GIVE WAR A CHANCE EditionRussia has launched multiple missiles over Ukraine. The attacks continue. Preliminary targets of missile strikes on Ukraine according to OSINT and telegram channels. The following cities were hit:
- Kiev
- Dnepropetrovsk
- Kharkov
- Zaporozhye
- Ternopil
- Odessa
- Krivoy Rog
- Lvov
- Zhytomyr
- Rivne
- Nikolaev
- Krapivnitsky
- Kremenchug
- Konotop
Attacks on critical infrastructure:
- Glavk SBU (Kyiv)
- CHPP-5 (Kyiv)
- CHPP-6 (Kyiv)
- Lvovskaya CHPP (Lviv)
- Burshtynska TPP (Ivano-Frankivsk region)
- EU Advisory Mission (Kyiv)
- Department of Law Enforcement Agencies (Kyiv) Kyiv and Kharkov
Total loss of power:
- Lvov
- Zhytomyr
- Sumy
- Kharkov
- Khmelnitsky
- Poltava
- Ternopl
- Lutsk
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>Lukashenko, Putin agree on deployment of joint regional group of forceshttps://eng.belta.by/president/view/lukashenko-putin-agree-on-deployment-of-joint-regional-group-of-forces-153704-2022/>Ukraine stops electricity export due to Russia’s attacks on power facilities - Energy Ministryhttps://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/864571.html———————————————
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German cyber security chief to be fired after alleged Russia ties, sources say>Germany is planning to fire Arne Schoenbohm, the head of the BSI national cyber security agency, after reports he had contacts with Russian intelligence services, government sources told AFP on Monday.
>The interior ministry said it is “taking reports seriously” and “investigating them comprehensively.”For all the latest headlines, follow our Google News channel online or via the app.
>Schoenbohm in 2012 co-founded a Berlin-based association known as the Cyber Security Council Germany, which advises businesses, government agencies and policymakers on cyber security issues.
>That association is now under fire over alleged contacts to Russian secret services.
>According to an investigation by a popular satire program on the ZDF broadcaster, Schoenbohm still maintains contact with the association.https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2022/10/10/German-cyber-security-chief-to-be-fired-after-alleged-Russia-ties-sources-say-https://archive.ph/cloMuWhat is this 'popular satire program'?
>Zelensky complains about arrivals in Kyiv and other cities. And how did you, sucker-Zelensky, think: you can, but others can’t?
>That is, for eight years it was possible to bomb civilians, destroy the infrastructure of the cities of the LDNR, cover a nuclear power plant with shells, blow up bridges, fire at important objects, but how did it fly on your head, so suddenly it became impossible for anyone?
>We warned you, Zelensky, that Russia hasn’t really started yet, so stop complaining like cheap stuff, but better, run before it arrives. Run, Zelensky, run, without looking back, towards the West.
>Now I am 100% satisfied with the CBO.-kadyrov
https://t.me/s/RKadyrov_95 >>565289>terror bomb doesn't worktell that to lvov completely without electricity lmao.
this is 100% a morale booster for Russians, and a morale destroyer for the khokhols.
Damn, these people are doing damage control.
>>565305This is another guy I would recommend. I'm not that poster. He has great takes and analysis of this war and was a top military official in the usa and even had a spot on trump admin
You can find interviews of him on YouTube
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor >>565307Here is a channel that interviews him every week
He is a conservative and so is the host but very realistic analysis
>>565309“Mr. Bolton has become very, very rich and is in the position he’s in because of his unconditional support for the Israeli lobby. He is their man on the ground in the White House,” said Macgregor.
The same thing is largely true for Mr. Pompeo, he has aspirations to be president,” Macgregor said. “He has his hands out for money from the Israeli lobby, the Saudis and others.”
“I think the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee [AIPAC] and its subordinate elements or affiliated elements that represent enormous quantities of money that over many years have cultivated an enormous influence in power in Congress,” he said.
I think you’ve got a lot of people on the Hill who fall into two categories — one category that is interested in money and wants to be reelected, and they don’t want to run the risk of the various lobbies that are pushing military action against Iran to contribute money to their opponents,” Macgregor said.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-pentagon-advisor-said-pompeo-senior-officials-made-rich-by-israeli-lobby/ >>565325I remember earlier this month, or ending this month, western pundits were worried that ukraine is using all of their manpower in the east and south 'leaving outposts in kiev, chernihiev, and kharkov western areas without defense'.
seems everything is coming to a new phase, one in which perhaps ukraine loses more ground, and now very local countries such as Romania and Esthonia are asking to negotiate with Russia (after they depleted their arsenal)
>>565326use your phone, ipad, or monitor to just open a pic of putin and make a photo of it
you can easily clean cum off
>>565327 (me)
>or ending this monthending last month
>>565305>It's an interesting critique, but how many of the top American military planners are actually liberal ideologues? Those guys aren't, the civilian leadership is. Look at the Biden administration's foreign policy team, there's no consistency or substance. It's literally pure ideology about the post-1945 liberal international order.
