Repostin for new thread
>>799121
Putin always said that Ukraine is a no-go zone for NATO, the glowies/natsec/establishment were all too self-confident that their leveraging Ukraine as a bargaining chip would never go challenged. Now that Putin has effectively called their bluff and made them look like retards, they are scrambling for a good answer to how to handle the situation - for now their "solution" seems to be try and turn Ukraine into Afghanistan, but the terrain doesn't allow it. Ukraine is as flat as a tomboy and has plenty of established infrastructure, a regional resistance is simply impossible to wage against a modern military.
Also, mind, their goal is to pivot from Russia to China, who is the much more imminent economic threat to the Burgerstani empire. This is still their goal, even as Ukraine is getting fucking ownzoned by Russia, so they are downplaying the strength of Russia to try and keep that transition expedient.
However, the inadvertent effect of that is that mainstream libs, who already think Putin is as evil as Adolf Hitler because of propaganda, is literally right now having his Downfall moment and they are about to destroy Russia via Ukraine, so the propaganda is all backfiring on the establishment's face because libs are getting hyper-invested in a victory they will never have rather than focusing on the establishment's intended target.
Another video of destroyed Russian Tigr-M vehicles in Kharkiv. They look like the same ones damaged and looted by Ukrainian soldiers this morning.
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1498110963429650433?s=20&t=q_4Vb5H42P2OuGuxHahiTwZ on truck for copers
(Maybe it's true thanks but you are ban evading. T-mobile astroturf)>>545419Oh wow
IN KHARKOV crazy how there could be recently destroyed Russian vehicles
IN KHARKOV when we know from our honest hohol sources that the Russians aren't there anymore
>>545434KWAB
god i hate libtards
>>545447the talks literally were for Belarus to not join the war, and Belarus joined about an hour later
Zelenskyyyyyy may be the most retarded world leader of all time
>>545480>A nuke burgerA what?
NATO army has been constantly flying over my house for the last 2 days.
US can’t absolve itself of responsibility for Putin’s Ukraine invasion>For the media and for members of the public more generally, the eruption of war creates an urgent need to affix blame and identify villains. Rendering such judgments helps make sense of an otherwise inexplicable event. It offers assurance that the moral universe remains intact, with a bright line separating good and evil.
>That rule certainly applies to the case of the invasion of Ukraine. Russia is the aggressor and President Vladimir Putin a bad guy straight out of central casting: On that point, opinion in the United States and Europe is nearly unanimous. Even in a secular age, we know whose side God is on.
>Yet such snap judgments rarely stand the test of history. With the passage of time, moral clarity gives way to ambiguity. Clear-cut narratives take on hitherto unrecognized complexity. Bright lines blur.
>World War I illustrates the point. The conflict began with the German Army invading France. When the war finally ended, the victorious Allies charged Germany with “war guilt,” a judgment that accomplished little apart from setting the stage for an even more disastrous conflict two decades later. It turned out that in 1914 there had been plenty of guilt to go around. Among the several nations that participated in that war, none could claim innocence.
>A similar rush to judgment regarding Ukraine will inevitably inhibit our understanding of the war’s origins and implications, with potentially dangerous consequences. Yes, Russian aggression deserves widespread condemnation. Yet the United States cannot absolve itself of responsibility for this catastrophe. Indeed, the conflict renders a judgment on post-Cold War US policy. That policy has now culminated in a massive diplomatic failure.
>The failure stemmed from two defects that permeate contemporary American statecraft. The first involves hypocrisy and the second a penchant for overreaching.
>Condemnations of Putin emphasize his disregard for what US officials like to call a “rules-based international order.” Russia’s invasion of Ukraine violates ostensibly sacrosanct “norms” that prohibit military aggression and demand respect for national sovereignty.
>This is rather rich coming from the United States, to put it mildly. During the post-9/11 war on terror, successive administrations made their own rules and established their own norms — for example, embarking on preventive war in defiance of international opinion. If Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is a crime — as I believe it to be ― then how should we classify the US invasion of Iraq in 2003?
>Putin appears intent on using violence to impose “regime change” in Kyiv, installing his own preferred leadership there. Biden administration officials express outrage at that prospect, and rightly so. Yet coercive regime change undertaken in total disregard of international law has been central to the American playbook in recent decades. Whatever Washington’s professed intentions, democracy, liberal values, and human rights have not prospered, whether in the Balkans, Afghanistan, Iraq, or Libya.
