and never entering NATO. The day he said he opted out of Minsk 2 and said he wanted Ukraine in NATO and nuclear weapons the rubicon was crossed and armed confrontation inevitable. The whole point of Russia flexing their military was to present the alternative to Ukraine staying neutral, and of course some people here didn't believe they would invade because they are contrarian retards who don't understand geopolitics
No.518807
>>518794Yes, all they really care about is nato, whether those areas are independent or not. The border between Russia and Donbas was open anyways, it was already de facto Russian
No.518808
>>518800"uniting" europe means appeasing bourgeois class interests ultimately
No.518809
>>518514That military footage is fake, it is from the video game Arma 3.
No.518810
>>518795>Vladimir "Stalin was a totalitarian" Putin wants to restore the USSRlmao
No.518812
>>518615It's always about rape or coffee without cream with this nibba
No.518813
As of one minute ago, official Ukrop sources confirm Russia still has Hostomel despite reports the Ukrops captured it about ten times now
No.518815
>>518783Success is when preparation meets opportunity. Measure seven times and cut only once
No.518816
>>518765good for him and completely irrelevant
No.518817
>>518810Trotskyist Putin
Trotskyist Putin
No.518818
>>518795Hey I know what will combat this narrative Russian communist supporting Russian invasion! Certainly can't oppose NATO and putin nope no can do!
No.518819
>>518700Yeah, as I said, they don't support THIS kind of intervention, but they do support the government in supporting Donbas, if that makes sense.
No.518820
>>518788Probably internalized all that you aren't man enough shit and then bought into the "just become a woman" meme.
No.518821
>>518615Why people take this fat slovenian pervert seriously, I do not know
No.518824
>>518766So we're pro Haz now? You know what? I'm gonna take this as just one retard samefagging.
No.518825
>>518817And you know what happened to Trotsky, don't you?
No.518827
>>518822>Stalinist<PostmodernI guess words have completely lost meaning in 2022
No.518829
>>518819What the communist wanted was the Serbian intervention but Russia style, not straight out bomb and occupy all of Ukraine in order to "decommunize it" and bring it back as it was during the Tzarist times.
No.518830
>>518778Wrong. There is exactly one true leftist, me. :)
No.518831
Do we have actual russians or ukrainians ITT that can tell us what's up? What's the general sentiment among people like? I really don't believe that the entirety of russia agreed to this just because putin said so, beyond cucked.
No.518832
>>518813>10+ victories alreadyneo nazi chads stay winning. how could putin hope to compete?
No.518833
>>518831the only Ukranon we have already left the country
No.518834
Igor Strelkov claims there is no resistance at all at Crimean front.
This is insane
No.518835
>>518830Cockshottian Egoist with Maoist characteristics CHAD…. I KNEEL
No.518836
>>518808When I say unite I mean no wars over borders crap that happens I'm Eastern Europe.
No.518837
>>518829Yes, that's what I said initially.
No.518838
>>518811Their air force took the L hard
This is from the one that defected to Romania
No.518839
>>518795The education level of the president of the United States, ladies and gentlemen.
No.518840
>>518825His legacy survives trough dozens of internationals, dozens! Can you say the same stalinist?
No.518841
>>518761he has a point though, the Russian empire at the time was known for intervening in Eastern and central Europe to strike down the revolutions of the 1840s, such as the Hungarian one. Marx and Engels saw clearly that any Revolution in Europe was going to fail if a powerful russia could just intervene and crush it.
No.518842
>>518813I mean, it's probably gonna get cleared out tomorrow morning.
There's literally no supplies, and they will get out of ammunition soon enough, even if they're the most experienced Spetnaz, you can't do shit if you don't have supplies.
Quite a retarded move by the russian military tbh, this is the shit that France does to under-developed countries in Africa, not a country which have had NATO training and supplies for years.
No.518843
>>518831I am American living in Russia, most Russians I've talked to today think it's pointless but a lot also say Russia is in the right, even if they don't really support the war (if that makes sense). It's a very Russian stance.
No.518844
>>518831They don't want war because war sucks, it's that simple. Human beings aren't that suicidal.
No.518845
>>518822>Gomunism is, when you invade country as Russian gubbermint. The more you invade, the gommunister it getsI hate this framing so much! Libs will eat it up and ultimately
we will be losers of this whole ordeal.
No.518846
>>518841This was still a part of the "Holy alliance" established by Russia, Prussia and Habsburg Monarchy
No.518847
>>51883140% of Russians opposed the recognition of the republics, thousands were detained during the anti-war protests.
No.518849
>>518838How does that happen? Shouldn't they have mobilized as soon as Putin recognized the republics?
No.518854
>>518845But if you state this as a good thing, then it makes you based instead of a lib or an ultra.
No.518855
>>518765who tf cares if Zelensky is jewish and russophone? Zemmour is a literal Algerian Jew, Israel literally does fash shit as a hobby,…
being jewish or part of a minority is in no way a disqualifier
No.518857
>>518845Calm down, it's just one Russiaboo Putin Duginist imperialist dick sucker. It's always like this in leftypol, there's always just one guy or two making it seem like this entire website has become pro imperialist or PatSoc or whatever schizo crap is trending.
No.518858
>>518678pretty unhappy iirc
No.518859
When will the Ukrainians surrender?
No.518860
>>518850>Bringing out the Katyusha'sShit's fucked bruhs.
No.518861
>>518831The rusanons I know of don’t like Putin and certainly aren’t willing to die for him, but also recognize NATO aggression against them and the liberals in Europe all cheering for their blood. They’re stuck between a hard place and a rock
The one possible outcome that I hope to happen, NATO backs down, Ukraine stays neutral, and this all happens with as little bloodshed as possible, depends on the as of now confirmed consumption that no one is willing to die for Ukraine
No.518862
>>518860<Tos are KatyushasOh you're so naif anon
No.518863
>>518851This. One of the most successful fascist states today is Israel, so yeah.
No.518864
>>518859Give it 2 months, or maybe even 4.
The more prolonged this conflict becomes, the more possibilies there is of a communist revolution in Russia.
No.518866
>>518862Ok then what the fuck are they.
No.518867
>>518681some of my regions also do, they're still not a nation
but tbf, no idea on this particular issue, just that "language and culture" is far from the only thing relevant
No.518868
>>518860Kayusha's that literally suck the air out of your lungs and use it to burn you alive.
No.518869
Dengists/Duginists/Vlasovites better enjoy their high while it lasts, LOL. Because, This is the last gasp of Great Russian Chauvinism and the beginning of the End of Putinist Russia, 🤣. Hopefully, the Workers of the Ukraine and Russia will use this Bourgeois Imperialist Russian aggression and the resultant collapse of Putinist Russia as a opportunity to wage a Protracted People’s War against their Bourgeois governments and embrace Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the highest stage of Marxism!
