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File: 1645783170180.png (91.88 KB, 1295x497, totalwar.png)

 No.521480[Last 50 Posts]

TOTAL WAR EDITION

TO WATCH FOR NEWS: https://liveuamap.com/ (not always reliable)


LATEST

Ukraine conflict: Fighting rages near Kyiv after Russia invasion
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60513116

Russian forces approaching Kyiv from northeast & east; Ukrainian Prez pleads for help (LIVE UPDATES)
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/newsblogs/russia-ukraine-war-crisis-news-live-vladimir-putin-volodymyr-zelenskyy-latest-updates/liveblog/89813650.cms

Russia attacks Ukraine live updates: Russian forces close on Kyiv (LIVE UPDATES)
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/24/russian-troops-advancing-closer-to-kyiv-us-says-liveblog

Latest updates: Ben Wallace says Russia’s ambition is to invade 'the whole of Ukraine’ but its forces have so far lost around 450 personnel
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/feb/25/uk-politics-live-boris-johnson-russia-invasion-ukraine-latest-updates

Many Are Stranded by the War in Ukraine, From Students to Soccer Players, and Reportedly a Hollywood Name
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/many-are-stranded-by-the-war-in-ukraine-from-students-to-soccer-players-and-reportedly-a-hollywood-name/ar-AAUhRKk


ANALYSIS

Sergey Karaganov: Russia’s new foreign policy, the Putin Doctrine
https://www.rt.com/russia/550271-putin-doctrine-foreign-policy/

Why Biden didn’t negotiate seriously with Putin
https://nonzero.substack.com/p/why-biden-didnt-negotiate-seriously



N.B. to other OPs: refresh the news, don't just copy paste the old OP

N.B. to people screaming "Western sources! reeeeeee!", in times of war like this, you have to get info from wherever you can. it is up to the reader to use critical thinking skills and choose what to believe

 No.521481

File: 1645783282146.jpg (72.05 KB, 621x402, 66jqqs.jpg)

Putin will be remembered as the russian Bush of the 21. century

 No.521482

File: 1645783283197.png (830.5 KB, 723x454, ClipboardImage.png)

Taiwan watching Ukraine

 No.521483

Ziolensky and his tavor touting cia zionazi paramilitary finna get rocketed.

I like this.

Cuck Nato literally slurp the black semen from putins fat oligarch oil pipeline dick, whimpering about sanctions between gagging sessions

Hilarious.

Capitalist pigdogs riding their neon contradiction waves of irradiated heavily plastic littered water right onto a dead rocky beach strewn with empty beer cans and condoms.

Help me Gonzalo wan Guzman you are our only hope

 No.521484

>>521482
Chinese meme or taiwanese meme?

 No.521485

At 5:30 a.m. Moscow time, new attacks on Kiev with cruise missiles began. One of them was shot down by Ukrainian air defense, and the cruise missile fell on a residential building. 8 people were injured.

A Ukrainian Su-27 was shot down. Strikes take place on Kiev, mainly in the districts of Svyatoshinsky and Kotsyubinsky.

In Gostomel/Hostomel, Russian forces continue to hold out.

At Pavlovka, west of Zhytomyr, itself very west of Kiev, the landing of Russian troops has been reported.

https://t.me/rybar/25068

 No.521486


 No.521487

>>521480
It only took 2 days for the Volkstruum to be formed.

 No.521488

>>521481
Not really comparable (so far). Much, much less civilian deaths in the Russian invasion. Could change, but I doubt it will.
Still both shit, but one is clearly worse than the other.

 No.521489

> In Gostomel/Hostomel, Russian forces continue to hold out.
Hold on brothers

 No.521490

>>521488
>Not really comparable (so far). Much, much less civilian deaths in the Russian invasion.
Uyghur the invasion started yesterday.

 No.521491

>>521486
>this is the future the anti-putinites want
nightmare shit

 No.521492

File: 1645783539097.jpg (113.05 KB, 719x1280, FMbutErXEAAeI4R.jpg)

Ukraine is posting infographs in how to make a molotov cocktail.

 No.521493

File: 1645783567889.jpg (64.33 KB, 360x366, 1641174629861.jpg)

For the anons who missed the last thread
The Ukrainian government is now urging civilians to take up arms against Russian forces. NO age restrictions.
>✅ Official statement of the Commander of the Troop Forces Yuri Galushkin:
>‼️ Today Ukraine needs everything. All procedures for joining TPO are simplified. Carry only your passport and identification code. There are no age restrictions.
>If you have problems on the ground, please refer to this official statement.
https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1497130688981655552

>BREAKING: Official Ukrainian military outlet tells citizens to make weapons in form of Molotov cocktails and throw them at Russian military in Kiev — this turns them all into targets and no longer grants status of protection as civilians.

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1497130221312565271

 No.521494

File: 1645783654213.jpg (266.21 KB, 1082x1394, d7lupqs4txj81.jpg)

This goes hard, feel free to save

 No.521495

>>521480
>N.B. to other OPs: refresh the news, don't just copy paste the old OP
What does 'refresh the news' mean? Why not just standardize general sources for the OP like liveuamap and whatever channels are providing updates and leave the news updates to the posts?

 No.521496


 No.521497

>>521494
>The Return of History
how many times can the fukuyamaist illusion be broken before liberals finally get it lmao

 No.521498

>>521490
Also unlike the burgers they aren't strafing fleeing civilians

 No.521499

Any livestreams left in Kiev?

 No.521500


 No.521501


 No.521502

File: 1645783863131.mp4 (309.54 KB, 320x576, 2_5242496115823088879.mp4)

explosions at the millerovo airfield, rostov oblast, russia

 No.521503

>>521495
You know what I'm going to be proactive. Let's start a list for next OP to post:

liveuamap.com
https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa
https://twitter.com/mfa_russia

What else should go in?

BTW Lavrov live now.

 No.521504

>>521494
Fukuyama on suicide watch.

 No.521505

>>521501
The stream is showing yesterday, you can see the cloudy sky. Today is a clear sky in Kiev.

 No.521506

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 No.521507

>>521497
If Fukuyama admintted himself he was wrong but Libs still held onto his thought afterward there is no hope they'll ever move.

 No.521508

>>521494
kek, the dialectics is in motion

 No.521509

>>521506
Wtf? Is that Psaki in the middle?

 No.521510

>>521494

oh no no no no

 No.521511

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 No.521512

>>521483
Dustbin of history
Get in

 No.521513

>>521492
>>521493
History will show the trials to be necessary. Death to the Ukrainian state, freedom to the Ukrainian people.

 No.521514

>>521495
>What does 'refresh the news' mean?
Post the latest headlines.

 No.521515

>>521514
Like I was pointing out. That should be the job of the posters, not the OP. OP should be links that are actively providing updates.

 No.521516

File: 1645784276167.jpg (9.08 KB, 214x236, lt-bugs-aaaaaaaaa.jpg)

>>521483
>sage
>was gonzaloid all along

 No.521517

Brainlet here. How likely is it that Belarus get integrated into Russia?

 No.521518

>>521488
They are comparable, because both used a lie as a pretext for invasion

 No.521519


 No.521520

>>521503
Nobody else watching/listening to this? Way more interesting than anything in this thread RN. Maybe we should make a cytube.

 No.521521

>>521503
CNN btfo
Close to getting thrown out

 No.521522

>>521520
LMAO technical difficulties. Looks like no one can into working audio visual.

 No.521523

>>521517
It basically is part of Russia already in official terms. Even more since the attempted coup, since now Luka only has Putin because west wants to get rid of him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_State

 No.521524

>>521519
oh wow that's the silly little sex number!

 No.521525

>>521494
>Putin SHATTERED Europes dreams
How fucking dramatic

 No.521526

>>521523
yeah I know about the union state, I was more thinking about if there would be a referendum or something resulting in an official annexation, making Belarus a state of Russia or something like that

 No.521527

>>521503
Tune the fuck in yall. He's laying it all out.

 No.521528

>>521503
>If he banned English language what would be your response, I'm asking my western counterparts
Just now

 No.521529

File: 1645784704545.jpg (12.08 KB, 217x217, ch.jpg)

LMAOOOO the monkey faced Ukrainian MP bitch is on CNN right now begging the US to institute a no fly zone and bring their planes in
They're desperate for some air cover

 No.521530

>>521503
It's a fucking zoom meeting.

 No.521531

>>521493
> military outlet tells citizens to make weapons in form of Molotov cocktails and throw them at Russian military in Kiev — this turns them all into targets and no longer grants status of protection as civilians.
I wonder how many civs actually care enough for the government to defend it.
It’s not like they ever got anything out of it.

 No.521532

>>521503
Goddamn listen to this last answer. Too long for me transcribe but a lot of info.

 No.521533

Is there any proof now that Russians are moving into Kiev?
There have been such reports earlier this morning.

 No.521534

File: 1645784873574.mp4 (2.24 MB, 1280x720, 2197978662368420132.MP4)

Chaotic scenes at the Kiev railway station

 No.521535

Wikipedia bought the snake island massacre

What really happened
>In the area of ​​​​Snake Island (Odessa region), 82 Ukrainian soldiers laid down their arms and surrendered, they take a subscription refusing to participate in the battles, and in the near future they will be returned to their families

<Ministry of Defense of Russia

 No.521536

>>521529
kek what happened to that totally real irl ace combat protag the ukrops totally had

 No.521537

>>521536
You mean this?

 No.521538

>>521535
>The Alamo

Lmao

 No.521539

File: 1645785031689-0.gif (878.08 KB, 340x191, dreadnought.gif)

>>521535
>Russian missile cruiser

 No.521540

>>521531
Probably people in the (ex-polish) western Ukraine will be the most likely to take up arms, since they have always been the most anti-Russian of them all , even against the Russian in their own country.

 No.521541

>>521531
Organized crime in Ukraine just got a bunch of free weapons.

 No.521542

This is fucking horrific.

 No.521543


 No.521544

>>521540
5 € to them killing the minorities of western ukraine (hungarians, poles, roma) cause that's what fascists know best.

 No.521545

>>521529
why tf are you like this?

 No.521546

File: 1645785286812.png (122.11 KB, 1255x854, child soldiers.png)

Russell was right. I didn't want to believe him. I thought he was being a retard dishonest propagandist with his "liberate" rhetoric, but when I see what absolute rats their government are, the Ukrainian people need to be freed. They've always been innocent in this.
Spetsnaz need to raid every government ministry building in Kiev and exterminate them.
The elites of Ukraine will literally sacrifice the children and babies of Kiev. This is a mask-off moment.

 No.521547

>>521541
Yesterday in Kiev only 10000 firearms were distributed.
Likely similar scenes took place in other cities.
Ukraine is going to be awash with firearms after all this.
(And I wouldn't exclude glowies contributing to this in the future).

 No.521548

>>521537
Pure comedy gold. Fucking idiots! LMAO

 No.521549

>>521545
The government is pure evil and needs to be stopped from throwing innocent Ukrainians into the meatgrinder.

 No.521550

>>521544
this uygha knows what up, they will massacre trade unionists, foreigners and others until they face a real army where they will run away

 No.521551

>>521497
Libs are literally stuck in time

 No.521552

>>521549
so why act like a memefag fanboy for a nation that's just as bad?

 No.521553

>>521546
Texas said the Ukrainians might use a chemical attack in desperation and now the Media is pushing muh russian false flag chemical attack narrative. I really hope he is not right about this one but holy fuck

 No.521554

>>521552
I don't see America invading them right now. Go on

 No.521555

File: 1645785484948-0.jpg (375.82 KB, 3467x2124, 20220225_073721.jpg)

File: 1645785484948-1.jpg (442.3 KB, 3467x2058, 20220225_073723.jpg)

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New Ukranazi Stepan

 No.521556

>>521553
BOTH SIDES JUST AS BAD

 No.521557

>>521538
>the Alamo
>that battle where a bunch of settlers got blasted to oblivion because they fucked themselves strategically and underestimated the Mexican army.
lel ok

 No.521558


 No.521559

File: 1645785524128.jpg (184.65 KB, 1080x527, bandera approved.jpg)

>>521480
>There are no age restrictions
Sure thing

 No.521560

Zelensky somewhere on the frontline in Kiev this morning, not sure what his status is exactly. He missed a scheduled phone call with Italian PM.

 No.521561

>>521558
Show me the American units invading Ukraine right now and I'll go enlist
Until then, Russia is it.

 No.521562

>>521561
is your entire opinion just purely based on whether the US is involved?

 No.521563

>>521561
Ukrops are literally fighting with NATO's gifts

 No.521564

>>521543
samefag.

 No.521565

>>521562
No, the Ukrainian government needs to be destroyed. You're bitching about me supporting Russia in doing it.
If you want me to support whatever country you live in, go call your congressman or stop whining

 No.521566

Who are the safest people during such times? I want to make myself safe in such situations

Is it babies? Average Joe? Bureaucratic people? People who know passwords?
Technical people who know the documents and how to work the water supplies?

Surely it's not the president

Are the army people the first to be killed? Or would they keep them for army secrets?

 No.521567

File: 1645785772843.png (82.76 KB, 1746x1503, wcnxuelrxuj81.png)

It was over before it began for Russia.

 No.521568

>>521559
I don't get the meme

 No.521569

>>521555
How long until we see Ukrainian soldiers and conscripts hanged in the streets with a sign hanging from their necks saying "Verräter!"

 No.521570

>>521565
He is, may Allah forgive me for uttering this word, an Angloid.

 No.521571

File: 1645785833823.mp4 (20.37 MB, 720x1280, 8814268090479286304.MP4)

Russian special forces in Bucha, ~10 miles from the center of Kiev.

 No.521572

>>521565
i'm not from the US, i'm complaining about you acting like a memefag for russia in a imperialist war since supporting bouruosie states in imperialist wars kinda goes against what being a communist is

 No.521573

>>521569
what did your parents do to you that made you turn out this way?

 No.521574

can't fucking russia BTFO the government without fucking bombing civilians for fucks sake?

 No.521575

>>521569
That's so fucked up man

I hate nationalism

 No.521576

>>521572
The Ukrainians are literally conscripting child soldiers according to their blue checkmark and google translate. I'll support whoever destroys their state.

 No.521577

>>521573
Just saying that it is going to happen.
Fascists are well known for being this way.

