No.552722
He's an American puppet. They probably instructed him to make insane demands so that no agreement can be reached
No.552723
Zelenskyy like all good liberal Western puppets said whatever he needed to say so he could get elected to then betray his promises to take orders from his real masters. If he had truly supported peace with Russia he would have been assassinated or jailed before he even ran his campaign.
No.552724
>>552721>What the fuck happened since then that he now actually believes the West will help him achieve all of these goals now? I wonder?????????
No.552725
>>552722He's probably not even receiving direct instructions from the Americans. I bet it's his """advisors""" who have glowie links, like Guaido's dude who contracted the mercs for Operation Gideon.
No.552726
he seems like an idiot, what do you expect from a tv personality turn president.
No.552727
>>552722>>552724It definitely all plays into the hands of the US, so him being an American puppet would make sense. But what I was thinking is that maybe he just genuinely got deluded into thinking that the West would actually have his back like he's asking for.
>>552725Or like you said maybe he got spooks in his ear.
No.552728
>>552722Biden said that if Ukraine goes neutral, USA will back him. Even the US wants this to end, even if that means Ukraine not joining NATO.
>asked for a no-flyzone from NATOEvery single NATO country, including the chief of NATO, Jens, have repeatedly confirmed that NATO and NATO countries will not get involved, except sanctions and military aid.
No.552729
>>552728>Biden said that if Ukraine goes neutral, USA will back him. Even the US wants this to end, even if that means Ukraine not joining NATO.When did he say this?
>Every single NATO country, including the chief of NATO, Jens, have repeatedly confirmed that NATO and NATO countries will not get involved, except sanctions and military aid.Of course, it's absolutely delusional to even think a NATO no-flyzone would be instituted. So the question is, why is he even asking for it?
No.552730
imagine electing a populist and expecting them to not be a good doggy for their real masters
No.552731
>>552727If you were in his shoes, what would you do? The country is being invaded, global and domestic opinion is fiercely anti Russian. There seems to be nothing rational about the Russian government's decision to invade so its not clear how an independently sought truce could be achieved without straight up giving away territory to a hostile invader.
I am not pro NATO or EU, but Zelensky is also not a communist. From his position this is the most logical decision.
Fuck me dead, no wonder the left can't make any gains when you are incapable of 'war gaming' the actions of political actors.
No.552733
>>552731Imagime thinking that a Western puppet who had literally been elected on the promise and platform of peace and negotiation, and who broke that promise to instead continue militarization and shelling of separatist regions is behaving in good faith lmao go back to reddit you're either a glowie oe outright dumbass.
No.552734
>>552731Just imagine the reaction if any country that got invaded by the US asked for Russia or China to enforce a no-flyzone. They would be like "look this is why we should carpet bomb them even harder!!"
The arrogance of Euros lmfao. Is this some kind of holy war where Zelensky is protecting the Ukrainian holy land from Russia? Foh
No.552735
>>552733Imagine being so delusional that you try to find ways to justify an imperialist invasion just because they're an enemy of the US. You are everything wrong with the left.
No.552736
he's literally a voice actor, dancer, comedian. even trump has more experience
No.552738
>>552731Let me try giving an answer, then.
You're assuming that Zelensky is literally unaware of the implications of cozying up with NATO in Russia's face, and just thought he was suddenly attacked by Putin for no visible reason. That would make him incredibly naive and blind. We're doing his intelligence a favour by not assuming that.
The other problem is whether winning the war would really be "worth it" in the long run. Of course the Ukrainians make it seem as if the war is going piss easy, by reporting 3000+ Russian deaths (really?) but the cold fact is that this war can fuck over its economy and sending untrained conscripts to fight in a war without training is going to result in a lot of (former) civilian deaths trying to rush at tanks with molotovs. Not to mention the criminals with guns. He might be able to "win" if he gets some kind of outside assistance, but since that isn't coming? He could either surrender knowing that he's screwed, or try to defiantly fight to the bitter end.
The former might save more lives and keep the economy relatively functional, and Russia probably won't need to make much demands, since it'll look benevolent enough that the sanctions might drop. But for some reason, he's choosing the latter even if it seems to be really a matter of time until he gets crushed. The motives are anyone's guess. Maybe the stress got to him and made him a bit crazy. Maybe he knows it might sink his political career or make more political instability when the nationalists get pissed about him cucking out. Maybe he just bought into his own meme of being a hero, like it was some kind of movie war. Maybe he thinks this could be his epic battle which will win Ukraine glory and esteem in the world. But whatever it is, it's not a very good reason, and he's likely to just eat his words in the coming weeks.
No.552740
>>552738Oh, and if I was in Zelensky's shoes? I probably would try not joining NATO if I could.
If I had no choice? I would listen to any of the secret weird shit that NATO told me and expose it while committing suicide on live television.
If I couldn't do that or anything to prevent the war? Take the blame, surrender, save lives, and get kicked out of government while being made a laughingstock for the rest of my life, knowing that in the end I saved lives even if I hurt my citizens' nationalistic egos.
No.552741
Occam's Razor tells us Zelensky is a delusional dumbass and not some grandmaster of military 4D chess.
No.552742
>>552740Zelensky is actually dumb enough to believe the smoke that the west is blowing up his ass, it's a dangerous thing. He thinks if Biden and Boris and so on talk fine words about Ukrainian liberation, that means they aren't just hanging him out to dry. All of Ukraine will suffer.
No.552743
>>552721>The request for a no-flyzone especially is so insanely delusional, does he believe he's in some typa holy war against Russia and Ukraine is like the holy land that he must protect at the cost of a nuclear holocaust for the entire world? I mean, every single western leader seems to be conveying this exact interpretation, so it wouldn't surprise me
No.552745
>>552737I prefer the international Marxist-Leninist consensus to some twitter hot take, thank you very much.
No.552746
>>552739Ah, so now we're Trotskyist imperialists?
Give me one ML party that supports Russia's invasion of Ukraine uncritically.
No.552747
>>552735explaining the material reality is not "justifying" it
>domestic opinion is fiercely anti Russianmeh, not sure its that clear cut, they obviously arent approving of getting invaded, but are they ready to get blown up in an hopeless war for their corrupt warmongering government ? We will see if they turned ukraine into afghanistan in few years.
>>552731>There seems to be nothing rational about the Russian government's decision to invade dont act like a retard who only swallow media propaganda, of course there is
>how an independently sought truce could be achieved without straight up giving away territory to a hostile invader.they could have just applied minsk and kept their territory, now they pushed too far and should recognize the balance of power is so lopsided in russian favor their only sane option for the population is to negotiate. Giving up the independent regions that you will never ever get back and promising neutrality/disarmament seem worth it for peace when you're getting rolfstomped
>Zelensky is also not a communistyes, he's a nato and oligarch puppet, a true lib would at least be concerned about its own citizens and wouldn't close opposition medias and cover up nazis crimes
>From his position this is the most logical decision.not if he truly cares about his citizens and his country
>you are incapable of 'war gaming' the actions of political actors.you're just a moron
No.552748
>>552742is it even possible he is just that much of a retard ?
No.552749
>>552748hes an actor. he the ronald reagan of the ukraine
No.552750
>>552729>So the question is, why is he even asking for it?Probably to make it look like he's doing anything possible to win. It's for domestic consumption most likely.
No.552751
>>552747>explaining the material reality is not "justifying" itReminder of the German term, "Putin understander", someone who thinks Putin is anything other than a mad dog beyond reason is already suspect of treason!
No.552753
>>552721But muh foreign legion of Twitter transhumanists and Reddit faggots will beat the ruskies.
No.552754
>>552753No faggypol, transhumanist s are NOT transhumanists just degenerates
No.552756
>>5527550
Western countries don't commit war crimes. Only le evil non western regimes do.
No.552757
alright, so he won't be tried at the hague.
but, for my arguments with libs, I'd appreciate a list.
I think arming civilians and childrens is a violation of the geneva convention, as is not allowing foreign nationals to leave (as we've seen with africans and indians)
No.552759
>>552731>If you were in his shoes, what would you do?Do a 360 Degree turn and walk away.
No.552761
gepolyps itt not understanding he'd be coup in an instant because Ukrainians themselves want to fight
No.552762
>>552739Imagine being such an ideological, angry obscurantist that you are written off as a meme and take the left backwards. This is not directed at you specifically just the Kremloids of this site.
No.552763
>>552737>implying the imperialist nations of the 19th century all held hegemonyWhat the fuck kind of revisionist garbage is this?
>>552747>dont act like a retard who only swallow media propaganda, of course there isAnd yet you can't provide me one.
<inb4 you list a bunch or irrational reasons and call them otherwise>they could have just applied minsk and kept their territoryAfter they got invaded? Or are you saying they deserved to be invaded? Full fucking retard
>a true lib wouldn't up nazis crimesNaive.
No.552764
Zelensky isn't delusional. He is manipulative. His goal is to get Ukrainians to get killed so he can make his government look like a bigger victim. Everything he has done has been to further endanger Ukrainians and non-Ukrainians in Ukraine, purely to the end of his own PR. He went from a LITERAL joke politician in similar vein to Trump to being an international hero LITERALLY overnight. He is a career entertainer who understands media and PR. He may also be a narcissist/megalomaniac not familiar enough to say. But one of his shows, his most famous role was LITERALLY about his character becoming President of Ukraine so it's possible he always had this kind of aspiration.
Also it must be repeated he is at least a nazi-sympathizer. He knows full well about the nazis and is directly enabling them by allowing them in the armed forces and promoting the hunting of these "saboteurs." In that sense he actually is what liberal democrats in the US were saying Trump was. And now western liberals are cheering for him.
SCRATCH A LIBERAL AND A FASCIST BLEEDS
No.552765
He’s not delusional, he’s a Zionist, that’s just how those people are. His ultimate goal is the destruction of the Russian people, he absolutely knows what he’s doing
No.552769
>>552766post z girl comics
No.552772
Why the fuck are war maps still painting Transinistria in red, as if it's fucking anything?