>Perhaps we should not be surprised at such inconsistencies. After all, hypocrisy is endemic to politics, both domestic and international. More troubling is the difficulty US policy makers apparently have in accurately gauging US interests and comparing them with the interests of others. This is where the overreaching occurs.
>Consider this simple definition of the phrase “vital interest”: a place or issue worth fighting for. Putin has repeatedly identified Ukraine as a vital Russian interest, and not without reason.
>President Biden has been equally clear in indicating that he does not consider Ukraine worth fighting for. That is, it does not qualify as a vital US interest. At the same time, he has refused to concede the legitimacy of Russia’s claim. In concrete terms, he has rejected Putin’s demand that NATO’s eastward march, adding to its ranks various former Soviet republics and allies, should cease without incorporating Ukraine, which Russia deems an essential buffer.
>The argument made by several recent US administrations that NATO expansion does not pose a threat to Russian security doesn’t pass the sniff test. It assumes that US attitudes toward Russia are benign. They are not and haven’t been for decades. It assumes further that Moscow has no interests except as permitted by the United States. No responsible government will allow an adversary to determine its hierarchy of interests.
>By casually meddling in Ukrainian politics in recent years, the United States has effectively incited Russia to undertake its reckless invasion. Putin richly deserves the opprobrium currently being heaped on him. But US policy has been both careless and irresponsible.
>As is so often the case, this is an unnecessary war. But the United States is no more an innocent party than the European countries that in 1914 stumbled into war.
>Andrew Bacevich is president of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft.https://web.archive.org/web/20220225215839/https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/02/25/opinion/us-cant-absolve-itself-responsibility-putins-ukraine-invasion/ >>545510jej
Here's a fun photo from the Armenian war
>>545530I mean, if you can successfully predict and bait a pincer, you can slam into the their flanks, getting two encirclements of your own.
>>545504>>545501Yes. HoI4 invented encirclements.
>>545543these are likely anti-war libertarian types a la Scott Horton (the guy who runs
https://www.antiwar.com/ /
https://scotthorton.org/)
>Its users have called him “Putin the Great,” “the best legacy of the former Soviet Union” and “the greatest strategist of this century.” They have chastised Russians who protested against the war, saying they had been brainwashed by the United States.
>As the world overwhelmingly condemns Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the Chinese internet, for the most part, is pro-Russia, pro-war and pro-Putin.
>Mr. Putin’s portrayal of Russia as a victim of the West’s political, ideological and military aggression has resonated deeply with many on social media. It dovetails with China’s narrative that the United States and its allies are afraid of China’s rise and the alternative world order it could create.
>A translation of Mr. Putin’s speech on Thursday by a nationalistic news site went viral, to say the least. The Weibo hashtag putin10000wordsspeechfulltext got 1.1 billion views within 24 hours.
“>This is an exemplary speech of war mobilization,” said one Weibo user, apjam.
“Why was I moved to tears by the speech?” wrote ASsicangyueliang. “Because this is also how they’ve been treating China.”
>The strong pro-war sentiment online has shocked many Chinese. Some WeChat users on my timeline warned that they would block any Putin supporters. Many people shared articles about China’s long, troubled history with its neighbor, including Russian annexation of Chinese territory and a border conflict with the Soviet Union in the late 1960s.
>One widely shared WeChat article was titled, “All those who cheer for war are idiots,” plus an expletive. “The grand narrative of nationalism and great-power chauvinism has squeezed out their last bit of humanity,” the author wrote.
I>t was eventually deleted by WeChat for violating regulations.
lol is the Chinese internet just /leftypol/? it even has the annoying guy who tires to force us to adhere to theory while we are having fun
>>545555He already said in that video that Ukrainian soldiers will be put into work brigades to rebuilt Donbass, kek
COMMISSAR CLETUS IS REAL
>>545566Technically and by definition, fighting imperialist powers to gain market competition in the energy market for a nationalized resource would be the anti-imperialist position. That's not supporting for Putin. It is support for the anti-imperialist position.
This is a great example of how virtue-signaling neglects the real-world impact of NATO's imperialism, especially its impact on people who are made into pawns of a proxy war to maintain a cut of Nordstream 1's profits and to shut off Nordstream 2, which bypasses the transit fees.