Mearsheimer in contrast believes in 19th century style balance of power realpolitik. He rips up the successor to the balance of power politics, which is called liberal hegemony, as basically fomenting its own demise. See wherever he uses the phrase "double down" when it comes to the Ukraine crisis. He repeatedly mentions that in the context of the US belief that it has the liberal right to expand an empire not only regardless of balances, but in the name of tearing them down. This interacted poorly with globalization as like a high stage for imperialism, it meant we were basically resuming 19th century history in some regions in the name of constructing a 21st century world. Wherever this caused a crisis, we doubled down and ahistorically blamed the Russians. This has culminated in full blown claims of an incoming Greater Russia or USSR, genocide of Ukrainians, and Putin as a second Hitler. All of which are supposed to say that this is our chance to make up for WW2.
This is all ahistorical ideological backfilling, and either the realist or materialist perspective will tell you why. Realists can see how thanks to history we largely own the world's balances of power, and materialists can see how thanks to history the chains of imperialism are unipolar. Liberals are in a state of utterly denying reality with ideological abstractions which commonly do three things
1) recognize that thanks to history liberalism is the most vulnerable to a crisis of world imperialism
2) work to protect how world imperialism has historically concentrated power in the west
3) despite 1 and 2, work to decenter the West as the cause of the crisis even if it means decentering world imperialism in the age of unipolarity and globalization.
As a result, liberal ideology now functions to argue that to explain the crisis of the world you must ignore its world system. This is a massive contradiction in liberalism that exposes it as not universal, which makes for an existential crisis to any liberal. That's why they're all rushing to become hawks, to plug the holes in the political structure. Bourgeois democracy is degenerating from an idea of how capitalist states can grow together to the logic of the most rich states making war on the emergent economies.
Mearsheimer knows this, he sees the global class war that is distorting liberalism. He sees that his realpolitik balance of power is more consistent and universal for these different strata of the capitalist world, and he ardently believes this is the only way to preserve US global dominance.
Liberals, like the ideologue Michael McFaul, think this is regression in policy that reflects a greater retreat of liberalism and American power in the world. So liberals want to put everything on the table in the name of preserving everything gained so far. Mearsheimer wants to make sacrifices to pivot to China.
The whole thing speaks to the growing disaster of American leadership in the world. For these divisions to emerge is a very bad sign. There are no parallels in the original Cold War, because the Cold War was never about a crisis of American power.
>It seems if surrounding Russia really was a bad thing for American capital, then the Americans wouldn't be doing it.That's not really the question here. The question is whether liberal ideological delusions, as intensified by the crisis of the liberal end of history, missed the chance to flip Russia to contain China. The former is the ideological threat in the liberal view, the latter is the threat to American interests in the realist view.
Interview with the Chinese Ambassador in Budapest Qi Dayu
China and Hungary have set a good example for state-to-state relations
https://www.budapesttimes.hu/diplomacy/china-and-hungary-have-set-a-good-example-for-state-to-state-relations/>>565331Using simple worlds.
China puts constraints on US economical power.
Russia puts constraints on how US can use it's military.
Together Russia, China, India, Iran and a few other countries with DIFFERENT systems working together - are a threat to the US ideological soft power, providing an alternative to liberal end of history that actually works.
>>565342damn I can only imagine the psychological pressure again kek.
if having Kiev almost surrounded almost started a negotiation, then hohols kicked the table, I can't imagine what would try to do? first repeal the act they put that no one can negotiate with Russia as long as Putin is in power.
In a meeting with the Polish Deputy Foreign Minister Pawel Jablonski late on Sunday, Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian once again underscored that Tehran has not supplied any party with weapons to be used in the war in Ukraine.