No.552773
>World Court to Hear Ukraine’s Charges of Genocide Against Russia Next Week
Holodomor 2.0 if official
No.552776
>>552766 yes pls we need more z tank girls
No.552779
>>552771he was talking about the estimated 40-50k Ukrainian soldiers in Mariupol. Those are the hardcore Nazis so surrender is unlikely. That's why people here are waiting for the cellphone videos of dead Nazis to drop
No.552786
>>552782The "Resistance Committee", founded by anarchist organisation RevDia (revolutionary action).
Doc about them from 2019:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ZLpFIsMH8 No.552787
>>552780Анархия-мама сынов своих любит,
Анархия-мама не продаст,
Свинцовым дождём врага приголубит,
Анархия-мама за нас!
No.552788
>>552783>flooding belarus with nazisbad idea
No.552789
>>552785but if they are genuine anarchists then it's based as fuck
No.552790
>>552778well it is kinda messed up to jail protesters, but it's nothing new
No.552791
>>552779What about Kiev? Has the offensive been successful or stalled or is it a siege now?
No.552792
>>552778Can someone explain/translate her signs?
No.552795
>>552792No to war, no to nukes
No.552796
>>552793no, this is azov
>>552780 No.552797
>>552792"I have a small crush on President Zelenskyy"
No.552801
>>552798>>552792She seems to be supporting Ukraine on the basis that it has no nukes.
No.552802
Reminder that “Ukrainians” are a fake ethnic identity invented by the Germans and Poles to justify the occupation and eventual genocide of Russian people via divide and conquer tactics. Anybody who sympathized with the Ukrainian terror state or identifies as such either in nationality or ethnicity is tantamount to them announcing they’re a Nazi, and should be treated as such.
RUSSIA WILL PREVAIL
SOCIALISM WILL PREVAIL
DEATH TO AMERICA
DEATH TO THE NAZIS
No.552803
>>552781what's the flag on the western part of ukraine?what does it represent?
No.552804
Is it true that the separatists group when the war started in 2014 were right wing?
No.552805
>>552765Zionist's ultimate goal is not that you fucking mong. It's to sit their asses in Israel and soak up American gibs to maintain the oil pipeline from Saudi Arabia.
No.552806
>>552799>indiscriminatelyHow do they still have electricity and internet then?
No.552807
>>552799>garagesUkrops again hiding in civilian buildings, eh?
No.552808
>>552804It was a mess, there were rightoids with Saint Nicolas II portraits
No.552809
>>552803Right sector/OUN flag.
No.552811
>>552804part of them sure were, that is, the part that emerged victorious, but not all of them
No.552815
>>552796Seriously is it though? didn't McCain show up ISIS too?
No.552817
>>552775Ok, I have to ask. Who is the artist?
No.552818
>>552791still slowly being encircled. The only real news I noticed today was western media officially reporting that Kharkiv fell
>>552779>40-50k Ukrainian soldiers in Mariupolsomehow missed this tidbit. So close to 100k Ukrop soldiers are encircled or close to it
>>552799Supposedly Russia has been shelling the city for like 20 hours now if the mayor is to be believed
No.552819
green/blue corners of the political compass chart uniting
No.552820
Ghost of Kiev downed 5 more Russian fighters overnight.
'Air superiority' looking good putinoids lol
No.552821
>>552806You can only be assured that they wouldn't have those if they were firing discriminately.
No.552822
>>552816I would bet they are duds ngl, but yeah if you need to threaten everyone around you with death to avoid getting lynched, you are not being greeted as liberators lamo.
No.552823
>Russian soldiers near Mariupol showing off their trophies - Marine & Right Sector flagshttps://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1499149217109094405NOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE MARINE FLAGGERINOOOOSSSS
No.552824
>>552819Neocons and anarkiddies have always been on the same side, against socialism
No.552825
>>552816I am very unclear as to why that video was deleted by the mods. This is some seriously spook shit going on.
No.552826
>>552819RevDia and rightoids were literally attacking each other on the streets of Ukraine before the war has been restarted this year
No.552828
>>552825Hopefully mods finally banned the annoying /k/fag ukropnazi
No.552830
Why have mods removing videos?
No.552831
>>552830It's the ukraine pig dancing song being spammed
No.552833
Apparently after the announcement that Ukrops will not be taking Russian pows, the Russians have airstriked pretty much every MoD/General Staff building in Ukraine lmao
No.552834
>>552831No also some about russian with grenades
No.552835
>>552830It's shay's butthole being spammed
No.552836
>>552833>announce that your military will start comitting war crimes on fucking twitterserves them right
No.552838
>>552834I think that the mods just banned the IP and yeeted all the posts about it. I remember when a ukropfag was samefagging and when a mod yeeted him half hte thread was gone.
No.552839
>>552833why the fuck would they announce this, are they trying to have every single ukranian killed in this conflict?
No.552841
>>552829Video of Russian military delegation telling people to surrender the town or they will destroy it. People all all out yelling at the delegation, even hitting the Russian officer who is holding the hand grenades.
No.552842
>The Parliament of Georgia has prepared a resolution on accelerated accession to the EU.
>Georgia plans to submit the bid to join EU tomorrow (03/02/2022)https://twitter.com/CasusBellii/status/1499056769095634949Its all going so fucking fast.
No.552843
>>552838IP of the pro-Ukranian spammer has already been banned, he is resorting to the TOR node now.
No.552845
>>552841I couldn't see the actual video to verify, wrong format. My hunch is that they were lying
No.552846
>>552843Is it the “potato farmer” fag?
No.552849
>>552843What country was he from?
No.552850
>>552843Was there a second guy responding to his every post?
No.552852
>>552843Just don't mass delete videos for fucks sake. It's like 33% the point of these threads.
No.552853
>>552850yes that was me I was having fun
No.552854
>>552823Based. Where are the nazi bodies though? Still waiting… -_-
No.552856
>>552842but… why? what's the fucking advantage to georgia?
No.552859
Does EU offer some kind of military protection?
No.552862
>>552856I think if they get into the EU they think it will fast track them to NATO membership
No.552863
>>552846yup, spamming Russian surrenders and captured vehicle videos
>>552849haven't bothered checking, probably a VPN anyways. you would not believe the glow-spam we got over the past days, its slowly died down now.
>>552850more than a guy but its hard to sort spammers from just posters shooting the shit so we've mostly left them alone
>>552852we have to curb NATO propaganda to some degree, its already dominating the anglo-net and as an anglo-speaking site we're easily susceptible to it.
No.552864
>>552862even so no way it's worth all the mess it would do to the economy
No.552865
>>552858People are getting bored of the Ukraine war. Time for the next thing!
No.552866
>>552856Since when do people matter to Porkies anon?
>>552857If they manage to get Georgia in the EU they get a MAJOR bridgehead into the Caucasus and Southern Russia which paired with Azerbaijian's militaristic government could set off another Ukraine-like crisis in future.
We are getting from flashpoint to flashpoint.
No.552867
>>552863Based anti-glowie action
No.552868
>>552863>the glow-spamAh, searching for saboteurs.
No.552870
>>552863curious about how many posts from langley
No.552871
>>552843hashtag not all tor users
No.552872
>>552843Thanks you, good job! Keep it up. Make Ukrops seethe
No.552874
>>552861all babushkas look the same
No.552875
>>552863>more than a guy but its hard to sort spammers from just posters shooting the shit so we've mostly left them aloneopening yourself up to
sabotage…
No.552877
Protests in Moscow today. Old working class man man confronting the police.
>You are the future of Russia, but look what they made you? The whole world is laughing at us. The Russian people have been turned into (Bydla) Idiots?. I am a colonel, and I have been turned into an idiot. Don't give up. My father died in 1941 in the war, even the Germans didn't do this, and now we are doing this. Why are you afraid of Navalny? What did he do? Oh he is an agent! (mocking) I was with Putin in 86 in Dresden, he was a captain, spreading propaganda there. I am a military engineer. Don't believe Putin, he is a coward, he is making a fool of you all. Putin is enemy number 1, coward, coward and coward. I am not afraid, My name is Zakharov, (then he starts saying poetry)
No.552878
>>552861The "Here's a woman after Russian airstrike" photo that was circulating.
Holy shit it's 100% her.
No.552879
>>552863>you would not believe the glow-spam we got over the past days, its slowly died down now.Russia already scheduled anti-glowie missile strikes on Ukrop disinfo divisions. Thank god
No.552881
>>552866Why they would want another blodshed like this?
No.552883
>>552880go back kultur-kancer
No.552884
>>552729>reddit spacingprove you are not a saboteur rn
No.552885
>>552731surrender with as much honor as possible and try not to lose the entire black sea coast
also flee to the us or something
No.552886
>>552721He's been take hostage by more fundamentalist elements
No.552887
>>552843You figure all those videos are staged?
No.552888
A Ukrainian comrade has given a statement on how Western comrades may help the situation in Ukraine and also provides insight on what demands western leftists should make with regards to the war without supporting NATO or an escalation of the conflict, please repost and share as much as you can
>"What can you do to help Ukraine? I see this question often in western social media, and as someone who has just left Kyiv, I would like to offer my thoughts.
>I just saw that the head of the WHO called to open up a humanitarian corridor for civilians to leave Kyiv.
>A humanitarian corridor is when both fighting sides agree to allow citizens to leave the city safely along a designated route. It does not involve any military action, unlike a no-fly zone, and is an ordinary procedure in wars.
>The measure is extremely necessary for Kharkiv, Mariupol, Volnovakha, and many other Ukrainian cities and towns going through a humanitarian catastrophe at the moment, where people find it very difficult to leave the cities for safety due to bombing, armed groups, and curfews. Civilians are stuck in unsafe bomb shelters among the rubble of their houses, dying due to bombing, the cold, and are running out of food and medicine.
