fighting alongside nazis for "mundane" reasons anarkiddie moment editionKiev encircled:
https://twitter.com/robcrilly/status/1497990061547216907Tejas in donbass still alive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7MQg5lFovI >>535469Anarchists fought side by side with NATO (and often nazis) in Hong Kong, Ukraine, Syria, Egypt, etc.
This is what no theory does to a mother fucker.
>>535484TRUST THE PLAN PUTINSISTERS
WE'LL SEND A FEW MORE ZOGLET BRIGRADES IN SO THEY CAN SURRENDER
>>535479I told you about liberals man
I told you dawg
>>535511Put /k/ and reddit on ukraine side.
Also in a very strange twist we're on the same side as /pol/ and patriots.win now.
>>535534:^( no fun allowed
>>535534I got that pic from /pol/ btw, dropped in to see what was going on. Always the same, they still can't see that capitalism is the one responsible for the degradation of the family and "degeneracy" instead of "muh jews"
>>535559A modern MBT may be capable of destroying that shit as butter.
These people have absolutely nothing to do against a proper army.
>>535541>tfw france,spain and ireland don't even get hitI don't understand why,but good for me I guess.
>>535572J-Reg moment
>>535571That's an empty tank. Khokhols wouldn't dare to get this close to an active tank. Meanwhile, in real news:
>>535566Also,
>>53548440 thousands Ukrops encircled in Mariupol-Volnovakha pocket
>>535567But it wouldn't actually happen under trump tho.
Trump is really just a moderate.
>>535609this whole fuckin' war's for nothing. you gotta be braindead to be under the presumption that russia is waging a noble war of liberation over the donbass/waging a noble war to denazify ukraine or that ukraine is waging a noble war of defense against evil russian invaders. it's what it has always been, from the very beginning, war for profit. it just so happens to be a wonderful happenstance that a bunch of nazis'll get stomped. however we should be entirely honest with ourselves, if the azov battalion didn't stand in russia's way, they'd probably be let off - and even after they're gone, that's only one neo-nazi group dead. there's more on both sides. no war but class war, comrade. no fight but the fight against all fascism.
war makes for strange bedfellows but even stranger enemies.
>>535653BASED
burn in hell ukrop
>>535652It sucks, some of the best footage on /k/ has been Russian military operations in Syria from official sources.
They glorified the Russian soldier who died fighting against ISIS and called in an airstrike upon himself.
Russia is playing these optics pretty close to the vest.
>>535655China has to close it's banks. If they don't the bank just get sanctioned. China cannot choose to use US Dollars one the US says they cannot be used. US has final say on all dollar transactions.
But, also, so did India.
I mention this because India is Russia's actually major ally in Asia. Russia and India have an alliance. Not China.
US media just does not want to admit this because they also want to bring India into their orbit, while they want to make China an enemy. So they create this bizarre world where China is a Russian ally and India is a neutral actor, when the exact opposite is the truth.
>>535672this must be fake
/leftypol/ told me Agent Kochinski bad
>>535663They're literally shooting their own people by calling them "saboteurs".
This is peak schizo.
>>535683"We condemn violence on both sides and call for a diplomatic solution" is the most pointless, non-committal bullshit statement a country can make, and is the equivalent of declaring neutrality.
Unless they said something new.
>>535683It's not their issue, so probably just objective observance of the fallout. China is also probably realizing that, without even intending to, it has become a major player in European affairs. This is actually the first time in history it has ever had this role. And it did nothing to seek it lol.
China should expect all sanctions laid against Russia to be used against them in the future. So they probably expect any anti-Russian sanctions to be a trial run for anti-Chinese sanctions, and will study them closely for countermeasures.
>>535684It's awful, pointless and is the direct result of arming the population and ideologically presenting this as a war of national annihilation by appealing to nationalist mythology.
>“The intensive efforts to transform Königsberg into a battle community were accompanied by the increasing violence of the summary courts. Intra-ethnic violence in the final months of the war is generally traced back to Party legislation, particularly to the ‘Decree on the Establishment of Summary Courts’ implemented on 15 February 1945 by Reich Minister of Justice Otto Thierack. The decree called for the formation of summary courts in areas that were immediately threatened. It is tempting to view the violence as a continuation of the National Socialist violence that started in 1932–3. There is a strong case for this argument since up to then, at a local level, Kreisleiter had often presided over ‘kangaroo-courts’ in their cities, while Ortsgruppenleiter had long led the charge against subversive elements in their respective districts.”