Amir Abdollahian reiterated that the principled position of Iran is to oppose arming any of the parties in the war with the aim of stopping the conflict.
https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/10/10/iran-opposes-arming-parties-in-ukraine-conflict-to-end-the-war/Russia had argued that a secret vote was needed because Western lobbying would make it difficult for countries to express their positions openly
The UN General Assembly voted on Monday to reject Russia’s call for the 193-member body to hold a secret ballot later this week on whether to condemn Moscow’s move to annex four partially occupied regions in Ukraine. The General Assembly decided, with 107 votes in favour, that it would hold a public vote – and not a secret ballot – on a draft resolution that would condemn Russia’s “illegal so-called referenda” and the “attempted illegal annexation”. Diplomats said the vote on the resolution would probably be on Wednesday. Only 13 countries on Monday opposed holding a public vote on the draft resolution, another 39 countries abstained and the remaining countries did not vote. Russia had argued that a secret ballot was needed because Western lobbying meant that “it may be very difficult if positions are expressed publicly”.
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3195505/un-rejects-russias-call-secret-vote-ukraineWheat climbs to three-month high on rising Ukraine War worries
The ease in prices into the close came amid ongoing concern that an economic slump will curb global demand for grains and other farm products.
https://www.pressherald.com/2022/10/10/wheat-climbs-to-three-month-high-on-rising-ukraine-war-worries/>>565352I say this because he's my representative and I'm more familiar with him than you are. He is a fascist, a lunatic, and a religious fanatic who has absolutely zero regard for human life.
If ziggers are unironically going to start telling me that Paul Gosar is fucking based, I'm going to personally nuke Russia myself
>>565353Agree, that part was stupid. I more meant the general spirit of his stance.
>>565383yes.
it will be published soon in covert action magazine.
>>565381107 yes
13 no
39 abstain
33 ignored
>>565396working on it still, should actually be finished or near finished soon, got too high last night to celebrate but when ive finished laundry and get a nice workout in i can probably get it most of the way there tonight.
there is way more to it, i'm focusing on the georgian legion, but the situation in georgia was mega fucked, even more so than most post-soviet states. georgia was openly run by the actual mafia for years.
>>565398the topic on the un is boring. from one side, it doesn't matter if the un does recognize you, because Palestine is an invited member, and that hasn't impeded Israel each year from taking their land and bombing their civilian infrastructure. and countries not recognized like taiwan live like gods
Not all countries recognised have a good destiny, not all non-recognized countries are living trash. This is just the west trying to stretch the argument 'the world is against you', when precisely the u.s. policies are widely and wildly rejected.
>>565262>we're still calling mersheimer based.for fucks sake.
It's these peoples jobs in politics to understand these things. Him and people like him is literally (part of) the enemy.
>>565275>thinks they're going about it the wrong wayThat's a big oof. American Imperialism is functioning as
intended. If anything, they're sabotaging themselves by being so soft and high on their own rhetoric.
>>565409>It's these peoples jobs in politics to understand these things. Him and people like him is literally (part of) the enemy.Mearsheimer is basically doing realist self-critique for America's role in the world as based on liberalism.
America's role in the world undermines liberalism by serving as the means to basically go to war with everything after the Cold War. It allowed everyone to turn into viciously hawkish pigs that pretend to be fighting out old battles to carve up the modern world, especially after the collapse of socialism. Mearsheimer believes liberalism depends on American unipolarity, since if you dominate all balances then you don't have to worry about how these balances especially hurt liberal nations that operate on rights rather than balances. This is a capitalist construction that carries the seed of its own destruction. There is no international order built on the domination of the international order. However, that's exactly how the 21st century has been framed in the West. Mearsheimer believes that the crisis is caused by the liberal delusions of most of the world's great powers meeting the realities of the rest of the world as a unipolar moment leads to rapid expansion and interconnection.
Liberalism undermines America's role by obsessively focusing on Russia at the expense of China. By focusing on how far Europe has come (past Russia) liberals are ignoring the actual change redefining the world. That's China's rise. Their blindspot for China is also a blindspot for Russia, since this is really about stalled Western expansion into the periphery of Europe being progressively offset by growing Eurasian integration. It's not about big bad Russia vs Europe's little nations, including Ukraine.
>>565417Modern US imperialists are goings against the wisdom of their ancestors. The point of capitalist imperialism is not to have your garrisons around the world or to micro manage politics of far of nations but it is just to open foreign markets up to your capitalist class, period, full stop.
US imperialism objectively has no interest if Ukraine is ruled by Putin, by Washington or is independent. All that matters is Russian commodities are available to the western capitalist class at a discount rate and western exports are allowed into Russia.
>>565421Kissinger's take on the Ukraine crisis was also based. I'm not sure what the problem is here.