<I see lots of westerners calling for various military 'solutions' to the conflict, which would not only vastly increase the number of deaths in this conflict but probably only lengthen it.
<It is not worth giving in to patriotic enthusiasm about Ukraine’s chances for military victory – currently, this perception strengthens the hand of Ukrainian nationalists who are virulently opposed to any negotiations with Russia and would prefer to fight to the end, no matter the civilian casualties and annihilation of the country.
<Measures like opening a no-fly zone would even result in a direct confrontation between Russia and NATO, which, as everyone knows, would be a nuclear one.
<Nor are sanctions particularly useful in saving lives, since the economic effects will only be felt over the coming months, which will not affect the bombing campaign in Ukraine over the next weeks and days.
>In this context I would like to urge citizens of rich western countries to call for the construction of humanitarian corridors in Ukraine to save civilian lives. A negotiated compromise to end the war would be the best solution, but unfortunately this currently seems very unlikely to succeed.
>The construction of a humanitarian corridor is entirely possible – politically and militarily –, essentially free, and would merely require pressure by western nations on Ukraine and Russia to agree to allow this. "
No.552889
>>552737What reading negative levels of theory does to a MFer.
No.552890
>>552869Imagine what would happen to Ukrainians saying "Glory to Russia" like this, but in Ukraine.
No.552892
>>813458
Responding to this stupid brain-fried burger from the previous thread.
My point was that I know Ukranians don't think like I do, and I know because I've been seeing social media accounts and I have yet to see find a mass populace that is marxist leninist and has a correct view on the situation. Turns out majority of the population isn't marxist leninist.
Your stupid gotcha is an empty nothing, and you're a burger, so not sure why I even responded tbh.
No.552893
>>552877>if it's a protest it's DA PEOPLE!!1The biggest glowop of recent years.
No.552895
>>552856Libs love the EU cus they can force neolib shit on their people. They also get free gibs
No.552896
>>552881Because imperialism is fucking dog eat dog, and they felt that this is the occasion to push Russia to the wall.
No.552897
>>552889Unironically reading Josh's twitter feed should count as reading theory in itself. What in the world can you dislike about the guy? It's hit after hit from his tweets.
No.552898
This even will destroy whatever remnants of socialism there is in the west. What is to be done about this? How can you look at a pro-nato fag in the eyes and feel trust that he won't backstab you when he gets a chance?
No.552899
>>552731"Ukraine will remain neutral and we'll organize a referendum on Donbass." There, war has ended.
No.552900
>>552744I would say it reminds me of a certain homeless fail artist, but Hitler served in the army. Zelensky was (allegedly) a draft dodger.
No.552901
>>552839when you're getting ass raped on the battlefield the only thing you can do is take that frustration out on the POWs.
No.552902
>>552861 i saw an image on pol that said she was somekind of national official who has been in other photos but i cant find it
No.552903
>>552888Where is the source, brother?
No.552904
>>552744this is not a happy reality
No.552905
>>552877>even the Germans didn't do this,what? this guy sounds like the russian version of some boomer hippy
No.552906
>>552896Yeah but georgia has disputed borders too. They gotta chill a bit. These animals gonna start a ww if they keep going
No.552907
>>552833>>552837Wait, what, source?
No.552908
>>552765Zyuganov, when did you learn English?
No.552912
>>552907i read it too, it's speculative, but the events do coincide
No.552913
BREAKING NEWSROMANIA LOSING AIRCRAFT EVEN THOUGH NOT IN WARA Romanian MiG-21 LanceR fighter jet disappeared from the radar in the southeastern region of Dobrogea late on Wednesday, the country’s Defense Ministry has said. The accident was followed by the crash of an IAR 330 Puma helicopter, dispatched to locate the jet.
The fighter aircraft, which is an Israeli-upgraded version of the iconic 1960s Soviet jet, disappeared some 15 minutes after taking off and heading to patrol the coastal region bordering Ukraine. A search and rescue mission was scrambled, with the helicopter dispatched to find the jet.
The helicopter, however, disappeared some 20 minutes into its mission as well, the military has said. Before the comms were lost, its pilot reported extremely bad weather conditions in the area.
https://www.rt.com/news/551098-romania-jet-helicopter-crash/ No.552915
>>552911There's banfire going on right around me. What'd I miss?
No.552916
>>552842I will take a few years to like a half a decade to get approved.
No.552917
>>552887Not speaking as my official capacity as a mod But I figure that the surrenders especially are often staged - there have been multiple cases of these "POWs" being identified as members of the Ukranian national guard or other nationalist groups. We must not forget that the fascists within Ukraine want to prologue the conflict as much as possible, and so producing the idea of a weak Russia compels young men to fight for them.
However, in regards to the vehicle videos, it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility for Russian soldiers to abandon their vehicles. Tanks and the like break down frequently, especially with continuous operation like in a state of war, and so they will be left behind by their unit to be picked up by the next echelon of advancing forces with fresh logistics (both parts and manpower/engineers) to either fix them up there if its minor or ship them to a FOB if its major.
If these Russians, while sitting around waiting for help, get attacked or feel threatened, it is probably military doctrine to bail the vehicle and retreat back to your closest friendlies. Tanks are replaceable, skilled crew are not.
So Ukranians get these videos of abandoned equipment, but 99% of the time there is nothing they can really do with it, since they likely lack the ability/materials to repair it or the vehicles to tow it, so they are as useless to Ukranians on a military level as they are to Russia. So they film these quick videos before trying to damage the vehicles further and then pull back, to get at least something of a propaganda victory from it. Then the Russians end up making their way to the vehicle, repair it or deem it too borked and salvage it for parts, and move on.
So in reality the vehicle videos don't really amount to much other than being propaganda meant for consumption primarily for Ukranians/Westerners to try and keep the war going as long as possible.
No.552919
>>552865DON'T ASK QUESTIONS
JUST WATCH WAR
AND THEN GET EXCITED
FOR NEXT WAR
No.552921
>>552882<Clip gets cut offIs there more? Who's this? Twitter account?
No.552925
>>552882damn zelensky really fucked up giving those guns
No.552927
>>552924Romania…flying jets and helicopters in near blackout storm conditions. Jesus Christ.
No.552929
>>552890There'd be tweets about how a Russian saboteur was captured and taped to a telephone pole with his pants down
No.552932
>>552913>can't detect bad weather 11 km from aerodromeWhat the fuck are Romanians doing?
No.552933
>>552913is it posadas time
No.552934
>>552913Not like this bros
No.552935
>>552913Are anons making the same posts at the top of every new Ukraine thread? This is not the only repost I've seen.
No.552936
>>552931>Russia shot down Romanian aircraft over Romanian soilX
No.552938
>The Paris Grevin Museum removed the wax figure of Vladimir Putin in protest against his invasion of Ukraine & after it was damaged by visitors over the weekend. >The museum is considering replacing it with a statue of Ukraine President Volodymyr ZelenskyPutler BTFO forever
>>552913>Before the comms were lost, its pilot reported extremely bad weather conditions in the area No.552939
>>552913NATO falseflag to "justify" intervention, which would lead to nuclear war
No.552940
>>813656
fuck off. Obviously people are against the war. This people don't have a political opion, they just why we can"t all chill guys.
But Putin is advancing the dialectics like few people did in history
No.552941
>>552923How much the West will cry over it's volunteers getting wholesomely slaughtered by Chechens?
No.552942
>>552910Goddamn, the autism someone has to be able to make that lmao, the absolute madlad
No.552944
>>552940NO YOU CAN'T ADVANCE THE DIALECTICS MY LEFTISM HAS TO BE A NICHE THING BUT STILL RELATIVELY HARMLESS TO THE SYSTEM.
No.552945
The NATO shill was using the based Posadist babushka as propaganda.
DISGUSTING
We support Posadist Babushka over the russian police 10/10 times, retard.
Lurk more, Mr. Langley.
No.552946
>>813656
People here are already using the same excuses IDF makes. This thread isn't about serious discussion or theory, it is about team sports.
No.552947
>>552941Inversely to how much they decried people volunteering to go fight ISIS.
No.552948
Daily Encirclements recap:
>Mariupol: 4 sides complete, fighting already in progress.
>Kharkov: 2 sides, North and East. Probably South will be donein the next few days.
>Energodar: South East and West.
North of the city there's the Dnepr iirc.
>Mykolaiv: Technically no side has been encircled, but Russian Army is closing on the city from the East, to which most likely North and South will follow.
No.552949
>>552739Didn't this near exact situation in the Falklands war prove the opposite?
No.552950
>>552945No, she's a nuclear dissident.
No.552951
>>552946Settler colonialism is not based.
Invading Nato Puppet is based.
Is pretty black and white.
Nato=bad
Everything that opposes nato=good
Leave nuance for nuanced thing
No.552952
>>552858>pictoo young to be doing acid wtf.
>youtube propagandaI don't know, I was being pushed this video which is actually pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4 No.552954
>>552863It's nice to be on a site with some actual moderation
No.552955
>>552948Reminder many ukranians believe that russians are bloodthirsty and have been massacring unarmed civilians and eating babies.
No.552958
I'm confused, why are so many posts in this thread older than the last one that just got archived, and how is this the new thread?
No.552959
>>552903The Ukraine Comrade doesn't want to be indentified for somewhat obvious reasons, but I can personally vouch for him that he's a real comrade, and this post isn't glowie nonsense
No.552960
>>552956>We will se a character redemption arc with fucking Agent Kochinski.lmao
No.552962
>>552958They merged another thread that was already open
No.552963
Why doesn’t Putler just send a smol drone, take out Zelensky, and get it over with?
Why is he dragging it out?
This war looks fake.
No.552964
>>552958That may be because I merged another Ukraine thread into this one
No.552965
>>552963Zelensky would just be replaced with an insane Azov fascist and the war would continue
No.552966
Is Russia winning
No.552969
>>552956>>813694Kek imagine being so bad at optics that Agent Kochinski, the most prideful man on the internet is having second thoughts.