No.518870
Bros is Zelensky the worst president ever
No.518871
Kekking at this Arma vid tbqh, find it really funny it gets passed off as real for some reason
No.518872
>>518866Thermobaric bombs launchers
No.518873
oh
No.518875
>>518869im gonna go ahead and wait for that to happen
No.518878
>>518860They fucking asked for it
Either the VDV takes Zelensky or Kharkov is leveled as an example
Putin has shown restraint thus far but his patience is finite.
No.518879
>>518861Russia is going to take over Kiev in a week or less, they will replace Zelenski and his people with Russia dick sucker puppets and hopefully NATO won't do shit but seethe to themselves and impose toothless sanctions.
No.518880
Any other anarcho-putinists here?
NO KINGS NO RULERS! (except putin)
ABOLISH THE UKRAINIAN STATE!
No.518881
Macron is pathetic
No.518882
>>518790bookmarked.
>>518765Schindler was a jew, worked for the nazis.
No.518883
RUSSIANS REACHED BERDYANSKhttps://twitter.com/Karmabash/status/1496956410759983108I said Mariupol by tomorrow evening but it could happen by tomorrow morning
No.518884
>>518869King lear while I agree with this in principle how will guerrilla warfare work in countries that are mostly urban with little mountainous terrain?
No.518885
>>518869If that is the ultimate outcome of all of this, everyone wins
No.518886
>>518839more like the education level of the nation, most people here think russia is still the USSR
No.518887
I really don't get why you guys aren't getting this. Their is no push in Western Media to blame Putin for his whitist Russian empire reactionary desires. This is all neo-soviet aggression, the narrative is this is occuring as the fallout of socialist violence. This is a primer for a nationalist McCarthist red scare. Watch how the libs back a fascist push over imagined enemies? Watch as they ignore Putin's real efforts and ideology. Oh and commies of Russia oughta let themselves be smeared by it right? Horseshoe autism at work no the Soviets didn't defeat the Chauvinist white fascist no they continued czarist Imperial needs. Its the molotov-ribbentrop pact all over again
No.518888
>>518884Russia has plenty of hinterland you can escape into
No.518889
>>518886People who think that are either 50 years in the past or 50 years in the future.
No.518890
Am I the only one who is really fucking sad by how this is developing?
War's fucked up, man.
No.518891
>>518883Yeah this correlates with the reports of no resistance on the Crimea front
No.518892
>>518878What "they" you bloodthirsty piece of aborted placenta?
No.518893
>>518730>>518730he only wanted guarantee of no nato in ukraine. And he really tried
No.518894
>>518888That only works when you have people living there
No.518895
>>518886yeah cause this site is mostly burgers
>>518878>What the fuck is wrong with you you moron No.518896
>>518892The Ukrainian government who wants to recruit grannies into a Volkssturm so CNN reporters stationed throughout Ukraine's cities can get their Nielsen ratings porn
No.518897
>>518869This is so going to happen.
No.518898
>>518890There are some other actual human beings on this site, friend!
No.518899
>>518878what is he, fucking darth vader? write better apologia
No.518900
>>518784>for a whliebitch it took the Germans a week to punch through initial Polish defenses and even a weakened Iraqi army took a month to subjugate
No.518902
Ukrainian Army vs Afghan Army
who would lose fastest?
No.518904
Embedding error.
>>518828Thoughts and prayers for the burning church
No.518905
>>518895by here, I meant in the US, not leftypol
No.518907
>>518848>>518828>>518853Kill yourselves you fucking amerilards. Churches as an architectural patrimony are invaluable.
No.518910
>>518890Yeah, it does hit kinda weird. I totally get the liberal instinct to get outraged. It does sadden me that it's come to this.
No.518913
>>518879If that happens, it certainly pushes down NATO, but how will it make communist revolution happen?
No.518914
>>518908Sison being based? More likely than you think
No.518916
>>518890Yeah I felt bad, but they I got blind-sided by an Applebee's advert, and now I don't know how to feel
No.518917
I really hope Zelensky surrenders before this gets really serious for Ukrainian civilians. Their bloodthirsty government really wants Russia to do a highway of death, what with the CNN reporters pre-positioned throughout their cities.
No.518918
the itg shit is leaking
No.518920
>>518918Should be sent to another board
No.518921
>>518907Tell that to LatAm, liberal soy
No.518923
>>518850>>518850Holly katyuskas.
No.518924
>>518915please keep that two retweet moron in ITG
No.518925
CNN person says America will help the civilians to fight back? lmao
>>518912ukraine army on suicide watch
No.518926
>>518915He actually yelled it out loud on stream as he wrote it so it's an accurate translation.
https://tv.leftypol.org/r/bloodcast No.518927
>>518915LOOK AT THE PICTURE!!! See the skull, the part of bone removed, the "master-race" Frankenstein radio controls, the Brain-thoughts Broadcasting Radio, the Eyesight Television, the Frankenstein Earphone Radio, the Threshold Brainwash Radio, the latest new skull reforming to contain ALL Frankenstein Controls, even in THIN skulls of WHITE PEDIGREE MALES! Visible Frankenstein controls! The synthetic nerve-radio directional antennae loop! Make copies for yourself! There is NO ESCAPE from this worst gangster police state, using ALL of the deadly gangster Frankenstein controls!
No.518928
>>518915Loooool Hakim's take is absolutely reasonable. Haz, a communist should never actively root for nationalist war lel
No.518929
>>518927real francis e dec esq hours
No.518930
>>518928The fact that is reasonable is literally the problem Haz has with it.
No.518931
>>518927 I write DEMANDING a re-hearing of my worse-than-lowest Deadly Gangster police state Criminal Conviction which appeal case was in your farce Deadly Gangster ghetto-Communist Gangster Computer God-manipulated Gangster Court! Below, I state some of the many REASONS for said re-hearing, plus all of my evidence the Attorney General chicanerously forwarded to the Bar Association Grievance Committee for prosecution of felon Gangster mafionic negroidic the BLACK Frank Gulotta - a Gangster Judge, therefore un-prosecutable! The blackish menial negroidic-in-apperance-and-demeanor felon vicious Parroting Puppet ex District Attorney Nassau County with NO private law experience, DETESTED by all factions. In spite of this, SOLELY because of his many year secret gangsterization and crucifixion of ME,
No.518932
>>518901Mass deception of narrative is already occuring. The narrative is this, Russia is renewing the old Soviet Empire. Their is no discussion on Putin's reactionary ideals. Basically the Western Media is purposely acting like the czarist Russian empire and the USSR, where the exact same with the same Russian gene for conquest. This is a dangerous lie like Nazis and Soviets being the same is. The white reactionary and Nazi are simblings of each other. They are doing more horseshoe theory to push more red scare fears.