The reason we can agree with them is very simple. Materialists and realists think in historical terms, whereas liberals believe they're posthistorical. Materialists and realists recognize the West represents an empire with interests, not humanity and its rights. It's not defending democracy in Ukraine, it's attempting to expand and either materialism or realism will tell you why it's doing so in a particularly bad way. In the materialist view, liberalism is not supposed to conclude with a democratic antagonism between nations of people. The idea Europe must struggle against Russians to be free and united is just degeneration. Instead liberalism should give us a struggle between all and reactionary ruling class. It instead represents this class. The realist view is much simpler about liberal hypocrisy, where for the West it's pretty much realism for me and liberalism for thee. This is exemplified in the post cold war world, where NATO and the USSR reconciled only for one of these to disband and the other to expand. Liberals have such incisive things to say about empires, unless it's theirs. You can see the implications this has with unipolarity and its crisis.
>>565423India wasn't the Jewel in the Crown of Britain because Hindus were good customers. And Brittania did not rule the waves, because they were bad at imperialism.
Being another dumping ground for capitalist overproduction is just one piece of imperialism. The other two are labour and resources. This flow of capital, which still takes place primarily over water, necessitates garrisons in chokepoints around trade routes (Gibraltar, Suez, Malacca, South Africa, Panama, South China Sea) and the largest Navy in the world to guard it.
>>565422It's not about you personally as an individual anon, calm down.
>>565426Yes, I don't disagree with you, I would say that we are talking about a tool and it is a question of who is wielding it. I do not see that a shared tool that leads to similar shared perceptons makes them somehow 'based'. We should be clear about who this,
to be melodramatic and fun about it the class enemy.
>>565427>India wasn't the Jewel in the Crown of Britain because Hindus were good customers. And Brittania did not rule the waves, because they were bad at imperialism.That would be securing access to foreign commodities at a discount part. Where US actions in Ukraine has multiped the cost of raw inputs to industries across the board for the west.
> This flow of capital, which still takes place primarily over water, necessitates garrisons in chokepoints around trade routes (Gibraltar, Suez, Malacca, South Africa, Panama, South China Sea) and the largest Navy in the world to guard it.That Ukraine only facilities by allowing Russian commodities flow from the west to Russia and vice versa. With Russia not trading with the west, Ukraine is no significant strategic importance to the US Empire.
>>565424hot take: let Poland have the western nazi-infested area
it will sour the relations between polish fashoids and ukraine fashoids, and Poland will be the one who have to deal with banderite maniacs who want to genocide the polish
>>565427>because they were bad at imperialism.they were pretty successful at it tho
>>565460What's even funnier about this is that even if the US did put together some kind of new Marshall Plan, it'd still fuck the west over because it'd create an enormous number of job openings at low levels in society, which would immediately create a large upward force on wages, which would drive inflation home even harder.
And thanks to the fun laws of supply and demand, China can import way more russian gas at drastically lower prices, which allows them to increase profit margins nicely without bothering their labor force's paychecks in the least
>>565460>America's too inept and dysfunctional to put out another Marshall PlanAmerica seem to be deliberately vassalizing Europe. They not only don't want a new Marshall Plan, they're in effect undoing the old one now that there's no red menace to keep them from placing chains on Europe.
I think that we have been so used to America propping up the old European powers post-WW2 and treating them as allies that we forgot that this was conditional. Spookery about muh Hwite race aside, America ultimately only treated the old powers like allies because attempting to vassalize them back then would be tantamount to throwing them into the USSR's arms. This risk disappeared after 1991, but still Western liberalism and capitalism were on the rise, which is no longer the case. So it's time to downgrade Western Europe from allies to vasals.
>>565466Yugoslavia
Iraq
Lybia
retard
>>565463>raising the wages of workers causes inflationI doubt that very much. Historically inflation correlates with declining wages.
I think that capitalists spending the surplus generated by society on stupid things like wars that don't pan out and non-productive luxury production for the ruling class, causes inflation.
If workers have more spending power in the market because of higher wages the capitalists will be "incentivized" to spend more of societal surplus in productive avenues like investing in the advancement of productive forces. If the means of production are advanced that lowers the cost of production and reduces prices of goods.
if workers have higher wages governments get more tax revenue that they can use to improve infrastructure, social services and scientific research. All of those things increase the efficiency of society, which will also reduce the cost of production.
>>565467>YugoslaviaThere was already a war, and idk if air campaign counts as full scale invasion.
>Iraqlol when?
>LybiaNo fly zone isn't a full scale invasion
>retardNATO taking part in Retard genocide of 1962 should never be forgiven.
>>565289Terror bombing doesn't work. The only impact this has on the war is maybe slightly delaying some logistics of supplies getting to the front. The other effect is has is making Ukraine look like insane monsters to the rest of the world.
So this is just a net loss for Ukraine, They used car bombs, and seemingly accomplished nothing of real value other than looking like cartoon villains.