No.552970
>>813694
kys
No.552972
>>552968>1st pic<No "Have sex with" optionHow disappointing
No.552973
>>552971its ok your good now
No.552975
>>813694
It isn't unlikely he will now simply advocate for war crimes.
No.552978
>>552977Why do you keep spamming?
No.552979
>>552978Just asking for a favour, i'm shit at photoshop
No.552980
>>552977DL: Photoshop
Look up how to use magnetic lasso/opacity mask. You can do it anon. I believe in you.
No.552981
>>552977>Can youno
putin has a black son No.552982
>>552977Do it yourself you fuckng clown
No.552983
>>552956as expected this was the dumbest possible announcement they could have made, even if they were going to kill POWs it'd be better just to do it quietly instead of announcing it like retards
nazis really just don't understand
No.552984
>>552731>There seems to be nothing rational about the Russian government's decision to invade Why do people feel compelled to give their opinion about shit they know nothing about.
Watch this shit, don't post again until you do:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4 No.552985
>>813711
thanks for the (you)s i guess
No.552987
>>552980If you put it this way i'll try
No.552988
>>813711
>(you)
"oh no"
No.552989
>>552983I don't know how people didn't catch on when their national guard tweeted about how Muslims are all orks and they were greasing their bullets in pig fat.
No.552991
>>552761Fat chance, the patriotic Russians held hostage (the majority of the country) are welcoming Russian troops with open arms. It’s only Nazi bandits that keep fighting
No.552992
>>552989Hiding retarded tweets is easy and most westerners hate muzzies.
No.552993
>>552990based free as in freedomfag
No.552994
>>552990It's not free software if you need Youtube to learn how to draw a circle with it
No.552996
>>552991even if they don't welcome russian troops no way the average ukrainian wants to die for some nato bullshit
No.552999
Officialy 500 dead Russians. It's probably more like 4000 dead Russians.
No.553000
>>552997>2nd pic<That moment when you're more hawkish than Agent Kochinski of all peopleBruh
No.553003
>>552997>massacre people and ignore geneva convention>i guess it happens, it's wari'm starting to think that people have become so stupid from US propaganda that they think that everyone conducts war like the US does, with undiscriminated massacres and just general bad faith
No.553005
>>552999It's actually 99999999999999999999
No.553006
>>552999rum so rum sah
1 millioin dead Russkies
rum so rum sah
2 mllion dead russkies
rum so rum sah
No.553007
>>552999no, it's more like the number i want to believe
No.553008
>>553002> trusting the Russian MOD to tell the truthcope
No.553009
>>552996Zelensky and his bankster masters will make sure that they kill as many Russians as possible before they’re overthrown, which is what worries me. These people have no morals or conscience, so anything up to and including a false flag nuclear strike on their own territory is very much a possibility
No.553011
>>552999all the russians are dead, only putin is left
No.553013
>>552999Why would you think the Russians are lying?
No.553014
>>553012Ukranians say 9000 dead Russians. 4000 seems the most likely.
No.553015
>>553009i'm worried about a bunch of crazy nazis just blowing up a nuclear power plant as some sort of tactical decision
No.553016
HOLY SHIT I JUST FOUND A SABOTEUR INSIDE MY HOUSE (HE THINKS HE'S MY "BROTHER")
No.553018
>>553015Same thing, Ukrainian identity is a Nazi invention in the first place. But you know they’ll do it, their pride won’t let them abandon their attempted genocide
No.553019
>>553013Because they lied the whole 2 months leading up to the invasion?
No.553021
>>553018>Ukrainian identity is a Nazi invention in the first placeWhat are you talking about?
No.553022
>>553019Great point. Now for one for one that isn't contemptibly stupid, Russia MoD's clearly has an intentional strategy in this war to release accurate information, and it has.
No.553023
Yuropoor. Last night RT youtube channel was blocked. Now
https://www.rt.com/ is blocked for me too.
Fuck the EU. Fuck them.
No.553024
>tfw not even 4chan nazis want to endorse Ukrop nazis
There's no better vaccine against fascism than seeing one in action
No.553025
>>553003>people have become so stupid from US propaganda that they think that everyone conducts war like the US doesyes, precisely what is happening, and this is why both the general dumbing down of people and the total indoctrination of their remorseless and soulless engagements with the rest of the world constitute an existential threat to humanity
No.553026
>>553023They are doing it for democracy !!!
No.553027
>>553019Point to me one single lie the Russians have said leading up to the intervention. Hysterical bullshit the west claims Russia was saying doesn’t count
No.553028
>>553024really? what's wrong with azov for /pol/acks?
let me guess, they're too "jewish" or something
No.553030
>>553008More trustworthy than anything the West has produced.
No.553031
>>553028basically yes, they were trained by Israel
they are calling them "AZOG"
No.553032
https://old.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/t4ydnt/dont_go_into_russian_stocks/the retards on wallstreetbets is saying that Ruskie stonks are dead and to not buy the dip. My instincts and the common wisdom of "Do the opposite of what wallstreetbets says" is making me think that if you can buy up some stonks.
No.553033
>>553028You are right lol
No.553034
The content the pro-Ukraine spammer spammed was from a twitter account of a Georgian ultra-rightist Ukrop shill account called "TheDeadDistrict". Good that the mods banned him.
No.553038
>>553028well, despite the blonde hair and blue eyes i'm pretty such that ukrainians aren't exactly masterrace material in the nazi cosmology
No.553039
>>553021Ukraine prior to WW1 was considered purely a region of Russia rather than a distinct ethnic group. The state was created as a way of advancing German control in the region, and later for the purpose of furthering genocide against the Russian people. Ukrainian “identity” makes as much sense as claiming the people of Leningrad are a different race from those in Perm
No.553040
>>553036critical support for /pol/-brethren
No.553041
>>553000That actually made me have a shred of respect for Agent Kochinski.
No.553042
>>552997Even Agent Kochinski thinks it's fucked lmao
No.553044
>>553039wasn't lenin in favour of a separate ukrainian republic precisely because of a separate national identity?
No.553045
>>553028they are also total losers and nazis are basically very image conscious people.
No.553046
>>553038Of course not, most of them are just useful idiots that the Atlanticists intend on exterminating as soon as they run out of usefulness
No.553047
>>553044no it was because he was a bolshevik traitor and a german agent, and probably jewish as well XD :-DD
t. putin
No.553048
>>553044Yes, and that was one of Lenin’s few mistakes, likely brought about due to corrupting influences from his time in Germany or perhaps as a favor to the Kaiser, either way it was a mistake that Stalin corrected
No.553049
Goofy ass zelensky drawing.
>>553023What country? VPNing in Germany works well.
I guess democracy freeze peach is only partly killed here.
No.553050
>>552974This dude is genuinely mentally ill
No.553051
>>552923Why are anarchists such retards? Dying for a semi-Nazified state when they could be gathering forces and armaments for the post war situation. They are so terminally fucking stupid it hurts.
No.553052
>>553036>Jew backed NazisIt’s funny because they are right for once.
No.553053
>>553051Anarchists believe in constantly trying to appease liberal sentiments in order for them to get a hook to drive people into their gay ass little co ops and shit.
No.553054
>>553027>Hysterical bullshit the west claims Russia was saying doesn’t count>“We are ready to work further together. We are ready to go down the negotiations track,” Putin told a press conference on Tuesday.You're right, they really slandered him claiming he would ever say a thing like that.
No.553055
>>553051>for the post war situation.The problem is, many people await that the "De-nazification" will be the worst thing, not the invasion.
No.553056
>>553050Southern states do that to you.
Oh and that's just the last three, they did at least 10 int he last fifteen minutes. It's sad and hilarious the side of life you get to witness on imageboards.
Do you ever learn of the tale of ANORECTAL VIOLENCE anon? No.553058
>>552974>pol>argumentheh, good one
No.553060
>>553054They WERE willing to work with them, Zelensky threw that goodwill away by starting a genocide
No.553061
>>552974Year 2 or 3 of that mental cripple coming here. How can someone be so obsessed?
No.553064
>>553048Stalin's famous wonderfully successful resolution of the Ukraine issue. Bet everybody remembers that fondly.
No.553066
>>553060>by starting a genocideDon't devalue this word you retard.
No.553067
>>553051Anarchism is just Nazism without strong borders, it’s a time honored Ukrainian tradition dating back to Makhno
No.553069
>>553066I would say Thebes systematic extermination of the Russian people living in the Ukraine on the behest of Atlanticist interests is indeed a genocide
No.553071
Admit that Putler tragically miscalculated and started a bloodbath
No.553072
>>553064>muh holodohoaxGo back to Reddit liberal
No.553073
>>552977Will this do?
This might sound absolutely fucking bonkers, but this symbol was designed by Putin's right hand man who has worked with him for like 30 years.
The man who whispers in the kings ear.
No.553075
>>553059>Ukrainians fight for freedomSuch an intellectually hollow statement. Burger brainworms at work.
No.553077
>>553059Lmao American are something else.
They really prove that race is all bullshit. Different color, but brain has always the same colour. Brown. Like shit. Hope you motherfuckers get killed
No.553079
>>553073Fascism, boundless and red?
No.553080
>>553062because posting the untranslated image version is useless i guess
No.553081
>>553076if I'm not mistaken those two guys are gypsies, so there's totally no way they were just racially profiled by ukronazis
No.553082
>>553062Iono. Maybe they have an English page as well? Or maybe someone just machine translated it in OCR or something? Here's the Ukrainian page:
https://de-de.facebook.com/usofcomThe post is at the top.
No.553083
I always knew this board was a Russian historical cosplay society made up of former /pol/ refugees.
No.553084
>>553076I'm guessing this is pride but my first thought is that it was a prank, they see two guys kissing and just tape them together
No.553085
>>553043Everyone always criticizes Israel for arming Nazis, but it's one of the quickest ways to evaporate any long term right wing support for them.
