No.534786[Last 50 Posts]
EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD IS A SABOTEUR, SABOTEUR SABOTEUR EDITIONKyiv warned of toxic fumes after strike on oil depot
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60542877Germany to send weapons directly to Ukraine
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60541752Russia-Ukraine latest news: Russian troops enter Kharkiv; west cuts off banks from Swift system – live
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/feb/27/russia-ukraine-latest-news-missile-strikes-on-oil-facilities-reported-as-some-russian-banks-cut-off-from-swift-system-live
Raid on twitter agsnts azov battalion
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/793501.htmlRussian broadcasts hacked to play Ukraine song on all channels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ0AYGSI9uQ No.534787
RUSSIANS SHALL CUM
No.534788
We are all gonna die edition
No.534789
>>534788That's sound like defeatist talk,
SABOTEUR.
No.534790
>>534788Don’t threaten me with a good time
No.534793
>>534786How are things going? Is Russia gonna win?
No.534794
Here to give my FULL support to Russia.
After watching the full extent of consent manufacturing going on, there's no doubt: the ONLY way for history to start anew is for Ukraine to get utterly smashed.
I hope that Russian comrades are getting ready for all possibilities though.
No.534795
>go on Tinder
>matched with qt3.14
>start chatting her up
>turns out she's not into me
<fucking saboteur
>find out where she lives
>killed her saboteur ass
No.534796
>>534793>Is Russia gonna win?Yes
>When?In 2 months if they don't choke.
No.534798
>>534787>RUSSIANS SHALL CUMhow much?
No.534801
>>534797cant wait for the total libtard meltdown when ukraine surrenders
No.534802
>enjoy seeing your life savings become worthless
No.534803
THE WORLD FAMOUS GHOST OF KIEV HYDENKO JUST SHOT DOWN A RUSSIAN PLANE
How can he keep getting away with it?
No.534805
>>534802Jokes on you, most burgers are not paid enough money to have savings to begin with.
No.534806
>>534797>Putin is too small. Small man. Could rest my nuts on top of his head.Redditors are either kindergarteners or not allowed within 100m of one
No.534808
>>534801They will declare victory all the same. As long as a single Ukranian lives, the NATO Avengers made Putin run with the tail between his legs.
No.534809
Rapidly approaching the timeline in which someone will bust out a Ronaldo-tier SIUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMM on video after getting a tank destroyed
No.534810
>>534795Another hero for the western media
No.534811
>>534808>as long as a single ukrainian lives:^)
No.534812
>>534807The comrade who published the stories on how global nazism is intertwined with Ukraine is crazy enough. I am not sure about the liberals. This would be the end of the world as we know it.
No.534813
>>534807Remember that the coming Nuclear holocaust will all be for a Nato Membership card that Ukraine would never receive, we are reaching retarded levels of delusion of Western Nations
No.534817
>>534808Indeed. They will probably cope about how Ukraine 'won' the war because their K/D ratio is better than Russia's like it's some Call of Duty game; or some other lame excuse.
No.534819
>>534815Must be those thousands of saboteurs they lost
No.534824
>>534820>black guyDefinitely a saboteur, there can't be any- I mean there isn't black people in Ukraine.
SABOTEUR No.534825
>>534815At this moment I am for a joined invasion of Ukraine with NATO and Russia, to catch the Ukraine government and make their retarded asses shut up
No.534826
RUSSIA DENIES THAT NEGOTIATION'S STARTED
WTF IS GOING ON
No.534827
>>534815Ok I wouldn't be mad if he drops a nuke or two on them. It would be a drag but, you know, understandable with behavior like that.
No.534829
>>534815Would it be better for liberals and NATO to buy this cope and think Putin got his arse kicked so that they don't escalate and release sanctions or whatever? Or should NATO fear Russia again?
No.534833
>yeah lets alienate a country that became capitalist after decades of cold war yet still has a population where the majority is sympathetic to and misses communism
No.534834
>>534831That includes Western chauvinists.
No.534838
>real people's war
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
No.534840
>>534824There are african students that the hohols refused to give a train ticket to leave the country, so they’re walking to Poland. Same with many Indian students.
No.534842
Americans are so bored they want nuclear war to happen
No.534844
>>534842I am not american, that's offensive man.
No.534845
>>534842I love UFO and Dolphin.
No.534846
>>534842Putin is American, confirmed
No.534852
Tbh i just want the misery to end i dont really care how it ends
No.534854
>Ukraine sends saboteurs into Russian ranks
>Russia reciprocates
>Entire conflict turns into a colossal Among Us live action
Union of SUS Soviet Republics when?
No.534855
>>534829Sanctions are going to prompt dedollarization, nationalization of western owned assets, more self-sufficiency in Russia and increased trade with China (increasing the power of the CPC). They're unironically good
>>534834True
>>534815Not seeing how this is unbelievable as the first demand was Ukraine surrendering, and agreeing to demilitarization and tribunals for its leadership
No.534856
>>534849Looks like some kind of liberal protest. Like those vegans and feminists who pour blood on themselves and go naked
No.534857
>>534824Same energy as the joke below
>An American spy tries to dig up information in a Russian bar. He walks in with full Russian attire and everybody looks at him, but he keeps calm. Walks up to a politician and says greetings comrade. The politician says he thinks he’s an American spy. He still keeps his cool and says No I can sing the Russian national anthem more beautifully than any Russian and continues to sing. The entire bar breaks out in applause. The politician says I still think your a spy. He says he knows the history better than any historian and spends a few hours telling of all the great revolutions, of the great wars, and how technologically advanced Russia is compared to the US. The politician still thinks he’s an American spy. He then says he’s a good drinker, a “true Russian” and says let’s drink. The bartender spends the next hour pouring drink after drink for the two. The politician is so drunk he’s about to pass out but still says he thinks he’s a spy. Finally the guy says you got me, I’m an American spy, but how the hell did you know? The politician looks at him an says “There’s not that many black people in Russia”. No.534859
>>534797Redditors are so scum. Will I be able to see liberal minds finally short circuit in my lifetime, /leftypol/?
No.534860
>>534807>Is NATO retarded enough to push Putin to nuclear war?yes. the hubris and self righteousness of the west can not be overstated. their system and 'way of life' is the peak of human existence and destined to rule all of the world. It must rule all the world and anywhere it doesn't rule right now is a regrettable wrong to be righted in due time. anyone who defies the west is standing in the way of history, human progress and self fulfillment. This gives the west the right, the duty, to always win any kind of dispute with the non-west. Any alternative outcome is like a defiance of the laws of nature. This also means they believe they are going to win every dispute in the end.
there is also boomer WWII mythology that guides everything (Godwin is not just for the internet). Every defiance of the west is Hitler, and the one thing you can't do with Hitler is "appeasement". You must be hawkish and fight and take a hard line over everything, and never show any weakness (compromise, concession).
No.534862
>>534858Yeah remember how burgers won Afghanistan and Vietnam by having higher kill counts
No.534863
>>534849>>534856If my German is good enough, that has nothing to do with Ukraine, it's some kind of protest in Vienna against Klima-something (Climate policy?)
No.534869
>>534866it wasn't the guy above, it was me. i was trying to take the ghost of kiev down
(it didn't work, my entire batallion is dead along with 5 of our planes that tried to intercept him)
No.534870
>>534868transhumanistgods i kneel
No.534871
>>534856>>534863It's called a "die in" fyi. Hate those kind of protests, riots are much better.
No.534872
>>534826think they're negotiating only with belarus asking them not to invade
No.534877
>>534855This is kinda more what I mean, though the sanctions are a part of it:
>>534860 If the Ukrainians can get their EPIC WIN and the liberals and NATO all pat themselves on the back for having "beat Putin" then they might not be so primed to start making more provocations that would make Putin launch nukes
Not saying that Ukraine's defense forces are necessarily trying to work with Russia to downplay its defeat so as to stop a nuclear war, just whether it's better for westoid liberals to believe what lets them sleep at night
No.534879
>>534876>Reddit insistsWhen have they ever been right about anything
No.534881
>>534876Yeah, Reddit always has the right predictions.
No.534884
>>795882
Is this the coping pshek?
No.534885
>>534876I fucking hope so.