 No.521578

>>521571
anyone else feel like these are fake as fuck

 No.521579

>>521574
are civilian deaths making your shilling for a bourgeoise state difficult?

 No.521580

>>521577
how is Ukraine fascist?

 No.521581

Nations were a mistake

 No.521582

>>521569
The fact people believe stuff like this is proof large numbers of people on this site suffer from a serious mental illness.

 No.521583

>>521574
They aren't?

 No.521584

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 No.521585

File: 1645785979735.mp4 (777.96 KB, 480x360, 1643286356310.mp4)

>>521568
Of course, Ukrop

 No.521586

>>521568
Girl period+cry
Boy cry
Ukrainian pees himself+ cries which coincidentally results in the colors of the Ukrainian flag.

 No.521587

>>521579
>bourgeoise state
w-where

i got my bouj-be-gone spray right here comrades

 No.521588

File: 1645785997390.mp4 (7.03 MB, 384x384, 16457851537520.mp4)

Ukrops laying down mines in Odessa while civilans are watching

 No.521589

>>521576
so you just purely base your opinion on what age groups nations recruit from? i think marx said the same thing lmao

 No.521590

>>521587
joke so funny it deserves a netflix special

 No.521591

>>521582
I mean is horrifying stuff happening under war really that hard to believe?

 No.521592

>>521590
thank you anon, i try my best
i am a humble humorer after all

 No.521593

>>521582
You know this literally happened in nazi germany in 1945 right?
Not saying they should, just that it's going to happen, ukrainian right-wing militias will go and start executing deserters cause that's the best they can do, kill people who do not intend to fight.

 No.521594

>>521560
he comes across as someone who's in way over his head and knows he's fucked, he looks completely miserable here

 No.521595

File: 1645786113212.png (3.03 MB, 1750x2500, ClipboardImage.png)

>>521589
Based. Age shouldn't determine fitness to fight.

 No.521596

>>521589
marx said what

 No.521597

>>521574
>can't fucking russia BTFO the government without fucking bombing civilians for fucks sake?
You don't to push the war button without killing civilians.

 No.521598

>>521576
Ukrainians:

Try to conscript kids;
Report their own casualties, including from friendly fire, as Russian casualties;
have neonazis in their army;
put minefields in front of civilians;
ukrainian deserters run over civilian cars while running away;
shelling civilians in Donbass even when Ukraine itself is getting overrun by Russians;
Ghost of fucking Kiev

why would anyone ever say that Russia is the same? Why?

 No.521599

>>521594
If you only knew how bad things really are
He feels like the reddit president, idk why

 No.521600

>>521593
Anons here cannot tell the difference between people describing a situation and endorsing a situation.

 No.521601

>>521547
>Yesterday in Kiev only 10000 firearms were distributed.
It was 18,000 machine guns in Kiev alone, apparently.
https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1497159002886606850

 No.521602

>>521574
Unless all officials building were built hundred of kilometers away from the closest housing, then no it's impossible.

 No.521603

AMOGUS

 No.521604

>>521566
the safest people are the ones not in ukraine, anon. Otherwise, it's very context dependent. Camping out at metro stations is a good idea.

I don't think you can make yourself a baby, but if you figure out how, please let me know.
>>521542
It is.
>>521493
My government is not nearly as corrupt. I would NEVER fight for it. Not even if the US was invading. Who cares who our masters are? My life is much more precious.

There are many mixed families. Why the fuck would they be fighting russians? These are normal office workers being given guns and told to shoot people. Fuck off. I would use them to barricade and protect wherever we are. Maybe scrap together a sign that says we have no skin in the game and want to be left alone.

Who knows how savage the russian army is being. This is a horrible situation. Disgusting. Truly horrific.

 No.521605

>>521597
They don't bomb civilians.

>>521598
Oh, forgot the suicide bombing their own bridges to stop Russian troops from advancing

 No.521606

Is it true that there is a Nazi Division in the Ukranian army?

Give me the whole truith

 No.521607

>>521596
i was being sarcastic, i was making fun of the guy using ukraine training the underage as reasoning for supporting one bourgeoise state against another on a supposedly communist website. It's like saying you support the US in Vietnam because of child soldiers

 No.521608

The brits are grifting at this point

 No.521609

File: 1645786274249-0.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 57.31 KB, 600x800, FMb1e7wXMAwrjTI.jpeg)

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Murders of civilians by Ukraine.
Today, shelling by the Armed Forces of Ukraine killed a teacher at a school in Horlivka.
Two women died.

 No.521610

>>521606
the military unit is Azov battalion and it saw a lot of fighting in Crimea if i remember right, retards use it as "proof" that Ukraine is fascist since they have no idea what fascism actually is.

 No.521611

>>521579
What is the alternative you stupid fuck?

 No.521612

>>521608
Anglo sources wouldn't know how to report the truth even if they wanted to

 No.521613

File: 1645786310920.mp4 (3.68 MB, 720x1280, 6298409915094880365.MP4)

Gunfire in Kiev. Recorded about ~5 miles from Maidan square

 No.521614

>>521609
ouchie

 No.521615


 No.521616

>>521611
supporting the proletariat

 No.521617

>>521610
>Azov battalion
What are they and why do they exist

Is it an unofficial group of rightoid soldiers with reactionary beliefs?

 No.521618

>>521610
This.
Fascism is when you hate jews very much, the more you hate jews the fascistier.

 No.521619

>>521616
Nice abstraction, so what is the alternative?

 No.521620

>>521609
I’m going to be curious when this is all over who killed more civilians

 No.521621

>>521617
They no longer exist as a battalion, they were absorbed into the national guard. They are followers of stepan bandera (hitler's cuck)

 No.521622

>>521608
fucking anglos toryboy child diddlers

 No.521623

>>521616
How, retard? Where is the proletariat for itself?
Fucking idealistic stupid fucking retard.

 No.521624

>>521619
supporting the proletariat in all its actions and struggles against Capital, this little know writer called marx wrote alot on the subject, you should check him out

 No.521625

File: 1645786463901.jpeg (113.85 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpeg)

Russia says they already have a substitution for import of semiconductors — sanction the west praised the most

 No.521626

Reports of clashes in northern Kiev, along Heroiv Dnipra street.

 No.521627

>>521618
Fascism is Capitalism's final form
As a government it is easy to determine what is fascism

But as people, It is kinda hard since rightoids are stupid and have no knowledge or ideas most of the time about the systems they want or want to build

So taking antisemitism is a decent cue, I would say, just for people

If they're violent especially

 No.521628

>>521610
>>521618
well, "muh aesthetics" )paraphrasing what you implied to say) is encompassed with their actions at the Union building.

 No.521629

>>521619
Not cheering forces who are not socialists for starters.

 No.521630

>>521619
Based. I hate these platitude commie motherfuckers as well.

 No.521631

>>521624
You tried being clever anon… but you failed.

 No.521632

>>521627
>>521628
give me your detailed definition of what you think fascism is

 No.521633

>>521627
>Fascism is Capitalism's final form
and nazis would be the ethno form of fascism. It is a flavor, if you will, of fascism.

 No.521634

>>521624
Very Kosher. Nothing objectionable. Nothing that means anything at all. I give you 10 Marx points comrade.

 No.521635

>>521617
Basically neo-nazi paramilitaries that were integrated into the armed forces of ukraine.
>>521624
arrogant fuck. WHERE IS THE PROLETARIAT FOR ITSELF?! Do you support the nazi proletariat too? idiot.

 No.521636

>>521567
Except the puppet is in prison

 No.521637

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 No.521638

>>521632
iliberal capitalism. As I said here >>521633 nazis are just a form of fascism, ethnofascism.

 No.521639

>>521631
yeah i guess asking people who larp as communists to actually act like communist is a pretty hard thing to do

 No.521640

>>521586
The boy is actually crying and cumming

 No.521641

>>521628
>>521627
People taking >>521618 seriously.
Autism and it's consequences have been a disaster for /leftypol/kind

 No.521642

>>521623
lol

I guess it is important for them to have built a solid proletariat solidarity and instiutions of power in ukraine before all this happened

At least then the proles of there could have some say

 No.521643


 No.521644

>>521634
>Nothing objectionable
it's the most objectionable thing you can do against capitalist states, class struggle is literally the most threatening thing to them and entire nations have been formed with the specific purpose of countering it

 No.521645

>>521639
Definitely harder to do than making holier-than-thou posts on a mongolian goat herding forum.

 No.521646

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Russia will not allow neo-Nazis to rule in Ukraine - Lavrov
⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️

 No.521647

File: 1645786683748.mp4 (4.56 MB, 640x360, 16457853435450.mp4)

Russia has looted UK weaponry

 No.521648

>>521641
Why is it wrong or autistic to express or expand upon your ideas, even on the base of a joke?

I don't think you know what autism means

 No.521649

>>521638
that's not what fascism is

 No.521650

>>521608
Again the Anglo's present themselves as having such high intelligence capabilities that they are more aware of Russian military operations and plans than the Russian military itself.

 No.521651

Sources in the Russian Defense Ministry report that the intelligence officers have been given a special order to try, if possible, to prevent A. Turchinov from escaping from Ukraine. They want to try him exponentially for unleashing a war in eastern Ukraine and war crimes.

 No.521652

File: 1645786752167.png (3.35 MB, 1200x1543, ClipboardImage.png)

>>521644
Are you a walking and talking brochure uygha?

 No.521653

>>521645
how the fuck is "act like communists" holier-than-thou?

 No.521654

>>521650
the anglo still hasn't shed the delusion of empire

 No.521655

>>521649
It is. Is when capitalism becomes violent in different ways in order to secure profits. Ilieberal capitalism.
What else is, then?

 No.521656


 No.521657

>>521632
I just did, It's liberalism without any subtext of freedom or bullshit

It's raw skinning of the prole for all he is worth, with no fruit at the end

Absolute slave labor, Maximum production and profit for the bourgeoisie, Outright strings and puppet masters in the form of the factory owners controlling the government

 No.521658

>>521649
What do you think it is then?

 No.521659

File: 1645786891378.jpeg (37.15 KB, 600x600, 2dd.jpeg)

Ok honestly the child soldier thing is still kinda throwing me off

 No.521660

>>521655
>Is when capitalism becomes violent in different ways in order to secure profits
Capital is always violent in it's pursuit of accumulating commodities this is redundant. if that's the definition than every nation on earth is fascist

 No.521661

>>521656
Imagine thinking the manifesto is relevant today. Even Engels said it's an outdated document. You could have at least posted wage labour and capital.

 No.521662

>>521642
Your original comment is honestly infuriating, I really hope you're trolling.

This is a horrible situation Ukranians are in and it is in great part because of the defeat of leftists all around the world and particularly in ukraine. The proletariat is completely in the hands of the Russian and Ukranian government. We are forced to analyze which outcome is the least harmful for the peoples of ukraine. A disgusting scenario, no doubt.

So to say "you should support the proletariat" is a pretty detached demand and honestly incredibly insensible to the proletariat of Ukraine.

 No.521663

>>521658
The ruling class organising and mobilising the middle class and big bourgeoise with the purpose of defeating the organised proletariat

 No.521664

>>521661
i think you're thinking of principles of communism which engels and marx pointed out as outdated and incomplete

 No.521665

>>521660
>if that's the definition than every nation on earth is fascist
Yes

But now they still hold some BS and do some finger waggling when corporations do bad thing

This is without even that, It's the truth of capitalism out in the open without much resistance left to fight back in the place of its taking place

 No.521666

>>521659
If you mean the removing of restrictions thing, it might as well mean people over 60, don't jump to conclusions.

 No.521667

>>521665
>Yes
lmao, hope undergrads going well

 No.521668

>>521660
>Capital is always violent
Not always. We are talking about real violence, not some weird-ass deviated form of violence, like passive violence. Fascism, literal violence with physical violence, use of force, and psychological torture. When the person subject to the acts feels its life endangered.

 No.521669

>>521668
>its life
lol, their*

 No.521670

>>521662
>So to say "you should support the proletariat" is a pretty detached demand and honestly incredibly insensible to the proletariat of Ukraine.
this is the funniest thing i've read today

 No.521671

>>521662
I am not the guy you were replying to anon

 No.521672

>>521624
>supporting the proletariat in all its actions and struggles against Capital
More abstraction. Here is an actual concrete position to take: critical support for national industrial bourgeois of Russia in their struggle against western imperialist encirclement. This imperialist attack on Russia is not in isolation from the general world-imperialist offensive against the proletariat of the world.
If you don't understand how critical support for Russia helps the working classes of Ukraine and Russia, then it's clear that you are merely some kind of anglo american. Communists work with what they have, not with abstract ideals like "if the working class dont spontaneously rise up then its a nothingburger". This infact is what imperialists want idealists like you to do. Imperialism wishes to destroy the nation so that the proletariat of a nation has nothing to rally under.

 No.521673

>>521660
Keyword is ways Anon. Liberals says you're free to not work, just starve, Fascists don't embarass themselves with that kind of hypocrisy and straight up put a gun on your head so you meet the factory's quotas.

 No.521674

>>521668
>Fascism, literal violence with physical violence, use of force, and psychological torture. When the person subject to the acts feels its life endangered
does death by way of state violence just not exist in liberal nations?

 No.521675

Lavrov says Russia will negotiate once the Ukrainian army surrenders.

 No.521676

>>521667
Right, cause it's not like people are pissing in amazon warehouse factories and dying of heart attacks while their co-workers are forced to work despite rotting bodies

It's not like children below the ages of 10 work in factories to generate profit for their malnourished factory

We all live in happy magic human rights land

 No.521677

>>521672
>critical support for national industrial bourgeois of Russia in their struggle against western imperialist encirclement
lul

 No.521678

>>521666
We've already seen Azov training a 79 year old granny earlier this month.
I didn't want to believe the Russian propaganda casus belli but it's looking a bit more believable now, courtesy of Ukraine's own government.

 No.521679

>>521663
So we agree? Why are you being a technical andy

 No.521680

>>521675
Yeh I was trying to live cover it but the thread would rather debate the pontifications of the random assholes ITT.

>>521543
>>521503

 No.521681

File: 1645787244189.mp4 (699.38 KB, 720x1280, xM0gkCmlfghVHrMb.mp4)

UA soldier ordering bus driver to turn over all men aged 18-60 for conscription.