>“The plethora of law enforcers has given rise to many sweeping assumptions regarding their motives. Some of these men might have been ‘settling old scores’, and might have had a ‘private lust for power, [and] pathological bloodthirst’, but in Königsberg some executioners even seemed to have struggled with their task.After two Party officials had conducted a public execution of two soldiers who, during the final storming, had deserted and changed into civilian clothing, they immediately fled to the hinterland, only to be caught and executed the following day themselves. Nevertheless, the randomness of the checks and the executions created a climate of fear in the city. The French prisoner of war Clappier remembered that ‘a minimum of terror was enough to strike fear and apathy into the population. …” >>535690It doesn't make sense to extend anti-Russian sanctions specifically for Ukraine to China for any reason because the Middle East, India, and all of Asia will also not join in on NATO sanctions and will resist compliance as strongly as China or stronger.
That said, China is also not going to be able to choose to avoid economic sanctions. SWIFT sanctions are just being tested against Russia for when they get used against China. So there is no particular reason for them to sacrifice any strategic gains for the purpose of avoiding hostilities, which have already been predetermined.
>>535637Yes. Like how they can keep talking about the international order while violating it themselves. Carl Schmitt probably was right when he said
<Sovereign is he who decides on the exception.Good reads too:
https://nonzero.substack.com/p/why-biden-didnt-negotiate-seriously?utm_source=urlhttps://www.thenation.com/article/world/putin-ukraine-peace/ >>535696If only…..
Russia with a Soviet aesthetic and a state capitalist economy like China would be way better then what we have now.
Shit take I found on some other IB
>>535511>Russia side>Ukraine sidelmao you mean "pro-cappie side 1" and "pro-cappie side 2"
And then there's the "commie side" to which not everyone here belongs tbh
>>535708the power of idealism
>>535739pic somewhat related
>>535650>war for profitnot really, the US (and their arm industry) are the big instigators that profit of the crisis, but they aren't really in the war.
The war was started for strategic geopolitical interest, because putin felt he was loosing and it was only getting worse.
>>535779Cope harder Ukrainoid, Zelensky is going to be executed for crimes against humanity by the end of the week.
Screenshot this post, you know I'm right.
>The Atlantic Council (AC), the “semi-official think tank of NATO” that has championed a new Cold War with Russia, is well known for influence peddling. The Council has been connected to several Ukrainian oligarchs, namely Victor Pinchuk, who founded the Yalta European Strategy (YES) conference in 2004 to promote Ukraine’s membership in the European Union; Rinat Akhmetov, formerly the chief financial backer of the pro-Russian president Viktor Yanukovych, chased from Ukraine by protests hijacked by the far-right and triggered by his decision not to sign an association agreement with the EU in 2013; and Mykola Zlochevsky, the founder and president of Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian gas company that Hunter Biden infamously joined the board of soon after Yanukovych’s government was swept from power in 2014.
>Also evidently attempting to influence the United States government’s Ukraine policy via the Atlantic Council is what remains of the WW2-era pro-Nazi Ukrainian fascist leader Stepan Bandera’s postwar transnational underground network. Relatively few seem to realize, let alone appreciate, the extent to which the crypto-fascist Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists-Bandera (OUN-B) operates in 21st century Ukraine and especially the Ukrainian diaspora. Bandera’s sworn followers above all appear to exert influence in the Atlantic Council via the Center for US-Ukrainain Relations, more than likely an OUN-B front, and the Banderite-led Ukrainian World Congress, which officially partnered with the Atlantic Council in 2014 to implement the latter’s “Ukraine in Europe Initiative.”
>The CIA didn’t back Bandera, but nevertheless whitewashed his wartime followers and helped facilitate, if only indirectly, his cultish supporters’ takeover of the Ukrainian diaspora during the Cold War via the OUN-B’s Organizations of the Ukrainian Liberation Front. This postwar coalition of Banderite NGOs formally united internationally as the World Ukrainian Liberation Front after the 1967 creation of the World Congress of Free Ukrainians, what is now called the Ukrainian World Congress (UWC). The “Liberation Front,” which is today technically a member of the UWC, has adopted numerous names after the collapse of the Soviet Union, including the Organizations of the Ukrainian State Front, the Coordination Council of State Organizations in Ukraine, and the World Conference of Ukrainian State Organizations, but these days it is best known in English as the International Council in Support of Ukraine (ICSU).