No.518933
>>518930Haz is a leftist lol cow a funny one don't get me wrong but I would hope that he stays out of important shit like this.
No.518934
>>518915where is the lie in hakim's tweet ?, this emotional putinbitch boy is not thinking with his head, and i'm with russia in this one.
No.518935
>>518926He just deleted it because he's afraid of getting reported. He's coming up with the second attempt RN.
>>518926 No.518936
>>518928it is milquetoast moralising and this use of "oligarchs" screams jimmy dore succdem discourse, looking to branch out? i saw that he now has a podcast with popular leftist youtubers. whats next, a patreon?
No.518937
>>518928A Russian victory would be better than a NATO victory. No war would be the best outcome, but we don’t have that luxury anymore.
No.518939
Critical support
No.518940
>>518906those shockwaves though o.O
No.518941
>>518915Haz Karl Kautsky confirmed.
No.518942
>>518915>Haz calling Hakim, an Iraqi, a Baizuolmao
No.518943
>>518942Does he live in Iraq?
No.518945
>>518936This guy lived through the occupation of Iraq and continues to work as a physician, do you think he supports NATO 94 something?
No.518946
>>518900They got so far in just half a day. Why not finish this in 3 days?
No.518947
Watching the HAPPENING is fun, until the HAPPENING comes to your doorstep.
No.518950
>>518936>>518937I think no matter who you think is the aggressor, it is accurate to say that the fact that it has come to this and that workers are being pitted against each other is a tragedy, even if it is a necessity. I should be seen as a failure of organization ultimately.
No.518951
>>518943As far as I'm aware, yeah, although I think he did some studying abroad, but you'd have to ask him
No.518952
Rolling for 2029 KPRF uprising and end of Russian capitalism.
No.518953
>>518945no i just think its a boring take
haz is advancing the dialectics
No.518956
>>518936Dude here a communist who unironicly has been putin translator talks about russian oligarchs
No.518958
>>518943Yes
>>518915>man that had a missile hit his house doesn't like warwow shocking, what a baizou
No.518959
>>518907malding that fucking carabineros catholic church of all places gets burned down because
> Churches as an architectural patrimony are invaluable.Are you really?
No.518961
>>518902Afghans. At least the ukrops are putting up a fight
No.518962
Rolling for Maoist uprising russia 2024
No.518963
>>518952>2027 >2029you Uyghurs disappoint me how about by 2024?
No.518965
>>518953shoot yourself and stream it retard
No.518966
>>518950Tragedies happen every day, man.
>>518953>Advancing the dialecticsWhy is this phrase used the most by pseuds?
No.518968
>>518956Hakim speaks Russian? Very cool
No.518971
>>518968Iirc his father was a member of the Iraqi communist party and studied in the USSR.
No.518972
Will Ukraine be seething about this for the next 100 years just like they do with the hololomorz?
No.518973
>>518954Welp, sorry Russia comrades, y'all won't be able to dodge this draft. Prepare to die for nothing.
No.518974
>>518972but one is real and the other aint
No.518975
>>518968Not hakim a commie writer in my country who is considered pro russian, so no advocating against imperialist wars isnt the same with being a cia uyghur
No.518977
>>518966>Tragedies happen every day, man. I think Hakim knows that given that he grew up in Iraq. What happens everyday is middle class Americans like Haz or Voosh shilling for senseless violence they never had to experience in a far away country from their comfy suburban homes.
No.518978
>>518972how many people had died?
No.518979
>>518973>Russia comradesuh, bro, this is from the ukraine…
No.518980
>>518954lololol
but muh evil ruski
No.518981
>>51897813k over the last eight years, if this kills 1/10th to end it, it might be worth it
No.518982
>>777755
>draft of enemies:slave soldiers
>draft of alies like Ukraine: glorious defence of the nation
that how it is in the burger mind
No.518983
never trusting you guys ever again. i was told everything was just propaganda by you faggots, now i look like a retard because i told everyone that putin would never invade and that the intelligence reports couldn't be trusted. think i'm just going to stop caring about politics, find a wife, work at a bank, have 1.9 kids and then talk to other boomers about the weather while riding a golf cart, and then die at 82.
No.518987
War result: Ukrainazis get their throtes clogged with literal shit!
No.518988
>>777777
NO WAR BUT THE CLASS WAR
No.518989
What would happen if capital succeeded in smashing the Republic of Soviets? There would set in an era of the blackest reaction in all the capitalist and colonial countries, the working class and the oppressed peoples would be seized by the throat, the positions of international communism would be lost.
sad posting hours, just praying to god (if there's one) that civilians and forced conscripts don't get slaughtered because of inter-imperialist infighting.
War's truly the worst thing there is, and the reason why we must fight against capitalism, so our kids and grandkids don't have to watch all of this shit, so that we can achieve what the soviet time-capsule thought we would have nowadays.
No glory, no liberty to opress the other.
Just one country, one in which humans are both free and safe in a global republic of friendship and labour.
The labour of today is the one that Lenin took, not because we wanted it, but because it's our historical necessity.
Sorry for being melodramatic, but this is serious, it's our life, and it will be one of struggle and injustice.
btw rolling for a communist take-over of the European Union because of quality of life getting into the gutter in 2032.
No.518991
xi
No.518992
If you want to understand the situation better, come read Lenin's
The Right of Nations to Self-Determination with us.
>>>/edu/9279 No.518993
vladolf putler moment
No.518994
suomi :DDDDDD
No.518995
do you guys think if we called the communist parties co voosh would support them
No.518999
This is the end of NATO. Taiwan is next. Russia probably wont survive the next 20 years. Interesting times are coming. I love the 20s.
No.519001
>>518983>GrillpilledThe most based thing you can do tbh
No.519004
>>518988defeating nato
is class war
No.519005
>>518988based!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No.519006
>>518989congrats on the get!
No.519011
>>518983KEK that's on you
>>518988epic bro
No.519013
Is there any way for Russia to avoid an extended occupation of Ukraine? An extended occupation would be a repeat of all the US' mistakes of the last 20 plus years and be a huge boon to Ukranian Nazis.
No.519015
>>518989Only good post here.
=IF YOU DIPSHITS ACTUALLY WANNA READ LENIN COME OVER TO >>>/edu/9279 WE READING CHAPTERS 5-10 OF RIGHT OF NATIONS TO SELF DETERMINATION SATURDAY AT 2 PM ATLANTIC STANDARD TIME=
No.519023
>>519002Not yours, bitch.