>>565468>Iraq and Afghanistan?When did NATO invade either of them. I hate taking their side on this but you are absolutely misguided.
>Clinton was about to invade Yugoslavia in 1999Possible, but didn't happen. Also, Clinton wasn't the boss of NATO, but the president of US, so wtf are you talking about. Do you somehow think NATO and US are interchangeable rather than two related but very different entities?
>>565466>it hasn't happened before so it will never happenthe current situation is unprecedented. US hegemony is being challenged in a way it hasn't been since the end of the Cold War and NATO is just a US empire org in international clothes. Different situations will produce different actions. Things it didn't need to do before become necessary as situations change.
This reminds me a bit of the few morons itt who were saying russia wasn't able to escalate any more in ukraine bc they would have done it already if they could.
>>565472All NATO countries gleefully supported the invasion of Iraq
Tens of thousands of bombs on Yugoslavia and Lybia arent an invasion because the boots on the ground arent NATO isnt a good argument.
>>565470Increasing wages means that the cost rises somewhere, one way or another. If the market plays itself out just as a result of widespread job openings, then it'll result in inflation. Whether that's a good thing or not depends on other factors. Declining wages will correlate with inflation when supply shocks happen. In Europe's case, we're seeing both happening at the same time.
The crux of what you're suggesting is that effectively something is going to have to intervene to stop the natural development of market forces else you follow the iron law of wages.
>>565490nah, it works by today standards. When you said here
>>565489 >Increasing wages means that the cost rises somewherewhat you didn't see is that the bourgeoisie instead of increasing production, which would create more jobs and wealth, prefer to hoard that new capital by doing less work and increasing prices.
capitalist theory literally says
fuck man, increase production to cope with higher demands in practice that doesn't happen.
>rybar:
🇷🇺🇺🇦💡 Attacks of the Russian Armed Forces on the energy system of Ukraine
by the end of October 10, 2022
In the morning of October 10, the RF Armed Forces launched massive missile attacks on energy facilities in the eastern, central and western regions of Ukraine.
12 hours after the attack, Rybar's team analyzed data from open sources and clarified the list of objects that were reliably hit by fire:
▪️Kyiv: Kyiv CHPP-5, CHPP-6, Darnytska CHPP, Vokzalnaya SS 110 kV, Trypilska TPP.
▪️Zhytomyr: Substation Zhytomyr 330/110 kV.
▪️Khmelnitsky: Substation Khmelnitskaya 330/110 kV.
▪️Ternopil: Substation Ternopil 330/110/35 kV.
▪️Lviv: Lvovskaya CHPP-1, Substation Lvov-Yuzhnaya 330/220/110 kV.
▪️Ivano-Frankivsk: Burshtynska TPP.
▪️Sumy: Substation Konotop 330 kV.
▪️Poltava: Substation Kremenchug 330/154/35/10 kV.
▪️Dnipropetrovsk: Pridneprovskaya TPP.
▪️Kryvyi Rih: Kryvyi Rih TPP.
▪️Kharkiv: CHPP-5, Zmievskaya TPP, Zalyutino substation 330/110/35 kV.
❓What conclusions can be drawn from the results of strikes?
🔻The target of the attack was the main thermal power plants and combined heat and power plants, as well as substations with a voltage level of 330kV.
🔻Not a single blow was inflicted on 750 kV voltage facilities, and even more so - nuclear and hydroelectric power plants. This clearly demonstrates that the raid did not pursue the total destruction of the unified energy system, but the infliction of limited damage to it.
🔻However, even in this case, the massive missile attack of the RF Armed Forces left entire regions and million-plus cities without electricity for half a day. It showed the vulnerability of the energy system of Ukraine to the strikes of the RF Armed Forces and the inability of the Ukrainian air defense to repel such attacks.
❓Could more be done? Undoubtedly
The October 10 attack was relatively humane and affected far from all critical infrastructure facilities. Already tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, power engineers will assemble emergency circuits at substations and turn on nuclear power plant generators to the maximum. After that, the authorities in Kyiv will come up with victorious reports about the complete restoration of electricity supply.
There is just one caveat: the strikes greatly reduced the reliability of the Ukrainian energy system. And with a high probability, it will not survive another such raid: the unified network will fall apart and turn into separate small areas-islands around power plants. The rest of the country will simply plunge into darkness.
❗️ Let's repeat again: if the goal is to overload the energy system of Ukraine for prolonged panic among the population, a drop in the moral and psychological state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and victory on the battlefield, then such actions must be repeated.
