LAST THREAD DECLARED FULL >>1099411AND THE WOMAN HAS JUST ARRIVED>Nancy Pelosi, who is conducting an extensive tour of multiple allied nations in Asia, has finally touched down in the breakaway province of Taiwan despite repeated threats to the speaker's safety.https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nancy-pelosi-lands-taiwan-chinese-threats-military-activityFirst thread:
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>>562257 (me)
Destroy in a physical sense at least
>>562256are you ridiculous? it's burger morning, and UTC+7 night.
I do not stay up all night, just so happens to post from UTC+7.
Statement by China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs on Pelosi's visit to Taiwanhttps://peoplesdaily.pdnews.cn/china/statement-by-china-s-ministry-of-foreign-affairs-on-pelosi-s-visit-to-taiwan-272059.html>BEIJING, Aug. 2 (Xinhua) - China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs on Tuesday issued a statement on Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi's visit to China's Taiwan region. Following is the full text of the statement:
>On 2 August, in disregard of China's strong opposition and serious representations, Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi visited China's Taiwan region. This is a serious violation of the one-China principle and the provisions of the three China-U.S. joint communiqués. It has a severe impact on the political foundation of China-U.S. relations, and seriously infringes upon China's sovereignty and territorial integrity. It gravely undermines peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait, and sends a seriously wrong signal to the separatist forces for "Taiwan independence". China firmly opposes and sternly condemns this, and has made serious démarche and strong protest to the United States.
>There is but one China in the world, Taiwan is an inalienable part of China's territory, and the Government of the People's Republic of China is the sole legal government representing the whole of China. This has been clearly recognized by United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2758 of 1971. Since the founding of the People's Republic of China in 1949, 181 countries have established diplomatic relations with China on the basis of the one-China principle. The one-China principle is a universal consensus of the international community and a basic norm in international relations.
>In 1979, the United States made a clear commitment in the China-U.S. Joint Communiqué on the Establishment of Diplomatic Relations – "The United States of America recognizes the Government of the People's Republic of China as the sole legal Government of China. Within this context, the people of the United States will maintain cultural, commercial, and other unofficial relations with the people of Taiwan." Congress, as a part of the U.S. Government, is inherently obliged to strictly observe the one-China policy of the U.S. Government and refrain from having any official exchanges with China's Taiwan region. China is all along opposed to the visit to Taiwan by U.S. congressional members, and the U.S. executive branch has the responsibility to stop such visit. Since Speaker Pelosi is the incumbent leader of the U.S. Congress, her visit to and activities in Taiwan, in whatever form and for whatever reason, is a major political provocation to upgrade U.S. official exchanges with Taiwan. China absolutely does not accept this, and the Chinese people absolutely reject this.
>The Taiwan question is the most important and most sensitive issue at the very heart of China-U.S. relations. The Taiwan Strait is facing a new round of tensions and severe challenges, and the fundamental cause is the repeated moves by the Taiwan authorities and the United States to change the status quo. The Taiwan authorities have kept seeking U.S. support for their independence agenda. They refuse to recognize the 1992 Consensus, go all out to push forward "de-sinicization", and promote "incremental independence". The United States, for its part, has been attempting to use Taiwan to contain China. It constantly distorts, obscures and hollows out the one-China principle, steps up its official exchanges with Taiwan, and emboldens "Taiwan independence" separatist activities. These moves, like playing with fire, are extremely dangerous. Those who play with fire will perish by it.
>The position of the Chinese Government and people on the Taiwan question has been consistent. It is the firm commitment of the more than 1.4 billion Chinese people to resolutely safeguard state sovereignty and territorial integrity. It is the common aspiration and sacred responsibility of all Chinese sons and daughters to realize the complete reunification of the motherland. The will of the people is not to be defied, and the trend of the times cannot be reversed. No country, no forces and no individual should ever misestimate the firm resolve, strong will and great capability of the Chinese Government and people to defend state sovereignty and territorial integrity and to achieve national reunification and rejuvenation. China will definitely take all necessary measures to resolutely safeguard its sovereignty and territorial integrity in response to the U.S. Speaker's visit. All the consequences arising therefrom must be borne by the U.S. side and the "Taiwan independence" separatist forces.