Thank you Comrade Israel.
No.553087
>>553060They were lining on the border preparing to invade when Putin said that. Then they invaded. It seems a bit dishonest to call it "negotiating" when it's with the army of a much bigger country who have their guns trained on you, let alone when they are already shooting at you. Imagine negotiating with someone like that over a labor contract.
No.553088
>>552763Are you new? Imperialism (the Leninist version) did NOT exist in the 19th century. It's a stage of capitalism that developed in the 20th century. Marx did not know what imperialism was.
No.553089
>>552999I would rather believe russians than ukrops tbh, ukraine has been an absolute liar since the beginning, not even trump would lie this much, they really went off the charts this time, but I guess that's what happens when you are as desperate as them, the nazis did the same.
No.553090
>>553086It's a nothingburger. Everyone will forget about this in a week.
No.553091
>>553083kek that is reddit.
No.553096
>>553086List of leftypol approved nothingburgers:
Coronavirus
Ukraine War
[This list is incomplete, you can help by expanding it] No.553097
>>553086Fizzlegang made a formal apology, that the board has since accepted. It's unfortunate that you weren't there to see it.
No.553098
>>553088i mean it started at the very tail end of the 19th century, but you're right
No.553101
>>553086There is no war, there is a special denazification operation
No.553102
>>553035That guide does not tell you how to draw a circle. There is another thing there related to circles but that isn't it. The inadequacy of the guide cannot be overstated.
No.553103
>>553059>Will I have a problem in Ukraine as a POC>I was planning to book my flight but then found out there actually are a lot of racists thereWEW
>>553086We were outplayed by Putin. He has the crafty mind of an Eastern despot, you see.
No.553105
>>553092A lot of people ITT unironically believe the same lmao
>NOOOO WE SHOULD STOP THIS CAPITALIST WAR AAAA TURN IT INTO A CLASS WAAAR AAAAA MY CENTRISM No.553106
>>553092Wait so. Hold on. Is he mocking the "war crimes are bad" people or saying he is one of those people?
No.553107
>>553086There's going to be a nuclear war soon
No.553108
>>553055The invasion is lost, there's no functional difference between a Nazi militia and anarchist militia fighting to preserve a dying NATO puppet.
No.553109
>>553104HOI4anons please advise
>>553107kys id user
No.553111
>>553087They were lining the border to intimidate the USA into giving up building NATO bases and giving Ukraine nukes, which worked. Furious, Zelensky took his rage out on the Russian people trapped within his bandit kingdom, jumping the gun much to the ire of his puppet masters. Was Russia simply to sit back and watch their kith and kin slaughtered by chemical weapons and artillery fire?
No.553112
>>553104i_know_some_of_thessse_words.bmp
No.553115
>>553092Shred of respect to this dude due to admitting that his le heckin based ukrainos are bad guys: gone
No.553117
>>553086the self crit already happened, prepare for nuclear annihilation just in case, but most likely ukraine will surrender/be crushed in a few weeks.
No.553118
>>553114Nah, old tripfag new name.
Still a whore.
No.553119
>>553099The Ukrainian famine was an early attempt at the holocaust by German agents, it’s failure is what prompted world war 2
No.553120
>>553064Cruel? maybe but necessary
No.553123
> the holodomor was justified
> Ukranians are subhumans
> The invasion is justified
> annexation of territory is justified
> The Ukranian people historically never existed
It's no surprise they turn to hardcore nationalism after shit like this
No.553124
>>553123I expect a minor rise in anti-Russian sentiment in the next years
No.553126
if America was being invaded and it;'s territory was annexed I wonder how many American nazis that would produce
No.553127
>>553123>it's your fault I'm a reactionaryintellectual laziness of the highest degree
No.553130
>>553127Russians are the ones who are reactionary
No.553131
>>552746Nobody is suggesting support Russia invading Ukraine uncritically. Why are you talking about opinions of whether things that have already happened and will continue to happen, should have happened or not? We can all find things in history and decide if we wanted them to happen or not. No, the discussion is for the future: who will win the existing conflict? Clearly Russia needs to, to deliver a blow against NATO which Ukraine is aligned with.
No.553132
>>553092Wow did one little facebook screenshot turn Agent Kochinski into a both sides are bad guy? After literally cheering on war and death like a ghoul this entire time?
No.553133
>>553123>>the holodomor was justifiedglowing hard
No.553134
>>553059What's wrong with these people that they don't see a problem with preventing civilians in general, fleeing from a war zone ?
No.553136
>>553128Hahahahahahhahaha
No.553137
>>553125Why was he trying to get in anyway lmao
No.553138
>>553079Kek now this is an obscure reference
No.553139
>>553123>just don't adopt a fake national identity invented solely to justify the ethnic cleansing of russians and other ethnic minoritiesis it that hard?
No.553141
>>553131I support Russian invaing Ukraine, they are the same people, they should have the same country
No.553142
>>553137The Russian army ran out of food, gas, and techno.
No.553144
here's my tinfoil hat theory. china has strong ties with both russia and ukraine. xi and putin both hate ukranian nationalists that the west has installed. Together, they CONSPIRE for Russia to respond with military action. China steps up and becomes the 'neutral' mediator for the crisis. This humiliates the west and america slowly loses its diplomatic power. Both Economically and militarily the sino-russo alliance will win.
No.553145
>>553125I like how he stops for a second to think "Why this shit ain't opening fuck this".
No.553146
>>553129The spice must flow
No.553149
>>553142Most importantly, Russian Army ran out of Russian Army. Only Juche Necromancy lets it keep on going.
No.553150
>>553059Middle guy is a genius, respect. It's totally fine for white guys to fly to asia explicitly to fuck asian women, but it's not okay for a black man to go to Ukraine to bang grateful blond chicks? double standard. I support this merc.
No.553151
>>553130Anyone whose political ideology has become hardcore nationalism in reaction to the dismissal of their national identity is a reactionary, whether they are Russian or otherwise.
No.553152
>>553141>>553131also modern boarders look like shit
No.553153
>>553125LMFAO! Jesus Christ Ivan.
No.553154
>>553138I just remember seeing this logo when I was trying to understand duginoids
http://samlib.ru/c/cushero/dugine_nazbol.shtml No.553156
>>553150>It's totally fine for white guys to fly to asia explicitly to fuck asian womenit's not, actually
you must be american
No.553159
>>553137You can see he is in the middle of a firefight, a rather poor one considering that he is alone, not taking any meaningful cover, standing the open. Probably trying to get inside so he doesn't get shot.
No.553160
>>553141Future generations will remember the idea of the nation state not as a passed curiosity of history, but as a disease that humanity cured itself from.
No.553165
>>553139>fake national identity>has existed as a nation for longer than the people fighting have been alive>probably longer than anyone posting has been aliveLmao imagine recognizing the nation you were born in and which everybody except Russia, a nation your own nation actively rejected, recognizes. Don't they know I read about them and I think that their claim to a nationstate is dubious? Don't those stupid Ukrainian fascists know they're ethnically identical to Russians, and so they should join the Russian state since I, "a communist," recognize the state but only as it corresponds to ethnicity?
No.553168
>>553129This is many days old.
No.553169
>>553144unironically might happen
No.553170
>>553162After Russia takes over the ground is going to vanish from beneath Ukraine and the people are going to hover for a bit until they look down, hold up a sign that says "Yikes!" and plummet
No.553171
>>553166tell that to Zapatistas, big brain
No.553173
>>553171They are weird, albeit successful.
No.553174
>>553162Damn, that's some spooky shit.
No.553175
The only thing I'm actually impressed about Khokhol war effort is that they manage to make centralized propaganda effort despite everything but twitter and phones getting blown to smithereens
No.553177
>>813950
For anarchists grabbing guns in the town square to fight the Russian military, your statement is closer to the truth than you realize.
No.553178
>>813942
if this is true it's much better as propaganda for the ukrainians than fucking deciding to murder all POWs
No.553179
>>553170go check the state of anarchists in Russia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_(Russia)Western Westerners on this board do not understand one simple thing:
every country close to Russia fucking hates Russia, aside from Belarus and Turkmenistan there's no more authoritarian shithole on the ex-Soviet space
I think if gringos were rolling into Mexico, you'd all be like "nooo, let the US capture you"
t. Russian
No.553180
>>553178>than fucking deciding to murder all POWsDid these retards delete this post?
No.553181
>>553178Well the issue is that some Ukranian defenders are psychotic fascists. It would be good if Ukraine could remove them.
No.553182
>>553135this is a lame duck against any jet fighter ever made.
This drone has never been used against an opponent that had an air-force.
No.553183
>>553179> the organization itself had never existedPeak anarchism
No.553184
>>553180No, the kind propaganda came earlier than the rabid twitter post.
No.553186
>>553181they wouldn't be so numerous in the first place if Russia weren't a threat and did not annex their territories in 2014
>>553183exactly, you don't even have to be a real anarchist to get 10+ years in prison
No.553187
>>813966
So if they're so shit why are they winning?
No.553189
>>553188imagine rooting for a capitalist country that does this just because libs is against it this time
No.553190
>>813962
But then you wouldn't know what's real and what's fake.
Shitposting on some tannu tuvan throat singing forum is the closest Ukraine has come close to defeating Russia.
No.553191
CNN headline: "slow annihilation of Ukrainian forces"
No.553192
>>553186not having an organization is as legitimately anarchist as it gets
No.553194
>>553165One nation is an actual civilization state that’s the center of Eurasian culture and has existed in some form or another for thousands of years. The other is a Nazi bandit territory occupying the former’s western reaches and was inventive whole cloth around 100 years ago by the Germans and Poles to divide Russia, complete with a synthetic language that is nearly identical to Russian
No.553195
>>553182The problem is radar detection in the AO. You can only launch so many sorties in so many locations. It might have been wise for Russia to attempt to capture and control Ukrainians radar systems to use themselves, instead of destroying them.