>>565494>multiple 330/110kVHOLLY WACAMOLE.
we are talking about very large sub-stations, damn the size of those transformers is Brobdingnagian.
yep, years to restore the full capacity.
>>565496🤔 yeah, but the point still is the same. inflation will not be caused by those jobs, but by lazy ass capitalists.
Let me tell you, many, not all of them, are a one-trick pony:
fewer wages? cut production, raise prices.
more wages? raise price. keep production where it is.
>>565494PUTIN HAS HARDENED HIS HEART
NO COMPROMISE OR CONCEDING WITH THE WEST
ONLY DESTRUCTION
>>565522so what iron felix is anti-ukraine gang now?
I never got what his deal was when i lurked the threads
>>565540i wanted Putin to fight like Stalin.
anyway, Ochakiv is the Khinzal target, this is Ukrop navy HQ
>>565584This is what zero hair does to a motherfucker.
Anyway, I think he understands something his predecessors failed to understand: displays of force all over Ukraine, even if they have zero military ramifications whatsoever (which isn't the case here), are how you fuck Ukros up in the information war and tamp down on their morale. Every time Zelensky has to address such attacks, he has to do so from a position of weakness.
>>565586 (me)
Likewise, that strike on the cosmetics warehouse was more of an info op than a military op. It will probably have a chilling effect. I don't necessarily condone it, but I understand the thinking.
>>565585>a birthdayhe has several a year?
wow
https://www.hstoday.us/featured/isis-praises-devastation-in-ukraine-accuses-west-of-defaming-putin-and-welcomes-great-war-ahead/ISIS Praises Devastation in Ukraine, Accuses West of Defaming Putin, and Welcomes ‘Great War’ Ahead
The terror group called the suffering and war divine intervention and a "great sign," while claiming West is spreading "lies and fabrications" about Russian president.
NATO bootlickers who were celebrating, making memes about death of people in LPR, DPR and attack on Crimean bridge are all of sudden worried about "muh hooman rights" when Ukrainazis are getting rekt… fucking KEK. Love to see imperialist bootlickers finally seething so hard
>>565585Birth of a legend 😎
>>565615Chicken Kiev?
More like Chyickyin Kyiv, amirite?
>>565629I hope he gets converted into minced meat should he turn out a real person
Elensky, pls deliver
>>565629>>565630wow, looks like twitter is letting them fabricate join dates for these NAFO accounts. I looked for web archive wayback machine urls for this one, and found nothing before this year, but back in march the page
https://twitter.com/bn880 was archived and had nothing on it. so it went years in hibernation with zero tweets, no profile pic, etc, and then was suddenly "activated"
https://web.archive.org/web/20220315062631/https://twitter.com/bn880 >>565631absolute possible but you can also rename accounts right?
Maybe he sold shitcoins before and the botnet just changed hands
>>565642>Yes but they never planned on destroying the USdidn't suggest such a thing nor would i
>they thought they would just win in the endI don't think they were certain of anything, they tried really hard given the circumstances.
>>565651>Why were there not soviet soldiers fighting against American soldiers in Vietnam,ummmmmm
I am not sure about that, pal.
>>565647>in general, I start to get 4chan: the louder the enemy cries the more hurt he is, the more he feels found outThis is generally true of reactoids. You know Goebbels' infamous words about le jew? "The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”" This applies perfectly to fashoids far more than to anyone else. No one feigns hurt like a fashoid who is called what it is, he almost always works in dissimulated manner, only pushing things as hard as he can without bringing them any consequences. Working from safety, slowly degrading the definitions of words, the weight of the law, the social fabric, one rat bite at a time. Reactionaries have always been the subversive side, and the fact that we catch the blame is the proof.
>>565656I mean the world is all action and reaction, thats materialist as well. It does apply to fascists especially and they do edging for edging sake (then being surprised when it tuns out more than a joke cause Hitler isnt 'ironic', there was a famous conversation when the NSDAP found that out)
that doesnt mean that the enemy in general will answer powerlessness with anger. If anything, anger allowed us to hunt that tiger although we felt powerless
tldr: anger is a natural response to powerlessness
>>565660 (me)
This guy was so much of a nazi, apparently, he even accused Vlasov of being a Bolshevik sympathizer. Was interned by the British, handed over to the USSR and executed in prison.