No.534887
>>534871I swear these kinds of protests are just feel-good events and ways to let off steam, ways to release frustrations by turning it into festivals than actual change. Quite literally the opiate of the masses
No.534888
>>795886
>Seethes about le troons
<Supporting Globohomo Ukraine against trad Russia
No.534890
>>534886Pretty sure their flag has been around since the 40's, was the flag of the OUN I think
No.534891
Can you guys stop posting dead people
No.534893
>>534850This meme never gets old.
No.534895
>>534874Maybe its because I touched grass yesterday idk, sometimes i even have sex.
No.534897
>>534892The Coomer of Kyiv
No.534898
>>534874Also thanks a lot for the support.
No.534899
>>534892Sorry reddit, only Zelensky's pink bussy is getting smashed
No.534900
>>534892Jesus Christ, this guy probably faps to the liberators
No.534902
Gonna be starting an anti-national Ukraine thread alternative in a bit. It's going to be Internationalist directed and anti chauvinistic.
No.534904
>>534902Damn that will fucking own the porkies
No.534906
>>534892>Least degenerate Redditor>>534897Ebin
No.534907
>>534905Why do they always use the same video
No.534909
have those two nazis that executed the """saboteur""" been given their hero names yet?
No.534913
Divisions on the left break down two ways
1. This war is caused by the contradiction between liberalism's universal and equal idea of rights, processes, and so on with the arbitrary nature of autocracy, which tries to preserve history
2. This war is caused by how the liberal international order isn't any higher than the history Russia operates on, and under unipolarity did the most to reproduce it because imperialism was exploiting it (through national divisions etc). This forces Russia to act on the same terms.
Which one is correct?
No.534914
>>534913One does not get in the way of the other
No.534915
>>534892I think this is Zizek trolling some more.
No.534918
>>534913>Which one is correct?Me fucking your mom
No.534923
>>534878If a huge nation like Russia cannot gain any kind of national sovereignty under global imperialism then socialism has no chance and the human race doesn't deserve to exist
I'm happy with history ending there
No.534926
>>534921Somehow the 'turtle of Volnovkha' survived unscathed,sources say he/she has already survived 3 russian missiles and at least 2 accusations of sabotage
No.534927
>>534923Big if there, chief
No.534929
>>534913Second is more correct. Imperialism wrapped itself in liberal ideology but nothing changed. It's the west that violated its own rules, and Putin (himself appointed by the gravediggers of the USSR) is playing by the same book
History never stopped, libs only denied it
No.534930
>>534926i actually laughed
No.534932
>>534926According to whom, the Ukrainians?
No.534933
>>534894NATO aggression like a special NATO military operation in Ukraine?
No.534934
>>534908muh russian morale crisis
No.534936
>>534923The West is showing how delusional it has become, it is still stuck in its delusion of hegemony, to such a point that it is aggreeable to them to risk nuclear war over a Nato membership card this is insane
No.534937
Okay so why is Putin doing all this tho fr. This will only hurt Russia, it's Afghanistan 2.0. Did he just miscalculate? Did he always want Ukraine in Russian sphere of influence at any cost? Is he having his joker moment? Or is he really mentally deteriorating and are the liberals psychologizing politics actually right this time?
No.534938
european porkies shitting their pants over these sanctions. is neoliberalism fraying before our eyes?
No.534939
>>534933>NATO aggression like a special NATO military operation in Ukraine?Yes NATO troops moving into Ukraine would be the start of ww3
No.534940
>>534929Now I kind of get why revolution didn't happen in the west. Social chauvinistic retardation became deeply entrenched as Lenin put it, much more than in Eastern less developed nations.
No.534941
>>534937>this will only hurt russiawrong!
No.534942
>>534837And see Ukkkraine become a radioactive wasteland?
No.534943
>>534937he did it for that sweet ukrainian rapist cock
No.534945
>>534908Having military equipment near your home can be detrimental to your property value and health in a war situation.
No.534948
Protesters in Minsk have encircled the building of the General Staff of the Defence Ministry of Belarus and are chanting "Glory to Ukraine"
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/27-february-protesters-in-minsk-have-encircled-the-building No.534949
Why do Ukrainians who aren't Nazis even fight rather than just surrender? Like if they offered no resistance and Russia just rolled in, what would even happen?
They would get a new government no worse than their old one, perhaps even a little better. What exactly do they think they are defending? What here is worth dying for? Its not like the Russians are planning to enslave or eliminate the Ukrainian population.
No.534950
>>534944>>534941Why wouldn't this hurt Russia?
No.534951
>>534937Security concerns, that's it. He wanted Ukraine to remain a Neutral, NATO free country. But the west was deluded in their supremacy that they pushed NATO to the borders of Russia and even baited membership for Ukraine, ignoring every single demand Russia made. While slowly encircling him and isolating Russia. What the fuck do you think will happen when you push a dog into a corner, think it will just offer its own neck? The West literally didn't leave any option open to him.
No.534952
>>534924The Russian bourgeoisie wants its power secured trough the neutralization of Ukraine with obtaining its resources and markets as a bonus. The western bourgeoisies don't want Russia to get too big because it would menace their hegemony and the current status quo. War happened because this contradiction was not impeded by an ease of sanctions or trough diplomatic resolutions.
No.534953
>>534937Not really it's kind clever for the reason that of NATO sends troops directly into Ukraine that nuclear war begins and we all die. Now of course, Putin and the Russian state are equally psychotic as NATO so NATO will be psychotic enough to invade to throw us into WW3. The ruling oligarchies both East and West want to get rid of the working classes en masse, what better way to do this than through nuclear annihilation. The oligarchs will be safe in their billion dollar bunkers though :)
No.534954
>>534950it will hurt russia, but it will hurt the west even harder
No.534955
>>534949Most do
>>534950Because any effort to hurt Russia will be quickly thwarted by reality and how much Europe depends on Russia
No.534956
>>534946this is what russian soldiers get as spoils of war
>>534949woah it's almost as if fighting for a capitalist government doesn't benefit the working class. bro…
No.534957
>>534951I actually agree that NATO expansion is the reason why, I don't buy that he woulda done this even if it wasn't for NATO but is this invasion worth it? Was it really his only option? Will the benefits outweigh the cost?
No.534958
>>534952Russia is already big. What NATO fears is that Russia might be closer to the western border of Ukraine and I'm turn much closer to them. This is not a resource war.
No.534959
>>534956As they say in Russian: твоя киска в зоне риска
(Your pussy/cat is in the danger zone. It rhymes in Russian)
No.534960
>>534953Russia won't bomb Ukraine, that's retarded, that won't hurt the western economy.
Russia will bomb Germany, that will do real damage to Western hegemony
No.534961
>>534956Soon we will have кот and not кiт
No.534964
>>534949Tribalism is a powerful spook. Wanting to "defend your country" but not questioning why or what this means
So you get people on both sides killing each other even though the victory of one over the other won't change their lives much
During the next iteration of 1917 this chauvinist brainrot needs to be stomped out for good. Putin is right on one thing; dividing the USSR along "ethnic" lines was a mistake
No.534965
>>795985
Grow up
No.534967
>>534957If the West comes to their senses and realizes that Ukraine is not as much in their interest as it is for Russia. It is what rational Foreign policy experts already know and recommend, the problem is whether Western leaders will be able to let go of their Western hegemony delusion
No.534968
>795985 (you)
Grow up
No.534969
>>534858funny thing is they have been spreading the story about Russian "mobile crematoria" preemptively, so that any lack of bodies or evidence can be attributed to Russians burning their dead away. and all this blatant lying is only making them look less credible. Just like the 13 dead border guardsmen on Snake Island.
Ukrainian propaganda machine is manufacturing stories, hoping to get their civilians killed, so they can then put pictures of "dead civilians" all over Western media.
The reason cities like Kharkiv aren't falling is because Ukrainian government hasn't actually evacuated the cities, this makes fighting very difficult for a disciplined, trained army like Russia's that is under strict orders not to hurt civilians and non-combatants. Ukraine is happy to use civilians as literal meat shields and cannon fodder to win the propaganda war.
Russia invaded three days ago and Ukraine already have fucking Volkssturm brigades composed of women, kids and old people.
No.534972
>>534957>is this invasion worth it? Clearly their military and advisors think so
>Was it really his only option? No but waiting for a potential diplomatic solution would have given time to Ukraine to reinforce.