>In the meantime, the Banderites have led the Ukrainian World Congress at least since 1998, when Askold Lozynskyj, a conniving attorney and OUN-B operative in the US for the past several decades, became its leader. After his 10-year term as UWC president ended in 2008, he became the chairman of the ICSU, the global coordinating body of OUN-B affiliated NGOs, which are also UWC members. “There isn't a politician in the United States,” Lozynskyj declared in 1997, “who will ignore or would ignore the Ukrainian American community or the issues which the Ukrainian community holds dear.” That has only become more true, but few if any US politicians appear to be cognizant of the Banderites’ co-opting of the organized Ukrainian American community.[…] https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/bandera-and-the-atlantic-council >>535761This is literally what happens when you have nazis in control of a portion of the military. They pretty much start killing anyone they have beefs with during a losing conflict. Also this shit happens when anyone can get a gun during a fucking invasion.
>Mf you don't like? >HE'S A FUCKING SPY!!!Its fucked up man.
>>535797>This saboteur shit is gonna get a lot of innocent people killed.Already happened.
Who the fuck thought that giving civilians weapons without proper training was a good idea? Even the volkstrumm had some basic training and more important
THEY WERE NOT FIGHTING AGAINST PEOPLE THAT LOOKED THE SAME AS THEM! >>797053so non-missionary sex is bourgeoisie?
i like the rest of the responses tho
>>535827same
>>535541I'M NUCLEAR
I'M WILD
>>535760I mean that's what China is.
I haven't seen anything otherwise.
They literally have private factories on their territory/private property and market relations.
>>535843People on /pol/ supports Putin because he's apparently fighting globohomo or the cabal.
People here supports Russia (not Putin really) because we hate NATO and Zelensky.
>>535838>I hate people that uses homos to shill for (neo)liberalism.Literally this, instead of just allowing LGBT people to exist normally and legally, they have to politicize them in the worst way possible, just so they can get hate crimed more.
Genuinely speaking this had done more wrong to LGBT then right.
>>535839They have a mixed economy with legislated redistribution and quality of life development policies, but the state does control what is considered the commanding heights of the economy (infrastructure, energy, defense, etc.) through a one party state that exhibits considerable power over their local bourgeois.
It’s certainly revisionist and likely not tenable for the long run, but To call it state capitalist is reductive.
>>535883Well, apart from a few stupid words, it's pretty much intelligible. Ukrainians almost always understand Russian, though.
>>535883No, common phrases easily understood, hard technical phrases (when not direct english transliteration) are not.
>>535871Globalist, international, finance capital vs national, small-proprietor, petit-bourgeois capital, as always.
The Democrat side seeks to maintain the stability of the global market and western hegemony over it, thus viewing immediate threats to its control over Europe, like Russia, as the primary danger, while the Republican side represents those who feel more squeezed by chinese export competition and thus see China as the primary enemy.
>>535871right-wing borgers since like the 90s have had like a really weird eschatological theory where basically the 'FINAL VICTORY' for them is American protestant evangelical conservatives and RVSSIAN TRADORTH MONARCHISTS forming an alliance to genocide the Chinese (See: Asians in general when they also tack North-Korea and Vietnam into the mix) with a combined land and naval attack.
They may or may not be aware this would lead to thermonuclear war.
But since borger evangelicals believe that they actually MUST CAUSE ARMAGEDDON they likely don't view that as a negative.
>>535944>Russia is annexing Ukraine.meme.
Putin's just going to expand the Donbass 'republics' and absolutely cuck Ukraine out of even having a military or joining NATO for the foreseeable future.
Probably also give crimea the right to draw fresh water from the big river
>>535787
>[…]After Askold Lozynskyj became the president of the UWC in addition to the Ukrainian Congress Committee of America (UCCA)—taken over by the “Liberation Front” in 1980—the conservative Ukrainian American columnist Myron Kuropas, who himself used to be associated with a rival faction of the OUN, opined that Lozynskyj is “someone I have known (and disagreed with) for decades. He is bright, brash, articulate (often given to demagoguery), thoroughly bilingual and dynamic. I have watched him mature over the years from a firebrand Banderite to a more nuanced Banderite.” Over twenty years later, Kuropas has said, “In retrospect I don't see Askold maturing for the better politically. He seems to still follow Bandera's dictum that ‘those who are not with us are against us.’ He still seems to push for OUN-B domination of the Ukrainian American community.” Of course, the transnational OUN-B’s goals extend far beyond the United States, but the Ukrainian American community and its allies in Washington are an important asset for the Bandera cultists in their perpetual struggle to take over Ukraine.