Imperialism would be invading another country on behalf of monopoly-oligopoly capitalism–seizing their resources, eliminating competition from the market. Nordstream2 is more competition in said market…and that's why NATO wants a proxy war.
I don't support Putin. He's a capitalist, but he nationalized Russian energy, slowing the neoliberal blood-letting of Russia during the 90s. It's the people of Russia, not oligarchs, who benefit from the sale of their energy. That's why NATO started a proxy war in Ukraine.
>>545590It really took 5 weeks to take Poland over? Scratch that,
half of Poland? and they called it blitzkrieg? embarassing.png
>>545592this
>>545608Pull them out first?
>>545611A single one won't hurt them, if the hundreds of tests during the cold war are anything to go by.
>>545651This war will not even last a month.
>>545642Sadly, they will not get there in time for us to get footage of then being minced up or surrendering while yelling memes in English about evil the Russians are
>>545672It’s frustrating, but what you gonna do?
I do think that people will grow sick of if when Ukrainian media accounts reveal how much of savage chauvinistic pigs they are. Like the fuckers with the pig fat
>>545672Facebook=Conservative schizo cancer
Twitter=liberal cancer
Analysis: social media is all cancer
>>545645based and checked
no war but class war
>>545643Belarus was kinda like the good brother of Russia while Ukraine has always been a little fag. In 1998 I think, Lukashenko negotiated a Union State with Russia, where they were closely tied together. Some theorize he intended to seize control of both countries through the Union State because of his relative popularity and the fact that they wanted to lynch Yeltsin, but Putin turned out to be Yeltsin's release valve. The two stayed somewhat antagonistic throughout the 21st Century, but remained with the Union State and the two countries still cooperated heavily.
A couple years ago, the CIA regime change dominos finally made its way to Lukashenko and though he resisted it and maintained his country. The EU in particular went retarded (like they are right now) and tried to destroy him with sanctions while promoting that bitch who looks like Human Shrek as the President. At this point, Lukashenko had no choice but to become further integrated with Russia, as we see now.
>>545694Of course they don't. But Ukraine is right in their backyard.
The fire was never going to be contained in Middle East. And now, it just got a little closer.
The fire spreads.
It is hungry.
It is coming.
>>545615russel also said that putin was going to lock her up
which means its definitely real
>>545635It seems that the longer this war goes on, the worse the PR front gets for NATO and their fash puppets. The latter side has absolutely nothing but a very shallow and cynical "pray for Ukraine 🙏🇺🇦😔" narrative of a war of aggression which can only ever become weaker in the face of, besides the shameless racism in official Ukrainian social media profiles:
-the sheer incompetence of the regime (distributing rifles to the untrained populace while telling them there are Russians disguised as Ukrainian troops around);
- the ridiculously obvious lies (Zelenskyi himself falsely claimed Turkey forbade Russian vessels from crossing into the Black Sea) and propaganda (using fucking vidya footage to build up the "Ghost of Kyiv");
- the casual racism on display by various pundits in TV (not all of them Ukrainian);
- the inevitable leaking of the civil war before this invasion into the mainstream public;
- the numerous reports, with video, of non-whites getting blocked from evacuation vehicles and being barred by Ukrainian troops from leaving the country and probably a bunch more stuff I'm forgetting.
And the biggest blow might be yet to come, after the Azov nest in Mariupol falls. As the nauseating normie wankfest of Ukraine flags and false outrage wanes, Putin might actually gain the upper hand in the PR war, even with all of Western MSM media running interference.
As an aside, I wish I could wring the neck of all the gung-ho liberals who fucking dare bring up imperialism and self-determination of the peoples as if they invented these concepts right fucking now and as if Ukraine hasn't been a puppet State for 8 years thanks to a color revolution they applauded.
>>545680neither
>>545699he could, he won't. it is not in his class interest.
unless Russia unexplodes the big plane in the next 24 hours, I would like to say that I hope no stone is left unturned by other countries seeking ways to support Ukraine. the only vehicle in the Russian armed forces that could possibly stack up in losses-terms is their an-124s, and there's enough of those that we can lose a few. every other active vehicle, pile the wreckage high.
>>545690"civil war", civil war, started in 2001 nobody here was alive back then or remembers what the TV coverage was like.