>Will the benefits outweigh the cost?Declaring war is always a gamble. But the top Russian brass think they have good odds.
>>534958It's because Russia is already big that anglos don't want it to get even bigger. It's not a "resource war" although there are resources that will give geopolitical hard power to Russia (grain/neon), the point is that some of the resources and market will be transferred to the Russian national bourgeoisie, which explains in part their acceptance for war.
No.534973
>>534949Why are the Russians, who are in fact the invading force, fighting? Why aren't you asking the same question about them?
No.534974
>>534954I think it will hurt Europe, but I think the US will be benefitting from this, as they have from every (world) war in Europe throughout history.
"The United States’ role in this tragedy is as much about its relationship with its former imperial rivals, Germany, Italy, and France, as it is about its attempts to weaken Russia. These three powers, and the Europe they lead, incessantly threaten to spin out of the US orbit. Increasingly, they talk of strategic autonomy, while pursuing economic integration with Russia and China, to US dismay. Russian aggression provides the occasion to bind Europe more firmly to the United States, by rallying Europe against Russia through the US instrument of NATO, and pressing the continent to sever some economic ties with Russia. Germany will be expected to cancel the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, to its great disadvantage, since it will lose an inexpensive source of energy, and to the great advantage of the US liquid natural gas industry, which will fill the void with a more expensive product. While certification of the pipeline has only been suspended for now, Washington will continue to pressure Germany to cancel the pipeline altogether. The benefits of Russian aggression against Ukraine for the US investor class are so numerous, that champagne bottles must have popped in Washington and on Wall Street when the Russian president announced the beginning of his country’s military operation in Ukraine. European drift toward the Russian economy is eclipsed. NATO is strengthened, with indubitable benefits in new orders from NATO countries for arms from US weapons makers. Calls for more weapons purchases to bolster the US military will escalate; yesterday, for example, a Wall Street Journal op-ed demanded a naval build up. And the arms industry will run at full-tilt pumping weapons into Ukraine to fuel an insurgency, as Washington fights Russia to the last Ukrainian. Wars for which the United States has not participated except to act as an arms supplier have always been kind to the country’s investors; this one promises to be the same. Finally, Russian military operations, along with Western sanctions, will drain the Russian economy, weakening Russia, or at least stifle its growth, and make it less a formidable US rival. How could Wall Street not look with pleasure upon the prospects?"
Only negative is it will bring Russia closer to China.
No.534975
>>534963
because ppl on here are retarded
No.534976
>>534964>Putin is right on one thing; dividing the USSR along "ethnic" lines was a mistakeWhat should have been done instead?
No.534977
>>534963
Germoids literally cucked their own economy for America's imperial ambitions
No.534978
>>534973Are you serious? Because the Russians have more to gain than to lose, and Ukrainians have more to lose than to gain.
No.534979
>>534963
putin won't lose either way because he can just trade with the east if the embargo happens, and if it doesn't, then it's business as usual except part of ukraine or the whole of ukraine will be under his influence. he won
No.534980
>>534963
We don't know what's gonna happen tbh. I can only hope for the weakening of NATO, but all in all this is a imperialist, aggressive, and if it doesn't do anything at all to weaken Western hegemony, a retarded move by Putin.
No.534981
>>534973Simple, to make sure they don’t have hostile neighbors/protect russians in the breakaway republics. Zelensky could have just abided by the Minsk agreements
No.534982
>>534949Sadly Western media makes them think that the entire world is behind them and supports them, which gives them hope and motivation, while in reality western support is just symbolic, while civilians running into certain death is real
No.534983
>>534978If you think the soldiers who are dying on this offensive, on either side, have anything to win I have nothing to discuss with you.
No.534985
>>534975Have fun freezing in the winter
No.534986
>>534963
>Why is /leftpol/ acting like this has gone well for Putin?
Because it has
>Isn't this bad for Russia and only strengthening NATO and the US?
NATO and the us would strengthen regardless
>Europe was already pivoting to partnership with Russia and away from America.
Not the hecklin europerinos
No.534987
>>534963
>pivoting to partnership
You sure about that? The acceptance/certification of Sputnik vaccine and Nord Stream II, two authentically mutually beneficial Russian products were being held up into perpetuity, it was obvious that Western Europe was always gonna bend over backwards for America away from Russia.
No.534989
>>534986“Strengthen” would basically mean cucking their native pops more to the point of descent
No.534990
>>534905Jesus, how the mighty have fallen.
No.534992
>>534988
>Do a Volkssturm 2.0
<Not run by Nazis
No.534993
>>534963
The west has already lost the game, Russia is growing closer to China while Europe closer to a dying empire, it suicide in slowmotion
No.534995
>>534983The officers have probably drilled in their soldiers that it's an existential war, and that goes both sides, although the Russians may be at an advantage because they have a modern and disciplined army.
No.534996
>>534983Tell that to the Chechens or Donbass fighters or any of the Russians who know the atrocities committed by the likes of the Azov against their countrymen.
No.534999
>>534991nooooooo i thought ukraine was winning… please ukrsisters, tell me that this isn't true….
No.535001
>>534988
>People are dying for a membership card of a club started by Nazis (NATO)
>In a country with a military ran by Nazis (Ukraine)
>With a government that is filled with Nazi sympathizers
No.535002
>>534963Atlanticists/MIC and China win here, Europe becomes even more dependent on America, Russia becomes more dependent on China, and Ukraine loses regardless of how this ends. Worst case they don't swallow their pride and let this drag out for months encouraged by NATO support
The working class wins if this ends in 1917
>>534976Not creating the SSRs
>>534988Because they're contrarians wanting to stick it to libs
>>534990Anyone can use that label anyway, including glowies. No guarantee NATO itself is not behind the cyberattacks here
No.535003
>>534988
It's the Russian lie for moral justification and we have Russian assets affiliates on this board. The people sticking to it are idealists maupin fans
No.535005
>>534992you know who else did that? the soviets when the nazis moved onto moscow.
No.535006
>>535000
They’re the majority of those fighting. Most of the ukrs are surrendering to the Russian forces
No.535007
>>535000
they represent the likes of whom we're dealing with here. zelensky is a neo-nazi too
No.535009
>>535000
Azov isn't an isolation. They are integrated into the broader army and neonazis have spread out throughout. Azov is also not the only neonazi battalion, just the most infamous one.
No.535010
>>535005Keep malding, Fritz
No.535011
>>534976French model. Unitary state with roughly arbitrary prefectures and departments for local administrative tasks. The answer to the USSR’s nation question had been answered 100 years before the USSR existed.
No.535012
The US is sendind tactical prayers and onlyfans discounts to ukraine… putinsisters this isn't looking good
No.535013
>>535000
Nazis and other ultra right people form a large chunk of the government forces, apart from the Azov battalions.
No.535015
>>535000
>Why does leftypol act like azov is majority of the current Ukraine forces
The fact nationalists are integrated into the state after the 2014 coup is a sign of a wider problem where it's basically just west and central Ukraine ruling everyone else
Ukraine polarized along ethnic lines to overcome regional and linguistic divisions so it could throw out all ties to Russia and the Soviet Union as the cause of the country's failed economic recovery and descent into culture war
No.535017
>>535012Pornhub has also been banned in Russia, i think this is it Ruskibros
No.535019
>>534973I can at least understand wanting to protect those in Donetsk and Lugansk from Ukrainian Nazis.
Not that I think the average Russian soldier has anything to gain from this, but there is some sort of reason I can grasp.
No.535020
>>535008she was right. keep seething
No.535021
>>534988
Not run by Nazis, but filled with sympathizers.
No.535023
>>535014
Sorry, ultranationalists are the majority fighting. That and people are basically all shooting each other up in the streets.
No.535024
>>535010like if you got nothing to say just shut the fuck up
No.535025
Reposting
Divisions on the left break down two ways
1. This war is caused by the contradiction between liberalism's universal and equal idea of rights, processes, and so on with the arbitrary nature of autocracy, which tries to preserve history
2. This was is caused by how the liberal international order isn't any higher than the history Russia operates on, and under unipolarity did the most to reproduce it because imperialism was exploiting it (through national divisions etc). This forces Russia to act on the same terms.