>China and the United States are two major countries. The right way for them to deal with each other lies only in mutual respect, peaceful coexistence, no-confrontation and win-win cooperation. The Taiwan question is purely an internal affair of China, and no other country is entitled to act as a judge on the Taiwan question. China strongly urges the United States to stop playing the "Taiwan card" and using Taiwan to contain China. It should stop meddling on Taiwan and interfering in China's internal affairs. It should stop supporting and conniving at "Taiwan independence" separatist forces in any form. It should stop its acts of saying one thing but doing the opposite on the Taiwan question. It should stop distorting, obscuring and hollowing out the one-China principle. It must take credible actions to observe strictly the one-China principle and the provisions of the three China-U.S. joint communiqués, deliver on the "five noes" commitment made by the U.S. leadership (i.e. not seek a "new Cold War"; not seek to change China's system; the revitalization of its alliances is not against China; not support "Taiwan independence"; not look for conflict with China), and not go further down the wrong and dangerous path. >>562264tl;dr, chinese seethe
Xibros and HAPOONERS BTFO. LMFAO'ing at the guy who told me last night that said "NOW" is the time for China to "strike." Fucking dumb kids LOL
>>562256that's why it's "leftypol", it's the same stupidity as in the other site but with different people
all of the pepes and wojaks should've tipped you off
>>562266I get the impression they are rather hyperbolic.
Much like anons here desu.
>>562270It's like
>Reagan visits Timor Leste>Indonesia chillsbut
>Nancy (not Prez) visits Taiwan>China throws a fitwhy is it a problem?
>>562270Now they'll be too busy talking about the no fly zone over whatever inane schemes they were going to talk about
My sides are in orbit
>>562280TAIWAN DECLARES INDEPENDENCE
THE CENTURY OF HUMILIATION IS STARTING EARLY BOYS
https://twitter.com/Sino_Market/status/1554486404033515532TARGETED MILITARY OPERATIONS
SPECIAL MILITARY OPERATION BROS, WERE BACK
>>562293I know it's bait but the USA would probably be shooting itself in the foot jeopardizing trade with China.
Russia was on the menu for heavy trade war because it was the Eurocuck minions who pay most of the price and will compensate the US for their part.
And this goes for China too. They gotta keep posturing but they are both porky co-dependent at heart.
>>562292Meaning what? They'll conduct flybys of some islands?
From St*lin's socialism in one country policy and cuckout in Greece, the future of socialism has been nothing but a cavalcade of humiliation and retreat.
I hope the Chinese proletariat rise up and hang the entire CCP.
>>562308It did the Chinese erected a no fly zone around Taiwan moments after she landed
I'm impressed I mean I was kinda hoping China would just cuck out because provoking the rabid dog with nukes would be bad for my loved ones but this is even better
>"China's final warning" (Russian: Последнее китайское предупреждение) is a Russian proverb meaning a warning that carries no real consequences.
>“The last Chinese warning” is an allegorical idiom in Russian, meaning fruitless threats “in words”, about which it is known that no action will follow in the near future [1] .
>Relations between the People's Republic of China and the United States of America during the 1950s and 1960s were strained due to the Taiwan Strait issues. American military fighter jets regularly patrolled the straits, which led to regular formal protests being lodged by the Chinese Communist Party. In China, they issued over 900 "final warnings" to the United States for their fighter manoeuvres in the Taiwan Strait, albeit with no real consequences. Thus, it is a common sentiment in Russia that Chinese warnings are merely warnings without consequences. Eventually, "China's Final Warning" became a catchphrase and proverb in Russia as a result.[2][3]
>The People's Republic of China released their first warning to the United States for their reconnaissance flights on 7 September 1958, during the Second Taiwan Strait Crisis. At that time, the United States considered the Republic of China as the sole legitimate representative of China, and conducted reconnaissance flights in waters controlled by the People's Republic of China. The People's Republic of China recorded such incidents, and issued warnings through diplomatic channels for each incident. The precise number of Chinese warnings is difficult to be evaluated, but is considered to have occurred more than 900 times by the end of 1964.