In a convoy you don't necessarily have to hit every vehicle. target the important stuff. Officer vehicles, communication's vehicles, AA vehicles, fuel, food.
No.553196
Russian communists, the ones who are not controlled opposition, better be getting prepared in the middle of all this. Please tell me they are.
No.553199
>>553186>they wouldn't be so numerous in the first place if Russia weren't a threat and did not annex their territories in 2014The precipitating event was the not entirely democratic removal of a pro-Russian government in Ukraine.
No.553200
>>813982
>war wouldn't happen if an oppressed minority just let itself be oppressed
Damn, do you figure they went to uni for those kinds of insights?
No.553202
>>553154Yeah it's why you should be wary of murmurings of USSR 2 from above, because you're going to get boundless and red fascism.
No.553203
>>553185>knight of lvivdamn i sound like an azov larper
No.553204
>>813982
Why was this post deleted?
No.553205
>>553191Indeed. Butlin basically signaled this narrative change in the SOTU when he was saying something like "even if Kyiv is crushed, you cannot crush the spirit of Ukranians who yearn for freedom" yadda yadda you get it
No.553207
>>553204I made that post, and deleted it and reposted it b/c it didn't >> link back to the original post.
No.553208
>>553196i'd imagine there is a limit to how much they can do (i'm remembering rosa and liebknecht thrown into jail for opposing ww1)
No.553209
>>553186>they wouldn't be so numerous in the first place if Russia weren't a threat and did not annex their territories in 2014if you don't want problems with your neighbor don't do a reactionary coup, wage a genocidal civil war against your own people that support your neighbor, and don't make your country a puppet of a murderous superpower and military alliance whose main aim is to destroy your neighbor.
No.553211
>>553179russianon, how is domestic opinion about the war in an anecdotal sense? like the people around you (family, friends, coworkers, etc.), what do they think about it?
No.553212
>>553211Mention economic strata, btw.
No.553213
>>813966
Anything that hurts NATO is good.
PS: Ukraine is far worse than Russia in every single metric and is being exploited by the West into selling off all of its state assets, which will make it even poorer.
No.553218
>>553214Where's that one dude that wants to give his cheese to Putin? Did he ever manage it?
No.553219
>>553193> 44 millions of Ukrainians defending their homeland< <1k rabid Nazis participating in thisoh well, now I have to side with Putin
No.553220
>>553215looks like the dolphins and the aliens will stay underground for now
No.553221
>>552737>Russia can't become imperialist because they weren't imperialist in the past Braindead take.
No.553222
>>553217a 19th century barricade in paris would provide more protection
No.553223
>>813966
>Big think.
Small think.
Small brain.
NATO being a military opponent doesn't magically preclude commerce. NATO aggression is also largely one-sided.
Kill yourself.
No.553225
>>813942This guy is an ukraine shill. He uncritically reposts all the propaganda.
https://nitter.kavin.rocks/mjluxmooreThis is his article trying to whitewash the 18-60 draft decree as le inclusive people's army.
If War With Russia Comes, Ukrainian Women Will Be on the Front Lines<Ukraine’s military overhaul since 2014 includes embracing women in combat roles. Women now make up some 15% of the armed forces. https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-war-with-russia-comes-ukrainian-women-will-be-on-the-front-lines-11645113866
>[..]Their number could soon grow. In December, Kyiv issued a decree requiring able-bodied women working in a range of professions and between the ages of 18 and 60 to register for the draft and be ready for mobilization if full-scale war were to erupt.By the way is that a Right Sector insignia?
No.553226
>>553216Retards fighting a pointless war.
"HOLDING OUT! SO BRAVE!"
for what……..
No.553229
>>553214That's basically just a scam to dupe people into giving you money. Wikipedia itself says the founder has criminal history. Same shit exists everywhere, even in the "enlightened" west (magic healers, etc.). It's only more prevalent in poorer countries because people get more creative with how to make money.
No.553230
>>553199>The precipitating event was the not entirely democratic removal of a pro-Russian government in Ukraine.wow, I wonder why, maybe because the country was tired of a Russian puppet?
>>553206well, then you see that obviously it's easier to be an anarchist in an anti-communist Ukraine than in FSB-controlled Russia
it makes sense for an anarchist to defend Ukraine from becoming a Russian puppet with an authoritarian security apparatus
No.553232
>>553219>oh well, their number is small!Damn, I guess I love persecuting Russian-speaking
majority in Ukraine now.
No.553233
>>553217Ukrop fortifications. It's just
sand at this point
No.553234
>>553220Dolphins are such assholes. Too much like humans if they were fish. They'll just fuck it up the same way. If we're picking winners, we should end em all when we go, and let the Octopodes take over. Those guys seem like they are slightly more chill.
No.553236
Man, i was hardcore for Denazification, but idk at this point. I thought this war would weaken NATO or escalate us to nuclear territory. I was wrong. It's just a pointless invasion.
No.553237
>>553219Dude, look HOW they are defending their homeland
>>553217 >>553228When the PEOPLE resist an aggressor, they produce GENIUSES who LEAD THE PEOPLE. There's plenty of examples of military minds getting born out of people's struggle. This… this is just not it.
No.553239
>>553236not sure if it's pointless, but it does seem to have a very high cost for all parties, far more than either side would gain from having or not having ukraine in nato
No.553240
>>553211I'm an emigrant, just blocked my mom today because she's a TV brain
most young Russians are against the war, tech people are packing the bags and emigrating in less than a week, but Russia is a boomer country, so…
No.553242
>>553217It was always sad. They should have let civilians go in peace and let the psycho nazis get killed in this pointless war.
>>814003Ukranians are posting this as a big win on social media.
"lol techno house door 1, russian soldier 0"
>>553179>I think if gringos were rolling into Mexico, you'd all be like "nooo, let the US capture you"I'm Mexican and I would 100% be doing exactly that, idiot.
If you're not Mexican why even fight in a pointless war?
Americans would probably flatten Mexico before invading though. But literally why put any resistance, please explain your reasoning.
No.553243
>>553237They defend their homeland by tying people to posts and lynching one another for being saboteurs
No.553245
>>553240>blocked my momso brave
No.553246
>>553112>>553104In case you guys dont know military jargon, this map appears to show that the Ukrops are intending to attack a battalion sized force using a company sized force. Idk how these formations break down in the Ukrop army, but in most NATO armies they average around 1:3, that is to say there are usually around 3 companies in a battalion. Conventional military wisdom dictates that assaults should be made with at least a 3:1 numerical advantage, in which case the Ukrops appear to be doing the exact opposite here.
No.553247
>>553240i thought you might not be in russia after i asked the question, but thanks anyway
does this mean that young people are generally anti-putin or at least not pro-putin?
No.553248
>>553240>Tech peopleСловом либерахи удирают оттуда
No.553249
>>553165>Russia, a nation your own nation actively rejectedyes, if by "rejected" you mean became subject to an american-backed coup d'etat. those who rejected this coup were butchered, repressed and bombed for 8 years.
>Don't those stupid Ukrainian fascistsyes, when the lynchpin of your national identity is rehabilitating nazi collaborators then you are a fascist. maybe you wouldn't have this war if one of the first things the junta did in 2014 wasn't promising to end the official status of russian as a regional language, which they have made good on and more.
>and so they should join the Russian statenot even putin intends to end ukrainian statehood and annex the country wholesale, what will happen (and what was supposed to happen in 2015) is that ukraine will be devolved into a federation with autonomous territorial units for its ethnic russian minority (and hopefully other minorities too). ukraine is fucking massive both in size and population so yes, it makes far more sense for it to be a decentralized federation than a monolith controlled by rabid ethnonationalists hell bent on forcing everyone to adopt their bullshit identity.
No.553250
>>553242>why put any resistance, please explain your reasoningno, I agree, I would run away, but I can understand people not wanting to live under an *actual* fascist state that also is racist to them (Ukrainians are "lesser Russians" in the eyes of Russians)
No.553251
>>553236The U.S. Federal Reserve was warning the Biden admin to not pull SWIFT on Russia. I suspect this will cause more long term damage to the U.S. dollar than people realize and hasten an end to U.S. hegemony. This is probably going to damage Europe in the long run very severely economically.
No.553254
>>553228Its a basic foxhole what do you expect? Full trench system eveytime they change position?
No.553255
>>553224guess it's good praxis to put the articles through archive.is before sharing here
No.553256
>>553244>Russia's Vietnamthat's neither good for Russia nor Ukraine anon…
No.553257
>>553240Damn, I'm an emigrant, too. But I don't speak for "most young Ukrainians", because I'm not a dipshit.
No.553258
>>553247at least "not pro-Putin"
>>553248в айти полно либертарианцев и консерв, работать невозможно будет
>>553245not listening to the war justification from a boomer who can't stop consuming TV propaganda
will unblock her in 1-2 months when Ukraine wins and Russian economy crashes
No.553260
>>553259man pokemon r34 always weirds me out
No.553263
>>553258>not listening to the war justification from a boomer who can't stop consuming TV propagandaSome Russians try to convince actual Ukrainians living under bombings that it is Ukrainian army shelling Kharkov. It is actually quite sad.
No.553264
>>553258>When Ukraine wins Stop shitposting
No.553265
>>553235That's a lot of very expensive slow moving bird to dedicate over that hot of an AO. Place is making Iraq and Afghanistan look like a vacation in comparison. Mighty big chess piece to risk.
From what I have seen massive numbers of choppers and jets have been taken out. Would you take the risk of ALL Ukrainian AA assets being neutralized through the entire country after the crazy videos you have seen? Or some Euro nation "donating" a piece of heavy AA equipment to them?
What is to say that stealth aircraft are not making incursions into Ukraine? What is to say they are not firing across the border areas into Ukraine? The borders are not secure from multiple directions.
Once Belarus and the Chechen's committed, the rules of war changed dramatically.