>>545731nobody's nuking anyone over Europe's grainbasket.
the breadbasket, maybe. the big planebasket, may– sorry, i got distracted. anyway, it's not happening. if you live in a first world country the only thing you have to fear is fear itself. and your own government's incompetent economic and social policies.
you guys must be following the absolute bottom of the barrel on social media because the only retards i find are in the replies to good takes
>>545746what /pol/ doesnt like
>>545731>Odds are, we'll be nuked tomorrowIf only.
go smoke weed or something
>>545727"The Indians will not reap the fruits of the new elements of society scattered among
them by the British bourgeoisie, till in Great Britain itself the now ruling classes shall have
been supplanted by the industrial proletariat, or till the Hindoos themselves shall have
grown strong enough to throw off the English yoke altogether"
Perhaps I am misreading it but it doesn't seem to me like he's bigging up the colonialism in India but that he is stating that colonialism has built up industry in India, industrialization being a good thing to a certain extent (in my eyes, atleast), but that the people of India will not be able to experience the fruits and benefits of this new industrialization until their colonial masters are overthrown or pushed out.
>>545739It is a matter of the national bourgeois of two countries fighting one another over profit (however it may manifest or diguise itself as otherwise), it stands completely adjacent to any form of anti-imperialism although I am inclined to agree with you that this war does not represent a war of imperial conquest. However, I disagree that one should not blame Putin. He, amongst all the other world leaders representing their respective national bourgeois, deserves blame and red terror. So does Biden, so does Zelensky, so does even the most milquetoast statesman that works in the interest of capitalism. There is no compromise, no good 'bourgeois figurehead', they are all our class enemies and as Communists we should have atleast the integrity to not have to align and coddle ourselves to any representative of the bourgeois in pinning hopes they will liberate us or that they will perform a great resistance towards global capitalism, regardless of if it goes against their class interest. It reeks of opportunistic socdem nonsense, like thinking AOC or Bernie or Corbyn would've set the trend towards a world socialist republic.
>>545778he wasnt based he was basic as fuck
¨trains are better than cars¨ is only a remarkable thing to say in burgervilles
>>545774Hell, I'll donate a few bucks if Zelensky does a live gaming stream
Even more if he does it in programmer socks
>>545782will read, cheers. as i said, i may have misinterpreted it.
>>545748please spoonfeed me a torrent link, I can't be paying 60 USD for niche strategy game.
>>545777>Perhaps I am misreading it but it doesn't seem to me like he's bigging up the colonialism in India but that he is stating that colonialism has built up industry in India, industrialization being a good thing to a certain extent (in my eyes, atleast), but that the people of India will not be able to experience the fruits and benefits of this new industrialization until their colonial masters are overthrown or pushed out.Yeah you're reading it correctly from what I remember (not read it in years lol)
>>545782Not sure why everyone thinks this document is a refutation of the first. They're tangentially related by being about India and it's that it. The second is mostly just talking about violence throughout history, whereas the first is talking about colonialism as a historic process of capitalism. If anything you could say the second is building on the first and further justifies the position.
>>545791the russian mission is to gain territory, especially urban centers and power stations/military facilities. Also the goal is to eliminate enemy combatants or push them to defect.
The donetsk and luhansk mission is to capture all of donetsk and luhansk and help russia in their capture of ukraine.
The ukrainian mission is to not allow that.
>>545791it's because russia didn't btfo everything in the span of a netflix binge, and because western libs are all virtue signalling on twitter, so ukraine is winning.
Meanwhile, in reality, russia is trying to not make it a bloodbath and hasn't even taken the gloves off yet
>>545801virgin western war map:
>slow, muted colors, only a few labelsChad Chinese War Map:
<Fast, Bright Colors, Labels Everywhere, Big Globe >>545789>>545794I feel a little unqualified to talk about it further, I know shamefully little about the history of India. No investigation, no right to speak. I welcome more reading material and education, though.
>>545803checked & perhaps you are right. you are 100% right on the difference between national bourgeois and monopoly finance, I should have picked my words better. My mistake. Although I can't bring myself around to believing that Russia hasn't entered the stage of imperialism. It is indeed weaker than the empire constructed by America but I wouldn't say that detracts from its own nature of imperialism. Regarding multipolarity though, I am most definitely not educated enough to talk about that, that is a newer concept to me. I'll investigate before I speak.