No.519024
>>518977Yeah, but is this violence senseless or inevitable?
Putin literally was willing to cooperate with NATO and had done so multiple times in the past, provided NATO left the Russian sphere of influence alone. And NATO did not. Putin’s an anticommunist reactionary, but NATO has no one but itself to blame for the violence that’s happening
No.519030
>>519021tenth time this airfield got captured and recaptured.
No.519032
>>519021why didn't they salt it?
(metaphorically, you jerk)
No.519034
>>519026>NATO>just a regular bourgeois alliance, and not the modern Antikomintern paktumpseud moments
No.519036
>>519004To defeat NATO we gotta defeat capitalism imperialism and the violence it brings won't stop till then
FUCK WHITE REACTIONARY PUTIN
FUCK NATO
FUCK UKRAINE NAZIS
CONVINCED! this board would support the national bourgeoisie in WW1 over the international proletariat.
No.519038
>>519036Shut the fuck up already.
No.519039
>>518983bruh there were still some of us saying shit was going to go down regardless of if you think it's le baysed or not
No.519041
>>519036>to defeat NATO we have to defeat NATO's enemiespseud
No.519042
>>519036>this board willpost discarded
No.519044
What are the betting odds on who will win?
No.519045
>>518859Volunteers like the Azov and Right Sector guys will fight till the bitter end, the conscripts are already surrendering.
No.519046
>>518972I was thinking about this too. This national humiliation will be the backbone of Ukrainian identity for the next century lol
No.519047
>>519040I thought it was a friend or foe visual cue since both sides use the same equipment.
No.519051
>>519034I hope you realize that prior to Barbarossa it was literally the Comintern's position that the Anglo-German war was an inter-imperialist conflict that communists should not take sides in.
No.519056
>>519045Talk is that Azov has been decimated already
No.519057
>>519038I'm good sorry you sleep around with campism!
No.519058
>>519045>nazis die and normal citizens fleewell thats kinda cool in this shit situation
No.519060
>>519051>prior to Barbarossait's almost as if almost 100 years have passed, pseud king
No.519061
>>519044at the start probably 90 russia 10 ukraine, but after the recent russian humiliations i'm thinking it's 50/50
No.519062
>>519038>>519041Samefagging Putinists.
No.519063
🇵🇱 🤝 🇺🇦
national identity built around losing
No.519064
>>519040Not sure, other sources say that's to identify the equipment. The V in some means they are coming for Belorrusia, apparently.
No.519065
>>518989based and humanpilled post
No.519068
>>518981> if this kills 1/10th to end itLook at the casualties in the last years
No.519069
>>518983I have talked to exactly zero people about this.
Its not happening until normies bring it up in conversation.
No.519071
>>519053>>>/ITG/now if it were chucky D or flavor flav
No.519072
>>519067yeah, Marxism stopped in 1883 when Marx died
No.519074
>>518940>those shockwaves though o.OIt uses thermobaric explosives. When it blows, it first sprays a fine mist of liquid explosive fuel that "breathes" the oxygen in the air, and then the fuel mix is detonated a few moments later. This type of explosive is a lot more energy dense because it does not contain it's own oxygen supply. The fuel mist is sprayed over a large area and that couples the kinetic energy from the explosion more efficiently with air around it. In other words this kicks a lot harder, and that's why those small boy missiles make big boy shockwaves.
No.519075
Petition to filter the word "pseud" to "communist comrade".
No.519076
>>519066Nice change of vpn
No.519078
>>519076>Nice change of vpnYour IP doesn't affect the (you)s it's based on the browser.
No.519081
russia has already lost more planes and helicopters than the US did in 1990 and 2003 combined. not looking good
No.519084
>>519060You're the one who brought up the anti-comintern pact, as if that's somehow relevant to this situation.
No.519085
>>519077>>519077I just want you to shut the fuck up already.
You're crearly a schizo who argues in bad faith.
No.519086
Soleimani has been seen in the Donetsk-Ukrainian border coordinating coming offensives with DPR militias
No.519090
>>519081Ukraine has a functioning anti air system, so was to be expected.
No.519092
>>519085That's called "being trolled", anon. The cure is to stop feeding.
No.519094
putins talmudic empire is collapsing. he'll for sure rope himself within the next month, kyiv was supposed to be captured by now.
No.519095
epic number oh em gee
No.519096
>>519091
what a joke
No.519098
>>519081Nice dubs
If we're really lucky the Azov Battallion gets murdered and also Putin loses the war, making him lose legitimacy, causing the communist party to once again be the dominant within Russian politics.
That would be a super win-win
No.519099
>>519094The Ukrops are the Jew puppets though
No.519100
>>519075but there are indeed pseuds. sabotard is one, lenintard is other, king lear is another.
No.519101
>>519094>talmudicexcuse me? Putin Khan is clearly a Pan-Mongolist
No.519102
>>519092The cure to it is for the faggot to be banned on sight. Literal CIA handbook on psyops
No.519106
putinsisters what the fuck is going on???? why are we struggling so hard with kharkiv????
No.519108
>>519103do we have an update on that flight? it's been hours
No.519113
>>519098another win is he winning, but he loses enough support to keep up on the government, the Communist party becomes dominant, win and use the puppet status of Ukraine to put communists in power.
No.519114
>>519108Shot by multiple SAMs but very light damage, the Hindustani warriors and their planes are protected by Shiva
No.519115
>>519106I think you meant to say Kharkov
No.519116
>>519100The only pseuds are the people who come up with ridiculous contrived excuses for why we should take sides in conflicts between the two factions who jointly murdered the USSR.
No.519118
>>518988o777777777777777
Hasta la victoria Comandante!
No.519119
>>518547 >>518535Except for the fact that Mao wanted to ally with Chiang and Chiang was overthrown in a coup by another member of the Kuomintang so they would ally with Mao.
No.519120
>>519113what a shitty scenario
No.519121
>>519116See, that's why you are a pseud.
No.519124
>>519116>take sideshow? by shitposting on a message board?
grow up kid
No.519125
>>519117=Holy fuck guys Zelensky just quoted Adolf Hitler==
No.519129
when will ukraine surrender?