 No.521682

File: 1645787255447.jpg (182.34 KB, 1500x1000, UkrTraining.jpg)


 No.521683

>>521679
that's not even close to what you said

 No.521684

>>521664
was the manifesto not wrote before everything else? as a commission job?

 No.521685

Both sides are bad. Russia is slightly more bad because it attacks first, but don't think NATO is good. They just provoked the bear so that they would have a clean hand. But the people won't fall for it.

 No.521686

>>521676
thanks for admitting that you think fascism is just when bad things happen

 No.521687

>>521670
You don't get it, do you.
HOW? Stupid fuck. you can't answer that because you're an edgy detached fuck.

 No.521688

>>521684
It was, and it's outdated.

 No.521689

>>521680
Well it got me to tune in. I think you're fine.

 No.521690

>>521683
Fine, whatever, argue semantics
I am not the guy who said illiberal capitalism if you are confusing me

But even then I think he's right, Not as harsh but the meaning still stands

Capitalism is always illiberal, but I get what he meant

 No.521691

>>521684
it was but it still holds up, the only part that marx and engles considered as "outdated" is their thoughts on national liberation, which marx considered as outdated when he learned more on british india. but t's such a small part of the text that it still holds up and gets the basic down, of course further reading is very recommended.

 No.521692

>>521689
Tune in to what, friend?

 No.521693

>"The Syrian President expressed strong support for Russia's special military operation to protect the civilian population of the Donbass republics, while condemning the destabilizing policy of the United States and NATO, which at one time led to a serious degradation of the situation in the Middle East," the Kremlin's press service reported.

 No.521694

>>521674
>does death by way of state violence just not exist in liberal nations?
In idealistic liberalism, no. But liberals live through idealisms thus such a thing doesn't exist, so even "liberal capitalism" =/= fascism might sound a fallacy, but then again, as long the worker doesn't feel its life threatened, the illusion of liberal capitalism exists.
Illiberal capitalism, fascism, is just violence in control of capitalism. Nazis are the ethnofasicsm form of fascism but focused on hating the da joos.

 No.521695

>>521690
>I am not the guy who said illiberal capitalism if you are confusing me
i'm most definitely confusing you then

 No.521696

>>521686
That is not what I said, but you clearly care more acting smug than to honestly discuss

So no point in talking further.

 No.521697

>>521681
Seriously, I would have taken that AK they were handing out like candy, shot this motherfucker and defected to russians

 No.521698

>>521681
thats some dystopian shit

 No.521699

>>521691
>d engles considered as "outdated" is their thoughts on national liberation, which marx considered as outdated when he learned more on british india

where did he say this? I want to read, I'm interested on what the British Raj made him change his mind

 No.521700

>>521696
you just brought up people suffering in their workplaces, what other conclusion would be reach with your statement?

 No.521701

>>521693
The Assad blessing.

 No.521702

>>521692
Lavrov's speech. Interesting stuff, I wish we could've watched it on cytube.

 No.521703

>>521681
Okay maybe I believe in mens rigthts
What do we do bros

WHY DO WE ALWAYS GET FUCKED IN WAR TIME

 No.521704

>>521518
Ukrainian armed forces, together with neo-nazi militias, have been deliberately shelling civilians of Donbas, who are predominantly ethnic Russians, for 8 years. Thousands of civilians have been killed, including over 100 children. I'd consider this a genocide.

Here are some sources on deaths, Ukr war crimes, and testimonies of separatist soldiers who have been tortured as pows. They're all in Russian, so I hope that translate function works well.

https://yadocent.livejournal.com/1416159.html
https://antimaydan.info/2019/07/18_fakty_genocida_i_voennyh_prestuplenij_protiv_chelovechnosti_ukrainskih.html
https://dosie.su/obshestvo/20421-za-chto-srazhaetsya-ukraina-ubivaya-zhiteley-donbassa.html
https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/222531/
https://rg.ru/2022/02/24/pochemu-zapad-naotrez-otkazyvalsia-videt-stradaniia-donbassa.html
https://sputnik.by/20220224/prestupleniya-vlastey-ukrainy-protiv-mirnykh-zhiteley-1060763572.html

 No.521705

>>521699
i'll try and find it, might take a little while

 No.521706

>>521700
If you wish to reduce it down to such vulgar levels of "bad thing happened at workplace" then go ahead, I do not wish to discuss things further with you

 No.521707

>>521702
Link plz. Also why not watch it on cytube?
I'm at work so I can't participate.

 No.521708

>>521705
thank you

 No.521709

>>521706
you know it's okay to not know what a certain term actually means

 No.521710

>>521697
>No more deluded by reaction
>On tyrants only we’ll make war
>The soldiers too will take strike action
>They’ll break ranks and fight no more
>And if those cannibals keep trying
>To sacrifice us to their pride
>They soon shall hear the bullets flying
>We’ll shoot the generals on our own side.

 No.521711

>>521703
The price of men= capable and women= helpless view of things.

 No.521712

>>521693
The only moral and realistic option now is indeed a quick victory for the Russians. A slugfest lasting months only means more innocent lives lost and destroyed infrastructure.

 No.521713

File: 1645787768737.mp4 (549.94 KB, 320x584, S6MieNrs7L0atCVk.mp4)

>>521605
>They don't bomb civilians.
You don't fight a war in the modern age without bombing civilians whether or not that's your intention

 No.521714

>>521707
Dude I'm tired as hell I think I got you mixed up with another anon? In any case, Lavrov's speech is over and the live stream didn't allow it to stream on third party websites anyway.

 No.521715

>>521704
>who are predominantly ethnic Russians, for 8 years.

No, they are like 20% Russian. They were shelling Ukrainians, ffs.

 No.521716

>>521685
How did Russia attack first when Ukrainian forces have been killing thousands of civilians in Donbas for 8 years?

 No.521717

>>521713
>still no context for this video

Yep, I assume it's a military town, and the jet has hit some military object behind living bloc

 No.521718

>>521713
yeah, there is no such thing as a humane war since avoiding wounding and killing civs in nearly impossible.

 No.521719

So this is what being a nazi feels like

 No.521720

Warmongering retards got their war qnd now civilians are dying. Eat more shit from Putins propaganda hole.

 No.521721

>>521716
You are swallowing the Russian's side whole. You should look at the bigger picture. You will see that both America/NATO and Russia are bad and this is a kind of nationalist conflict, although it's true that the Ukraine side has a tendency toward ethnic cleansing. Russia is an imperiliast country, albeit weakened but there should be no trust to it.

 No.521722

>>521677
The national bourgeoise are more progressive than the imperialist bourgeoise according to marxist theory. The imperialist bourgeoise is the most reactionary bourgeoise and is wholly uninvolved in production, unlike the national bourgeoise. The national bourgeoise also doesn't obviously practice imperialism, but limits it's exploitation to the domestic proletariat, instead of exploiting entire nations and bribing off their own working-class. This is true of Russia, as they have their own proletariat and doesn't have a parasitic relation to the global South, their economy can rather easily be transformed into a socialist one when the proletariat takes charge.
Russia should be critically supported as a weapon against the Western labor aristocracy and imperialism.
The imperialist forces are the main enemy, even the Russian Communist Party says this because they knew that an imperialist war is not a solution.
https://cprf.ru/2022/02/gennady-zyuganov-it-is-time-to-put-a-stop-to-natos-actions-to-turn-ukraine-into-a-fascist-state-2/
Multipolar divisions in the bourgeoisie economy has always created favourable territory for future communist insurrection.

>>521685
>Both sides are bad. Russia is slightly more bad because it attacks first
Fatherless viewpoint tbqh

 No.521723

>>521713
ASB pointed out that's a Ukrainian SU27. Either they were intentionally attacking their own population or they are retarded. Matches consistently with the pilot that deserted to Romania: He didn't want to execute these things.
Ukrainians' command wants to make people hate Russians as much as possible (consistent with the order that everyone must take molotovs cocktails and throw to Russians military)

 No.521724

>>521719
Yes, Ukrainian armed forces have been killing civilians in Donetsk and Lugansk for 8 years, and torturing prisoners of war. That's as nazi as you can get, especially when you're also a fan of Bandera and Shukhevych.

 No.521725

>>521719
>>521720
Peace was never an option.
Better this than escalating the nuclear option with NATO missiles right on Russias border

 No.521726

>>521714
I'm some other anon. I was curious what you're referring to.

Thanks for the updates. And got you, regarding the streaming of third party websites.

Sleep, comrade!
>>521717
There's no indication that it's a military town. I want to believe that they were being efficient with their bombings and hence bombing a random ass town makes no sense, but who knows.

It could also have been a random rural airplane runway. The strike was very close too.
>>521722
based post.

 No.521727

File: 1645788124359.mp4 (19.55 MB, 1920x1080, Lavrov Neonazis.mp4)

>>521689
Cool. I was trying to record his last answer but was kind of long. I felt discouraged by the response. But I should just do whatever.

 No.521728

>>521720
Did Putin's propaganda make the Ukraine defense ministry's official twitter account announce the conscription of Ukrainian children?
They'll only stop dying with a Russian victory. May Bentley hang up the victory banner in Maidan square beside the battered corpse of Yuri Galushkin.

 No.521729

>Ukraine: EVERYONE NEEDS TO TAKE UP IN ARMS GENERAL MOBILIZATION, NO AGE REQUIREMENTS.
>Also Ukraine: Women won't be mobilized.
Not very woke from you.

 No.521730

HOLY SHIT HASBULLA HAS JUST BEEN DROPPED ON KIEV

Its over

 No.521731

Are there any independent reporting over the situation during the last years or are there only Russian and western sources that are mirror image of each others?

 No.521732

>>521722
What is fatherless viewpoint ?

 No.521733

>>521731
>mirror image of each other

FFS, Russian sources are reliable, while Ukrainian sources are just pure comedy at this point.

 No.521734

>>521722
>The national bourgeoise are more progressive than the imperialist bourgeoise according to marxist theory
show me
>The national bourgeoise also doesn't obviously practice imperialism
lul
>but limits it's exploitation to the domestic proletariat, instead of exploiting entire nations and bribing off their own working-class
you really don't know much on anything
>their economy can rather easily be transformed into a socialist one when the proletariat takes charge.
and i'm sure supporting its bourgeoise will help that happen right?
>The imperialist forces are the main enemy, even the Russian Communist Party says this
the Russian Communist Party also encourages collaboration with the orthodox church

 No.521735

>>521732
almost certainly something reactionary

 No.521736

Just an observation. Western hemisphere goes to bed/asleep and the post quality in these generals noticeably improves.

Hmm

 No.521737

>>521718
You can see this very clearly in the footage where there are civilians just milling around or driving down the street while there's artillery landing around them. It's just not possible to evacuate the whole population – and what mass evac would mean is a huge refugee crisis spilling over into other Eastern European countries anyways. Civilians have comprised most deaths in conflict since World War II because of urbanization. There are simply too many people nowadays to wage a conflict without killing a lot of them.

>>521723
>ASB pointed out that's a Ukrainian SU27.
ASB is a Russian shill account though that gets a lot of things wrong.

 No.521738

File: 1645788272832.png (1.85 MB, 1120x1792, hrkafnj.png)

Urgent! Joint Statement of Communist and Workers’ Parties

No to the imperialist war in Ukraine!

An independent struggle is needed against monopolies and bourgeois classes, for the overthrow of capitalism, for the strengthening of the class struggle against imperialist war, for socialism!

http://www.solidnet.org/article/Urgent-Joint-Statement-of-Communist-and-Workers-Parties-No-to-the-imperialist-war-in-Ukraine/

 No.521739

>>521737
>ASB is a Russian shill account though that gets a lot of things wrong.
name one.
so far they have debunked ukrainian dissinfo much more than they get things wrong, in this particular scenario.

 No.521740

>>521735
But my opinion is good though.

 No.521741

>>521738
Insanely based as usual

 No.521742

>>521734
They do but only in the context of a colonized country which Russia is not.

 No.521743

>>521738
Where are these comrades from?

 No.521744

>>521737
>ASB is a Russian shill account though that gets a lot of things wrong.
>>521739 (me)
Also, what has anything to do with the point of ukrainians attacking ukrainians? instead of a strawman criticizing the source, can you debunk it?

 No.521745

File: 1645788539115.png (33.93 KB, 545x223, 456548968450654.png)

>>521739
This. I follow them but this account is like other WAR_INTEL or OSINT accounts that spam everything without checking whether it's true or not.

 No.521746

>>521721
>>521734
>Russia is an imperiliast country, albeit weakened but there should be no trust to it.
>you really don't know much on anything
No, they are not imperialist. You make the mistake of most people and is to talk about imperialism without knowing what imperialism is outside of the liberal definition. Read Lenin and then you'll see how what Russia is doing is not imperialism at all and in reality you'll see how Russia foreign policy is the greatest anti imperialist force in the world right now. If you read Lenin you should remember how imperialism has defined characteristics for what concern capital merging and export, concentration of production and internationalization of capitalism. If you remember is the export of capital distinguished from the export of commodities. The imperialist definition simply don't fit Russia's policy.
>and i'm sure supporting its bourgeoise will help that happen right?
Russia is on the opposite fighting against imperialism, by Lenin's own words, the highest stage of capitalism. The national bourgeois of Russia are fighting capitalism like a socialist country would do, it is natural and for a socialist to support the only force that is actively fighting against international capitalism.
Now if you're not socialist or you're against Lenin and are using another definition for imperialism then is useless to continue debating, since we are talking about two different things

 No.521747

>>521738
muh both sides: the statement

 No.521748

>>521738
a boilerplate response, they know well that there is no significant domestic resistance to the war; the protests have been about the same size as regular opposition protests that occur every few months. and its unlikely that the war will drag on enough to have big effects on proles at home in russia
>>521743
Communist Party of Azerbaijan
Party of Labour of Austria
Communist Party of Bangladesh
Communist Party of El Salvador
Communist Party of Greece
Communist Party of Kurdistan-Iraq
Workers Party of Ireland
Socialist Party of Latvia
Communist Party of Mexico
New Communist Party of the Netherlands
Communist Party of Pakistan
Peruvian Communist Party
Philippines Communist Party [PKP 1930]
Romanian Socialist Party
Communist Party of the Workers of Spain
Communist Party of Sweden
Communist Party of Turkey
Union of Communists of Ukraine

Other Parties signing the Joint Statement

Communist Front (Italy)
Communist Revolutionary Party of France (PCRF)

 No.521749

File: 1645788594674.jpg (10.06 KB, 225x225, jojo-oh-lawd.jpg)

>>521738
List of signataries:
Communist Party of Azerbaijan
Party of Labour of Austria
Communist Party of Bangladesh
Communist Party of El Salvador
Communist Party of Finland
Communist Party of Greece
Communist Party of Kurdistan-Iraq
Workers Party of Ireland
Socialist Movement of Kazakhstan
Socialist Party of Latvia
Communist Party of Mexico
New Communist Party of the Netherlands
Communist Party of Pakistan
Peruvian Communist Party
Philippines Communist Party [PKP 1930]
Romanian Socialist Party
Communist Party of the Workers of Spain
Communist Party of Swaziland
Communist Party of Sweden
Communist Party of Turkey
Union of Communists of Ukraine
oh wow.