Which one is more correct
No.535026
>>535008She was right. Lenin was wrong on this. All the SSRs produced brainrotted reactionary revisionists, yes even Lukashenka who for years sabotaged union state integration until he was forced to implement it these past two years
If Putin ends the sovereignty of all these post-soviet states that would unironically be based
No.535028
>>535020Yeah dude, racist and chauvinist proletarians will definitely construct proletarian harmony necessary to progress history
No.535029
>>534986>Not the hecklin europerinosProletarian internationalism is dead. Marxism is dead. Leninism is dead. Communism is no longer viable and pure utopia, all we have left is ultra nationalist saber rattling.
No.535030
>>535025You have posted this question multiple times already
No.535033
>>535026Lol, idealist dipshits. Unless given the necessary conditions to construct inter-proletarian justice over past chauvanist prejudices of oppressor nations, the proletarian will never be united. By that same logic you and the other dipshits dont support divorce in marriage either.
No.535034
>>534986Judging by the fact that Russian tanks are getting fucked outside of the still in captured kyiv, it isn’t going well for Putin.
No.535035
>>535026i hope monke conquers poland just to make the local nationalists seethe. it'll be double based if he takes the crown off that fucking bird like in the polish people's republic
>>535028kys libfaggot
No.535036
>>535029Proletarian internationalism is when the EU is in cahoots with putin
No.535037
>>534963
Ukraine falls, libs will have the seething of the century and in time this anti-russia hysteria will blow over. EU is still energy and raw material dependent on Russia and is forced to finance Russia for the foreseeable future. Russia will pivot to Asia for the lost trade and in time europorkies will slowly open relations back towards Russia because that is where their capital pushes them. This is only a short term drop for Russia.
No.535038
>>535035>Racism dosent exist as a consecuence of bourgeois social manipulationNot a communist, not a leftist.
No.535039
>>535035You talk like a saboteur
No.535042
>>535034And that's not even counting the ghost of kyiv, the ukrainian raper, the turtle, the iron man of kyiv, etc
No.535043
>>535040>Chauvanism dosent exist<Proceeds to sperg out using chauvanist talking pointsIs this what Mao said that Great Russian chauvinist sentiments led to social chauvinism in the USSR?
No.535044
Anyone have the meme where white and black man fights while porky spectates, and in the next white and black man both look at porky and say "YOU DID THIS"
TRying to make a version like this but about russia/ukraine
No.535045
>>535038>We should accept their chauvinism because it ain’t their fault Tailism
No.535046
>>535041
He completely ruined the state department's plans to break up Russia through building up Ukraine. Europe never left US influence either, so nothing really changes.
No.535047
>>535043This mao sounds like a chauvinist
No.535049
>>535047burgoid non-reader typed this message
No.535052
>>534963
>Europe was already pivoting to a partnership with Russia and away from America.
Stopped with the killing of NS-II and zelins calling for nuclear weapons on Ukraine.
No.535053
>>535041
>Why is it so important to take over Ukraine?
Ukraine with NATO and nukes is an existential threat for Russia. The closer to their strategic core the enemy's missiles are the less mutual assured destruction is, well, assured… Because Russia can't put nukes in switzerland and dakota
No.535055
Putin is an absolute retard irredentist trying to restart the Russian Empire a la Tsarist reactionary retardation. This only strengthens NATOs justification for existing, not ruin it. Now nearly all nations and to some extent China are putting sanctions on Russia, doesn't matter if its small it still sends a message of isolation. Regular Russian people will suffer, but that doesn't matter because this is no longer a communist board but a board of doomers horny for war and no other alternative. Death to all chauvinists.
No.535057
>>535046This is one of the most absolutely retarded things I have ever read.
No.535058
>>534996Yeah I bet you'd support the US invading China with Turkey's help to stop the uyghur genodice as well lmao
No.535059
>>535055>Implying any of this is trueDelicious cope
No.535060
>>535048The plan was to build up Ukraine into a major player in Europe to cuck Russian exports. In the future it would be used as a launching point for an invasion. The importance of that region for Russia's security can not be understated. Why do you think Putin did this? Because he is evil crazy hitler?
No.535061
>>535046at least in germany there was a sentiment of resistence against us hegemony growing. like even the conservative party, who usually follow americas every direction, had high tier members discussing how europe should be less reliant on the us and start persuing its own interests. but that is all gone now.
No.535063
>>535055This place is so full of incels and schizos that it makes me hopeless
No.535064
where did all these ukrabots come from
No.535065
>>535056
It's not only Moscow but other cities, military installations silos etc. A first strike must be thorough, coordinated and fast to prevent your enemy to replicate, Ukraine in NATO would seriously add to the first strike ability of the US.
No.535067
>>535055>This only strengthens NATOs justification for existing, not ruin itYeah if Putin resigned NATO would just stop existing!
How many times history has to repeat so you retards understand that giving in to western bullying is the worst thing you can do.
You still are going to get sanctioned
You still are going to get sabotaged (unironically)
You still are going to be couped
Etc
No.535068
>>535064It's about noon america time
No.535070
>>535058Lmao where do you people even come from
No.535072
>>535064probably burgers woke up.
No.535073
>>535045This, no one here read any of Lenin and are tailing retard Putin instead of trying to build a movement from this stupid ass crisis. Tailing cowards afraid of their own state and they call themselves communist.
No.535074
>>535055 (You)
>>535061SPD leader even said that the US should GTFO of negotiations of NS2, since its a European matter. lel.
There will be a pro Ukraine demo in Germany. Isn't praising nazis illegal? Hehe
No.535075
>>535061Literally just all fucking talk, no action. Where was Europe when Trump was placing Iran back under sanctions despite keeping their word? Completely fucking toothless. American hegemony was never going to be eroded from within its member states.
No.535077
People says that Ukraine had regained control of Kharkiv, Kiev is also resisting.
This is a disappointment, Moscow looks weak, Putin should go maximum overdrive to force the Ukraine government to negotiate in favorable terms for Russia
No.535078
>>535074>Isn't praising nazis illegal? HehePraising Nazis is apparently ok and fully legal if they're anti-Russia.
Just look at all the American radlibs and "leftists"
No.535079
>>535060To create a dependent state to get those sweet arm deal casherinos. If this situation proves anything, is that NATO is unwilling to go to war with Russia. If they truly wanted it, they could invade through Belarus
No.535080
>>535073And what are you doing? All that Lenin you read is useless if you don't put it to work. Literally bogus information. So fuck off with your usless knowledge.
Unless you are doing what you demand others to do? Where is this movement you demand from others? I haven't heard of it, please share information on the area it controls.
Fucking smug retards.
No.535081
>>535064burger ours on copying mode.
Meanwhile: The compelte debunk of the 13 people killed in the port.
>If they buried us, then they thought they would bury us. We laid down our weapons and raised our hands. They lined us up on the pier, counted us, helped the wounded. Thought it would be worse.> No.535083
>>535082
nothing represents the international proletariat because it doesn't exist
No.535084
>>535074>Isn't praising nazis illegal? Not if they are from Ukraine apparently. Like our president even traveled over there after euromaiden and shook the hands of literal SS veterans from WW2.
>>535075>Literally just all fucking talk, no actionSo ou dont understand how real politics work. Im shocked.
> American hegemony was never going to be eroded from within its member states.It had been eroding for years now. They were unable to coup assad and manduro, things that would have been easy just 20 years ago.
No.535085
>>535081 (me)
>if they already buried us then it was all their plan to bury ushttps://twitter.com/Levi_godman/status/1497903598063210498 No.535086
>>535083face the wall saboteur
No.535087
SABOTEUR MOMENT
No.535088
<Scott Ritter, former marine intelligence officer
>Some quick military math: the Ukrainian Army has 215,000 soldiers who have been armed and trained to NATO standards. There are another 200,000 reservists, 50,000 border guards, and 60,000 National Guards. Russia has assembled some 200,000 forces in the vicinity of Ukraine, 70,000 of whom have as of this date actually entered Ukraine. Normal attacker-defender ratios call for a 3:1 advantage for the attacker. Russia is attacking with a 1:7 disadvantage. And they are winning.