No.519131
>>519122putinsisters what the fuck????? this was supposed to be a steamroll
No.519132
>>519123>a handful of pows for several hundred square kilometersGood chance Kiev will be reached by March
No.519133
>>519122why are there no bodyparts
No.519134
Did anything significant happen during the last 6-7 hours? I haven't been paying attention
No.519135
>>519124>It's only a joke bro>I'm only pretending to be retarded broGo to /siberia/ then
No.519140
As of right now there still is no Ukrainian resistance on the Crimean front. All of the fighting on the East and North is basically irrelevant
No.519141
I support a multi polar world, I support defeating NATO! I don't have to support white anti-communist like Putin seethe about it. I critically support Russia to get this multi polar world but I'm not under any illusions on the state of post Soviet Russia. When you back this dude you back the people that sold out the Soviet people and brought this darkest reaction. So no I'm not apologizing. Go ahead take Ukraine Putin take Taiwan Xi good! let's not act like this isn't catastrophic for the world proletariat. If communism grows from the ashes of war we shouldn't wish for ashes cynically. I'd would have thought that's be common sense. I understand capitalism is behind this violence we sit at spectacle. Still have to support the prole form this violence accelerationism is broke without organization.
No.519142
>>519122>>519123Yup, this is gunna take a few months as others have said before. The Russian army may have lost steam.
No.519143
>>518649Heh…nice try Ukrops…but I only used 10% of my powers…..KAMEEEEEE HAMMEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAA
No.519144
>>519129they wont
they just issued a draft
fucking retarded gay "country"
No.519146
>>519127In this picture is communism
No.519147
>>519136the people who imperialize ukraine aren't any better than the ones who imperialize Syria.
No.519148
>>519128Based post on the left, stark video on the right.
Morontard will rant about muh sides.
No.519149
>>518649Great. So the conflict will last many months and kill tens of thousands of people.
No.519150
>>519134Khokhols have declared they would send all Russian citizens living in Ukraine to concentration camps
No.519151
>>519141Its sinple in the west we focous against the nato not for the russian bouj
No.519153
europeans really out there bombing each other while us americhads are comfy and playing ELDEN RING
No.519155
>>519130ukraine fans does not have much to be happy so ciclejerking over a single battle is enough huh.
No.519157
>>519140All fronts matter and the necessity of the russian army is to conquer Kiev (the capital) and Kharkov (the second most important city of Ukraine behind Kiev)
Meanwhile the advances at the Crimean frontier have been quite excellent for the russian army, it's nonetheless not that important for the great scheme of things.
>>519142As said, don't fall for the hype. The war is going to be 2 to 4 months in length.
No.519160
>>519142Do people think that Putin wants to militarily occupy the entirety of Ukraine or something? Or that it would be a straight route to Kiev?
How much time has even passed?
No.519161
>>519154only good take in 20 some threads
No.519163
>>519136>NATO = RussiaNot what I said, but neither are our friend.
>>519121t. Opportunist
No.519165
>>519154war does not decide who is right but who is left
and proletariat are base of society
so total war would only leave proletariat
dialectics
No.519166
>>519130jerking off to his corpse. what a pathetic retard, imagine dying for no reason. rot in hell you zoglet
No.519167
>>519157the capture of the black sea coast halts ukrainian wheat exports, putting a massive strain on their economy, it might unironically force them to the negotiating table as oligarchs start to kvetch
No.519168
>>519163>t. Opportunistit is not you who suffers this shit.
You cockless pseud.
No.519169
>>519078intredasting, is it cookie/session data or something
No.519170
>>519157they will be linking up with the Donbass front by morning at this rate
No.519171
>>519160Russia needs to occupy the most important places in roder to force the ukrainians to surrender.
It's goverment is put in place to resist as much as possible by NATO's request.
No.519172
>>519159Russia's current ruling clique and NATO worked together to destroy the USSR. They are governed by fundamentally the same forces. Any conflict between them in the long term amounts to nothing more than a redivision of the world between profit hungry porkies.
No.519174
https://twitter.com/neilphauer/status/1496964939034120195Reports from Ukrainian defence officials that a Russian bombing raid will hit Kyiv at 3AM
No.519175
>>519137time for Volkssturm already?
No.519176
>>519171>It's goverment is put in place to resist as much as possible by NATO's request.correct, so they can do a shitshow of what happens next. Russia gonna hammer hard tonight.
No.519177
>>519168You're right, it's innocent proles in both Russia and Ukraine who suffer. For some reason you seem to enjoy their suffering, and are happy to see their bourgeois regimes to wage wars from which no worker can benefit.
No.519180
>>519142Uh no lol. Kiev is going to fall before the weekend is over. If anything, the Russian offensive has not begun in earnest.
No.519181
>>519172>Russia's current ruling clique and NATO worked together to destroy the USSR.It's almost as if it turned out that NATO will not have Russia among its ranks and now Russia is allied with China, lead by a communist party, while Russia itself has the communist party as second, supporting denazifying Ukraine.
But sure, "both sides are wrong".
P S E U D No.519182
>>519169vpn saves memory on the browser you use, which is mostly gonna be chrome, which is often signed in with ur google account
No.519183
so it's really happening, huh… next weeks gonna be a doozy
No.519186
>>519151As long as Russians can fight Their bourgeoisie too? Of course we need a anti-war movement in the west to dismantle NATO. I support anything that fucks up NATO! NATO decline means war, that war should be done by the international proletariat not inter-imperialist conflict. Tell me where do the proletariat jump in? how much inter-imperialist conflict is enough to say it's time? If we can't seize the opportunities of the multi polar world and only get its inter-imperialist violence what's to cheer?
No.519187
not going to lie i didn't expect russia to face this much resistance. ukraine hasn't even initiated operation KXV yet. not looking good for us putinsisters……. trust the plan…. we will get through this!
No.519188
>>519113All the liberals that are now screaming about getting rid of Putin will regret it if as a result communists retake power and actually go about restoring the Soviet Union. They have forgotten that Russian communist throw down a lot harder than Putin.
No.519189
>>519179Is that NANO sieverts per hour? Top kek fucking germs
No.519193
>>519182Even in browsers with no sign in it's the same. It's probably a cookie or something.
No.519194
>russia is not going to invade, it's all western lies!!!
No.519195
>>519180>>519142Ok so now that I see what you are responding to, the unseriousness of your reply is obvious.
No.519196
>>519177>For some reason you seem to enjoy their sufferingSee what you do, cornered, you use this strategy, as always and last resort, ad hominems, weak arguments, and false equivalences.
>and are happy to see their bourgeois regimes to wage wars from which no worker can benefitThe only always happy to presume some intellectualism is you whenever you brought your revolutionary defeatism as some sort of weird 0 sum game for the people when these people suffered for the imperialist aggressor that NATO is and deserves siding.
No.519198
>>519194The westoid fears the maskirovka
No.519199
>>519192russia fears nothing more than the BLACK TVRK WARRIOR. KARA BOGA.
No.519200
>>519172A divided and weakened bourgeoisie is good for the communist movement
No.519202
>>519194That was true until they launched sanctions in spite of no invasion. They shot first and made Russia less to lose, it's their own fault.