>Ever since Canadian Banderites succeeded Lozynskyj as the presidents of the UWC and ICSU in 2008 and 2013, respectively, both international organizations have been headquartered in Toronto. Eugene Czolij, former president of the OUN-B’s international Ukrainian Youth Association (Спілка української молоді, CYM) and more recently the Ukrainian Canadian Congress (UCC), became the new president of the UWC in 2008. He was succeeded by Paul Grod, another UCC leader and fellow “CYMivtsi,” in 2018.
>Those “elections” to the World Congress saw Stefan Romaniw, longtime chairman of the Australian Federation of Ukrainian Organizations and former CYM leader in Australia, named general secretary and then first vice president of the UWC. In 2009, the year Romaniw became the new global OUN-B leader, he spoke at an event at Stepan Bandera’s grave in Munich honoring that year as the 100th anniversary of his birth, as did Lozynskyj and Czolij. Three years later in Munich, Czolij addressed an ICSU conference, held in part to honor the belated 100th birthday of the late Yaroslav Stetsko—Bandera’s deputy, ideologist, and successor, who was likewise a fascist war criminal, Nazi collaborator, and anti-Semite.
>After the 2013-14 “Euromaidan” (aka the “Revolution of Dignity”) in Kyiv, Russia’s annexation of Crimea, and the spark of an armed conflict in eastern Ukraine between the new Western-backed Ukrainian government and Russian-backed separatists in the Donbas, the Atlantic Council launched its Ukraine in Europe Initiative following a visit to the United States by Arseniy Yatsenyuk, the new Prime Minister of Ukraine. Part of that initiative included the AC’s “UkraineAlert” newsletter, for which Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty’s Irena Chalupa shortly became a leading contributor. Although she briefly conceded in an article that year that Bandera collaborated with Nazi Germany, Chalupa has apparently never publicly acknowledged that before her stint with the US broadcaster RFE/RL, she worked for Stetsko in the OUN-B’s Cold War-era international headquarters building in Munich.[…]https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/bandera-and-the-atlantic-council >>535708Anglos gonna cope
Meanwhile
>Grads of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are working on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the area of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station. Kherson region. >>535910I don’t know the utility of the concept itself, but I’d say it’d be something like the Asian Tigers and de Gaullist France, Russia under Putin and Maybe Imperial Germany.
More or less under State Capitalism the State cultivates favorable relationships with national champions which it tries to incentivize into developing or pursuing a business strategy that incidentally meets the development goals of the country in conjunction with or even substituting a welfare state funded through taxation of these companies.
>>535952>>535954oh fuck off would you. get off the internet and think outside the comfort of your digitally mediated edginess.. how can you not see in putin's chavinism the anti-democratic weapon of reactionary authoritarianism.. how can you justify him? i hope that if at least you were in russia your positions would be different
>>535959this is almost feudlism level shit.what's your materialist analysis of this close-to-unexplainable situation ?
>>535989>he's a megalomaniac!>he's crazy!Cool political analysis, fucktard.
Next time you do a Yugoslavia, and then openly talk about doing the same to Russia and China, maybe consider others don't want none of that.
Surzhyk (Ukrainian: су́ржик, IPA: [ˈsurʒɪk]) refers to a range of mixed sociolects of Ukrainian and Russian languages used in certain regions of Ukraine and adjacent lands. There is no unifying set of characteristics; the term is, according to some authors, used for "norm-breaking, non-obedience to or non-awareness of the rules of the Ukrainian and Russian standard languages".[1]
Surzhyk is a Ukrainian word that could refer to any mixed language, not necessarily including Ukrainian or Russian. When used by non-Ukrainian speaking people of Ukraine, the word is most commonly used to refer to a mix of Ukrainian with another language, not necessarily Russian. When used in Russia the word almost always specifically refers to a Ukrainian-Russian language mix.
The Ukrainian word surzhyk (from Proto-Slavic *sǫ — «with» + *rъžь — «rye») — originally referred to mix of different grains that includes rye or a product like flour or bread made from such a mix.