<Mark Sleboda, intl affairs and security analyst
>Russia, despite an overwhelming military advantage, is intentionally fighting with one hand tied behind their back in this intervention & limiting use of its most powerful weapons systems. Because the Russian military is not only trying to minimize civilian casualties, but
>minimize casualties among the Ukrainian military as well. Russia's opponent here is not the Ukrainian people or military per se, but the US-backed Putsch regime that seized power in 2014 and the Banderites that make up its vanguard and brownshirts.
No.535090
>>535079Ukraine is wide open plains lad
Coincidently this is why turning it into an afghanistahn for Russia like the burger liberal think tank grantoids were salivating over was never going to work No.535091
>>796137
you should go back to /pol/ brainlet
No.535092
>>796137>>535080And this is why ladies and gentlemen, you dont trust anti-imperialist "comrades" that aren't also communists.
No.535093
>>535077>People says that Ukraine had regained control of Kharkivt. ukrainian source lmao
Pic realated is Kharkov rn.
>kiev resistinglol, you can find videos of Hinds 24 in theirs skies. that means they are fucked.
No.535094
The online synthetic left will cling to their worthless books and ideological lines even in the middle of a war
No.535095
>>796137
glowanglo aren't you tired of repeating the same shit constantly? You know people can see that type of shit.
And not everywhere the population is as dumb as in your country.
No.535096
>>535090I know, yet hard terrain is pretty much irrelevant in a total war between NATO and Russia
No.535098
>>535092don't trust anglos
No.535099
>>535093where is pic from?
No.535100
>>535090 (me)
Should have mentioned they were doing this before the current happening kicked off
No.535101
>>796137
Massive retard
No.535103
>>535061Your plan was wait for Germany to do something.
That's dumb
No.535104
>>535097Hitler in Mein Kampf likens slavs to the East to Indians for the American settlers. This "slavs are white too" come from two sources: 1) coping slav nazis; 2) Afro-americans who don't understand the history of the term.
No.535105
>>535092False-flag operation underway: >>796137 and here's your (you) for either falseflagging saying that or failiing for an obvious b8.
No.535106
Anyone have the meme where white and black man fights while porky spectates, and in the next white and black man both look at porky and say "YOU DID THIS"
TRying to make a version like this but about russia/ukraine
No.535107
>>796144
>going full fash
No.535108
>>535097Who cares? The USSR is dead and gone and not relevant to this conversation, were talking about the Russian Federation not the USSR that shit collapsed 30 years ago move on.
No.535109
>>535104>Slavs are Indians He’s not wrong, but the dot kind, not the feather
No.535110
>>535103what plan? what are you talking about?
us hegemony eroding is a fact not some schizo plan. touch some grass or eat some ass faggot
No.535111
>>534964>Putin is right on one thing; dividing the USSR along "ethnic" lines was a mistakeThe complication here is that the communists might not have won the civil war otherwise since the promise of national autonomy was crucial for winning over support in a lot of places.
No.535113
Every national proletariat is naturally concerned with the interests of its own country. Who would believe calls to abandon your national interests in favor of some vague ideological construct? Funny how what's good for the international proletariat also happens to demoralize any anti-imperialist struggle.
No.535115
>>535110pathetic
read book
No.535116
>>535108And why is it irrelevant?
No.535121
Imagine all the black market weapons for sale in the future for Ukrainian mafias and militias
No.535123
>>796174
Spoken like a true fascist
No.535124
>>535119Fun fact: ukrainian tanks also have those things on top of towers
No.535125
>>535113>Every national proletariat is naturally concerned with the interests of its own country. Who would believe calls to abandon your national interests in favor of some vague ideological construct?That's exactly why Lenin's strategy for national autonomy within the former Russian Empire worked at the time.
No.535129
>>796174Denying proletarian internationalism is fash ideology yes
>>535119Javelin wrecked the cage?
No.535130
>>535122Imagine Russia donating confiscated NLAWs to anti-US rebels. That will be top-tier irony
No.535131
>>535114>all that free weaponry in the hands of citizens>none of them using it to overthrow the government themselves, implement socialism, and beat Putin to the punch. What a waste
No.535132
>>535127Copium. Russia has air superiority over most of the country.
No.535134
>>535120why are they letting this being filmed from a second perspective? how are they this retarded?
No.535137
>>535127Khokhols failed to take Hostomel and even lost at least ten soldiers to getting tricked into coming there due to disinfo spread by Ukrops themselves. Hint: don't fucking spread malicious disinfo about enemy troop positions, it will cost your allies' lives
No.535138
>>535133>Can’t respond<Proceeds to copeSad
No.535139
>>535134one for the audience
one for the bossman to prove that you are indeed working on the project he pays for
No.535140
>>535132Yes i can see it from the helicopters and sukhois dropping like flies.
No.535141
>>534801Liberals are more obsessed with "le epic online dunk1!11" than actually ever helping people.
Unless they're Nazis. Then freedom of speech or something
No.535143
>>535051>they aren't an insignificant number they make up at least 20% of the national guard.Link me please.
No.535145
>>535127Speaking of the airport, the AN-225 there has been destroyed
Perfect symbolism for all this really. The legacy of the USSR being wrecked by chauvinists
No.535146
>>535133Yes, imperialism is a world system that reproduces national oppression by exploiting the uneven development of capitalism
It only applies to the G7/G10
No.535147
>>535135Cope more. The international proletariat won't try and execute you for treason, your country will.
No.535148
>>535133Hostomel airport was never was taken back by the Ukrainians they even admitted that themselves.
No.535151
>>535120It makes sense for them to do that tbh, the only thing Ukraine got for them right now is international public opinion.
>>535134The propaganda footage will hit news agencies and big twitter accounts and pro Ukraine people will ignore the fact that it was staged because it doesn't go their way.
No.535152
>>535088>Normal attacker-defender ratios call for a 3:1 advantage for the attacker. Russia is attacking with a 1:7 disadvantage. And they are winning.Clear superiority of Russia war doctrine and weaponry. All khokhols have is US media campaign
No.535154
>>535145>Speaking of the airport, the AN-225 there has been destroyed … The legacy of the USSR being wrecked by chauvinistsIt's just an airplane
No.535155
>>535146More importantly it’s based on developing financial monopolies which export money capital to developing markets in exchange for a profit
No.535156
>>535093Can't fucking wait for that Azov detachment getting decapitated for their stab-in-the-back tactics
No.535157
juan guaidó declared himsself the saboteur of kyiv
No.535158
>>535150Regardless of which class controls the state, it has real power over your life. That's a great deal more real than a purely theoretical ideal. Once there are global meetings and institutions belonging to the international proletariat, then it will be different. But that will never happen.
No.535159
>>796219
>Doesn’t understand imperialism
No.535160
>>796219
Unirionically yes. China supports Russia, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, DPRK. All the people most oppressed by Western Imperialism support Russia.
No.535161
bros, i just sabotaged…
No.535164
>>535160Also, Azerbaijan signed alliance with Russia not that long ago. Russia got allies out of this, huh
No.535165
>>535158>But that will never happen Could you at least put a but more effort in your psyop
No.535166
>>535162Ukrops will use chemical and bio weapons and US will desperately try to cover it up
No.535167
>>535164Azerbaijan stated it will support Ukraine with fuel
No.535169
>>535167Not to military vehicles
No.535172
>>796219
NATO expansionism has always been the biggest to socialism than the Russian Federation ever was. NATO members constantly scheme to overthrow socialist countries globally that don't bend the knee, while Russia is willing to ally with socialist countries as their foreign policy is based on pragmatism.
No.535173
>>535170After 24th/more recent
No.535174
>>535170>>535170This is quite literally before the invasion dumbass.
No.535175
>>535153Ukraine is scraping the bottom of the barrel in information warfare as well. See the government flat-out lying about Turkey blocking the strait to Russian navy, or
>>534815. If it weren't for the entire fucking Western mdia running propaganda for them nonstop, Ukraine might have already surrendered because of how obvious the asymmetry would be. The war goes on becuse the West iss propping it up with literal fanfic.
No.535177
>>535000
because most posters here are Goebbels tier retards
No.535178
>>535173>>535174>not true Azerbaijan is turning away!!!1Zelensky, like always, presented wishful thinking as the truth. In other words, lied to Ukrainians.
No.535179
>>535176
I love the west but I hate westerners.
No.535180
I'm waiting for reliable sources to confirm the glory hole of Kherson
>The glory hole of Kherson is an Ukrainian troony that has trapped the dicks of more than 38 Russian soldiers making them go mad with pleasure causing them to abandon the fight.