>The Chinese government's "final warnings" were regularly broadcast by news outlets and became the talk of the town . Since then, in Russian, the expression "(last) Chinese warning" has become a household word. Various variants of this catchphrase are used, for example: "647th Chinese warning", "723rd, last, Chinese warning", etc. The expression "Chinese warning" was often used in other languages of the former Soviet Union, in particular in Estonian, and is sometimes still used [4] [5] .https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%27s_final_warninghttps://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B5_%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5#:~:text=%C2%AB%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B5%CC%81%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B5%20%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B0%CC%81%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B5%20%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%CC%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5%C2%BB%20%E2%80%94%20%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F,%D0%B2%20%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B6%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%B5%20%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%8F%20%D0%BD%D0%B5%20%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%B5%D1%82.
>>562362You really think your fucking shut-in imageboard ass would be safe in a world war?
Touch grass. Other people aren't abstractions that exist to fill your own narcissistic need for a "happening" in order to feel something.
>>562360Already happened m8
No fly zone
Ahem I mean military excercises where flying is prohibited for safety reasons all around Taiwan now
>>562339https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-08-02/PLA-will-conduct-important-military-exercises-training-activities-1cb4B4BWZAk/index.htmlYeap. Now the USA needs to ask permission to leave and tread very carefully. Or hey, maybe some
unexpected circumstance turns out to prolong the exercises and Pelosi gets stranded onTaiwan for a few weeks.
>>562373is the CCP naturally incompetent? WTF I LOVE THE KMT NOW
OG POST XINHAI CHINA
>>562363My position is that war bad, but global nuclear holocaust is good because death is swift for most and it (hopefully) leads to the merciful extintiction of the human race i.e. the end of suffering alltogether.
What does that make me
>>562377>>562377Yes we need to stop mocking China, we must support them. Not only they are helping fight american imperialism worldwide but are helping small countries develop.
We must support them in this moment of hardship and actually celebrate their restraint . The showed who's the bigger, better country
>>562386Basically.
All these happening threads come off as just the most alienated people on this site being so desperate to feel something other than crushing emptiness under capitalism that they'll literally welcome mass death because "ermaghad it's big pretty colors on a screen just like muh movies"
>>562401>happening posters immediately doing the "IF YOU DON'T WANT MY MASS MURDER FANTASIES TO COME TRUE THEN YOU'RE A RIGHTOID" thing they always do when people call them out on their shitThe absolute
FUCKING state of this board
>>562420my tea's gone cold I'm wondering why I
got out of bed at all
>>562412I obviously mean all of the """"""""ironic"""""""" pro-US posts, I don't want war dumbass
but keep it up, you're doing your part contributing to the cesspool
>>562413>>562432>s-s-source!!Maybe smoke some opium and relax a bit.
Its over for chinacels
>>562443Really makes me think
Can China become a fascist state
Or is the CCP incompetent and capital-ridden by this day
>>562432A commentator working for Global Times tweeted it out, but the tweet was removed. There were a bunch of articles about it 3-4 days ago
https://nypost.com/2022/07/30/chinese-propagandist-hu-xijin-deletes-nancy-pelosi-flight-tweet/That's just one article, you can google Hu Xijin and find 100 other articles
>>562415I really cannot overemphasize how seriously Twitter has distorted Chinese foreign policy by giving “Chinese State Media” label out to every single person they can.
GT is not Chinese State Media. I think this should be stated unambiguously. The details are just confusing and irrelevant.
There is one actually Chinese State Media. People’s Daily. This is the official media for the Chinese state.
>>562449how autistic are you to think people are serious about this lmao
It was always going to be a nothingburger ppl are just having a laugh
>>562455Gloabl Times is my uygha
Mouth piece of the CCP really
>>562453It shows the difference between a he zeitgeist in the US and China.