The vocabulary mix of each of its constituent languages (Ukrainian and Russian) varies greatly from locality to locality, or sometimes even from person to person, depending on the degree of education, personal experience, rural or urban residence, the geographical origin of the interlocutors, etc. The percentage of Russian words and phonetic influences tends to be greatest in the east and south and in the vicinity of big Russian-speaking cities. It is commonly spoken in most of eastern Ukraine's rural areas, with the exception of the large metropolitan areas of Donetsk, Kharkiv, and Luhansk, where the majority of the population uses standard Russian. In rural areas of western Ukraine, the language spoken contains fewer Russian elements than in central and eastern Ukraine but has nonetheless been influenced by Russian.
The ancient common origin, and relatively recent divergence, of Russian and Ukrainian make it difficult to establish the degree of mixing in a vernacular of this sort.
>>535595>Russians don't instantly obliterate themIn Burgerfreedomland, police would have turned them into Swiss cheese
Man, Russians are being way too nice
>>535998waging war because you feel like it while you keep on doing your porky shit is actually bad, yes.
"the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is imperialist logic
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Over the competition I'm towering
Wrecking shop,
When I drop
These lyrics that'll make you call the cops
Don't you dare stare,
You better move
Don't ever compare
Me to the rest that'll all get sliced and diced
Competition's paying the price
I'm gonna knock you out (Hu!)
Mama said knock you out (Hu!)
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Don't you call this a regular jam
I'm gonna rock this land
I'm gonna take this itty bitty world by storm
And I'm just getting warm
Just like Muhummad Ali they called him Cassius
Watch me bash this beat like a skull
'Cause you know I had beef wit
Why do you riff with me, the maniac psycho
And when I pull out my jammy get ready 'cause it might go
Blaw,
How ya like me now?
The ripper will not allow
You to get with, Mr. Smith, don't riff
Listen to my gear shift
I'm blasting,
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Kinda like Shaft,
So you could say I'm shafting
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And I came up with a funky rhyme
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Shadow boxing when I heard you on the radio (Hu!)
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But now I got a new tour
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I maintain
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Shotgun blasts are heard
When I rip and kill at will
The man of the hour,
Tower of power,
I'll devour
I'm gonna tie you up and let you understand
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When I got a jammy in my hand
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Listen to the way I slay your crew
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I think I'm gonna bomb a town
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I gotta thank God
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>>536028Trump and the rest of the Republican establishment is against Putin.
/pol/ is against "glowop NATO globohomo nazi kholkol subhuman pigs"
>>536027Harsh one, no. But there literally is no nation that's supportive of Russia actions. Even China did not commit to anything. In Europe everyone is against it.
>>536031You do know though who will take the opportunity for that if it happens? Actually fascist which will get a support base. If it happens because everything that happened, like everyone knows, is because of pointless conflict Russia started.
>>536075Yea but Ukraine is allied to NATO
Checkmate
>>536063That's bullshit that made sense in the 80s, but nowdays it's meaningless. There's nothing anti-imperialist about a war between a capitalist state full of oligarchy against a capitalist state full of oligarchy. It seems like /leftypol/ just matches things like a bot.
if ("It is against NATO"){
itIsGood = true;
}
I'm pretty sure Hitler could be reanimated and started giving lipservice how NATO should go away and some retards here would support it.
>>535963🤮 moron guy
Meanwhile:
>Consequences of a missile attack on February 24 at the base of the Ukrainian Navy in Ochakiv, which was built, including at the expense of the United States. >>536079Basically this. I disagree with Putin's actions but liberals saying he cray cray is like baby brained smooth brained dumb dumb shit. Liberal fuckers be like Putin is le scary because "vibes", thinking that's an actual deep analysis of anything which actually is worse than a critical social-economic analysis.
It's why Hitler can be denounced but Nazi Germany and it's socio-economic system can he rehabilitated and implemented in the west. Blame all undemocratic shit on "one individual being cray" and the entire system becomes blameless. There are real ways to critic Putin that has nothing to do with him but with Russian socio-economics as is with the US, which btw rehabilitates and revises it's history a million more times than "le scary man Stalin" had ever did in his tenure as General Secretary.
>>536060>>536090And what everybody cynically calls "balkanization" is not epic at all, it destroyed precisely what the Balkans could previously be proud about, as opposed to nation-state stupidity in the "advanced" West.
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