No.535181
>>535179i hate the west and i hate the westerners
t. slav
No.535182
>>535181Потому я вас уважаю.
No.535184
>>535180Based modern warfare
No.535185
>>535181правильно, тебя назначили скотом, таким и будешь
No.535186
i hate slavs and i hate westerners
No.535188
I cum on the west and inside westerners.
t. cum
No.535189
>>535174it's called Donbass
No.535190
Embedding error.
NOOOO HECKING PUTILLA THE HUN IS COMING TO KILL US ALL NOOOOOOOOOO
No.535191
>>535189No it's called Cuminyourass
No.535192
>>535180>making them go mad with pleasure causing them to abandon the fight.More like making them die of sepsis from fucking an inverted scrotum.
No.535194
lel the russian troops trying to score poon on dating apps are getting catfished for intel
take notss, lads. the clausewitz of the 21st century will have to be an expert in memes and dramedy
No.535197
>>535194Joes will be joes everywhere
No.535198
>>535195And your proof for this is?
No.535201
>>535000because the OUN B and the bnadera lobby is highly intertwined in the Ukrainian government, with huge elements from abroad, in the NATo, U.S., etc.
https://banderalobby.substack.com/You think naizsm is only the military branch, but to be in the military branch already, is because the ruling class allows it and promotes it.
No.535204
>>535194The majority of Russians don't even use foreign social media apps to begin with. I don't blame them for keeping their platforms free from Western liberal brainworms.
No.535205
>>535199
The proof for this is?
No.535206
>>535199
Why is Ukraine using children as human shields?
No.535207
>>535202the free world aint that free
No.535209
>>535195Dude, Ukraine has no military anymore, it's just bands of nazis and volksturm roaming around civilian buildings. No more vehicles, no more jets, no more drones, just brainwashed retards with guns. OBVIOUSLY, Khokhols are lying about Russian casualties, Nazis always do that when they lose.
No.535210
>>535200The front page of Reddit will upvote this without a second thought.
No.535213
>>534963
>only strengthening NATO and the US?
getting retarded sheep to agree isnt hard when you already control all the medias. Russia predicted things would only get worse for them, everyone would keep lying to them, sanctioning them, funding terrorist in their territories, and putting missiles ever closer, while they keep getting demonized.
Now they secure their strategic core interest, prove they dont mess around, get great advertisement for their military industry, show nato weakness, and plunge europe in economical suicide because they cant stop throating US cock.
No.535214
>>535208my sides
MORE EDITS LIKE THIS PLZ No.535216
>>535202NATO-Russia war in all but name
No.535217
>>535208Now you guys see why I was fighting retards on this site believing in Finnish figures of Soviet losses?
No.535220
>>535194Sounds like retarded "they're coming for our wimminz" propaganda that rightoids always push
No.535221
>>535196he might unironically be talking about the soviet invasion of manchuria in '45
No.535222
>>535218Russia is going to feel immense pain. RT can keep telling you they won't
You'll see the ruble value Monday
No.535223
>>535199You forgot your link
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/ukraine-cluster-munitions-kill-child-and-two-other-civilians-taking-shelter-at-a-preschool/>As first reported by the open source investigation organization Bellingcat,Probably done by ukranian Nazis in cooperation with the SAS the bongs have inserted
No.535224
>>535222In the short term (which might be enough to bolster the communist opposition). But the E-U depends on Russia, and I don’t mean for oil
No.535225
>>535197Moreover, stupid shit to get their dicks wet is not exclusive to russian troops, but all soldiers
No.535227
>>535222Aren't we supposed to welcome the crisis of capitalism?
Especially, after:
2008. Covid. EU banning Russia…
I mean.. The conditions!!!
No.535229
I'm gonna be honest with you anons: Russia is about to suffer tremendous blows.
Battlefield dynamics are just 50% of the picture at this point.
This sanctions are an onslaught comparable only to what Cuba and Venezuela have been through.
Without socialism condition of life of the average Russian are gonna rapidly deteriorate.
No.535230
So is NATO/EU sending troops into Ukraine yet or is it ogre? all this talk about economic sanctions is irrelevant, they can't even get Iran or North Korea to play ball on those terms and Russia has far more leverage. Maybe they will abandon Ukraine and commit to funding insurgencies throughout the Union State+Central Asia?
No.535232
>>535229It would have happened regardless. The west has been putting sanctions on Russia for a while now. At least Putin has the upper hand now.
No.535233
>>535229Don't worry Anon.
Maybe Russian communists will do something about this and take control in their hands.
But we can only hope and support Russian communists and propagandize socialism to the working masses so they can know the alternative.
No.535234
>>535229Which might accelerate Russia as well, or push them closer to China
Either way we be winning
No.535235
Anyone have the meme where white and black man fights while porky spectates, and in the next white and black man both look at porky and say "YOU DID THIS"
TRying to make a version like this but about russia/ukraine
No.535236
>>535229at worst it's going back to the 90s which isn't that bad since people know what to be prepared for
No.535237
>>535234who do you mean by "we"?
No.535238
>>534988
not fully under their control, but they clearly had enough power to keep shelling dombass
No.535239
>>535230>Turkey BLOCKS passage of Russian Navy through Bosporus Strait.They're doubling down.
I'm getting SERIOUSLY worried about the West launching an all-out assault at this point.
>>535234>>535233I'm worrying about average people anons.
It's hell living under sanctions in a socialist system like Cuba, in one like Russia it could be even harsher.
No.535240
>>535229I am more worried about the psychos in NATO. They don't want to lose Kiev and they are mad enough to go nuclear.
No.535241
>>535196>>535221Japan was never forced to reconcile with its imperial war crimes and a shockingly large amount of the populace does think they were victims. Oft heard in other countries the saying "Japan thinks the only thing it it did wrong in WWII was lose".
No.535242
You uyghas should get your finances in order and stuff
Things might be kicking off to next level
No.535244
>>535239That is true, it is hell.
But hopefully with the new Ukrainian govt Belarussia and Russia can sustain themselves more then Cuba or Venezuela or NK can.
No.535248
>>535222Position of Russian communists is that we need to support Putin in REAL denazification of Ukraine, OBSTRUCT his attempts to negotiate half-way, make him FINISH THE FUCKING JOB.
No.535249
it's been a few days for me. how much more badly are we getting spammed with coinpro and polshills compared to usual?
No.535250
>So many threads the counter had to be reset
>Still no screen cap compilation, let alone a video
I'm disappointed, /leftypol/
No.535251
>>535239the west ain't gonna do shit it took 6 months for America to bring their troops to Iraq by the time they get their shit together Ukraine will be distant past
No.535253
>>535246please remove that image
No.535254
>>535248Only a faction of the KRPF which represents the controlled opposition and has literal mussolini analysis of socialism thinks that. Cope
No.535256
>>535246>Only world destruction will usher a new age of Dionysian Socialism.Based.
No.535257
>>535229Vid related
>>535235>Anyone have the meme where white and black man fights while porky spectates, and in the next white and black man both look at porky and say "YOU DID THIS">TRying to make a version like this but about russia/ukraineSorry lad I don't
Try asking in a slower thread like
→ >>793501
Where people have been delivering maymays mebbe
No.535258
>>535247They voted for somone less retarded as poroshenko (in violent terms), but poroshenko's side was already in control.
Pic semirelated.
No.535259
>>535247Hes a U.S. puppet.
No.535262
>>535247 dumb and easier to mainpulate
No.535266
>>535176
Not because they're 'muh degenerate globohomo,' but because everything can be blamed on them as the hegemons. They could have negotiated this situation down years ago by "Finlandizing" Ukraine and refused. Doesn't mean that what Russia is doing is okay but it's not without some explanation.
No.535268
>>535254Nah, real communists think this way, because it advances communism the most. Denazification of Ukraine undoes HUGE chunk of capitalist propaganda potential. Imagine all the Ukrops who scream about Russian losses right now shutting up permanently.
No.535270
>>535266whats finlandizing?
No.535271
>>535247It was not for Zelenskyy but about ousting Poroshenko. Same vibes as Amerika-2020,
No.535272
>>535258His hairline is almost as repulsive as his ideology.