 No.521750

>>521748
Wow so this is like a big international group of communist groups

 No.521751

>>521746
They do fit you just don't admit it. Just remember Putin is student of Yeltsin, they are two sides of the same coin named Russian bourgeouis which had made the workers unemployed by the millions in the 1990s, they had allowed the CIA to set foot on Russia back then (Putin's words, look it up, it's not like that anymore but still).

 No.521752

File: 1645788660777.jpg (112 KB, 800x800, 1.jpg)

>>521715
How and when? Ukrainian armed forces and neo-nazi battalions have been shelling the break-away republics throughout the war, and from the start.

Picrel is a few days before Russian operation started.
https://www.9111.ru/questions/7777777771739625/

 No.521753

>>521748
How many of those Parties associate with China's CPC?

 No.521754

>>521603
>AMOGUS

 No.521755

>Petro Poroshenko asking NATO for help with sanctions and sheit
As he talks with CNN from an alley surrounded by merc bodyguards
What is this timeline?

 No.521756

Reminder that literally all of this is Boris Yeltsin's fault.

 No.521757

>>521746
show me the texts by lenin that would somehow support russia

 No.521758

>>521749 (me)
>The decision of the Russian Federation to initially recognize the “independence” of the so-called “Peoples’ Republics” in Donbas and then to proceed to a Russian military intervention, which is taking place under the pretext of Russia’s “self-defence”, the “demilitarization” and “defascistization” of Ukraine, was not made to protect the people of the region or peace but to promote the interests of Russian monopolies in Ukrainian territory and their fierce competition with Western monopolies.
This is a lie. Russia lost already many interests in the west to protect Donbas, and to secure territory in its neighborhood.
Only in the U.s. they have been seized a lot of assets.
These people… I swear god.

 No.521759

>>521752
There was a Ukrainian census in 2001 which said that Donbass is like 20% Russian ethnically.

 No.521760

>>521738
Trots gonna trot

 No.521761

>>521748
>>521748
>Communist Party of Bangladesh

> Communist Party of Pakistan


OH NO NO NO
Fucking CPI where are you guys

 No.521762

>>521748
>Peruvian Communist Party
uh based
i'm guessing this is not shining path lol

 No.521763

>>521750
a big international group whose collective membership can be contained in a convention center, but this is the case with all communist groups now lol

 No.521764

>>521763
Which is the biggest international communist group

 No.521765

>>781610
you spend too much time on the internet

 No.521766

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1497165145004515328?s=20&t=kbDX6QS_KWMBpJcAlff-NQ
Zelensky is hiding in a bunker while the military is telling civvies to lob molotovs at the Russians. Talk about second time as a farce.

 No.521767

>>781607
Never in my life will I ever trust the americans

 No.521768

File: 1645788863271.mp4 (653.08 KB, 238x432, 5248538492271242959.MP4)

Chechen forces leaving for Ukraine.

 No.521769

SIR PLS STOP INVASION ON UKRAINE!
😭😭😭
WE'LL DO ANYTHING YOU SAY. WE'LL REJOIN RUSSIAN FEDERATION & TOGETHER BRING BACK THE GOOD OLD DAYS BUTCHERING EVIL NATO & AMERICANS!
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I'm serious. Zelensky is just a comedian, spare him

 No.521770

>>521751
Irrelevant. The Russian state of today is not the same as in the 90s, back then it was essentially a comprador state to western imperialists, now it is a national bourgeoise state. Do me a favour and look at what life was for Russians in the 90s when the western comprador bourgeoise was in charge. The current Russian government is anti-imperialist and that is the most important factor in the modern age.

 No.521771

>>521759
>Russian ethnically
tf does that means? "ethnicity" in a passport after the dissolution of the soviet union? lol

 No.521772

>>521764
International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties

 No.521773

>>781607
Holy shit take the L
Do the oligarchs have his wife and kids hostage or something?

 No.521774

imagine being these guys rightnow.
https://www.youtube.com/c/AZOVmedia/videos

 No.521775

>>781607
Where is the Afghanistan president I wonder

He dipped as soon as possible, Is he still alive

 No.521776

File: 1645788933582.mp4 (54.62 MB, 1920x1080, lavrove neonazis 2.mp4)

>>521727
Goddamn, took me took me 5 tries to make this vid. I hope someone here appreciates it.

 No.521777


 No.521778

>>521776
I fully hate it
(I have not watched it yet)

 No.521779

>>521720
The warmongering retards were always in ukraine.

 No.521780

File: 1645789033939.jpg (124.41 KB, 512x1024, 1cl1bmctfb541.jpg)

>Mfw suddenly Leninhat and King Lear become some of the sanest posters overnight, because everyone else drank the Putinoid coolaid

 No.521781

>>521745
Odessa was a ruse, kept hohols from using their reserves

 No.521782

>>521764
That one actually, but the parties that signed that statement all seem like pretty small parties that are part of it. There are other communist parties in Solidnet including all the governing one.

>>521763
Well the CPC is a member so hope that convention center can fit 90 million people lol ;-)

 No.521783

FIGHT IN CENTER OF KIEV WAS YET ANOTHER FRIENDLY FIRE INCIDENT, PRIVATE GUARD OF ZELENSKY OPENED FIRE ON UKRAINIAN VOLKSTURM REGIMENTS

 No.521784

>>521751
Also I like how you contradicted yourself in your post even though you want to die on the "Russia is still imperialist" hill
>They do fit you just don't admit it
>it's not like that anymore but still

 No.521785

File: 1645789088854.jpg (4.21 MB, 1296x9557, 27828383.jpg)

>>521728
i beleive its 18-60 conscription

 No.521786

>>521760
None of those parties are trots

 No.521787

>>521780
I didn't see that twist coming

 No.521788

>>521770
Putin anti-imperialist you say ? Don't make me laugh. If he is so good he would have long recreated the Soviet Union.
Oh you deluded people who think Putin is somehow a leftist. It's so funny.

 No.521789

>>521771
What ties people to an ethny may be mire sooky than grounded in a material basis, however that do not stop them from influencing their perception of themselves and how they interact and are treated by others.

 No.521790

>>521647
>Fog, fog and more fog
Wow, the weather has been complete shit and it still didn't even slow the Russians

 No.521791

>>521789
*more pooky

 No.521792

>>781610
oh no! some leninhat on an imageboard thinks im a chauvinist or whatever for wanting russia to win and end this conflict
how would I live with in!~

 No.521793

>>521791
spooky*

 No.521794

>>521782
>Well the CPC is a member
I am talking about the signatories to the letter. Of course the CPC is resolutely supporting Russia in its invasion and would never sign such an anti-war letter.

 No.521795

>>521781
>Odessa was a ruse, kept hohols from using their reserves
Yuh huh. It was a ruse. You're the war correspondent on the ground who knows everything that's happening instead of pulling random stuff out of the air because NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

 No.521796

>>521776
Still not as heated as Trump vs. Acosta

 No.521797

>>521770
And btw if he is so good why have he not seized the properties of the oligarch ? Oh wait, he is one of them. Surprise surprise!

 No.521798

>>521780
Fake, I'm the sanest poster alive

 No.521799

>>521785
Jesus fucking christ

 No.521800

>>521782
>Well the CPC is a member
Yo that's like official shit

Is his party old or something , from world war ii
It's origins must be deep for them to be party

 No.521801

>>521738
>Communist Party of Mexico
This removes all credibility from this statement. Are the other communist parties listed any good?

 No.521802

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
PLEASE HELP! STOP THE INVASION! WE'LL SUBMIT TO RUSSIA & EMPEROR PUTIN & EMPEROR XI!
😭😭😭
WE'RE VERY SORRY. WE WON'T DO IT AGAIN. NEVER AGAIN BEFRIEND WITH NATO AMERICANS!

 No.521803

>>521785
13 year old and 69 year olds rejoicing by shitting in their pants and playing Fortnite respectively

 No.521804

>>521801
Why is the communist party of Mexico now sus?

 No.521805

>>521802
when you were a little child did you ever think that you would grow up to post shit like this?

 No.521806

>>521802
Stop it anon
Those fucking emojis are killing me, Stop making me laugh

This shit is seriious, Oh

 No.521807

>>521785
LOOK AT ALL THAT MALE PRIVILEGE

 No.521808

>>521807
we need to send our incels from leftypol to ukraine

doesn't matter what side, just send y'all over
scoot scoot

 No.521809

>>521776
Great vid. Thank you.

 No.521810

down with the vlaslovite pugilists

 No.521811

>>521802
>Dragging off anti-war protestors into buses
Many hyperonlines who cheered on Floyd protests will defend this.

 No.521812

>>521788
>went from comprador state to national bourgeoisie
>Putin is somehow a leftist
you're a fucking retard with 0 nuance in your atrophied brain. You can be against foreign exploitation of your country for nationalist capitalist reasons

 No.521813

>>521802
A REMINDER that those in here engaging in revolutionary defeatism, to justify their "neither side" haven't weakened their states, and give pathetic excuses.
They must camp now on the liberal spectrum where they get things done in 24 hours.

 No.521814

>>521788
>>521797
>Putin anti-imperialist you say ? Don't make me laugh.
Russia is anti-imperialist.
>If he is so good he would have long recreated the Soviet Union. Oh you deluded people who think Putin is somehow a leftist. It's so funny.
>And btw if he is so good why have he not seized the properties of the oligarch ? Oh wait, he is one of them. Surprise surprise!
Yes, I know. Notice how this tramp now frames this conversation about putin in order to imply I uncritically support Phtin's politics. Do you understand "critical" in "critical support"? Obviously, we are not supporting Putin's politics and everyone fully shares the ideal of a Marxist-Leninist rebirth in Russia by the victory of the Russian Communist Party. However, this is an ideal, nothing more. Right now it is natural for socialists to support one of the biggest anti-imperialist forces that is actively fighting against international capitalism.

 No.521815

>>521810
>vlaslovite pugilists


what's that

 No.521816


 No.521817

>>521789
>however that do not stop them from influencing their perception of themselves and how they interact and are treated by others
the same as other people in central russia? anyway, "ethnicity" in a passport at the dissolution of the soviet union was decided by a simple fact "lives on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR? ukrainian it is then"

 No.521818

File: 1645789551271.mp4 (6.12 MB, 848x464, 1936499179528215366.MP4)

10000+ Chechens being sent to Ukraine.

 No.521819

>>521813
> revolutionary defeatis
what is that anon

>haven't weakened their states, and give pathetic excuses.


i don't get it

 No.521820

Is Russia fertile ground for a communist revolution

 No.521821

>>521805
Me as a kid in history class: i kinda like the Soviet Union, very interesting
Me years later in leftypol: DEATH TO AMERIKKKA, DEATH TO NATO, LONG LIVE WORLD COMMUNISM

 No.521822

>>521811
What do you propose should be done with liberals destabilizing the country during the war?

 No.521823

>>521802
These are tussian liberals

 No.521824

>>521818
EIGHTEEN NAKED CHECHENS

 No.521825

>>521804
Cult of personality retards that cover up sexual abuse and harassment. Funded by the KKE. Absolute clowns that LARP as unironic Stalinists cult of personality party, despite being irrelevant.

They have good international relations, that's about it. Part of the reason why they're funded by the KKE. I really wish they didn't.

 No.521826

File: 1645789650973.png (18.41 KB, 624x699, russia arms sales.png)

>>521814
>Russia is anti-imperialist.
lmao, come on, you can't seriously be arguing that

 No.521827

>>521825
>It's the anti-KKE retard once again.

 No.521828

File: 1645789683718.jpeg (84.1 KB, 1320x743, 16457392097225.jpeg)

Sean Penn received $200,000 from Ukrainian lobbyists in the USA for coming to Kiev

 No.521829

>>521825
sadge

who are the KKE

 No.521830

>>521819
i'm not that retarded hyperonline anon but revolutionary defeatism is a communist revolutionary tactic where the proletariat who have been forced to fight in a imperialist war abstain from contributing to the war efforts since any outcome of the war does not benefit the proletariat, it was used to great effect during the russian revolution.

 No.521831

>>521785
>I'm so inconsolably happy to be in the EU.
Gonna be a real wakeup call for this lad when he gets all the wholesome EU anti-refugee hate.

 No.521832

>>521831
my question is why wasn't he conscripted

 No.521833

>>521818
You're not going believe this

 No.521834

>>521829
It's the Communist Party of Greece

 No.521835

>>521827
I have literally NEVER posted about the KKE.
From what I read they are a highly respectable party. I am merely saying that I wish they didn't fund the PCM. There are less insane/retarded/rapist parties that could use the money in Mexico.

 No.521836

>>521819
leninhat, sabotard, in some less regard the tards that applaud them like grillschizo and king lear, who don't say explicitly but support them in a very fetishistic way of spamming attentionwhoreing among namephagets/banderafags

 No.521837

>>521826
>selling the most to angola
based

 No.521838

>>521819
He mad because Anons who do not support Russia or Ukraine aren't on the street right now to protest war which makes them hypocrites of some sort

 No.521839

>>521826
>imperialism is when arms sales.

 No.521840


 No.521841

>>521826
Nice chart. If you remember from Lenin, the export of capital distinguished from the export of commodities. The imperialist definition still don't fit Russia's policy.