The US is an extremely anxious, unhappy and violent place where there is a palpable sense of worry and decline. They don’t feel the have a peace and they don’t treasure this. They demand endless spectacles, spectacular violence, wars, air raid sirens, mass shootings, global catastrophe. They can’t bear to endure their lives, and anyone who won’t satisfy their bloodlust is a coward.
China on the other hand, is a peaceful and optimistic country that doesn’t actually want war. They have every real right to continue the war with the RoC, if they want. They simply don’t want to. This lack of desire for war is baffling to a USian.
>>562491You are an honorary East Asian uygha.
Harmony > strife.
China will rise peacefully.
>>562494UP-TOWN-GIRL
SHE'S-BEEN-LI-VIN'-IN-HER-UP-TOWN-WORLD
>>562496Ok schizo.
The problem with Angloid China dreaming is it’s completely made up from a standpoint of total ignorance, so they just project like crazy.
>>562512>an eventual peaceful referendum endorsed by the ROC government.We get Tsai today.
How is it possible?
>>562467>how autistic are you to think people are serious about this lmaoYeah, it's all just for fun! And when you can't tell the ironic posts from the real ones you'll know this place is a lost cause.
Oh wait, that's right now with these threads.
>>562524Nah bro the communist chan board has real revolutionary potential
Go outside
>>562538Absolutely not reliable.
How many times are you morons going to fall for this FLG shit?
There’s something you should understand by Chinese liberals, and FLG, and all anti-China constituents within the Chinese speaking world: they are unrepentant liars.
>>562548It’s literally nothing and not what’s being described and most likely not even from this year.
I invite you to recall early Covid and all those videos you saw of people collapsing and dying in the streets from Covid, which were absolutely not Covid, but just relabeled videos of an old man having a seizure or something like that. From the exact. Same. People.
>>562575That's just burger hours
You just have to wait them out and They'll go to bed eventually
>>562575most people here are
(or were?) Pro-China. they are just venting their frustrations about China not saving face.
>>562590Increase in military exercises, eventual overflight, closing the median line etc. War isn’t going to happen for many years, if at all. It would be ridiculous to start one now. China will give Taiwanese every opportunity to a path to peaceful reunification. Only once they have completely forsaken it, like Hong Kong, will they military come in.
It’s not up to the US to decide the fate of China.
>>562582I like how my nationality continues to bamboozle dipshits like you. Anyway…
>You were Kochinskiite!No? I started from a tripple combo of Cockshott, Chapo and Adam Curtis. That was and still is my foundation, with only Curtis getting somewhat pushed asside and Phil A. Neel taking the spotlight as my ideological idol.
>>562615>CockshottRespectable if controversial position, cool
>Adam CurtisI mean yeah I like his stuff but it's kinda pop-critique at the end of the day
>ChapoOkay come on I like them too but it's the fucking daily show for burger leftists
>>562625>Pop critiqueYeah, that is why I pushed him more asside the further I went, but he was very important at the start
>Chapos are just a daily showYeah, but everyone needs a hookpoint that got you in. Chapos were that for me. And as of today, Matt Christman, in my view, legitametly is one of the best leftwing thinkers, at least on the internet sphere, even if he has his own spiritual excentricities here and there. I think he is a good counterbalance to Cockshott's mechanism.
>>562590My guess China is going take this provocation as an excuse to tell all domestic suppliers to raise the prices of their export goods and pass it on to western consumers. Inflation is going to skyrocket this winter.
If China really wants to make the West bleed, the PRC could implement something I call the “Lithoyuan”, Rare Earth Minerals only exchangeable for RMBs.
>>562716Sounds like pussy talk to me
Xitch folded. Move on
>>562714Not at all. Chinese value peace and safety more than Americans. Much, much more. Which is extremely evident.
But to dismiss this argument this way is absurd, since it again just says that your narrow, parochial view of the world as an American is actually universal.
>>562730Because they said they would?
Because it would be a clear signal that the US can't just do anything it decides to?
If nothing else, because it'd be funny?
>>562746They didn't?
american
>>562746>Because they said they would.But they fucking didn’t you moron. Should me the MoD statement. Show me the MoFA statement.