No.535273
Daily reminder that king leer glows
No.535274
>>535247Because we live in a society (of the spectacle)
No.535275
>>535261
They are extremely close to american intelligence agencies. Some people say they lied about chemical weapons in Syria and MH17. Paradoxically without them azov probably wouldn't be known well in the west.
No.535277
>>535270Basically agreeing that Ukraine will be neutral and won't join NATO
No.535278
>>535270Permanent neutrality/buffer state status
No.535279
>>535249With one of the proxies of nato being ass-gaped, probably a lot of raids, a lot of misinfo, and I am surprised we are not the target of a DDOS attack.
No.535281
>>535212No, I am the new leader of Belarus!
GLORY TO ME
No.535282
>>535280KPRF is not communist to begin with. I don't care, I was talking about real communists.
No.535286
>>535268No you have no idea what communism is, you're just being taken for ride.
No.535287
>>535282Plenty of other communist orgs, too, but are you really gonna reject the largest (albeit cucked) one out of hand?
No.535288
>>535282Like Russian ISA tendency or RSM? Maybe Вестник Бури or Konstantin Syomin?
But probably real communists are the ones who have the same views as yours.
No.535291
>>535266>Doesn't mean that what Russia is doing is okayIf the burgers don't like the denazification special operation currently ongoing in Ukraine they probably shouldn't have put literal Nazis who've been attempting genocide by artilary on eastern ukranians for the last 8 years in power with a coup back in 2014
No.535292
>>535287KPRF is basically reddish nationalists/socdems. It's weird how the degradation of khruschevite party sets in.
>>535288Have no clue about their opinion, tbh. Should watch them. I'd imagine it's "no to war" mixed with "khokhols do be fascists though"
No.535293
>>535289communism can only exist as a party of one in the end, any more people leads to inevitable sectarianism
No.535294
>>535292>I'd imagine it's "no to war" mixed with "khokhols do be fascists though"Yeah, most communist orgs see this as a destructive burg war of aggresion while harshly criticizing NATO and Ukrainian policies that led to it.
No.535295
>>535292>KPRF is basically reddish nationalists/socdems.Doesn't look like it:
<Russian Communists believe that the fundamental argument between capitalism and socialism which was the feature of the 20th century has not been resolved. In spite of temporary retreats of the revolutionary movement the present-day epoch is one of transition from capitalism to socialism.
<Capitalism, which today prevails on most of the globe, is a society where material and spiritual production is governed by the market laws of deriving maximum profits and accumulation of capital. Everything turns into a commodity, money being the main criterion in the relationships among people. The capitalist mode of production means unbridled exploitation of human and natural resources without any concern about the harmful consequences for the life of future generations and for the environment.https://cprf.ru/party-program/ No.535296
>>535261
bellingcat is literally mi6, they never spoke a word out of nato line
No.535297
>>535283Scott Ritter is correct on this. Fucking master of war. More posts like this.
No.535298
>>535278A treaty declaring Ukraine as a permanently neutral buffer state separating NATO from Russia is Russia's most likely goal in the short term; similar to the mandatory neutrality treaty imposed on Finland after the Continuation War.
No.535299
>>535275>without them azov probably wouldn't be known well in the west.complete bullshit
No.535300
Are there any reliable sources about what the fuck is going on? Everyone seems to be fucking lying, and I'm tired of finding out something I saw didn't actually happen.
No.535302
>>535300unironically russian ministry of defense. they rarely post, but when they do it's usually bare facts. everything else is psyops
No.535303
It's over
No.535304
>“I do not really believe in the outcome of this meeting, but let them try so that later not a single citizen of Ukraine has any doubt that I, as President, tried to stop the war, when there was even a small, but still a chance,” Zelenskiy said.
He said the quet part out loud in to a press conference.
No.535307
>>535283The only thing he is wrong about is ukrops being trained to NATO standards kek
No.535309
>>535301>Volnovaha kettlewhat does it mean, please be nice, I'm dumb
No.535310
>>535309Pot, encirclement.
No.535311
I hope zelensky is executed. People who like him annoy me
No.535313
>>535309means their troops are about to surrounded and liquidated
No.535314
>>535275>Some people say they lied about chemical weapons in Syria and MH17They did. When the OPCW whistleblower came out, they did a bunch of copium articles but it was pretty clear that they lied.
No.535315
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1497983921572794370Russian casualties are less than 1/20 what ukrops are claiming
No.535317
>>535283what's this guy's deal? I looked him up and he has multiple arrests for being a nonce
No.535319
>>535309Siege of the urban resisting forces. Instead going in, inmeadiatly, the Russians create a circle and move one step at a time closing the circle killing positions and craeting internal pressure.
It is very powerful when you have an army strong enough to siege and do this avodiing the guerrilla warfare.
No.535320
>>535299There are dozens of in depth articles about the far right in Ukraine from Michael Colborne. I think he's even the guy who found out the Christchurch guy was linked to them.
No.535321
never got why it's called a kettel when a crucible is a much better word for it
No.535322
>>535321russians really love tea
No.535323
>>535320>found out the Christchurch guy was linked to them.Didn't he (the terrorist) openly admit it himself?
No.535324
>>535301>>535318OH. Mariupol-Volnovaha pot contains 40.000 UKRAINIAN TROOPS
40 FUCKING THOUSANDS
That's going to be glorious, khokhols' scream in twitter will be earth-shattering
No.535325
@asbmilitary
>BREAKING: Russian MoD: “Ukraine's forces are using banned phosphorous munitions outside of Kiev.”
>This gives Russia green light for thermobaric rockets. Those things are naaaaaaasty. Sucks the oxygen out in circle of explosion.
>We’ve spotted these systems around Kiev by the way.
Jesus Christ it's happening. Russia will be despised for this. Ukraine should surrender
No.535327
>>534851NOO! The cis white male can’t be in my fake war stories!
- Lib
No.535328
>>535320sure, but I've been aware of them since 2014 thanks to leftist/communist independent news, and they were going there, not looking online photos.
No.535331
>>535306It’s just ordinary russian boomer shit
No.535333
Moscow authorities are now detaining and questioning citizens of Ukraine living in the city, some are accused of reaching immigration laws.
https://twitter.com/pchikov/status/1497983526347710471Chikov was a member of Presidential Council for Human Rights until 2019
No.535334
>>535325>Russia will be despised for thisThey already are.
The good thing about being a pariah is that it doesn't matter what you do, it can't get any worse anyway so may as well have some fun.
No.535335
>>796449
Silence, cockhole
No.535337
>>535317And we’re supposed to take your word for it being the same Scott Ritter?
No.535338
>>535333>reachingbreaching
No.535340
>>535317I recall he spoke out against the 2003 iraq war and then they tried to bury him by accusing him of being a pedo but who knows. I think he appears on RT a lot so his credibility is def sus.
No.535341
>>535325post source to actual russian MoD saying this
No.535342
>>535333And that’s terrible
No.535343
>>796449
There are multiple pics of the thermobaric systems. The only lies here would be what the MoD said about white phosphorous, which I don't doubt are lies. This will get very nasty
No.535345
>>535329Image letting falling a city of 1.419 million like this in 3 FUCKING days. 3
MOTHERFUCKING DAYS.
HOLLY GUACAMOLLY No.535346
>>535330Damn I'm broke till payday hope the ruble stays low till then so I can buy some at a bargain rate at a currency exchange
No.535347
>>796456
yep but between the ghost of kiev and that bullshit its soothingly factual
No.535348
>>535330What use are euros and dollars when they have sanctioned and blocked all imports? They've forced Russians into a full internal economy, which is exactly what Putin wants. They've been developing domestic replacements for all imports for this exact reason.
No.535349
>>535283Fuck yeah Jesus fuck I hate the transhumanist West
No.535350
>>796456
SILENCE, cockhole. Ukrops were caught again and again, again and again, again and again straight up lying regarding every issue. Russian info can be trusted by the virtue of it being accurate to the situation on hand, while from Ukraine we have only COPE about how they retake every settlement 5 times a day.
No.535352
>>535336The Racist of Kiev
No.535353
>>796449
Russian, sure, but disinfo? As opposed to NATO media?
No.535355
>>535301>Volnovaha kettle= ?
No.535356
What are the chances of Novorossiya?