>>545797It's ok CNN everything will end soon in a blast of nuclear fire.
And I hope the HQ's of Facebook and Twitter become targets.
>>545812Now it is.
He's a LaRouchie at this point.
>>545852Weird satanic imagery.
>I'm getting comet Ping Pong vibes.Anybody know what this canoe thing means?
>>545680anyone but russia
>I ask you, what has changed? Has the danger from the Russia side been lessoned? No. Rather, the delusion of the ruling classes of Europe has reached its pinnacle. Above all, nothing has changed in Russia's policy, as her official historian Karamsin admits. Her methods, her tactics, her maneuvers may change, but the pole star – world domination – is immutable. Only a crafty government, ruling over a mass of barbarians, could devise such a plan nowadays.>Thus Europe faces only one alternative: Either Asian barbarism, under the leadership of the Muscovites, will come down on Europe like an avalanche, or Europe must restore Poland and thereby protect itself against Asia with a wall of 20 million heroes, to win time for the consummation of its social transformation.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867/01/22.htm >>545818I swear, Maupin talks out of his ass 95% of the time.
Did you watch the stream last night where Nathan Rich scolded him on Chinese history?
>>545785This morph makes me appreciate how round Putins head.
It’s very orb shaped
>>545877Civvies in Kharkov bitch at Nazis hiding near their homes. Some give info to Russian troops to blow up Ukrop vehicles and positions.
Civvies have extremely low morale. Ukrop forces try to retreat at the first opportunity, the only units that fight are Azov Battalion-like groups, and there's like dozens of people in them, and they instead of fighting hunt single trucks for propaganda purposes and wins in Twitter.
>>545731Omg they gonna nuke us i won't be able to… to… work.
Because that's all there is. I'd rather enjoy some fireworks at this point. I'll always be able to drink myself to death just in case
>>545879Even "we" can be pretty stupid. During the Paris commune people were also heavily paranoiac and I think a lot of innocents died. Of course the commune was way worse and bloodier, just imagine if Kiev was fighting the Russians
and their nato backed government.
Apparently now they're going to town on Indians
https://twitter.com/omkar_anwes/status/1498154111363010568@ZelenskyyUa
and his officials only have concern for the individuals with white skin and blue eyes. Visuals of #Ukrainian Army beating Indian girls with iron rods are horrifying. You have lost all the sympathies #Ukraine
#indianstudentsinukraine #ShameonUkraine #UkraineRussiaWar
>>545909It doesn't have that exact picture but here's one of their guys accounts:
>>545851He's posting he's already in Ukraine.
>>545923STRENGTH AND MUSCLE AND JUNGLE WORK
STRENGTH AND MUSCLE AND JUNGLE WORK
>>545931Found this too (original link has videos)
https://www.quora.com/Is-Forward-Observations-Group-legit-https-www-youtube-com-c-ForwardObservations-videos-I-seriously-doubt-it-but-it-seems-a-lot-of-people-believe-they-are-real?share=1>Judging from what I’ve seen, my guess is there a Media-Based Private Military Company composed of former SOF who do marketing, and possible security services.>My proof?>Well, to start, FOG works closely with the GBRS Group, a Company composed of former NSWC Operators who seek to train others, such as Law Enforcement. When they do, it’s mainly filming them or creating promotional material.>A Trailer for a supposed upcoming show, which is a documentary-based show of the GBRS Group, which is being filmed by FOG.>Another interaction between the two entities is when they filmed themselves performing Civilian Parachute Jumping>They also seem to do promotional materials. For example, Ferro Concepts, which produces and sells/distributes military gear often has LOG Collaborations, from acting to filming.>Note the gear of said actor in video^^>Also, others have claimed those who run FOG are composed of 75th Ranger Regiment Personnel and Mercenaries, though I am yet to verify all of this.>They also seem to do charity as you can note from the description of one of Ferro Concept’s videos.>So summed up, from what I’ve seen, FOG is composed of former SOF with Military tastes who collaborate with other Veterans and Military Companies to produce promotional material, videos, and to have a generally good time.>(Ps, some entities I’ve mentioned here have Linkedins so view that for further business information.>I forgot to mention, there is some combat footage from the Forward Observations Group which verifies SOF claims, and it does support that they may perform combative operations like a typical PMC of sorts. I’ve also found their charity video, I’ll link all of it right here >>545946Big brain
>>545942lmao x2
>>545946There's info that Nazis hide in bunkers alongside civilians and threaten them with punishment if they are ratted out.