>>565660>implying there's a difference between Whites and Nazi collaboratorswew
also what the fuck is that monstrosity of an emblem? it looks like a million medieval weapons and farming implements half-melted together, with a comical amount of flags to boot
>>565658Naturally. What I meant to say is that the overwhelming majority of reactoids only act when, and to the degree that, they feel completely safe. What made Mussolini, Hitler and their like dangerous is that they were among the very, very few reactoids who actually had balls to be open about their inhumanity. That encouraged the normally craven mob behind them to act beyond the borders of complete safety,greatly accelerating their job of degrading civilization. That's why charismatic fascist leaders ought to be put down as soon as they're spotted.
>>565668I agree with you :). Since my concentration isnt the best today I only added my comment to where I wanted to expand it, but theres no disagreeing from my side at all
Have a good morning!
>>565648This is what turned me into a "tankie". It really isn't in my nature but the reality is that every socialist movement that tried to do polite reform was murdered if it couldn't be bought.
No mercy for the bastards!
>>565674articles links broken down by country
https://archive.ph/etIzN the google map is embeded in this article
https://archive.ph/HGqcx >>5656692007, unfortunately, built on land belonging to a businessman named Melikhov (pictured). People complained to the Rostov Oblast prosecutor's office, which filed a case, but lost in court because "it's on le private land". Memorial was opened with the attendance of cossacks, clerics and other public figures. A (sanctified) cross is the central part of the composition, which made the church protest against attempts to remove, and Melikhov argued that the monument isn't related to WW2, but only the Civil War.
>>565665Oh yeah, that paragraph is kinda lib, I didn't read much into it lol. The Forward should know better too, since those "anti-Bolshevik but not Nazi" warlords still organized pogroms and blamed the Judeo-Bolsheviks for overthrowing the tsar.
>>565674https://forward.com/news/462648/how-many-monuments-honor-fascists-nazis-and-murderers-of-jews-youll-be/ >>565680Did they remember to say Putin's
TOTALLY UNJUSTIFIED war in Ukraine? If they didn't I'm pretty sure that's a fine.
>>565682 me
That shit makes me kek every time I hear it. Why you gotta keep saying it every breath. Sus as fuck. How can anyone hear it and not think: "Well there must be some justification if they keep shilling like this."
>>565669"One of the most internationally respected Cossack leaders and the founder of two anti-Bolshevik resistance museums".
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/for-don-cossacks-russia-s-civil-war-is-not-yet-over/>>565675Hey, I remember how bullshit it was that Poland doesn't have a single pin in that map.
>>565682Surprisingly they didn't. I am so used to hearing it though.
>unjustified Russian invasionLike do you really have to always preface it with that?
Also "illegal annexation". I fucking get it, stop repeating it so much.
Also "Russian sanctions", which actually means "american sanctions" but we live in 1984 george orwell pre-bunked society and debating this means you're an RT shill.
>>565706so it looks like Russia's going to try and force victory via nationwide blackout to coincide with winter.
Also I'm still confused why they're doing all this without declaring a anti-terrorist operation.
>>565707>without declaring a anti-terrorist operationfrom what i gathered on this board, changing the status of the operation isn't done by decree but different institutions would have to be involved to let such a change pass.
given its possible to achieve strategical and operationals goals of the operation with the operation being in its current status - why change it then.
>>565707>without declaring a anti-terrorist operationwheres the difference between a special and an anti terrorist one?
Declare a fucking war with all its consequences - including the strict need of following the "rules"
>>565723Western ukraine is getting bombed. Electricity systems in shambles. Entire regions dark.
Not many dead so far.
>>565706>Russia apparently now targetting 750 kV lines lol, Rybar will be pleased.
That bald mofo really played the "give them false hope" card, eh?
This is a refresher for the events of 2021, over a year ago now, which precipitated the Ukraine crisis. Tldr US imperialism sought to extend security guarantees to Ukraine to help it get around a frozen conflict and strategically pressure Russia, which would disrupt eurasian integration and its pull on Europe. This is in part a product of liberals coming to power in the US, who felt like war with Russia was the way to deal with the crisis of liberal hegemony promised to them after the 20th century.
Too lazy to green text all of this
>On February 3, 2021, Zelensky shut down three pro-Russian TV channels controlled by Viktor Medvedchuk, Putin’s man in Ukraine. Medvedchuk had been the backchannel between Kyiv and Moscow for many years. Zelensky signed a decree accusing Medvedchuk of financing terrorism and froze his assets. In May, he was accused of treason and placed on house arrest. This move against an oligarch close to the Kremlin — Putin is the godfather of Medvedchuk’s youngest daughter — was seen by Moscow as a major escalation. Putin warned that Ukraine was turning into “a kind of anti-Russia.”Zelensky’s heart must’ve fluttered a little bit when Biden called Putin a “killer” in March. The administration imposed new sanctions on Russia in April; formally blaming Russian intelligence for the cyber-espionage attack (the SolarWinds hack). Sanctioned individuals and organizations included those accused of interfering in the US election. Washington also condemned the arrest of Navalny. Earlier, US intelligence had concluded that Russian intelligence had paid the Taliban to attack US personnel in Afghanistan. Putin issued a stark warning in response to US moves: “Washington must realize that it will pay for the degradation of bilateral relations.”