Once the tactical genius Alexander Lukashenko tipped his hand with a giant tactical map of movements and goals, things can change rapidly.
Good fences make good neighbors.
No.553266
>>553240>i blocked my mom because she disagreed with mewhat living in the west for 10 seconds does to a mf
No.553269
>>553104>>553246It has to be a delaying action meant to allow for some other forces to retreat, not even Ukrainians are this retarded
No.553272
>>553217tbf you cant improvise modern fortifications, it just gonna get blown up, it just need to block armored vehicle advance
No.553274
>>5532661) I'm not in the "West"
2) my patience has its limits, I've been listening to her political BS for over a decade, so justifying invasions and shelling can stay muted
No.553275
>>553270The weak should fear the strong.
No.553279
>>553250I can understand them too, but it is peak retardation. Dying pointless deaths.
Similarly, in Ukraine, there's massacres happening, everyone sleeps.
In Mexico, there's massacres happening, everyone sleeps.
Journalists getting killed. Nobody gives a fuck.
Anyways, regardless if people are retarded or not, this is a pointless battle and the Ukranian government is partly responsible for the slaughter of civilians.
No.553280
>>553185Eagle of Odessa
So I'm an Indian pimp?
No.553281
>>553271He lost a bet about the invasion
>>553261He's a former MP and have a political party
No.553282
>>553241That article is out of date tbh as Russia has definitively proved itself to be a military threat to neighboring countries
No.553283
>>553228>Ukrops can't into digging trenches, What exactly to your mind is wrong with this hole?
No.553284
>>552956Agent Kochinski knowing that these guys may be turning into something quite vile, and seems to be looking for an out
No.553285
>>553219Ukrainian identity as a whole is Nazism
No.553286
>>553274It’s certainly stupid to invade when they should have just helped the DNR/LNR capture all the claimed territory.
No.553287
>>553275Literal fascist slogan
No.553291
>>553286that's what everyone expected – "get your stupid South Ossetia and leave", even CPRF members who voted for the recognition of the republics repented and said they were cheated
and that's why there's such an outcry in Russia despite being suppressed: one thing is defending some small guys and another is a full-scale war
>>553285any nationalism is a step away from Nazism, Ukrainian nationalists are no worse than Russian ones
No.553292
>>553287"The Right Side of History"
No.553293
>>813966
You should be shot for desertion, those people in prison got off easy. To betray your nation is a crime greater than any other(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
No.553294
>>553259Why did you make post this, you fucking loser.
No.553295
>>553259milesdf's 'fur' always looked like painted skin to me
No.553296
>>553274Where are you then?
No.553297
>>553291Wrong, Russian nationalism is what’s driving this denazification in the first place, the mere Ukrainian “identity” is not nationalism but an attempt at genocide
No.553298
>>552967At this stage of the war there are likely thousands of thousands of MIAs and nobody knows if they are dead.
No.553299
>>553219>side withI doubt any anon is enlisted in the conflict
we hate nato, we have the interest of the ukrainian people (and the prole affected by sanction worldwide) in mind, and the best outcome now that it is war is quick surrender
fuck nationalist pride wanting to die for a corrupt government of oligarchs selling out to the west and causing the situation, even if I don't condone russia aggression i kinda understand the "pro putin" shitposters
also, the propaganda war is making everyone especially contrarian
No.553300
>>553270seems post-ironic against both sides
No.553301
>>553297Please tell me you are trolling
No.553302
>>553291>>553286I fucking hate this 21st century pretending that balance of power politics doesn't exist.
No.553304
>>813966
>the richest oligarch on planet earth
Bezos?
No.553305
>>553299I don’t, I have sympathy for the Russians who have had their culture stripped from them and forced to identify as Ukrainian, but those who deserted their nation by choice should die horribly
No.553306
>>553301I’m not, there’s a reason why the concept of an independent Ukraine wasn’t a thing until the Germans came around
No.553307
Kochinski's backed himself into an awkward corner by being a NATO shill (not particular compatible with anarcho-libertarianism or whatever the fuck he is) now that NATO is obviously not doing shit.
No.553308
>>552974>/pol/>being epic debatebrosThis place has a lot , and i mean
a lot, of work and improvements to do, but this is just comically false.
No.553309
>>813966
Can you perceive if any world where countries like Russia could get better when Nato’s around and is as big as it is?
The trade union struggle and workers’ movements should be supported in Russia, but on the international stage in a conflict between those two groups? I support Russia over Nato
No.553311
>>553286But then what? The west, NATO, who are the aggressor enacts exactly the same sanctions as today, exactly the same propaganda storm and they get to keep Ukraine too.
So war may not be popular but defending the republics gets Russia nothing but the same punishment and a guarantee for more.
No.553312
>>553297> Russian nationalism is what’s driving this denazification in the first placeда иди нахуй со своими фантазиями в делирии, Russian nationalism is the exactly same thing, it's just absorbing like the Han nationalism while the Ukrainian one is a regional kind
modern Russia is based on fascist ideas and Putin's favorite thinker is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Ilyin>>553296I won't triangulate myself because there are fewer than 5-7k Russians here, but it's not the imperial core
No.553314
>>553230>maybe because the country was tired of a Russian puppet?and maybe because nazi like azov armed by the cia escalated things by shooting at both police and protesters and eventually changed the state, which was explicitly chosen by US administration ?
>Russian puppet with an authoritarian security apparatuslmao you believe ukraine is a "true democracy" ? journalists killed, oppositions media forbidden, corruption everywhere and big problems of nazi violence getting used by the state ?
No.553315
>>553256Vietnam is the reason the global economy is so fucked up right now.
Between the space race with the Soviets, and the Vietnam war, America went bankrupt.
At the time the U.S. dollar had been selected by many countries of the world to be the worlds reserve currency (Breton Woods conference after WW2).
France figured out the U.S. started to print more greenbacks than they had gold/silver stored in vaults and demanded all of Frances gold be returned back to France and went on T.V. to explain what was happening.
Shortly after Nixon took the U.S. dollar off the gold/silver reserve standard backing system. many other nations followed suit.
Now, nearly every currency on Earth is FIAT and unbacked.
Gaddafi tried to make a gold backed Middle Eastern currency, he got Tupaced.
Saddam tried to make one.
Seeing how quick the Ruble is turning into ruble, this is going to be the shortest Vietnam war in History.
Russia is going to have to start paying back bank loans by selling off military equipment to China, but seeing as how shit it is against Javelins, who is buying?
I cant imagine any nation on earth desiring to buy tanks from any military after seeing how strong the javelin missile system is. The Wage cages welded to the tops have done nothing to stop it.
In fact, the Ukrainian potato farmers are so untrained they are using it in the wrong firing mode and are just shooting it straight into the sides of the tanks, but its still defeating the reactive explosive armor.
My guess is this is why the Marine Core announced they are getting rid of all their tank platoons.
No.553317
>>553305>I don’t, I have sympathy for the Russians who have had their culture stripped from them and forced to identify as Ukrainian, but those who deserted their nation by choice should die horriblythe same shit again?
"Ukrainian" is a real ethnicity, moron, Lenin supported it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainization No.553318
mods when you ban this guy pretending to be russian can you tell where he's from
No.553319
>>553302>>553311>>553312No one should like Putin or his government, but again I will say that I don’t think Russia can change for the better when NATO’s still around.
No.553320
>>553312>modern Russia is based on fascist ideas and Putin's favorite thinker is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_IlyinPure idealism
No.553321
>>553318There’s plenty of Russian diaspora in the near abroad and central asian republics
No.553322
>>553314no, I don't believe that, but Ukraine is still freer than Russia or Belarus
> and maybe because nazi like azov armed by the cia escalated things by shooting at both police and protesters and eventually changed the state, which was explicitly chosen by US administration ?whatever happened, the Maidan was a grassroots movement
(read anon's reply b4 you report, he isn't shilling for euromaidan) No.553323
>>553318My guess currently (not a mod) is that he emigrated to one of the NATOcucked eastern-EU countries, like the Baltics or some shit.
No.553324
>>553293In a just world you would be shot for being a reactionary.
No.553325
>>553320Ivan Ilyin’s a thing
>>553322Ты че, ебанут?
No.553326
>>553322I fucking hate liberals like you so much.
No.553328
>>553326If you’re the Ukrainanon, I got a question: how well do you guys understand russian? I speak russian and a little polish and ukrainian’s like something in between so I can understand the written language at least
No.553329
>>553328By having Russian-speaking family members.
In Crimea.
No.553330
>>553317Here's what I don't get. Isn't Lenin still so revered in Russia that his open visible body tomb is available for the public to come and view?
And Putin is saying Lenin was a stupid Scrub who screwed up and Putin is going to fix it?
No.553331
>>553283More places to hide, the ability to move around the trench to have the ability to shoot from multiple position, trench actually being deep enough to save you from bullets
No.553332
I was planning to move to Ukraine (got reliable information on how Russian-speakers are treated in Western Ukraine, because language is important to me), because Russia was becoming a dystopian shithole with every day and I didn't see prospects for resistance. Probably I'll need to stand my ground right here now.
No.553333
>>553318cope
>>553323no, I'm not in Europe or any Anglo country
No.553334
>>814003
Is this real or the next phase of the propaganda campaign? Russian soldiers breaking into small shops.
No.553337
>>553302yeah all this shit about nazis ands ethnies and history is just justification and context mostly, the core of the issue is geopolitics
No.553338
>>553333Well you got anglo-brained some way. I'm guessing India or Singapore where you work with Anglo sexpats all day until you were mindbroke by them
No.553339
>>553338sigh, no, it's not English-speaking and people here despise the US
stop trying to diagnose me please and let's get back on topic
No.553341
>>553334Did you even watch the video Ivan? Or has the internet been cut off so much in your now third world shithole that you cant spare enough bandwidth to watch it? Hes in the middle of a fucking firefight putting round downrange.