No.519205
>>519201TRUST THE PLAN
TWO MORE WEEKS
No.519206
>>519200Indeed, but this doesn't change the fact.
No.519207
>>519201Naval is stupid as fuck. I seriously hate VC morons who think they are visionary geniuses. People just blow smoke up their ass for money!
No.519209
>>519202exactly
if the west want a power play theyll get it
No.519211
>>519199Turks are greeks in denial
No.519212
>>519202You are at
[Bargain]
No.519215
>>519202>recognizing independence and mutual defense pact of part of another country's territory is not a declaration of warkek
No.519216
ZELENSKY ANNOUNCED GENERAL MOBILIZATION
No.519219
>>518909Did I miss something why is Ukraine they/them?
No.519220
>>519188liberals have one track minds, they hyper focus in one thing and forget everything else, if puting falls his party will lose relevancy to the second and third most relevant parties.
No.519221
uKKKranians are the REAL stalinists
No.519222
>>519202It's probably not so immediate. The US has made some serious strategic mistakes over a very long period of time and now is just the moment of reckoning with them.
No.519223
>>519219because they are the woke kind of nazis
No.519224
>>519217I tried to explain geopolitical science to you people but you only listen to your feelings. Now you have to go trough your grief and I wish you good luck.
No.519225
>>519186Ofcourse no cheers for russian oligarchs the russian working class should decide its strategy to defeat Putin
The imperialists want to redistribute earth and with the blood of the peoples draw the borders
No.519227
>>519219Because Ukraine army= side of NATO = America = they them army = libtards with pronouns.
No.519230
>>519201>Libya, Iraq, Syria, EthiopiaI sleep
>UkraineREAL SHIT
No.519231
>>519219its Agent Kochinski
No.519233
>>519226This literally happened to the entire Ukrop navy and air force in like half an hour, kek.
Can westoids ever stop projecting?
No.519234
the funny thing is that if russians and ukranians just listened to bush (sr) none of this would've happened.
No.519236
>>519234or if americans listened to Brzezinski
No.519239
>>519219I absolutely don't want to know.
No.519240
>>519123This apparently isn't authentic, as snow hasn't been on the ground there for over 2 weeks
No.519242
>>519238
this really is voldemorts last stand!
No.519243
>>519225Exactly this is why I'm saying now is the time for Russian communist to really actually fight putin. This board seems to think Putin fights NATO better then Russian comrades could.
No.519245
>>519241More likely on the Russian side.
No.519247
>>519238
PoC
No.519248
>>519177What about the 14,000 that died over the last 8 years? Libs always do this shit where they pretend a bunch of deaths in a short period is worse than hundreds of times more deaths over a longer period. You are laying responsibility in one case and excusing it in another, the same as liberals excusing deaths under capitalism by upholding "natural order" implicitly blaming the victim when it dares to defend itself.
No.519250
>>519237>EVERY MALE FROM 18-60They'd be taking males in the 13-99 range sooner than enlist a single fucking woman.
No.519251
>>519181>It's almost as if it turned out that NATO will not have Russia among its ranksYou're right. Russia attempted to join NATO in 2000, they were eager to join the imperialist bloc, and woild readily have done so. This indicates the real character of their state.
>now Russia is allied with China, lead by a communist partyRussia is not China. They don't even have a theoretical commitment to socialism, and Putin openly denounces communism.
>while Russia itself has the communist party as second, supporting denazifying UkraineThe CPRF is notorious for being controlled opposition in Russia, pretty much any time they take a line in opposition to Putin he cracks down on them. To suggest that their presence in the Duma somehow changes the class character of the Russian state or that they have meaningful sway over Russian policy is absurd.
>>519196>when these people suffered for the imperialist aggressor that NATO is and deserves sidingAnd how will this war in any way alleviate their suffering? NATO will still be there at the end of it, pro-NATO forces in other non-aligned countries like Finland and Sweden will be dramatically strengthened, and these countries may now join NATO. If any part of Ukraine remains outside of Russian control then it will move even closer to NATO, if not join it outright. More people will flock to Ukrainian fascist movements, radicalized by the suffering of war and anti-Russian sentiment. Russian proles themselves will suffer from the effects of sanctions, will have their civil liberties curtailed in the name of national security, their sons and fathers will die in this idiotic war, and their tax dollars will he funneled into the pockets of Russian arms porkies instead of being spent on improving their lives. How does this benefit anybody except Putin and his clique of porkies, not to mention Western warmongers and arms dealers?
No.519252
>>5192413 days when putin is deposed for getting btfo'd by ukranian zoomers and is pushed all the way to Volgograd (formerly known as Stalingrad)
No.519254
>>519250theyre saving the women to be spoils of war for the russians
No.519256
>>519046This is why I don't see this working long term for Russia, surely the banderists will be galvanised by this and will have plenty of room to run an insurgency in Ukraine?
No.519257
>>519256End of NATO, end of the second White Republic of Russia
No.519260
>>519246Is it? Seems no one's for my idea that commies in Russia should take advantage of anti-war sentiment.
No.519261
>>519251>woild readily have done so.And they were rejected, because they are forever considered part colony
No.519262
>>519237While he hides on a bunker
No.519263
>>519258Damn are they really beelining to Kiev?
No.519265
>>519263If you drop paratroopers, you kind of need to go get them.
No.519266
>First day of war and russia still hasnt taken Kiev
Nothingburger
No.519267
>>519248>What about the 14,000 that died over the last 8 years?They were victims of imperialist warmongering and meddling on the part of NATO and the West, whom I hold principally responsible for things getting to this point.
>You are laying responsibility in one case and excusing it in anotherNot at all. I blame NATO for the situation deteriorating to the point where Russia sees military action as a viable option, but I blame Russia for escalating the situation so dramatically. Frankly I don't see why this intervention was warranted now. Ukraine was unlikely to join NATO so long as the Civil conflict in Donbass was ongoing.
No.519269
>>519265What details are there on the battle of Kiev (assuming it's taking place)? Who's winning?
No.519271
>>519202i think its more when ukraine explicitely said they would seek to join nato while still bombing dombass
No.519272
>>518731He’s gonna trigger the libs because they like to jerk off to Rosa Luxemburg.
No.519274
I hope russia annihilates ukraine and this will be a mark in the history.
No.519275
>>519260there have already been anti war protestors who have been suppressed by russian law enforcement. the country is at war, this isnt a virtue signalling session, you either get in line, or you get bashed. people on the board are just bbeing optimistic of the realistic outcome
No.519276
Just read apparently forces guarding Odessa have finally made it to the Dnieper to fight at Crimean front, but still no. resistance as it pushes East
No.519277
>>519251>NATO will still be there at the end of ithow many times this day have you went outside to protest the war? you've been calling based peaceful protestors in Russia "to weaken" the oligarch ruling class.