 No.521842

Anyone watching the maidan square livestream? No idea if what I'm hearing is fighting in the distance or if it's just the wind

 No.521843

>>521840
who listens to her anymore lol

 No.521844

>>521801
The Italian one is an absolutely irrelevant sect. They're 10 people at BEST.

 No.521845

>>521726
Ah it all makes sense now
>Sleep, comrade!
Thank you brother, I will. Have a good one.

 No.521846

>>521830
>it was used to great effect during the russian revolution.

wow that sounds incredible, did they use it during WWI?

did it work

>>521838
>aren't on the street right now to protest war

I wonder what effect covid is gonna have to all this war and protesting

 No.521847

>>521842
sounds like mostly ambient traffic noise

 No.521848

>>521835
>From what I read they are a highly respectable party. I am merely saying that I wish they didn't fund the PCM. There are less insane/retarded/rapist parties that could use the money in Mexico.
Despite all of what you have said, the Communist Party of Mexico forced their hand with the goverment to send help to the republic of Spain during the civil war and was the party that offered more help aside from the CPSU and forced their hand once again when the spanish refugees started migrating to Mexico escaping the regime. Have at least some respect for them, cause they were probably the only communist party in the world who had the balls to do so.

 No.521849

>>521846
>wow that sounds incredible, did they use it during WWI?
yes
>did it work
yes

 No.521850

>>521840
brave, as always

 No.521851


 No.521852

>>521846
yes it worked, look up October Revolution

 No.521853

>>521840
what difference does a congress do? like they are some high, wise elders?

 No.521854

File: 1645790025075.mp4 (3.51 MB, 640x336, IMG_3884.MP4)

Uh… azov broskis…?

 No.521855

>>521848
They're not the same parties

 No.521856

>>521852
no no I meant in like WWI, did it work
revolutionary defeatism, not contributing to the imperialist war

 No.521857


 No.521858

>>521854
chechens gonna pump that nazi femboypussy full of cum

 No.521859

>>521856
yes it created huge dissent among soldiers in the military and slowed the war effort considerably. look at the effect of this declaration of the Petrograd Soviet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrograd_Soviet_Order_No._1

 No.521860

>>521841
ok fine, what about the nuclear reactor deals in rwanda (and like 3 other african countries) that have them build a reactor in return for owning them (as in russia retains the rights to some profits and co-owns the property with the rwandan state)? that falls under the definition pretty squarely doesn't it?

 No.521861

I heard Zelensky now wants to negotiate and make Ukraine neutral. Sounds like this will be over very soon.

 No.521862

>>521856
yes, that's mainly where the tactic was used

 No.521863

File: 1645790212142.gif (1.17 MB, 498x371, mj-michael-jackson.gif)

So what kind of new retarded hyperonline twitter wars do you all see happening due to Ukraine? My prediction:
>Liberal leaning leftists become interventionist warhawks
>No true scotsman attacks against anyone pacifist or anti-both-sides
>Patsocs entering full tard rage in deffence of Russia

 No.521864

>>521862
>>521859
We need to learn, Sounds useful
There's gonna be shit like this a lot in thefuture


No good guys

 No.521865


 No.521866

>>521848
Historic PCM =/= Rapist PCM
The historic PCM was merged into the PSUM.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partido_Socialista_Unificado_de_M%C3%A9xico

The rapist PCM is rather new and claimed the centenary history of the historic and based PCM.

 No.521867

>>521863
get a job

 No.521868

>>521859
yeah, but the idea of those promoters in here, that sperg 24/7 'muh neither side' is that they do their part. They'd love to see Russia fail ("to communists" when the only weakening Russia are libtards) but they won't weaken theirs.
Totally annoying.

 No.521869

>>521831
>>521832
He's an American journalist

 No.521870

>>521866
>Eurocommunism.

 No.521871

>>521863
we're all gonna get called nazbols/red fash for not being cool with CIA-trained Nazi battalions

 No.521872

>>521868
what the fuck are you talking about?

 No.521873

>>521853
the constitution says congress is supposed to declare war/authorize military force, rather than the president just deciding alone. But, since 9/11 especially, the president has mostly just bombed wherever he felt like, so she's trying to say we should have to pay attention to the constitution here and vote on it if Biden wants to bomb shit.

 No.521874

the worst parts of these threads are the insufferable faggots who constantly post "muh both sides" instead of enjoying the happening

 No.521875

>>521874
>instead of enjoying the happening
very normal thing to say

 No.521876

>>521872
See the chain of thoughts:
>>521802
>>521813
>>521859
>>521868

 No.521877


 No.521878

>>521874
>spectacle booois
lib

 No.521879

File: 1645790413903.jpg (168.59 KB, 728x818, 85625626539679367.jpg)

>>521874
>enjoying the happening

 No.521880

File: 1645790471094.png (66.55 KB, 187x270, ClipboardImage.png)

>>521868
>"to communists" when the only weakening Russia are libtards)

Men, Today we are going to create communists in Russia

Let's gooooo

 No.521881

>>521875
>>521878
>>521879
you are on /leftypol/ you retards

 No.521882

>>521874
Kill yourself you inhuman scum. You deserve a month in a nazi concentration camp as rehabilitation of your post-irony rotten brain. Maybe that will make you realize the human cost of "happenings"

 No.521883

>>521881
How do I get off

 No.521884

>>521805
>>521806
>>521811
>>521813
>>521823
😭🙏🏼😭🙏🏼😭🙏🏼😭🙏🏼
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! WE WANT TO LIVE! THOSE AZOV SCUMS & NATO AMERICANS SUCKERS SHALL GO AWAY FROM UKRAINE! RUSSIA & CHINA HAS ALREADY SHOWN THEIR MIGHT OVER AMERICANS & ITS ALLIES!
😭🙏🏼😭🙏🏼😭🙏🏼😭🙏🏼
PLEASE SIR! MAKE IT STOP! WE TIRED OF WAR, WAR ISN'T THE SOLUTION! WE'LL ACCEPT UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!

 No.521885

>>521881
>you are on /leftypol/ you retards
Indeed, because of that, we need to be edgelords, it says so in the /leftypol/ constitution that we need to be as fucking asinine as possible in order to wreck the libs.

 No.521886

>>521884
SHUT UP

STOP IT!!!!

 No.521887

>>521882
>nazi
Saying the quiet part out loud there friendo.

 No.521888

>>521851
>An emergency brake isn't needed for those who serve in VDV
lol

 No.521889

File: 1645790603256.mp4 (1.02 MB, 246x432, 4458819951819374544.MP4)

Ukrainian volkssturm handed ammunition, real Battle of Berlin hours.

 No.521890

>>521874
>noooo you have to consoom muh happooning MY way

 No.521891


 No.521892

>>521874
You can't have both "enjoy the happening" and "noooo you must support Russia at all costs." Either you're a nihilist or you're a partisan. You can't be both.

 No.521893

>>521882
anon, what use does it serve really
if he laughs or not

will the blood stop spilling, if these people stop desensitizing themselves?

 No.521894

>>521892
what about being an absurdist

 No.521895

>>521881
There is a difference between commenting on a situation and cheering on a war that won't really benefit anyone but some Porkys.

 No.521896

>>521811
The George Floyd protests were supporting U.S. puppet states?
Wtf

 No.521897

>>521874
what annoys me is the insufferable psudointellectualists adhered to orthodox dogmas in a religious belief, in which you can't ever have critical support for the actions against NATO because they hold the torch of revolution. And if you ask them for praxis, they will deflect.

 No.521898

i just want russia to win so the dialectic can advance, why the fuck do people in the thread need to apply mental gymnastics pretending that russia is somehow not an imperialist state when it absolutely is lmao

can we stop pretending that modern russia does not have imperialist ambitions? it is one of the most retarded takes a marxist can have, it is literally muh feels because usa is bad, lets at least keep our analysis coherent for the love of god guys

 No.521899

>>521861
Russia gonna regime change. No point in having a hostile state after all of this work

 No.521900

>>521892
You can have both if your side is winning without much effort.

 No.521901

>>521874
i watch these things like a natural disaster unfolding, there's not really anything i can do to stop it so i just look for updates and whatever videos get posted. people don't argue over whether you should support volcanoes or hurricanes so those discussions are usually less annoying

 No.521902

>>521604
goo goo gaga

 No.521903

File: 1645790793414.png (236.5 KB, 279x445, ClipboardImage.png)

>>521870
The destroyers of 20th century socialism.

Do yall think Berlinguer foresaw such wreckage when he came up with his little trend?

 No.521904

>>521880
kek, and many anons in here were applauding those anti-war protest like if you see one fucking communist driving force in the march, and not a bunch of libs with harrypotter yellow/blue books saying sorry in anglo language.

 No.521905

>>521860
Same as the "muh belt and road" talking point. Russia isn't economically exploiting any countries like the west is. The nuclear power plants built for third world countries are intended to liberate them from western fossil fuel dependency, I'd say that's a great example of anti-imperialism.

 No.521906

>>521901
keep telling yourself that breeder
critical support to volcanoists to destroy the human menace

inshallah the earth will be liberated of the insects

 No.521907

>>521905
>Russia isn't economically exploiting any countries like the west is
it is literally going to collect rent on the plants once they are built, how the fuck is that not exploitation?

 No.521908

>>521898
>i just want russia to win so the dialectic can advance
you accuse others of having retarded takes yet you apparently never learned about WW1 and the Marxist response to it

 No.521909

>>781773
Shut the fuck up Posads
Now is not the time

 No.521910

>>521905
>When one side does it's bad.
>If the other side does it's good.

 No.521911

>>521822
Yelling slogans while holding signs is destabilizing a country? What did they disrupt exaclty?

 No.521912

This would be so much funnier if Trump were president and still allowed on Twitter

 No.521913

honestly what's wrong with a nuclear war ending the world?

Prehaps a more intelligent lifeform can rise from the ashes a million years later

 No.521914

>>521908
>WW1 and the Marxist response to it
NTA but tell me pls

 No.521915

>>521908
are you saying the dialectic did not advance post ww1? because wow

 No.521916

>>521898
>posted from an imperialist country

 No.521917

>>521912
As if, what would he say that would be funny at all

 No.521918

>>521916
*posted from A country

 No.521919

>>521911
Yes, actually.
If the way governments conduct psyops is any indication, it is.

 No.521920

>>521918
liberate yourself anons
bomb a border patrol station today! and post here

 No.521921

>>521822
Damn right, man! We will show those good for nothing librul hippies why we went to Vietnam with our batons!

 No.521922

>>521911
The first guy was calling for Putin to be arrested. Like it or not Putin is the legitimate leader and this is a really bad time for Russia to have a succession crisis, but you know that perfectly well.

 No.521923

>>521917
He would say something idiotic like confusing Ukraine with Russia or calling it a shit hole country so who cares. A bunch of libs would get impotently mad.
And nothing would changed compared to what we're seeing now.

 No.521924

>>521822
Re-education

 No.521925

Putinbros…

 No.521926

>>521922
>succession crisis
true
i watched a documentary about that on HBO

 No.521927

>>521910
Yes.
Elaborate further? No, I don't think I will

 No.521928

>>521927
are you really in ukraine

 No.521929

>>521905
Purely from an economic point of view, Russia is "semi-imperialist": it's a capitalist semi-center with its own peripheries. But that's not a moral judgement. It's just that Russia is the only post-socialist state which managed to create a national bourgeoisie, whereas the rest of post-socialist states became comprador regimes.

 No.521930

>>521866
So they're like the CPGB-ML in the UK, lmao

 No.521931

>>521928
he's not, he's an expat posting from an imperialist country lmao

 No.521932

>>521923
Or he would have thrown Ukraine under the bus like he did with the kurds.

 No.521933

>>521907
>it is literally going to collect rent on the plants once they are built
NTA just one small question

Is china not planning on collecting rent? for the stuff it is building in africa and what not

 No.521934

>>521932
….Just like Biden
Come on lib, keep up

 No.521935

>>521822
Don't waste time engaging with him, he will not destabilize his liberal western country. Is a poser, and should be militating in the liberal camp doing some praxis chanting we are the world, we are the children with yellow/blue candles

 No.521936

>>521932
Didn't he already do that
Something happened with him and Ukraine president
Some quid pro quid shit

 No.521937

File: 1645791315121-0.jpg (165.8 KB, 979x1280, 1564765030308.jpg)

Members of Communist Party of Russian Federation, Left Front, Revolutionary Workers' Party, Russian Socialist Movement and Left Socialist Action signed a statement condemning Putin's invasion of Ukraine and asking to immediately stop the aggression.

 No.521938

>>521889
why is zelensky offering surrender on one hand and giving everyone guns on the other? it's gonna be a massacre if those poor guys are sent out to fight

 No.521939

>>521933
they are and when they can't pay the debt (which is usually the case) china just takes the plant as payment, literally the same tactics that the US uses when it "nation builds"

 No.521940

>>521812
No you are for dreaming of Putin's "national liberation" credo. That's like calling Xi Jinping a loyal communist.

 No.521941

>>521861
He's not in a position to negotiate. He has to give Russia what they want.

 No.521942

>>521928
I am a sexpat

 No.521943

>President Zelensky has signalled that Ukraine is open to negotiating Kyiv’s neutrality, however, it must also receive security guarantees.
<LAVROV: “Moscow would be ready to negotiate with Ukraine only when the Ukrainian military lays down its weapons.”

 No.521944

>>521814
Putin is by no mean a anti-imperialist force you delusional person.

 No.521945

>>521937
The Russian community party supports Putin

 No.521946

>>521939
So
China is i-imperialist???

 No.521947

>>521942
so not in the UK

 No.521948


 No.521949

>>521934
Nah, Biden's administration will keep pumping up weapons in hopes that Ukraine will turn into Afghanistan/Iraq draining Russia. Trump would just leave it be.

 No.521950

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>>521863
Yup, seems like a plausible outcome. AOC just announced to support military intervention. Therefore, her simps will follow.
Since day one, Voosh asked for Russian blood. Therfore, his shills will follow.

 No.521951


 No.521952

>>521874
t. spectacle riddled brain incapable of functioning normally since years ago

 No.521953

>>521945
The dominant christian traditionalist nationalist wing supports Putin, yes

 No.521954

>>521950
Agent Kochinski is a massive soy chugging faggot. Send him to the frontlines along with every other libshit twitch streamer.