No.553342
>>553319It can, it just needs a strong leftist party that is rabidly anti-west and patriotic. It should not attack Putin directly so much but brand itself as a social upgrade. This could get the support of both Putin loyalists who don't want another Yeltsin and some anti-Putin sections - even urban liberals, who would see this as lesser evil for them, anti-Putin people are desperate anyway. I'm pulling all of this out of my ass of course.
No.553344
>>814159
no posadas yet
No.553345
>>553342>It can, it just needs a strong leftist party that is rabidly anti-west and patriotic. It should not attack Putin directly so much but brand itself as a social upgrade.Basically the Communist Party?
>even urban liberals, who would see this as lesser evil for themYep, Navalnites did support CPRF in 2021 elections.
>>814159Khersson was taken by Russia.
No.553346
>>553322>the Maidan was a grassroots movementthere was a grassroot part, but it got helped massively, and it's not the one that got the power
No.553347
>>553256>>Russia's VietnamAlready happened.
<For many American policymakers, the objective [of the Soviet-Afghan War] became to give the Soviets “their Vietnam War,” to quote the US National Security Advisor at the time.The blackest reaction is upon us.
No.553348
>>814165
It's from the Ukrainians now though so it probably happened yesterday
No.553350
>>553343Thanks friend :) Sorry I got so emotional last night.
No.553351
>>553343Cool song. When was it published?
No.553352
>>553346agree completely on that, it's a failed revolution due to the lack of any kind of organized leftist force, let alone worker movement
No.553353
>>553332gl for soviet revolution 2
No.553355
>>553351As a Doctor Who fan, that music is a remix of the song "Doomsday"
No.553356
>>553354That's that school shooter who like many of them were pumped full of psychotropic meds.
No.553357
>>553338>>553321>>553323I think he's legit, I see no obvious lie in their post history… Reminder being from a country doesn't make you have good (or bad) opinions.
No.553358
>>553354damn nazi foreign legion, how much propagandabrained you have to be to do something like that
also
>joining an army that is clearly doomed both tactically and strategically No.553360
>>553265>That's a lot of very expensive slow moving birdIt's radar out-ranges every other radar system and the range of every AA system. It can detect if an active radar gets switched on. The Russians have a integrated combat network system that can relay target coordinates to artillery, jets and attack helicopters. Stealth-technology is not invisibility it just lowers the radar signature, but that will not work against such a big radar. Going after this bird is very risky.
>From what I have seen massive numbers of choppers and jets have been taken outand how much of that is genuine information ?
>Once Belarus and the Chechen's committed, the rules of war changed dramatically.A direct confrontation between Nato and Russian forces is unlikely
>Once the tactical genius Alexander Lukashenko tipped his hand with a giant tactical map of movements and goalsi thought that was intentional
No.553361
create new thread boys
No.553362
>>553358>naziAnarchists are nazis too? This meme has got too far tbh everything is nazi for you
No.553365
Make new thread
No.553366
>>553343fraternal soviets
No.553367
>>553354gringo twinks killed for nothing.
Sad…
>>553355damn, no way I'd recognize it. Seems the video was published close to 2014.
>>553358meme-tier shit. Literally "storm the capital", "storm area 51", "buy GME", etc. Once the hive mind gets going, the intense ones will go above and beyond.
No.553368
>>553362You have ta go back.
No.553369
>>553367>damn, no way I'd recognize it.No worries m8, can't exactly find the remix myself either, with or without the lyrics
No.553370
>>553366Thank you Gorbachev. There is instability and chaos but at least there is Pizza Hut!
No.553375
>>553373> Big bad country invades small and media is cheering the smol oneRemember that there were people who have volunteered to go to Iraq to be "living shilds" that should somehow stop the war
No.553376
>>553373It's like joining The Avengers, why wouldn't you? Do you not like to have fun?
No.553377
>>553376Well, it is basically becoming an hero, I'll give you that.
No.553378
>>553375Personally, I don't think enough Redditors are signing up to be "living shields" fast enough. Seeing inexperienced overweight Reddit infantry being used as cannon fodder will be a sight to behold.
No.553379
https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1499019014433087492imagine if the ukrops had spent half as much time fighitng the war as they spent trying to look like they were winning
No.553380
>>814209
Spanish interbrigades were mostly a PR effort too.
No.553383
Good fresh content to dump, but I am not wasting it in this old used up 35 year old ready to settle down roasty thread.
Gib FRESH please.
No.553384
>>814209
there are no communist brigades over there, the coup by fascist already happened and you're going to fight on their side against russian nationalists
lets not even pretend the situation is comparable
No.553385
>>553378eugh, i've just imagined their fat flying everywhere
No.553386
>>553374close, ok, it's LatAm
no, I don't work with Anglos/foreigners and it's not a sexpat touristy place
also people here side with Ukraine unless they're already braindead from consuming Venezuelan media
No.553388
>>553376>It's like joining The Avengers, why wouldn't you? Do you not like to have fun?Just looked at a trailer from The Avengers movie, all the normal people are completely impotent and get slapped around by the wakes that the battling demi-gods are making. The message of this movie is stay home and wait for the super beings to fight your battles for you.
No.553389
During a casual meeting at work today, the conflict in Ukraine was brought up. One of my coworkers took this opportunity to gush over Zelensky, talking about how hot he is. Others were in agreement.
Fucking liberals
No.553390
>>553386>LatAmReverse gusano
No.553392
>>553391Bronetransportyor
No.553394
>>553386What's your opinion on what would happen to Russia if it loses this war or stops it? Same question for ordinary people in Russia.
No.553397
>>553395a vasectomy just seems like a good idea if you don't want to have kids, independently of the climate or whatever
No.553398
>>553395>>814230The reasoning is dumb THOUGH
No.553400
>>553389Just smile politely and don't make any weird moves.
No.553401
>>553395Told you about ecofascism
No.553402
>>553395Hope he gets lit up by Ivan.
No.553403
If this thread is full then make a new one
No.553404
>>814230
kill yourself malthusian
No.553405
I wish i could hold shay
No.553407
where is new thread my uyghas
No.553408
>>814246
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No.553409
>>553396I grant you the right to reformulate my question in your head so that it does include the conditional. So, what's your answer then?
No.553411
>>553394no idea, two weeks ago I couldn't predict the war and thought it was military pressure for diplomacy
now with the sanctions in and Russian economy falling from a cliff, everything is possible
No.553412
>>553349UKROP shill cope lmao.
I can believe how these retards think they're winning when the only reason kiev is not carpet bombed is that Putin really wants to avoid civilian casualties, he should take off the kid gloves and go full Seelow Heights.
I'm tired of these smug ukraine retards.
No.553414
>>553399he's just a manlet, no manlet should be allowed into power without through-and-through therapy
t. manlet
No.553415
>>553410Yeah, it's not that bad in my country, actually. But if you find yourself surrounded by anti-Putler hysterics: in that moment your survival is worth more than poking unhinged people who won't change their mind anyway. Don't get yourself killed by proponents of Harry Potter school of geopolitics.
No.553416
>>553412> the only reasonwell yes, that's the server setting for this war
and Russia is losing with it enabled
No.553417
>>553409No geopolitical expert, but I'd imagine a backlash from the West to "ensure this never happens again" in the form of 'temporary' military deployment of NATO/US troops in Ukraine and expedited conversations on Ukraine, Finland joining NATO "to keep Russian aggression in check."
Russian people would turn on Putin for his failure, but instead of any promising political development they'd uphold another nationalist who "won't allow Russia to be embarrassed again"
No.553418
>>553354That subreddit is pure satire lmao.
No.553419
What's the sudden influx of ukrop shills? They really think ukraine is winning this?
No.553420
>>553419given the propaganda i don't doubt there are a bunch of folks who believe the ukrainians are just about obliterating the russians, but anyone with a minimally critical brain will just look at the map and see that ukraine is completely and utterly strategically fucked up
No.553421
>>814338
>tons
>literally just the odd tank here and there. No columns ever.
No.553422
>>814359
okay fam. we will see wont we.
No.553423
>>552984The specific decision to invade now was absolutely retarded on Putin's part.
No.553424
>>814395
>They’re refraining from bombing the country into the stone age
<That means they’re weak
You gotta learn how to psyop better
No.553425
>>553315Russia is self sufficient in all raw materials had has a decent industry, they also have a lot of gold, they can survive without America or Europe
No.553427
>>814247
a birthrate under 2.0 will be catastrophic for society
No.553428
>>814428
And yet they hit a tv tower?
No.553429
>>814428
>struggling against Ukraines rinky dink air force.
You're just trolling (or think you are) at this point
No.553430
>>814230
kill yourself faggot
No.553431
>>553246Now, ain't it awfully convenient that you had experience in the leaf army to explain this sort of shit to us.
Thank fuck the autistic old BO is no more.
No.553432
>>553429How is telling the truth trolling? Kiev is like what? 300 km from the Russian border and they still don't got it surrounded? NATO and Glowuyghurs are shipping in all kinds of wacky weapons on civilian rail it's so wide open.
No.553433
>>553256It's good for the Russian people. Putin is about to die of mysterious illness just like your boy Stalin did here in a minute.
No.553435
>>553428some weapons are more persice then others
No.553436
>>553378
>Although he says he has recently applied to join the British army, he does not have any military experience - and has no links to Ukraine other than a friend he attended college with.>But Joseph is not deterred: "I've got friends who have been in the service, so I've got an idea of what to expect. I've had my warnings.">He said the reaction from his family has been mixed, but they can understand his reasons for wanting to volunteer. Do Anglos really
No.553437
>>553436He’s gonna get his shit fucked up there the first time he sees action. And I don’t know if it’ll be quick.
No.553438
>>553437He probably barely even knew where Ukraine was on the map until 2 months ago
No.553439
>>553216Тоже есть люди среди Украинских войск, слава богу
>>553123>he holodomor was justifiedsaid nobody ever
>Ukranians are subhumansSaid nobody
Fucking fedpost
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