Hu Jixin is not a state mouthpieces. Straight up. He is not. Twitter is wrong.
>>562652I think you might be right. There's got to be some response, and while shooting down pelosi's plans would have been the most immediately satisfying one, I don't think it would have been the one that most serves China's interests.
Currently the US is experiencing multiple crises that it's fundamentally unable to deal with. Covid is running rampant, and now monkeypox is out of control as well. Supply chain issues have been worsening since the the pandemic began, and the threat of the railroad strike nearly threatened to collapse it all. The Western half of the country is either on fire or gripped by drought, and gas prices are hammering the economy and driving record setting inflation. Couple all that with the fact that the US production capacity of any useful good is virtually non-existent, and that it's facing serious shortages of all types of goods, good especially, in the very near future, and you have a equation whose outcome stands very strongly in China's favor. Let the US continue to fail, and China's position improves by default. China imposing sanctions or even just adjusting trade relations not in the us favor hurts America much more than China, without the threat of nuclear war.
In the best case scenario, if the US economy collapses or otherwise fails as a market for Taiwan's chips, then China becomes their major trading partner and stock holder by default. Fighting over Taiwan, which produces half the world's computer chips, is the last thing they want. It would be cutting the neck of the golden goose.
Pelosi landing in Taiwan looks bad for China, but as Russia has been proving in regards to Ukraine, winning or losing the propaganda war isn't the same as losing the actual conflict. If they can maintain their zero covid/monkeypox policy, and continue to develop their economy in real terms while staving off disastrous effects of climate change, and avoid getting into a shooting match with Nato, then US's ongoing crises and internal decay will continue to eat itself to the bone.
>>562809Of course he will. Trust the plan, two more weeks.
Xi
>>562806i would have agreed with you 5 months ago, when it seemed like a week-long war rather than the most drawn out worthless shitshow eastern europe has seen in decades lmao
westoids killed itself with sanctions but kekraine fulfilled its purpose as a sacrificial lamb to draw russia into a new vietnam/afghanistan and maybe renew faith in NATO now that there's a boogeyman they can point to, even if ruskis win the damage has already been done
>>562840US knew exactly what it was doing pointing to regular military buildups and using it as an excuse to do soft sanctions and shelling with their "predictions"
Russia just figured the US was biting off more than it can chew and fucked their shit up
>>562876Why would he though? Who really cares if Nancy goes there or not. It’s not actually unprecedented. Any Chinese action regarding Pelosi will yield the same response from the US. An increase in hostile posturing, differing only on justification. One to exploit weakness, one to restore credibility and deterrence.
This visit justifies so called pricetag operarions. In response to this visit, China will gain more latitude to conducted military exercises, which will matter many years down the line, and this visit will not.
>>562891How can it be an invasion the Russians entered at the request of the Donbass Peoples republics
Ohmigosg so you're saying the USA just invaded China by landing a military plane in Taiwan
Guess China should just shell Taiwan
like the Kiev regime was doing to the donbass for 8 years I mean based on the precedent set here if Ukraine is well within its rights to do that so is China
>>562895>>562897If China invades Taiwan then the US can say "Well there is afterall only one China, though we condemn their belligerence". If China sits around fingering their asshole for another decade the situation could very well be "Well we have to act because we've signed a treaty with the ROC and if we don't act on it then it's ogre for us".
Sounds like you're the ones doing heaps of pretending yourself when you act like reunification is ever going to happen.
>>5629171) They invaded a lot more the Donbass;
2) I'm not a proponent of the Ukranian mob; and
3) China muscling Taiwan would be good, although I do belief their current course is the wiser one.
Again, you can just call it what it is: an invasion. No need for this kneejerk reaction to a moralizing that is not relevant.
>>562944Fair point.
>>562939Oh, definitely. The only things that matter are the aims and the Russians actually achieving those.
>>562961jfc FDR was president during the lives of some burgers but they act like the two term thing was
ALWAYS law and it is a
fucking cornerstone of democracy. Meanwhile Senators/Reps/Justices have no term limits.