Fuck, there needs to be a huge ass cleansing of Nazi infestation.
>>545930>i have noticed some of BLM twitter is noticing how urkraine and poland are treating poc refugees like shit and welcoming whites.My commie group had a meeting and (non-white) members in it from Global South countries (which incidentally have friendly relations with Russia) were much more hardline in defense of Russia with no patience for talk about Russia being an "imperialist" country. One also pointed out the treatment of refugees at the Polish border specifically. But one also made the point that communists in western countries can't really take a "pro-Russian" position, like that doesn't work "for us" (in the West), while a straightforward anti-NATO position would be correct.
They also seemed to give much less of a shit about Putin specifically. Like the Western discourse is whether Putin is "good" or "bad" in a moral sense (you also see Maupin and Haz types say that Putin is "good"). But the sense I got from these comrades is that, for them, Putin is just the head of the Russian government.
>>545952does anyone have the text about how Sauron is actually good because he wants to industrialize the middle earth and get rid of feudalism?
Also here's another saboteur themed OC
>>545963No! Muh Silmarils!
*makes oaths and slays kin*
>>545967Annexation would mean that Ukraine officially becomes a member of the Russian Federation. Regime change would mean a complete restructuring of the government and a new political system/ party put in charge. It's likely however that said regime change would be sympathetic to that of Russia- and could possibly act as a Russian puppet state.
Given the sanctions that Russia has been placed under, the assets from oligarchs that have been frozen, and the fact that Putin has launched an aggressive act which has only emboldened other countries to join NATO, I wouldn't be surprised if he's going to annex it.
>>545967annexation would be the big no-no under the "post ww2 order", but the way things are going the west seems determined to completely exclude russia from that order, and russia seems to have accepted that and dgaf.
if russia still clings to some hope of having a place in the western order after this dies down, then some form of regime change that settles the nato and donbas/crimea issues is the way they'll go.
>>545990This. It's not like they've tried to support revolutions before in the USSR, so politically there's some experience. It's what I would have tried to do in his place. Maybe it is really one of those things where ideology has a factor.
>>545985>Annexation would mean that Ukraine officially becomes a member of the Russian Federation. Regime change would mean a complete restructuring of the government and a new political system/ party put in charge. It's likely however that said regime change would be sympathetic to that of Russia- and could possibly act as a Russian puppet state. So what's the different? A puppet state takes more administrative capacity to control and manage compared to just simply making Ukraine a federal subject?
>>546002Ukrainians blew it up, hilariously enough. They bombed the Hostomel airfield in retaliation, and Mriya went up in flames.
I guess Mriya was a saboteur, eh?
>>545990Last time I checked, The Russian Federation doesn't have an international intellgience agency the equivalent of the CIA, and nor is it part of a NATO or other shared intelligence agencies. Keep in mind, the US and her allies have massive connections and allegiences to other western superpowers who are complacent in the USA's fuckery. Does Russia have such connections/ allegiences?
>>545993Hey, I have no doubt that NATO will still go after them, but Russia is utilizing agressive tactics and an invasion WHILE UNDER SANCTION. If Russia's going to survive, it will have to find resources to extract. Annexing Ukraine or having a Russia friendly government in place will likely help them.
I'm not trying to be pro-NATO or Pro-Russia for that matter, I'm just giving my outsider looking in analysis on the matter and predicting what MAY HAPPEN. Lord knows, I could be wrong, and I won't be flabberghasted if I am.
>>545996That is a good point, but a puppet state in comparisson to being a federal subject, has significantly more autonomy both economically and politically. It doesn't have to supply federal taxes to the federation its part of, nor is it entirely beholden to Russian federal law, and it too will not subject to the embargoes placed on Russia. The only thing this puppet government is likely to do is not act in any way that will be detrimental to Russia- say… signing up with NATO.
>>546002Someone recorded its last takeoff a while back
Goodnight sweet prince
>>545889most people here saying putin is doing a good hoi4 encirclement
meanwhile vickky 2 player here and im thinking putin is fucking over his economy and thus is noob
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