 No.521955

>>521943
the main objective is already reached, which was to destroy the military capacity of ukraine.

 No.521956

>>521480
>there are no age restrictions
Not even two days into this conflict and the hohols are already forming a Volkssturm.

 No.521957

>>521952
t. retard who cannot separate internet from real life

 No.521958

>>521937
https://cprf.ru/2022/02/the-people-of-ukraine-must-not-be-a-victim-of-world-capital-and-oligarchic-clans-statement-of-the-cprf-cc-presidium%ef%bf%bc/

They want to de-nazificate Ukraine.

>The CPRF proceeds from the need to dismantle the results of many years of efforts to Banderize Ukraine. Real policy on its territory is in many ways dictated by rabid nationalists. They terrorize Ukrainian people and foist on the authorities an aggressive political course. By caving in to this pressure Zelensky betrayed the interests of his fellow-citizens who had elected him as a president of peace in Donbass and good-neighborly relations with Russia.


I still remember the copying tards in here before the war declaration when I told them they drafted the DBR recognition resolution signed by Putin, as if these people didn't know what they were doing. JFC.

 No.521959

>>521957
Project less and seek a shrink

 No.521960

>>521950
reserve clips of this stuttering retard for ITG

 No.521961

>>521738
>>521937
These are wrong communists

 No.521962

>>521950
Why did you even clip this retard?

 No.521963

>>521958
Do you know who Zyuganov is? He is generally hated in the party

 No.521964

>>521937
What did they have to say to the about the Donbass war, the euromaidan and the refusal of Ukraine to implement Minsk2 as well as threatening to join NATO while the west pumps military aid into them?

Because if it's just Putin bad, now, then whatever.

 No.521965

>>521914
two things:
one, others have already mentioned it, the concept is called revolutionary defeatism and Lenin advocated for it. wars between the imperialist powers, or their proxies, have no purpose to the proletariat or the other lower classes - the common folk in other words. the solution is to act as what the US in its propaganda has termed "the fifth column", to give up arms, agitate against one's country entering the war, sabotaging one's country's war effort. you get the idea.

two, the socialist internationale split following WW1 and the reason was whether to take sides or not. the Marxist answer was simple: no war but the class war. national chauvinists out!

the devastation brought by WW1 led to the "blackest reaction" that we saw in WW2. you know that one I'm sure.

 No.521966

>>521938
Either he his completely overwhelmed by all this or he is some 4D chess master
>Want peace with Russia
>Can't do it with Nazoids taking part with your governement
>Let Nazoids take up arms and send themselves to the meatgrinder
>Can now make peace with little internal opposition.

 No.521967

>>521958
lol critical support for Sadam to denazify iran

 No.521968

This dude really said /leftypol/ is not real life and got a million (You)s

 No.521969

>>521902
The mf did it, but can't communicate how he achieved success.
>>521903
What the fuck does eurocommunism even fucking mean, especially in the context of Mexico?
>>521968
Whomst've?

 No.521970

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 No.521971

>>521964
Left Front and CPRF are pro-LDPR, Russian Socialist Movement condemned ethnic nationalists taking over Eastern Ukraine

 No.521972

>>521933
>>521939
the terms china offers are consistently better than western countries and they constantly restructure loans or just write off huge chunks of it. china seizing assets is a scaremongering tactic, the debt trap myth was invented by the west and african countries continue to look to china instead of the west for loans because they know the claims are bullshit

 No.521973

>>521939
no. US force you to take IMF loans, and then do major policy and economic law changes to cuck you out to their companies by liberalizing everything. They make sure they have the only infrastructure, the one only they need, and they never cancel debts.

China is happy just trading with your local porkies without trying to take political control of your country, cancelling debts, and helping you build your own infrastructure as long they can use it.

stop buying propaganda faggot

 No.521974


 No.521975

>>521951
b-bros…

what do i do know, where are the china bros now

 No.521976

>>521933
>Is china not planning on collecting rent?
probably. i'm not going to argue china isn't an economically imperialist state in the current global framework of capitalism, they are also buying up a lot of stuff in africa to exploit.

 No.521977

>>521971
So they are otherwise okay with NATO expansion and don't see the conflict as caused by the west?

 No.521978

>>521951
it's ok tho, they have a red flag.

 No.521979

>>521966
Zelensky is politically held hostage by neonazis, he's not on their side. So in theory this would make sense.

 No.521980

>Taliban urging restraint from both sides
lmao

 No.521981


 No.521982

I have time to elaborate now but last post because starting my shift.
>>521929
This is a good way of looking at it, as they should not be labelled imperialist and equated with the western financier capitalist hegemony. They don't economically exploiting countries like the west does, their economy is centered around oil and natural gas which is entirely within their own borders and mostly controlled by the state sector.
The long term benefits of critical support for the Russian national bourgeois, especially in their efforts to give african economies a better alternative to imperialism, heavily outweigh any short term negatives related to nuclear power plants as described here >>521907

 No.521983

>>521939
>china just takes the plant as payment
motherfucker lying faggot. Even the minister of foreign relations of the country I don't remember said that was a lie.
Fucking shit.

Jesus, the red areas are bigger now.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=180u1IkUjtjpdJWnIC0AxTKSiqK4G6Pez&ll=48.25660276410307%2C34.29313325152917&z=6

 No.521984

>>521969
A = π (R2 – r2)
Fn = Fn-1 + Fn-2

f(x, μ, σ ) = 1σ√2πe−(x−μ)22σ2 ∫cos a + a d(a) = ∫cos a da + ∫a d(a)

= 𝔡𝔦𝔞𝔩𝔢𝔠𝔱𝔦𝔠𝔰

 No.521985

>>521969
An 80s trend of "democratic communism" which was social democracy in all but name and "inspired" many parties around the world, including the CPSU under its infamous last general secretary. You get what happens next

 No.521986

>>521970
Ты в каком из отделений КПРФ состоишь? Do you know anything about Communist Party structure and different tendencies inside it? Zyuganov doesn't represent the diversity of opinions, he is a Russian clerical nationalist with some left-wing economic views and he represents this part of the party

 No.521987


 No.521988

>>521981
clowns

 No.521989

>>521943
Why should russia settle for pre-war neutrality demands when they've already invaded the country? Russia should continue until ukraine is totally occupied by friendly government.

 No.521990

This won't lead to WW3 but it is a sign of things to come.

 No.521991

>>521980
All the bothsiders in this thread are pro-Taliban now kek

 No.521992

>>521947
Yes actually, I am here to tarnish the anglo genome with my slavic sperm. English whores truly are built for the BSC

 No.521993

>>781848(me)
>>521971
I'm saying it because it's kind of funny how the CPRF put out this statement the 22nd of February:
https://cprf.ru/2022/02/gennady-zyuganov-it-is-time-to-put-a-stop-to-natos-actions-to-turn-ukraine-into-a-fascist-state-2/
>The situation on the border between Ukraine and the Donbass republics has deteriorated to the limit. Ukrainian armed units are intensifying the shelling of the territories of the DPR and LPR creating the need for a mass evacuation of the population. Simultaneously the West and pro-Western and nationalist Ukrainian media outlets are stepping up the information war against Russia. The situation obviously points to close coordination of military provocations and information aggression.

Which ends with:
"""
Everyone should be aware that democratic mechanisms in Ukraine have been abolished. After the 2014 state coup real policy on its territory is increasingly dictated by aggressive nationalist bands. Representing an absolute terrorist minority, they hold Ukrainian people in fear and impose rules of behavior on members of the political establishment. This accounts for the political transformation of Vladimir Zelensky. Elected by Ukrainians as the president of peace in Donbass and normalization of relations with Russia he became a vehicle of the opposite kind of policy.

In the current situation, the task of liberating Ukraine from the Bandera dictatorship cannot be solved by the Ukrainian people itself. The country’s civilian population is still partly able to express its opinion through what remains of parliamentary procedures, but it cannot oppose the forces of terror which are armed to the teeth. The task of denazification of Ukraine must become the key concern of the world community.
"""

So it seems quite hypocritical to start chanting "Putin Bad!" at this time.

 No.521994

>>521973
>>521939
>>521939

WHO DIO I BELIEVE
LIFE IS A FUCK

NUKE ME NOW, SAVE ME AYY LMAOS

 No.521995

>>521981
China based as always

 No.521996


 No.521997

>>521982
the point i was trying to make is that russia is absolutely hoping to become just as imperialist as the western imperialist powers. the nuclear power plants are just the beginning not the end, and the russian national bourgoisie is heavily invested in both providing energy resources as well as owning the infrastructure as globally as possible. surely this is something that we should take into account, no?

 No.521998


>>521985
Eurocommunism meant nothing in particular , communist parties were blamed for revisionism just cause they didnt agree with cpsu on everything
In practice in most states pure soviet ml and eurocommunism was the same thing

 No.521999

>>521981
WHAT THE FUCK, why would china do that

what do they get out of it, cucking the us for lulz?

 No.522000

>>521981
Oh no no no Sleepy Joe got outmaneuvered again lmao

 No.522001

File: 1645792305418.webm (7.23 MB, 1440x1080, congraturation.webm)

>>521984
>𝔡𝔦𝔞𝔩𝔢𝔠𝔱𝔦𝔠𝔰
My uygha did it.
>>521992
Based.

 No.522002

>>521992
based lmao
t. polack living in uk

 No.522003

>>521993
CPRF isn't a sentient being with single opinion. These statements represent Russian Nationalist and Marxist wings' of the party views respectively. Different people signed these statements.

 No.522004

>>521981
lmao no way, I don't believe this

 No.522005

>>521486
When did the word "tankie" become this mainstream?

 No.522006

>>521981
Too based to be true sadly

 No.522007

>>521491
>>this is the future the anti-putinites want
>nightmare shit
Agreed. So much for "peace loving, anti-war".

 No.522008

>>522005
Since libs got a hold of it

 No.522009

>>521981
<GEEEE I POPPOO MY POOPPY PANTS
<UUUWWWWWWEEEEE
>>521992
Based.
Slav descendant, from Levokumka!
>>522003
The letter above isn't in their website, so it wasn't approved by the majority of people of the party.

 No.522010

>>521981
What would China do?

 No.522011

>>521997
It's a given that the national bourgeois of Russia want to become the new hegemony, it is in their class interests. This still doesn't contradict critical support for Russia right now in their anti-imperialist ventures

 No.522012

>>521994
do your own research or just look it up on youtube, there are government officials in different african countries who talk about this exact thing, they all say the same about china
>offers better terms
>development projects help local infrastructure and not just resource extraction for export
>much more flexible on repayment
>treats them with a level of respect that they'll never get from western countries

 No.522013

>>521998
No way, euro"communism" completely left out the final goal of communism and the DotP. In Italy you weren't even required to read Marx and Lenin to join the PCI

 No.522014

>>522010
Fuck the US

 No.522015

>>522011
Remember when the Bolsheviks critically supported the Russian Empire in WW1? Me neither lol

 No.522016

>>522009
> The letter above isn't in their website, so it wasn't approved by the majority of people of the party.
The letters on the website aren't approved by the majority too lol. CPRF on federal level is extremely authoritarian and doesn't represent party members' views.

 No.522017

>>522010
>(You)
Keep up with their plan to become a imperialist superpower. Duh! Read Enver Hoxha's Imperialism and the revolution for more information about the source of this conflict.

 No.522018

Russia is a mad dog that will be put down. It had a good run but this is the beginning of the end.

 No.522019

>>522013
There were more eurocommunists than the ones in italy and spain.
And even the spaniards never denyied revolutions were needed

 No.522020

>>522011
but there are no anti-imperialist ventures. russia is not trying to actively combat imperialism on the world stage, and as already established is instead trying to become a part of the imperialist order.

surely you can find other reasons for critical support of russia than this? we already had to compromise that russia is actually "semi-imperialist" so we're talking about degrees of imperialism now lmao
at this point the denazification argument is less arguable

 No.522021

>Rosgvardia will turn out to be Waffen SS tier criminals
>Deployed Chechens will turn out to be Dirlewanger/Japanese tier war criminals
My predictions that have a 90% chance of habbening

 No.522022

>>522021
In the liberal media brains no doubt this will happen

 No.522023

>>522020
Russia is bad imperialist but it's true that Ukraine wants ethnic cleansing in the eastern regions. They don't keep that azov group around for nothing you know.

 No.522024

>>522016
>The letters on the website aren't approved by the majority too lol. CPRF on federal level is extremely authoritarian and doesn't represent party members' views.
And I guess that also represents your view, and not the rest of the party, too?
Either way, they have grown in numbers, and their leadership seems very stable. If the base wanted to have another leader they would split/overthrow their party. This hasn't happened, so my guess is that your statement seems unreal.

 No.522025

>>522013
Again, what the fuck is eurocommunism in the context of Mexico? All these parties eventually got killed or became revisionists. The PRD still exists and is basically a corrupt social democratic party. A communist party entering bourgeoise politics seems like a surefire way to make it revisionist and eventually socdem.

 No.522026

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 No.522027

>>522022
Libs don't know about Rosgvardia organization

 No.522028

A based anarchist.

 No.522029

>>522026
Keep pretending Ukrainian government is all good and dandy.
Face facts, they don't keep Azov group and praise Bandera for a reason.

 No.522030

Ultimately China is the biggest winner here.

>>522020
> so we're talking about degrees of imperialism now lmao
Obviously there are degrees, it's based on the country's role in the capitalist world system and flows of capital. The same way EU peripheries also benefit from the 3rd world super-exploitation, hence some call these European countries "semi-peripheries" instead.

 No.522031

>>522028
extremely based viewpoint

 No.522032

>>521486
gary kasparov is a warmongering lunatic. we got where we are by listening to people like him already.

 No.522033

>>522024
Or maybe they're just disciplined and used to intra-party diversity (to be reconciled with DemCent) and know that splitting results in nobody getting power, unlike Westoid communists.

 No.522034

Embedding error.
>>521480
thread theme

 No.522035

>>522027
>>522021
>hurr durr all militaries behave like monsters
>calls others libs
You sure haven't been close to other national guards in the world, right? do you compare them with who? with teddy bears?