>>562961please don't be stupidpol please don't be stupidpol please don't be stupidpol
aight anon i'm gonna check if it's stupidpol because i hate myself and want to cringe
>>562979 (me)
Burgers are a mix of a Klingon and a Pakled. Fat and timid yet aggressive at the same time.
>>562991Hence
>>562983 They're a combination of Pakleds and Klingons.
>>562972stupidpol is a pretty big political community with relatively weak moderation so natoid "demsocs" and rightoids are frequent guests there, shitting on AES and Chynah
though their ukraine general is pretty chill and even less glowed than here
>>563003To be fair to the burgerbrained it's perfectly valid for them at least if they're actually a burger to feel frustrated that the Chinese didn't just kill Pelosi and co by shooting them out of the sky when they had a perfectly valid reason
If I was a burger I'd imagine I'd be pretty upset about it too
>>563018Russia: Cuts Nazi nuts off
China: Gelded by Nancy Pelosi
Updates:
Get ready for more feds and glowies in your cities. FBI is recruiting. Especially those under 35 and diverse.
Sauce:
FOX 6 Milwaukee: Milwaukee FBI now hiring, what it takes to be an agent.
https://www.fox6now.com/news/milwaukee-fbi-hiring-special-agentAlso cops on pace for the most kills on civilians this year. These are the only recorded kills.
Sauce:
https://nitter.snopyta.org/samswey/status/1554164266281738241?t=_AOWzVX7WKUVZoRvCkhn-w&s=19>>562399No, it's just /sp/ culture hype and shittalk. Because international relations is a spectator sport, apparently. It gets real quiet once something
actually happens.
>>563090Dude, the US will just use this as an excuse to push even further with Taiwan, expect US bases and shit opening up there in the coming years. It's Ukraine all over again.
China should be asserting it's dominance now, the fact Kinmen still has the flag of Taiwan over it, is ridiculous.
If you've ever dealt with Sociopaths IRL, you know exactly what the US is doing here. It's a power play and probing China's willingness to response. If there is no meaningful response, the US will push further. Sociopaths are always probing for weakness.
>>563098You're forgetting that Russian response occurred so fast because the build up occurred in March of last year, when Ukraine made the declarations first.
So I ask again, are there any updates on the build up in Fujian?
>>562776Yeah, too many people here are caught up in the moment. The current CPC has a calculating wait and plan approach. Look at the Hong Kong riots and the following national security law that stomped that fire out. A more recent example was the Solomon Island riots, where Chinese diplomats were able to persuade the SI government to form a security deal by convincingly blame the Australian security forces in the region while diverting any failure on the part of the SI government.
If I remember correctly there’s going to be a military exercise in Latin America this year with China, Russia and Iran. I think China is going to beef up its presence.
>>563112Yeah, 7 years after the US spent arming Ukraine to the teeth and training it's forces as essentially a crypto NATO force.
if Russia had balls and moved it's peacekeepers into the Donbass the moment it took Crimea, the US and Ukraine would still be seething today with little to no casualties, instead, 100 Russian lives are lost every day along with god knows how many Ukrainians.
China needs to show it's willing to show it can respond to IT'S OWN SOVEREIGN BORDERS BEING COMPROMISED BY THE US. Taiwan is part of China, the US just basically waltzed into China's borders, gave China a massive middle finger and shit on the Chinese flag. Kinmen needs a red flag waving over it. The Americans need to be spanked back to their side of the world.
>>563122Enjoy watching China be surrounded by US aircraft carriers, Taiwan armed to the teeth and becoming a crypto NATO country and Japan and Korea rearming to "contain" China.
China will be isolated and crushed, while America laughs.
Taiwan is officially part of China.The US just entered Chinese borders and shit on the Chinese flag, that requires a bigger response than some military drills and frankly, cucked copium "Chinese warning" statements from Xi.
>>563136Taiwan severely limits China's Blue Navy ambitions and practically makes a stealthy Submarine operation for China impossible. Also it's not just Taiwan, Taiwan is just the beachhead, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, India, Australia, Philippines are all crypto being made into a Pacific NATO against China. Look at how Chinese efforts across the entire pacific completely imploded the moment Australia started giving a fuck. China's getting complete disrespect from countries like Samoa now.
