LAST THREAD DECLARED FULL >>1099411AND THE WOMAN HAS JUST ARRIVED>Nancy Pelosi, who is conducting an extensive tour of multiple allied nations in Asia, has finally touched down in the breakaway province of Taiwan despite repeated threats to the speaker's safety.https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nancy-pelosi-lands-taiwan-chinese-threats-military-activityFirst thread:
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581 posts and 71 image replies omitted.>>563112Yeah, 7 years after the US spent arming Ukraine to the teeth and training it's forces as essentially a crypto NATO force.
if Russia had balls and moved it's peacekeepers into the Donbass the moment it took Crimea, the US and Ukraine would still be seething today with little to no casualties, instead, 100 Russian lives are lost every day along with god knows how many Ukrainians.
China needs to show it's willing to show it can respond to IT'S OWN SOVEREIGN BORDERS BEING COMPROMISED BY THE US. Taiwan is part of China, the US just basically waltzed into China's borders, gave China a massive middle finger and shit on the Chinese flag. Kinmen needs a red flag waving over it. The Americans need to be spanked back to their side of the world.
>>563122Enjoy watching China be surrounded by US aircraft carriers, Taiwan armed to the teeth and becoming a crypto NATO country and Japan and Korea rearming to "contain" China.
China will be isolated and crushed, while America laughs.
Taiwan is officially part of China.The US just entered Chinese borders and shit on the Chinese flag, that requires a bigger response than some military drills and frankly, cucked copium "Chinese warning" statements from Xi.
>>563136Taiwan severely limits China's Blue Navy ambitions and practically makes a stealthy Submarine operation for China impossible. Also it's not just Taiwan, Taiwan is just the beachhead, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, India, Australia, Philippines are all crypto being made into a Pacific NATO against China. Look at how Chinese efforts across the entire pacific completely imploded the moment Australia started giving a fuck. China's getting complete disrespect from countries like Samoa now.
The fact is, the world is ruled by Sociopaths and Sociopaths are always testing for and looking for weakness, and we see the US send one of it's most powerful people, into Chinese territory, have her take a giant shit on the Chinese flag IN CHINESE TERRITORY and the most we get is fucking seething statements and a 3 day military exercise that are actually smaller than the 90s "crisis"?
How is that not fucking weak? Is Taiwan part of China or not? How in fuck can any country accept it's territorial integrity undermined like this? The Chinese response is just another fucking "Chinese Final Warning" Xi and China are a laughing stock right now and the world is watching. Countries respect strength, not weakness, if China cannot defend it's own borders, how in fuck can other countries rely on it?
Kinmin needs a red flag over it. This is fucking ridiculous.
>>563158Funny, I messaged my noob layman brother about this whole ordeal and his response was "china is so calm and collective."
Even he understand you dont take the fucking bait.
>>563143They were. Right up until the war actually started.
>>563157Just because I'm a meme-loving fuck doesn't mean I can't be No Fun Allowed.
>>563098>China should be asserting it's dominance now, the fact Kinmen still has the flag of Taiwan over it, is ridiculous. >If you've ever dealt with Sociopaths IRL, you know exactly what the US is doing here. It's a power play and probing China's willingness to response. If there is no meaningful response, the US will push further. Sociopaths are always probing for weakness.You are not wrong with that sociopath analysis, the US will take this as a signal to escalate their hostile moves, because in their eyes China looks week. But Chinese strategical thinking is centered around choosing the time and place of battle. They might consider it weakness to let the US make that choice by reacting to a provocation. There is definitely a cultural difference at play, US preference for asserting dominance vs Chinese preference for only victory matters.
I thought that China would throw down because they have the military advantage and because the US is already caught up with the proxy war against Russia. But who knows their thought processes might be very different from ours. They completely reject game-theoretical thinking after-all, in the cold war Chinese strategist criticized Soviet strategists for making counter moves in response to US moves instead of focusing on creating outcomes regardless of what the US does. For China this might have just been the confirmation that a fight against the US is inevitable and they have calculated when and where they have the highest chances at victory for the lowest cost in lives and treasury, and they are going to pursue the route of optimal outcome no matter what.
>>563175Fujian
build-up
Any news?
>>563098> China should be asserting it's dominance now […] If there is no meaningful response, the US will push further. Sociopaths are always probing for weakness.Yep, exactly right.
All the US understands is immediate force, and both Russia and China have tried to be too clever and
'le strategic' for their own good.
The US watched multiple European nations try to cripple Russia's economy and then saw Russia reward these European nations by keeping the gas running instead of performing an immediate shut-off.
The US watched Russia issue one empty threat after another about targeting Kiev decision-making centers. The attack on the oil rig was supposed to be the final straw. The the latest attacks on Belgorod. Then the shelling in the east. What does US logic infer: "If Russia is too timid to follow through on its CONVENTIONAL threats, then we can dismiss its NUCLEAR threats."
As for China, the US saw the threats about "forceful measures" in response to Pelosi's visit and is now watching to see whether China has the balls to follow through. Some lame military drill won't cut it. China's panicked last-minute scramble to talk tough was an acknowledgment of US power psychology that came too late. China's primary fuck-up was its lukewarm response to the Ukraine conflict. It should've had Russia's back and started shipping out weapons and military tech the moment the West started doing so for Ukraine.
>>563184>China never said it would shoot down the plane or whateverRight – that was some media editor who said China should do that – but China did threaten "forceful measures":
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/china-warns-forceful-measures-if-us-house-speaker-pelosi-visits-taiwan-2022-07-19/So now we get to see what China understands "forceful measures" to be.
>>563152the least unhinged zyganoid lmao
enjoy you special military operation that will last for YEARS like a bleeding cut slowly weakening you while chinese enjoy trade with the west and development over some dick-measuring spooks
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