 No.522036

>>522026
The US wanted to force a limited conflict and Russia, which has pretty much been forced into taking action is taking the path that most benefits them now. If Russia played by their rules and just BTFO's Ukraine from the Donbass republics then NATO gets to consolidate, sanction and all the rest and Russia gets nothing. So why would they measure their response by the US's playbook?

It just so happens that removing the NATO puppet government and the nazis is a win for everyone except the US lol. So what if Putin installs his own puppet? Russia want's a buffer, they don't want war while the US just want's to grind Ukraine into dust against Russia.

 No.522037

>>521486
>russian cuck talks about anti-americanism
This guy would be a nazi collaborator 80 years ago.

 No.522038

>>522028
>A based anarchist.

No that's an idealist. If you want NATO gone, Russia going into Ukraine forwards that agenda because it weakens them. For one thing, Ukraine expected assistance from NATO here and did not get it. That means you'd be stupid to trust NATO again. Ukraine's also currently a NATO puppet, so Putin doing regime change would also push back NATO influence. Russian puppet is not ideal either but it's better both for the grand balance of geopolitics and probably for Ukrainians. Ukraine under NATO influence has basically been hollowed out per imperialism. It's effectively 3rd world. It would be hard for Russia to do even that bad let alone worse.

 No.522039

>>522035
The RU National Guard (Rosgvardia) is a re organization of internal security units, and is basically a praetorian guard analogous to the SS. I hope they get wiped out.

 No.522040

>>522037
he's already one now

 No.522041

>>522018
okay joe

 No.522042

File: 1645793294356.gif (1.18 MB, 480x270, jojo-hmmmm.gif)

>>522033
mmmmm….
>not splitting
>makes an statement that contradicts the federalist postion
>mfw
if anything, they might get expelled.

 No.522043

I fell asleep about 10 threads ago lmao, what'd I miss?

 No.522044


 No.522045

Is there actually genocide happening in Ukraine

of Dons Bass and Lushenko?

 No.522046


 No.522047

>>522042
That could be possible, and indeed getting contradicting stuff out in the open is harmful.
I was just pointing out though that at least they don't shatter in 291919 microsects like in the West.

 No.522048

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1497187878283190290
BREAKING: RUSSIAN PARATROOPERS RAISED FROM THE DEAD 100 TIMES AND HOLD AIR FIELD

 No.522049

>>522044
I wish for once anonymous would take down my pants

 No.522050

File: 1645793452763-0.png (39.7 KB, 1691x158, image.png)

> see class struggle as having evolved into struggle between civilisations.
Lol

 No.522051

>>522044
I'm on RT right now

 No.522052

>>522051
fake news

 No.522053

Putler says he will negotiate with Ukraine after speaking with Xi. Xi probably cucked him into it.

 No.522054

>>522050
<Reformers
I hope these people get liquidated ASAP, otherwise they'll be SUBMERGED by glowie money in little time.

<Marxist-Leninists

Cream of the crop people

>Left-wing nationalists

<Literally influenced by TNO-tier fascists

Yeah I'm saying EXTRAcringe

 No.522055

>>522053
Based Xi policing the world

 No.522056

>>522053
source?

 No.522057

>>522038
A truly based anarchist.
<3

 No.522058

>>522053
>Xi probably cucked him into it.
more like a diplomatic gift from Russia to China. based if true.

 No.522059

>>522053
Fact : Chvnese are the most powerful race>

>781944

He made it up

 No.522060


 No.522061

File: 1645793752284.jpg (9.26 KB, 284x284, stop.jpg)

>>522038
>russian imperialism is better than american

 No.522062

>>522044
>>522044
image being so CIA paid.

 No.522063

>>522061
This is not imperialism read theory man. Imperialism is when America doing things!

 No.522064

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1497189596869894144

>I have absolutely no idea how Russians are supposed to take this city.


He'll find out in five hours LMAO

 No.522065

>>522038
>That means you'd be stupid to trust NATO again.
You're underestimating the stupidity of NATO colonies.

 No.522066

>>522061
>I don't know what imperialism is
Read Lenin. Russia is irredentist not imperialist. And even if it was imperialist, the stronger imperialist losing is helpful because it makes it harder for imperial power to counteract revolutionary forces. The communists of Russian and Ukraine agree with what I said.

 No.522067

>>522066
> The communists of Russian and Ukraine agree with what I said.
Except the ones who don't. But they aren't real communists, right?

 No.522068

>>522064
They're gonna fuck around and find out.

 No.522069

>>522065
>You're underestimating the stupidity of NATO colonies.
It's not a binary. We're in the "quantity" part of the dialectic. The influence of NATO is eroding piece by piece. At some point it will be enough to transform quantity into quality and it will no longer be able to function that way.

 No.522070

>>521493
I missed the last 10 threads lmao

>NO age restrictions

Fucking hell lads

 No.522071

>>522067
>But they aren't real communists, right?
Where I have seen this way of arguing…
sabotard

 No.522072

>>521486
>>522038
>Ukraine under NATO influence has basically been hollowed out per imperialism. It's effectively 3rd world. It would be hard for Russia to do even that bad let alone worse.
Meh, when Russia was in charge they pursued a heavy neolib policy which is part of why people ended up revolting two times. If they really could have gone in the EU it would have been better for them and they knew it. Being in the western sphere didn't solve their problems though and they couldn't get their economy up even after closing worker orgs

 No.522073

I want to hug sabocat tightly

 No.522074

>Ukranians seething at Italy Cyprus and Hungary because governments do not support nuking SWIFT

<Of course they leave out Germany


Are Ukranians just Slavic Anglos?

 No.522075

>>522067
>Except the ones who don't
Do you have examples?
The Ukraine poster in these threads made a post to that effect, and CPSU released a similar statement. By all means provide a counter-example, but if they are deviating from a reasonable/correct line then may they indeed are not actually communists. If some organization like the DSA is talking about how NATO should defend Ukraine yeah I'd say they aren't real communists.

 No.522076

>>522070
<NO AGE RESTRICTIONS

Agent Kochinski on his way to Kiev rn

 No.522077

>>522074
Italian media are censoring this news kek

 No.522078

>>522076
implying he wasn't already there for maximum clout points

 No.522079

>>522074
Most likely, yep. The idea of the maidan was for them to leave ukraine finally and get rich in Europe.

 No.522080

>>522025
About Mexico, sorry i don't really know anon. I'm Brazilian, speaking from our own experience with the PCB which was also hijacked by eurocoms and is a neolib party today ("Citizenship", blandest name ever)

>>522032
Why do chess players end up like that? Complete loonies. Fischer, Kasparov

 No.522081

>Putin, in response to Zelensky's proposal, is ready to send a delegation to Minsk at the level of representatives of the Ministry of Defense, the Foreign Ministry, and the presidential administration for negotiations with Kiev, Peskov said.

 No.522082

>>521574
easier said than done

 No.522083

So has anything of importance happened while I was sleeping

 No.522084

>>522083
I caught up with friends for dinner, it was pretty good

 No.522085

>>522083
Kyiv airport retaken by Ukraine, Russian attack on Kharkiv repulsed

 No.522086

>>522072
>Meh, when Russia was in charge they pursued a heavy neolib policy which is part of why people ended up revolting two times.
Neoliberalism is less harmful than being an imperial colony, but that's not even really the point, because the impetus behind revolts was NATO turning them into a puppet state. There are always factions within a country who oppose the current situation, no matter what it is. "HURR DURR THEY HAD A REVOLT" doesn't mean anything unless you look at what concretely backed it up, which in many cases today is a foreign power (particularly a western one) changing the guard to a puppet regime that will serve western influences (in other words a colony).
>If they really could have gone in the EU it would have been better for them and they knew it.
Part of why things have played out how they have is because they were hoping for NATO to pay them back, but they don't appreciate the asymmetry of the situation. They were never going to be let into the western sphere of influence because they were not useful in that way.
>Being in the western sphere didn't solve their problems though and they couldn't get their economy up even after closing worker orgs
Since when does that help the economy? Man you're really starting to glow.

>>522083
Kiev still not under Putin's control but he's getting closer. Looks like it's correct that he's mainly pursuing regime change.

 No.522087

File: 1645794471966-0.png (37.18 KB, 1289x165, NSFW411.png)

File: 1645794471966-1.jpg (4.75 KB, 195x259, idex.jpg)

what is wrong with redditors

not even the porn subs are safe from their cringe teenage slacktivism

white girls on twitter are better than this, at least they are sharing donation links

 No.522088

anything interesting happen during the last 3 threads/12 hours?

 No.522089


https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1497177195609010179

>Molotov in Kiev

<CHAZ in Seattle was more armed than that

Imagine the embarassment

 No.522090

>>522084
Based and friend pilled
What did you eat

 No.522091

People here are wrong, The anti-american imperialismfags here are right-wing, and also expansionist.

 No.522092

>>522085
>Kyiv airport retaken by Ukraine,
So the VDV there were wiped out?

rip

 No.522093

>>522088
Russian is in Kiev rightnow.

 No.522094

>>522089
bro is that dude gonna get himself killed?
wouildn't a tank shoot him?

what is the best spot to throw this shit form? i think from high up above where you they can't see you no?

 No.522095

>>522084
>>522085
Sumy was taken by Russia. The city of Chernobyl enclosed more with Russian forces.
The map size of Russian control has increased by huge chucnk.
Mariupol, Melitopol…

 No.522096

>>522092
no, russians are currently operating out of the air field after being liked up with paratroopers, every report of them being wiped out was cope

 No.522097

>>522089
>A village guy from Donbas

I'm so confused

 No.522098

>>521738
This is what no theory does to a mother fucker.

 No.522099

>>522094
I strongly doubt that shit could work on tanks.
Maybe on Grads and lighter things like that.
Luckily enough the Ukrops are not aware of the Houthipill to face APCs.

 No.522100

>>522099
Rollin btw

 No.522101


 No.522102

>>522097
to troll people that he is from Donbas fighting against Russia. Maybe, it is always possible, he is indeed from there, but doesn't think well of them, apparently.

 No.522103

>>522099
it doesn't work, the retard kiev government is going to get so many people killed goddamn

 No.522104

I'm getting tired of the plot tbh, I'd like for Turkey to intervene.
This way we could get Ukrainian and Turkish reactoids BTFO at the same time.

 No.522105

>>522087
Reddit is a glow hive. Any time there's a political event of any significance you see this shit. The most obvious case was when the Hillary Clinton campaign purchased spambots (and probably also glowies behind the scenes of the site itself) to spam her political line, because it was so sharply contrasted with the overwhelmingly pro-Sanders posts that were covering the site the previous day. In fact you can usually scroll down a couple of comments to see people with much more reasonable takes. The important thing isn't censorship but dominating conversation, and they are always finding the "hot" or rising threads, posting the glow narrative in a comment, and getting that comment to the top ASAP (probably just editing the vote value directly since unlike twitter you can't see who contributes the points). They do the same with the actual posts, but they also tend to delete or hide the main posts more when they disagree with the narrative.

Eglin Airforce Base was "most addicted city" on reddit according to their own blog post.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160604042751/http://www.redditblog.com/2013/05/get-ready-for-global-reddit-meetup-day.html

And Ghislaine Maxwell was allegedly a power mod with ties to administrators. She might even be the reason /r/jailbait stayed on the site so long.

 No.522106

>>522090
Sirloin steak with mash potatoes, slaw and pickles.

 No.522107

>>522069
That's not what I'm seeing in eastern europe. In my country increasing number of people want a referendum on exiting NATO, to the point that it's become a talking point for some leftists parties. But the counter-propaganda from cuck parties will be very insane and effective after this. "Ukraine would have been saved if it was part of NATO, communist traitors want Russian hordes in our country, etc." And majority of people, who otherwise don't care either way, will fall for it. The country is already full of pathetic pro-Ukranian wailing from every side and all of the media.

 No.522108

>>522099
Modern BTCs/Russian tanks have smoke curtains to extinguish the fire.
>>522095
>>522083
Also, the first Mi-24 appearance in the air, there is a video with like 3 of them in the air. Soon most of the ukrainian APCs/Tanks will be down.

 No.522109

This clown is 100% a US stooge and nothing else. His function is to remind the West that "we are all in this together" and that we are equally against "the big bad Putin."

I swear to God, a US puppet, nothing else. He doesn't have a SINGLE original thought. He doesn't say anything that doesn't serve the single purpose to hold together the crumbling Western order.

Ukraine is a sacrificial lamb for this cause.

 No.522110


 No.522111

This "multipolarity" meme has gone too far

 No.522112

>>522108
Even if the fire comes from below à la Houthi traps?

 No.522113

>>522097
> I'm so confused
Why are you? Do you think most people supported Russian invasion?

 No.522114

>>522109
>I swear to God, a US puppet, nothing else.
The problem is he doesn't even know it. He's a incompetent clown who thought he could rule just by being likeable.

 No.522115

File: 1645795064235.png (265.52 KB, 456x427, ClipboardImage.png)

UKROP BROS ITS OGRE

 No.522116

>>522111
How many fucking times do we have to explain multipolarity here? This literally happens every other thread. What are people's fucking problems? Keep in mind most urgent joint statements from communist parties all around the world are more or less pushing a multipolar line.

 No.522117

>>522107
i dunno, the lack of action of NATO on ukraine can just as easily bring parallels to how useless the league of nations was and how you're going to be used for american brinksmanship instead.
(yes i know those are two separate things, but the parallel exists because both in theory are meant to "stop war", the only reason why i bring this up is because i've already heard it as an argument from someone who is not interested in any theory and outraged by this whole affair)

 No.522118

>>522111
It is inevitable. The march of history.

 No.522119

>>522086
Idealist post, probably would have argued if not for the fedjacketting

 No.522120

>>522110
Ukrops didn't learn from the last time someone tried to pit a hastily organised volksturm force against a Russian invasion.

 No.522121

>>522116
Are you talking about these?
>>521738

 No.522122

Russia preparing to send delegates to Minsk. https://t.me/bbbreaking/116527
>Russia is ready to send its delegation to Minsk for talks with Ukraine, press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov said.
>As you know, today the President of Ukraine Zelensky announced his readiness to discuss the neutral status of Ukraine. Initially, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the purpose of the operation was to help the LPR and the DPR, including through the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine. And this, in fact, is an integral component of the neutral status," Peskov said.
>"In this context, in response to Zelensky's proposal, Vladimir Putin is ready to send a Russian delegation to Minsk at the level of representatives of the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the presidential administration for negotiations with the Ukrainian delegation," the presidential press secretary said.