No.535357
Any info on the walrus of kyiv
No.535358
>>535336Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there some exceptions in Islam where it is tolerable to consume pork, with one of them being force-fed pork?
No.535359
>>535329They gonna trow civies at the tanks, aren't they?
No.535360
>>535353Russia = disinfo
Source: western media told me, they can't lie!
No.535361
>>535336>that's a little yikesyeah no shit
No.535364
>>535330It was 120 rubles per dollar for some days in 2014
No.535365
>>535336Totally not okay, bossman!
No.535366
>>535336This is why Putin went to war. Russia is too multiethnic to let these people insult an important segment of their population, and threaten them with nukes and stuff.
I've been telling you guys. And that's why Kadyrov wants a full large scale military operation and he told to Putin he wants to control it.
No.535367
>>535358it obviously doesn't matter, azov nazis are just being edgelords
No.535368
Whose fucking side we on lads
No.535369
>>535358it's true but nazis are too stupid to know
No.535370
>>535336Do these morons think that this will stop the Chechens from pushing their shit in? If anything, they’re just asking for it now
No.535372
>>535358not like ukrops can hit a target anyway
No.535373
>>535358It is even tolerable to eat pork if there is nothing else to eat according to a lot of Muslim scholars
No.535374
>>796485
That's exactly what we are doing, though
No.535376
>>535368The proletariat’s. But make no mistake, anything that weakens NATO and strenghthen’s antiputin, communist support in Russia is a desirable outcome.
No.535377
>>535368the motherland and all that stands in the way of NATO
No.535378
>>535376>communist support in Russia isKautsky, it is Kautsky.
No.535380
>>535283sounds based but not going to blindly believe random twitter schizos
>>535368Critical support for Russia.
Desired outcomes:
1. Liquidation of Ukrop nazis
2. Relatively quick Russian victory with minimal civilian casualties and civilian infrastructure damage
3. Multipolar world develops as a result of Western sanctions; acceleration into Western imperialism collapsing
Anybody who disagrees with these three desired outcomes is a western imperialist fascist AND ukrop nazi apologist.
No.535381
>>535375>>535377You know that a “defeat” can also push Russia closer to China and/or bolster antiputinist, communist resolve in Russia, right? I hope that Russia achieves its strategic goals, but have some perspective
No.535382
>When military Twitter account says that Russia is winning a battle
IS RUSSIA RUN! LITERAL RT SHIT
>When the Ukrainian government account and poroshenko tweet about the ghost
OMG SO TRUE OUR SAVIOR FROM THE SKIES
No.535383
>>535378But Russia is a proletarian nation fighting against international bourgeoisie
No.535384
>>535368Just cause everyone is with Ukrain, I am with Russia.
[spoiler] In reality, both sides are bad, so… Nobody? The Proletariat only?[/spoiler]
No.535386
>>535381At this point, defeat means Russia will burned and divided. The west has so much hatred for Russia that they will do it simply out of spite. Victory is the only option.
No.535387
>>535383>proletarian nationOnly socialist states are that. You mean peripheral/semiperipheral
No.535388
>>535387I mean exploited by the international bourgeoisie and fighting for its independence
No.535389
>>535381I do but realistically we should prepare for the time after Putin.
No.535390
>>535384This is not 4chan, go back.
No.535392
>>535380>sounds based but not going to blindly believe random twitter schizosRitter is an ex-UN chief of staff who told to the U.S. intelligence that Iraq doesn't have WMD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GkmdCaBECsThis is the segment of the 6 hours long live in which Richard Medhurts interviews Ritter.
No.535393
Tweeting "be better" at the Nazis is like peak fuckin libs. You can't get more lib than that. We're done here, boys. Pack it in.
No.535395
>>535387There is an opinion that Russian state structures are socialist, while the political structure is capitalist.
No.535396
>>535383Stop with this shitposting. The presence of NATO externalizes the contradictions in Russia like how Russia externalizes the contradictions with NATO, the more these camps reach equitable parity in power and influence, the more the contradictions between national and international proletariat and bourgeoisie are heightened. “Pindostan” and “Gayrope” are one of the few things that give the Putinites some social legitimacy
No.535400
>>535398based, i was worried for a little bit
No.535401
>>535336Any /k/ fags here? What does greasing (with lard) your bullets do to your gun? Isn't that kinda dangerous?
No.535402
>>535330>Literally forced to use an already developed national industryWhat will the mautists say?
No.535403
>>535366no. russia went to war to secure its borders and prevent NATO from turning it into its bitch. everything else is incidental
No.535404
NEW thread?
No.535405
>>535401lard=pork
Chechens=muslim
do the math
No.535406
xello where is new thread???
No.535407
>>535401Gums everything up if you aren't careful
No.535408
>>535377what fucking motherland
No.535409
>>535405that wasn't the question
>>535407So at best it clogs up your reload mechanism, at worst…? It blows up in your face, or what?
No.535414
>>535409It's not going to obstruct the barrel and cause an explosion, but a bunch of greasy shit is probably going to cause jams and misfeeds and attract dirt.
No.535415
>>535411pope is going to ukraine?
No.535416
How did you fucks fill up a thread in 3 hours. At least tell me something actually happened in that time frame.
No.535418
>>535336total meme too because Azov are on the southern front and chechens are in the Kiev area, as much as I'd like to see them destroy the nazis
No.535419
>>535416retards filled up 20+ threads before anything of substance happened
No.535420
>>535414ah, okay. So it's basically fucking up your own gun to "own" the Muslims.
No.535422
>>535418Nazis aren't the smartest people
No.535425
>noooo you can't just support the CIA that's imperialism
At this point I would 100% support the CIA assassinating Putin with a nerve agent or something. Threatening the world with nukes means you've overstayed your welcome.
No.535427
>>535416The pope invited us to pray and fast for ukraine.
No.535428
>>535425nukes are… LE BAD
No.535430
>>535425Literally the Five Eyes and Europe then would deserve the same treatment. What is this double-standard?
No.535433
>>535428Yes global thermonuclear war is indeed le bad
No.535434
>>535429>go to nazi country>get treated badlyreally makes you think
No.535435
>>535430>b-b-but what about…Shut the fuck up
No.535436
>>535433Capitalism is worse. Nuclear war can destroy capitalism
No.535441
In Ukraine:
>the train conductor is racist
>the police is racist
>civilian guard is racist
>the border guard is racist
>nazi troops are racist
…but it's not fair to call this a "nazi state"?
No.535442
>>535436idk fam
we had capitalism for a while now and the majority of humans right now arent ash
No.535443
>>535436>annihilating the planet to own da bourgsYou're a joke
No.535445
>>535425Supporting death of this fucker isn't the same as really supporting CIA, honestly. Remember who supplied Ho Chi Mihn with weapons.
No.535446
critical support for thermonuclear war to own the libs
No.535447
>>535409By and large it doesn't really do anything but it's introducing a manner for which dirt to stick to your bullets and gum up your shit.
No.535448
>>535429Crazy how western media barely mentions this.
No.535450
Posadism used to be a popular ideology in these parts. Now suddenly nuclear war is le bad again. What's the matter, cold feet?
No.535451
>>535434The people there were foreign students. Women and children I understand, but weren’t the men supposed to fight and defend the homeland, per the words of the Ukrainian state? You could at least let the students go before the men, they have no stake in the war, ffs
No.535453
>>535450Everybody a gangasta until WW3 starts
No.535454
>>535448Also all the pro-ukraine libs defending this with "WE DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE STORY!" shit.
No.535455
>>535440yeah it seems like ukrop air capabilities are completely gone at this point
No.535456
Will you cheer Kiev getting Sarajevo'd?
No.535457
>>535454what the fuck is there to know apart from what's being denounced?
No.535459
>>535456Yes because I am an epic cringelord who is coping
No.535462
new thread
>>796633
new thread
>>796633
new thread
>>796633
No.535463
>>535452OH NO NO NO UKROSISTERS
No.535465
>>535441Russians can be pretty racist, too, man
No.535466
>>535445The USSR and PRC?
No.535467
>>535385I'm not a p*tinoid but I want Novorossiya to happen just for the cool flag
No.535468
>>535452>Ukraine is Nazi germany,>Zelensky is Hitler inside the Fuhrerbunker >Kiev is Berlin in april 1945.Maybe history is truly ciclical.
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