The fact is, the world is ruled by Sociopaths and Sociopaths are always testing for and looking for weakness, and we see the US send one of it's most powerful people, into Chinese territory, have her take a giant shit on the Chinese flag IN CHINESE TERRITORY and the most we get is fucking seething statements and a 3 day military exercise that are actually smaller than the 90s "crisis"?
How is that not fucking weak? Is Taiwan part of China or not? How in fuck can any country accept it's territorial integrity undermined like this? The Chinese response is just another fucking "Chinese Final Warning" Xi and China are a laughing stock right now and the world is watching. Countries respect strength, not weakness, if China cannot defend it's own borders, how in fuck can other countries rely on it?
Kinmin needs a red flag over it. This is fucking ridiculous.
>>563158Funny, I messaged my noob layman brother about this whole ordeal and his response was "china is so calm and collective."
Even he understand you dont take the fucking bait.
>>563143They were. Right up until the war actually started.
>>563157Just because I'm a meme-loving fuck doesn't mean I can't be No Fun Allowed.
>>563098>China should be asserting it's dominance now, the fact Kinmen still has the flag of Taiwan over it, is ridiculous. >If you've ever dealt with Sociopaths IRL, you know exactly what the US is doing here. It's a power play and probing China's willingness to response. If there is no meaningful response, the US will push further. Sociopaths are always probing for weakness.You are not wrong with that sociopath analysis, the US will take this as a signal to escalate their hostile moves, because in their eyes China looks week. But Chinese strategical thinking is centered around choosing the time and place of battle. They might consider it weakness to let the US make that choice by reacting to a provocation. There is definitely a cultural difference at play, US preference for asserting dominance vs Chinese preference for only victory matters.
I thought that China would throw down because they have the military advantage and because the US is already caught up with the proxy war against Russia. But who knows their thought processes might be very different from ours. They completely reject game-theoretical thinking after-all, in the cold war Chinese strategist criticized Soviet strategists for making counter moves in response to US moves instead of focusing on creating outcomes regardless of what the US does. For China this might have just been the confirmation that a fight against the US is inevitable and they have calculated when and where they have the highest chances at victory for the lowest cost in lives and treasury, and they are going to pursue the route of optimal outcome no matter what.
>>563175Fujian
build-up
Any news?
>>563098> China should be asserting it's dominance now […] If there is no meaningful response, the US will push further. Sociopaths are always probing for weakness.Yep, exactly right.
All the US understands is immediate force, and both Russia and China have tried to be too clever and
'le strategic' for their own good.
The US watched multiple European nations try to cripple Russia's economy and then saw Russia reward these European nations by keeping the gas running instead of performing an immediate shut-off.
The US watched Russia issue one empty threat after another about targeting Kiev decision-making centers. The attack on the oil rig was supposed to be the final straw. The the latest attacks on Belgorod. Then the shelling in the east. What does US logic infer: "If Russia is too timid to follow through on its CONVENTIONAL threats, then we can dismiss its NUCLEAR threats."
As for China, the US saw the threats about "forceful measures" in response to Pelosi's visit and is now watching to see whether China has the balls to follow through. Some lame military drill won't cut it. China's panicked last-minute scramble to talk tough was an acknowledgment of US power psychology that came too late. China's primary fuck-up was its lukewarm response to the Ukraine conflict. It should've had Russia's back and started shipping out weapons and military tech the moment the West started doing so for Ukraine.
>>563184>China never said it would shoot down the plane or whateverRight – that was some media editor who said China should do that – but China did threaten "forceful measures":
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/china-warns-forceful-measures-if-us-house-speaker-pelosi-visits-taiwan-2022-07-19/So now we get to see what China understands "forceful measures" to be.
>>563152the least unhinged zyganoid lmao
enjoy you special military operation that will last for YEARS like a bleeding cut slowly weakening you while chinese enjoy trade with the west and development over some dick-measuring spooks
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