 No.522123

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>>521863
>Liberal leaning leftists become interventionist warhawks
>No true scotsman attacks against anyone pacifist or anti-both-sides
>Patsocs entering full tard rage in deffence of Russia
Agreed with all of that but it also ends with patsocs all getting banned from Twitter and YouTube on the pretext of being Russian disinfo bots and Haz finally has to go back to law school.

 No.522124

>>522111
It has gone far in the sense that there's nothing more to discuss. It's a fact.

 No.522125

>>522111
Not far enough. This is disappointing frankly, Russia being pushed into a corner like that.

 No.522126

>>522112
Well, no. It for precisely those cheaps molotovs. Those Ansar Allah (try to use that name, Houthi is a pejorative name impulsed by the Saudis intentionally) traps are insanely worst.

 No.522127


 No.522128

>>522121
Yes, not to mention the Russian communist parties and German ones have pulled a similar line.

 No.522129

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>>521486
>Gary Kasparov unironically using the term "tankie"

 No.522130

>>521963
thats possible but people here told me he betrayed the Soviet Union straight up when the white house was burning and I just cant see where.
Maybe he became a pussy later, his strawberry farm shit is surely weak but when people start with a wrong claim I cant help but dismiss them until further notice

 No.522131

>>522126
In the earlier phase of the Yemen War Ansarallah traps were made of:

1)Some 0,20 euros lighters
2)The will of Allah

Yet they were crushing 200 000 $ APCs on multiple occasions, to the point they installed a giant lighter in Sanaa to celebrate it.

 No.522132

>>522127
>NATO and EU in a nutshell

 No.522133

>>522038
>Ukraine expected assistance from NATO here and did not get it.
Nobody expected assistance from NATO, realistically. This whole shit was a ruse from the very beginning.

 No.522134

>>522106
How many calories was that

>>522113
I truly do not know, Is the thing about Donbas genocide real?

 No.522135

>>522051
the site was unreachable several hours ago
>>522052
shut up, cretin

 No.522136

>>522134
Probably less than the accompanying beers!

 No.522137

>>522123
i hate that i thinki know what pat soc means

Patroitic socialists? I fucking hate it, I hate nationalism so much

 No.522138

>>522134
> Is the thing about Donbas genocide real?
No. The thing about both sides' Nazis commiting war crimes is true.

 No.522139

>>522003
remember democratic centralism? what party discipline is that. I mean I am pretty sure Zuganov is a guilty of just pumping out his statement too but what is a party even worth when it releases 2 opposing statements

 No.522140

>>522068
It's like Lenin said…

 No.522141

>>522131
>to the point they installed a giant lighter in Sanaa to celebrate it
Damn 😂

 No.522142

>>521981
Bruh, why did the US share that intel with China?

 No.522143

>>522139
To be fair I'm glad Zyucucknov has to face some opposition from the left inside his own party.
It means that commitment to socialism its still alive among the base of the party.

 No.522144

>>522015
wasn't russia on the side of the entente?

 No.522145

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1497182117259739141
Romanian vessel damaged by russian fire

 No.522146

>>522086
>They were never going to be let into the western sphere of influence because they were not useful in that way.
they were useful as a human shield to poke russia with

 No.522147

>>522131
wait what

 No.522148

>>522107
> In my country increasing number of people want a referendum on exiting NATO, to the point that it's become a talking point for some leftists parties. But the counter-propaganda from cuck parties will be very insane and effective after this. "Ukraine would have been saved if it was part of NATO, communist traitors want Russian hordes in our country, etc." And majority of people, who otherwise don't care either way, will fall for it.
I see your point, but NATO is failing at its purpose. In the short term it might hold together, but even in this case the propaganda could go the other way.

>>522111
cope

>>521738
Theorylets gonna theorylet.
For fuck's sake this whole situation is hardly a "meat grinder." Russia has been very swiftly taking power with relatively few casualties. They pretty obviously just want to change the government from NATO puppet to Russia puppet what dabbing on NATO.

>>522142
Because the Biden regime are a bunch of amateurs. They don't have any competent statepeople.

>>522145
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK

>>522146
This pretty much sums it up.

 No.522149

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>>522130
I think the strawberry farm is that other dude, Grudinin.

>>522145
Oops

 No.522150

>>521486
dude knows all this yet has zero class concisouness to understand why would the US porkies do all this

making profit triumps ideology, when will the libs learn

>>522007
>>521491
what's so scary? we will do the same to anti-socialists when we have global power

everyone must be nake, this is their truth

>>522129
Why is that special, who is he

 No.522151

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>>522145
I sincerely hope the Ukrops are lying

 No.522152

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>>522141
>>522147

Proof I'm not bullshitting you

 No.522153

>>522145
Putin really did want a war, it seems

 No.522154

>>522149
damn thx. So whats the accusation of Zuganov not from now (cause recently hes - I can see why hes hated) but from the 90ies?

 No.522155

>>522136
lol, cheers!

>>522148
what would have been a smarter move by the biden adminstration then? i want to understand

 No.522156

>>522145
ROMANIA IS A MEMBER STATE OF NATO
NATO CHARTER SAYS AN ATTACK ON ONE IS AN ATTACK ON ALL

 No.522157

>>522149
what does this post mean

 No.522158

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>>522152
but how do you kill a tank with a lighter?

 No.522159

>>522156
RUSSIA CLAY MUST PAY

YOU HURT ROMANIA, YOU HUR THE WORLD!

 No.522160

>>522154
People basically accuse him of accepting defeat (elections were "fair" as in "no fraud", but influenced by heavy propaganda) in 1996 and not going Trump mode

 No.522161

>>522145
The Ukrainians really want a false flag, kek

 No.522162

>>522156
NATO does an exception for attacks on Romania because nobody gives a shit about Romania.

 No.522163

>>522150
Professional chess player turned gusano dipshit CNN pundit who thinks playing boardgames and being from the country gives him special knowledge of Putin's super secret master plan to take over the world!!!11!!11!

 No.522164

>>522151
Romania isn't going to declare war just because one of their ships got hit by a stray shot

 No.522165

>>522156
>>522151
>>522148
ITS A MOLDOVIAN SHIP

NOT NATO

relax

 No.522166

>>522126
>>522131
how do you make them, and how do they get it down near the tank?

 No.522167

>>522158
1) APCs (not tanks usually, even if Ansarallah soldiers swear they also did it with them) rolling

2) Crushes the lighter(s)

3) Lighters set alight the vehicle

4) Driver is forced to abandon the vehicle and gets shot

5) APC is left to burn or destroyed

 No.522168

>>522160
and getting shot the same evening. Thats so sad when people need to invent shit instead of using what credible things there are. Thank you for explaining to me

 No.522169

>>522163
that explains a lot lol

 No.522170

>>522165
lol Ukrainian fake news again. Poor Moldovians tho. Leave them alone they literally have nothing to lose

 No.522171

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>>522157
Pavel Grudinin is another CPRF guy who manages (and I think owns much of) a cooperative farm that supplies most of Moscow's strawberries. I think he might be in the more "reformist" / socdem faction but not sure while Zyuganov is a left-nationalist.

 No.522172

>>522165
Oh, I forgot this "country" still exists.

 No.522173

>>522168
He later gone being fully supportive of Putin, to be honest. But in 1996 it was a matter of survival, Yeltsin literally did have plans for military coup and civil war.

 No.522175

>>522131
yeah, baby, but they require training and technique. a molotov requires you to have 0 brains.
I have read techniques how to do the lighter trap and is annoying as hell. This is really struggling against imerpiaism how looks like.

 No.522177

>>522155
>what would have been a smarter move by the biden adminstration then?
Just gonna relink the post for context >>521981
1) It's stupid to think that it would work to appeal to China to avert war. US and Russia are major geopolitical rivals. China is happy to watch them fight.
2) This means that sharing sensitive information like this with China is stupid because it shows them (a) valuable intel about Russia, which might be directly useful and can validate their own intel and (b) reveals information about US intel capabilities. It also shows the US is stupid enough to share this information.
The fact that it's known that China shared the intel with Russia means that China doesn't even care, probably because the intel isn't even that useful or important, and because doing this publicly embarrasses the US terribly and heightens tensions between the US and Russia.

 No.522179


 No.522181

>>522171
He is closer to a socdem (this means "like Old Labour" in CPRF) surely. He still worships Stalin because it's CPRF.

 No.522184

>>522173
thats basically what I suspected. Yeah I mean realistically theres no communist Russia with him. well see whether China makes some pressure to reform the party, maybe the vacuum then could be used to - no turn it around 180 degree but make it principled again.

 No.522187

>>522184
>Current China
>Makes pressure for a Russian communist party to become genuinely communist
Now that's a principal contradiction right there pal.

 No.522190

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wtf DSA not being shit for once?

 No.522192

>>522187
dude I am not stupid and believe theyre in any way meaning any good for communism, but nominally the KPRF is their ideological ally and maybe that friction can be used to do some actual changes in a good direction (much against Chinese direct interest)

 No.522195

>>522184
china will never do any such thing, the unfortunate thing about china is that it is only interested in its own interests

 No.522197


 No.522199

>>522190
you are retarded if you think that's not shit

 No.522202

>>522192
they get rid of zuganov for a chinese puppet after Putin is retiring, this puppet is unpopular and an ML can emerge the new party leader

 No.522204

>>521486
Kasparov has always been a deranged retard like this. Generally speaking chess players are some of the most self-aggrandizing people I've ever come across.

 No.522206

>>522199
No, explain yourself why you are against it

 No.522208

>>522195
you mean the good thing about China

 No.522210

>>522195
>>522202
the latter is a scenario I could imagine. I am not believing in China as socialism

 No.522213

WHERE IS NEW THREAD

 No.522214

>>522192
And why would China have to do this ? They have to suck that American dollars to become superpower you know !

 No.522217

>>522206
>no US intervention
there is already US intervention. Stop screaming empty slogans. Either say USA fuck off from Ukraine or stay silent with your lib idiocy.

>Debs

literal anti-communist revisionist

read a fucking book

 No.522219

>>522208
no, ussr foreign policy was probably one of the best things about the ussr with all of the foreign aid and fostering socialist states abroad. china could really learn from the example, but they prefer not to.

 No.522221


 No.522223

>>522177
Wow, Does russia not mind being flamed by china like this?

 No.522225

>>522219
Better than involving yourself in things you have no understanding of.

 No.522227

>>522217
>Since there is already an US intervention it's liberal to say no to it
Amazing brain you got there pal

 No.522229

>>522217
>>no US intervention
>there is already US intervention.
and? "No X" doesn't mean "No X except for X that already exists." And they are clearly talking about responses in this context. You can't explain the history of the situation in a tweet.
>>Debs
>literal anti-communist revisionist
lol

 No.522231

>>522217
So you wanted swear words, and wokescolding about some socdem quote
I don't know what you were expecting here,

This was the most based soc-dem thing they could say while still being soc-dems

 No.522233

>>522213
Make it yourself

 No.522235

>>522233
*Births a new child*
FUCK

 No.522237


 No.522238

btw why do we need a new thread? why can't mods make this a rolling sticky?

 No.522240

>>522223
It's not really a problem for Russia. It just makes the US look bad. It's not China's fault the US is being stupid, but Russia won't have its feelings hurt lol. They understand the relationship they have with China and that this conflict helps China.

 No.522242


so uh where is new thread

 No.522243

>Twitter getting in a frenzy for the supposed exploits of a Ukranian "ace" which would be credited with 6 kills against Russian airplanes
<No proof provided

 No.522245

At times like this I am reminded of what Enver Hoxha predicted about the fall of the Soviet Union and the rise of cut-throat capitalism in its place.

 No.522246

>>522243
This is a war. People need heroes, that's the exact reason why people all over twitter are citing "Russian military vessel, go fuck" response by Ukrainian border guards being shelled.

 No.522248

>>522242
I ate it, Sorry lads

 No.522251

>>522245
im scared

 No.522253

>>522251
Why are you scared comrade ?

 No.522255

the idea that this conflict is genuinely about "de-nazification" or that the Azov Battalion are gonna be the ones most profoundly impacted by the invasion is a joke

 No.522257

>>522255
I fear that this invasion will radicalize Ukrainian nationalists instead.

 No.522259

>>522255
So I think the script will go like this: The Ukrainian army is beaten back, but the Azov batallion "heroically" made a last stand in Kiev which saved the country, and thus begins Ukraine's descent into a far-right haven.

 No.522261

>>522257
They already have comrade, when they allow the Azovs to become part of Ukrainian military.

 No.522263

>>522259
arent they already dead?

 No.522265

>>522257
And that quote had nothing to do with Enver Hoxha's predictions though

 No.522267

>>522243
>ace combat ukrop propaganda
lel

 No.522270

so no new thread?

 No.522272

>>522261
Yes, but if you look at the actions of Azov battalion you will se that this integration means nothing to them. Hell, they said Zelensky to go fuck himself when he issued the order to disband them in 2019.

 No.522274

NEW THREAD

>>782154

>>782154
>>782154
>>782154
>>782154

 No.522276

>>522270
make one faggot

 No.522278

>>522272
If this Zelensky really meant business then that group would have gone to the wind. No, they want that group to stay. Face facts comrade.

 No.522280

>>522255
Most invasions and wars are like this. The laymen don't know or can get the time to obtain a proper understanding international relations. So they are fed emotionally appealing narratives to get behind one side. Think about the babies and the ethnic cleansing! Don't you feel sad? We should go to war!

 No.522282

>>522255
Obviously "de-nazification" is just PR move, but it's a good one. People here are asking me wtf does Putin mean by that, so now they're learning about how NATO supports neonazis.

 No.522284

>>522245
Damn you're gonna make me read more Hoxha

 No.522286

>>522255
ok schizo

 No.522288

>>522245
He had a way of getting his point across 🤣

 No.522290

>>522253
i do not know to read

i'm just scared his predictions might be extremely eerily true

 No.522293

>>522278
Is it not possible that Zelensky is powerless?

 No.522295

>>522280
NEVER!

I for one believe in the truest human ideal, Lazyness!
Not to war because I don't wanna get up and stranger things new season is coming out soon

CONSOOM, NO WAR


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