Fucking all day
all fucking day and you haven't done what you say others should do, and when asked to support the ones freeing that old woman treated as a subhuman you behave like a pathetic worm.
No.519278
>>519136Russia's defence of Syria isn't because of some moral character of the Russian nation/Putin but to curtail US influnce and their geopol interests. As we can clearly see from this war, Russia is perfectly capable of imperialist agression (No, I don't support Ukraine either). It's just a question of strategy and what they are capable of.
No.519279
>>519267>Frankly I don't see why this intervention was warranted now.To prevent more deaths. Just admit you are a succdem and think violence is unacceptable when its not done by a "legitimate" rules based order state.
No.519282
Nothing will be same from this moment in history.
No.519283
>>519270Can't accept it after condemning Russia for doing it
No.519286
>>519270like arabs are well armed enough to fight the us military, i'd know he'd run if there was fighting on his street
No.519287
>>519277Most leftst orgs already organize protests for the coming days
No.519289
>>519277 (me)
sabotard is a worm. confirmed has no fur and instead of walking just crawls.
No.519290
>>518788No. The “lib” left is basically Pink Fash.
We can see it here with Ukraine and the Pink-Blue-Brown alliance.
No.519292
>>519251>And how will this war in any way alleviate their suffering?Russia is removing an out of control Nazi Junta that is occupying Ukraine and refuses to stop murdering civilians. It will alleviate suffering by removing the Nazis that are running the country so normal people can get on with their lives.
No.519293
Has pootin said something?
No.519294
>>519287comming days? libtards in Russia didn't take one single day.
No.519295
>>519292shut the fuck up liberal. you're not fitting in
No.519296
>>519286It's a sort of cynical sarcasm to get back to the far right types that constantly ask why the war refugees replacing whites didn't stay and fight for their country
No.519298
Ukrainians are launching all out counterattacks as the night progresses. No progress seems to be made, but Russians are slowed
No.519299
>>519294Well based for them but we should do it organized you dont understand that euro proles will suffer due to the sactions
No.519300
apparently putin was promised kharkov by now and he's in a bunker seething while drunk, possible suicide or abdication in the coming days.
No.519303
>>519267I agree with this view, but you can argue with nato starting to conduct military exercise in the country it could have ended up as defacto nato before too long, and they can always sit on the no border conflict clause. if there was a good moment to act military it was probably it
No.519306
>>519297>when you can't afford to deal with your poverty or AIDS epidemic but you can give out thousands of rifles for everyone for a war you know you're going to lose in a couple days🤡🤡🤡
No.519307
Make a new thread uyghurs
No.519308
>>519297Good thing Ukraine is a low crime place where those weapons won't later be used by criminals on Ukrainian citizens.
https://leftypol.org/draw/res/1.html>It's easy to rob or hurt or kill somebody and get out of the country before this person even goes to the police. I can get out of Ukraine within 2 days, quick enough to avoid getting caught. I don't need to hurt them immediately, nice vengeance requires planning and time. People get killed for less than $1500, people get killed for lesser betrayals and for lesser insults, especially in 3rd world pisspoor countries like Ukraine, which is poorer than Turkey, Iran, China or Morocco. A couple of broken teeth is a lottery ticket in my view. If they stole $1500 from mafioso, they would be dead already. I had weeks to plan my vengeance, I can't love any woman even half as strongly as I loved the first one, and I don't experience strong attachment to anything but to the things I collect and the awards I inherited. Taking those things from me is worse than rape or stealing all my money and the apartment, they chose to spit in my face and take whatever dignity and self-esteem I had. I didn't draw because of some love for art, I was drawing to earn money. What for do I need money now if I love no one and I have nothing to cherish? There's only bitter taste of betrayal and hate. No.519310
>>519304maybe the tactic is to just call it a war crime? depraved and bloodthirsty if so
No.519311
>>519304Reminder that this isn't Ukraine itself, but the NATO puppets that are ruling Ukraine in the first place.
NATO is the one arming these civilians, Ukraine comes second on this.
No.519312
holy fuck this is just embarrassing. was russia a paper tiger all along? how are they getting pushed back???
No.519313
>>519245Yes armies suffer big morale problems after waves of victories
No.519314
Can I get a rundown on the sanctions?
No.519315
>>519300Kharkov is almost surrounded. It seems Ukrops concentrated at Sumy and Kharkov as Russians advance to Kiev almost unimpeded
No.519316
Russian VDV brigade near Kiev is wiped out apparently
No.519317
>>519316what the fuck is going on putinsisters???
No.519318
>>519316they claimed that ten times today
No.519319
>>519304It is for the spectacle to frame Russia. It is better for sanctions-purpose to paint Russia as le ebin imperialist.
>>519299With more reason, they should strike stronger.
>>519309Officially CIA uyghurs.
No.519320
>>519316for the 100th time today?
No.519321
>>519312what are you talking about
>>519316Holy shit, were they supposed to prepare the ground for the Kiev push that got delayed? Makes sense
No.519322
>>519311 Zelensky can't surrender or capitulate or they are going to Gaddafi him
No.519323
NEW THREAD
>>778128
>>778128
>>778128
>>778128
No.519324
>>519320The entire Russian armies is made up of thousands of VDV units
No.519325
>>519249ooof, that's enough to level a city
i wonder what prompted that much hardpower
No.519326
>>519312t. americanoid
day 1 in iraq you were still eating sand
No.519327
>>519308My first thought as well, the blowback from this war in general is going to be fucking insane for every party involved.
No.519329
>>519292>>519277I'm in the process of joining the Communist Party of Canada, and I've been in touch with their organizers. If they organize an anti-war demonstration I will 100% be attending, as well as actively participating in any efforts to pressure our government to cease all intervention in Ukraine.
>>519279>To prevent more deaths.The best way to prevent more deaths would have been to occupy Donbass and back the separatists with regular Russian forces. This is a dramatic escalation that will in all likelihood lead to more death.
>>519292What does any of that have to do with people in Russia and their suffering?
No.519330
>>519328Merchant ship flagged to the Marshall Islands, it's fine
No.519331
Are we seeing Deep Battle tactics?
No.519332
>>519312It has been less than a day.
No.519333
Anons I know this is tricky, I do wish for the fascist elements of Ukraine to be put down. I do wish for a more multi-polar world. I do wish for NATO to be weakened and destroyed. I do know this brings immense violence, violence the material conditions of capitalism have made necessary. We are at the whims of Capital in this. It's a sick irony that we know the mass violence of inter-imperialist conflict must occur to bring down capitalism. None of us are responsible for that, whether we wish for it to be over with or pushed off doesn't matter here. Anons whether your enthusiastic or down on this, history is back on the menu. All that matters is our hearts are connected to the needs of the prole, we can do no wrong with that!
No.519334
>>519333Post this in the new thread, comrade
No.519335
Caleb denying there's an invasion happening. Holy hell what a retard.
No.519336
Analysis from a french general blog made yesterday
The probability of an open interstate conflict between Russia and Ukraine is now very high. This war will be part of the wider confrontation between Russia and the Atlantic Alliance, which has been going on for several years, and which is being waged on both sides with all possible instruments, both civilian and military.
Let us recall above all the rules of the game of the use of the military instrument. In the background, there is the nuclear weapon on both sides, which, like the queen on a chessboard, influences the whole game by its power even if it does not move. But nobody wants it to move. Nuclear powers that confront each other therefore avoid anything that could make it tremble, and first of all to confront each other directly with weapons. There may have been some friction in various places, but efforts have always been made to control these clashes very quickly.
Let us note some operational consequences of this rule. If we do not confront each other directly militarily, we can always attack those who do not benefit from this nuclear umbrella. As the enemy of my enemy can eventually be considered as my friend, the opposite side can also choose to militarily help the threatened state.
If the attack has not yet taken place, the first way to help it is to place the target state under its protection as quickly as possible, or else risk preemptively triggering the enemy attack that we want to avoid. The only way is to play the "reckless pedestrian" who suddenly crosses the road and forces all motorists to brake. In 1983, Chad, threatened by Libya, called France for help. A few days later, three French battalions occupied key points in central Chad and it was made clear to Colonel Gaddafi that crossing the 15th parallel would provoke a war with France.
If the attack took place, there was no longer any question of sending troops, except at best for "ghost soldiers", volunteers, lost leave-holders, private soldiers, etc., and even then only in small doses to avoid the rule of non-confrontation. In reality, it will be a matter of hoping that the attacked state will resist long enough to be helped by making the war a costly stalemate.
This brings us back to Ukraine. When the crisis erupted at the turn of 2014, Russia responded immediately with a mobilization of forces on the border and the annexation of Crimea. The Atlantic Alliance, at the request of the new Ukrainian government, could have played a "reckless pedestrian" at that point. No one dared. In the next phase, while remaining masked, Russia supported the autonomist movement in Donbass and when it was threatened with suffocation, launched new military moves: deployment of an anti-aircraft force that chased Ukrainian planes and helicopters out of the sky, then bludgeoning of Ukrainian battalions along the border with drone-guided multiple rocket launchers -a battalion was destroyed in three minutes- and finally commitment at the end of August of joint battle groups (JBGs) -battalions grouping together tanks, mechanized infantry and above all artillery- on all the axes from Russia to Donetsk and Luhansk. Aggregated with local militiamen to provide infantry and a political mask, and followed by electronic warfare groups and very heavy artillery, these groups crushed the Ukrainian brigades encountered in their path. This resulted in the Minsk I agreements. In January 2015, the Russians did the same thing again, with even more groupings, and that gave the Minsk II agreements.
Today, a new Russian attack, regardless of its objective of conquest would take the same form. In the 1980s, taking up Russian operating principles from the 1930s, Soviet doctrine called this a "high-speed offensive". The principle is simple: to act on a whole chosen terrain in a minimum of time. In the farthest distance, infiltrating troops on foot, planes, helicopters, or ships; in the middle of the strikes, planes, helicopters, multiple rocket launchers or others, and behind the shells of the GTIA passing by all the axes. The Russians have around Ukraine and in the self-proclaimed republics of Donbass about 120 IWGs (for comparison the French Army is sure to be able to form six complete, after that it is not certain), but also 500 fighter aircraft, which unlike 2014 would be used this time. With these assets, they can launch up to eight high-speed attacks simultaneously, each on a major road along a rectangle 100 km by 200 deep to be conquered in a week.
There are only two things that could stand in their way.
The first is a "reckless pedestrian". Despite the progressive disorganization of European armies since 1990, one could have found some forces to deploy quickly, but only among the very few nations willing to put their soldiers at risk of course. In a rather unanimous way, we were quick to admit to the Russians that we would never do it. So let's forget about this option, unless we strangely consider that doing it in Romania will dissuade Russia from attacking Ukraine.
The second is of course Ukrainian defense. Militarily, Ukraine is somewhat in the position of NATO having to defend the Federal Republic of Germany (FRG) against the Soviet Group of Forces in Germany. The working scenario was that of a high-speed offensive on five axes of attack seeking to seize the FRG before Western leaders even had time to consider the use of nuclear weapons. There were then only two modes of defense: the first was a mirror image of the Russian method from armored units in the first instance to deep strikes, the second was a surface defense - a techno-guerrilla to use Joseph Henrotin's expression - made up of small, well-trained and equipped infantry units each defending a given terrain, in the manner of the Finnish defense against the Russians in the winter of 1940.
Ukraine is currently capable of doing neither. In the air or, a little better, on the ground, there is nothing to prevent the Russians from having control of the sky with all that may imply. On the ground, the forty or so IWGs available are equipped with old Soviet equipment, inferior to that of the other side, and without stockpiles (note, in passing, the mysterious accidents that have occurred for some time in the ammunition depots in Ukraine and even among the few external suppliers). As for the techno-guerrilla, it is as little techno as guerrilla. There are 25 territorial brigades made up of reservists, but they are far from the Finnish fighter-skier battalions of 1940 or the Lebanese Hezbollah in 2006 against Israel. There are no fortified lines, no subterranean tunnels, no hidden depots, no companies of elite fighters, despite the undeniable courage of Ukrainian soldiers. One can receive anti-tank missiles at the last moment or buy excellent Turkish armed drones, but one still has to know how to use them.
All this is very little and very late, and this remark is valid both for the Ukrainian state and for the countries of the Atlantic Alliance, which often wake up only when they are slapped. So we do not see what could stop the Russian high-speed attacks, perhaps simultaneous aimed at conquering all of Ukraine at once, or successive ones seeking to gradually dismember the country. At most we can attack in the civilian field and prepare a little better militarily for the next move, in Ukraine if the initial Russian victory leads to an unstable situation, or elsewhere.
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>>518988YESSIR THATS CONFIRMED BASED
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>>519308kek holy shit
It's like Albania in the 90s where the government just opened up the military armories to everybody and their dog.
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Is he Hitler or recreating the USSR make up your minds
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>>518988>six digitsimpressive
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