As a show of force, Putin massed forces on the border. According to Kyiv, Moscow had massed some 100,000 troops on the border. The divisions were soon ordered back, however, for reasons that are not entirely clear — perhaps because Biden agreed to meet with Putin. Their meeting would take place in June. Ahead of the great power meeting, on May 6, Secretary Blinken visited Ukraine, where he declared that the US will “make sure that Ukraine can defend itself.”
But the revolution in US Ukraine policy had not yet begun in earnest. At this stage, the Europeans were not keen on taking a hard line against Moscow. In Germany, CDU’s candidate for German Chancellor, Laschet, pointed out that “North Rhine-Westphalia contains 1,200 companies that have traded with or invested in Russia.” Two years earlier, Macron had warned that “pushing Russia far from Europe is a profound mistake.” As late as August 22, Merkel was still declaring “Russia cannot use Nord Stream 2 pipeline as a ‘weapon’.”
Although Washington had opposed the pipeline, the US reached a truce with Germany: in exchange for Washington’s green light on Nord Stream 2, Berlin promised to impose sanctions if the pipeline “was used to threaten the energy security of American allies in the region” [emphasis mine]. The language was clearly meant to reassure Zelensky that the northern pipeline, by reducing reliance on the pipelines going through Ukraine, would not increase Russian leverage against Kyiv.
While the State department was finalizing the deal with the Germans, American and German intelligence uncovered yet another case of the Havana Syndrome — believed to be the handiwork of Russian intelligence — this time in Germany. This may have been the last straw that pushed the United States to finally commit to issuing a de facto security guarantee to Ukraine. In any case, something quite dramatic must have happened in August because US policy on Ukraine and Russia was completely upended in a matter of days or weeks.
To get a sense of this revolution in US Ukraine policy, note that Zelensky had long asked to visit the White House. All of a sudden, his request was approved. Zelensky was told to visit the White House almost immediately on September 1, 2021. As an analyst without access to informed insiders, I can only guess. But members of the press with contacts in the administration need to find out what exactly triggered the reversal of US Ukraine policy in August. Why was Zelensky suddenly invited to the White House? The answer to that question is crucial to pinning down the origins of the Ukraine war.
What happened then was simply not understood by external observers. As late as the day before the Biden-Zelensky summit, the FT announced that “Ukraine feels the chill of Biden’s foreign policy.” In reality, the administration had already decided that Ukraine was to be fully incorporated into a tight military alliance with the United States. This is the gist of the decision relayed by Biden to Zelensky on September 1. By November, the paperwork was ready. The United States and Ukraine signed an explicit agreement that extended US security guarantees to Ukraine.
The US-Ukraine Charter on Strategic Partnership laid out the goal as Ukraine’s “full integration into European and Euro-Atlantic institutions” — the latter being a euphemism for Nato. In the Munk debate, the liberal hegemonist side had declared that there were no plans to bring Ukraine into Nato — the 2008 Bucharest declaration was just for show. They were either ill-informed or simply lying. For all intents and purposes, Ukraine had been declared a US protectorate by the Biden administration. Nato or not, US credibility was most certainly now on the line in Ukraine.
>As Bill Burns stated in his autobiography, incorporating Ukraine into Washington’s security orbit had long been “the reddest of red lines” for Russia. Washington had quite deliberately and openly challenged the Kremlin. Putin’s choice at this point was to either accept this fait accompli or go to war.https://policytensor.substack.com/p/the-origins-of-the-ukraine-warOops said picrel and forgot the pic.
>>565731Beg NATO to save him some more.
>>565726What do you bet all the misses were the fault of their shitty air defense.
>picrelNot fair Russia! You are supposed to send missiles one at a time!
>>565738>Mentions Spanish empire being bled awayMost like it was slit throat since the metropole had from an invasion from the french, a civil war. an invasion from the english to a liberal revolution in those years. Incapacitating expeditions.
Burgers themselves have some geography that protect them from this, although for sales they exploit this fear.
Western, liberal MSM cycle is so predictable and tiresome.
>Ukraine gets a win>Glory to Ukraine! Moscow by Christmas! Russians are stupid and incompetent!>Russia gets a win>War crime! Genocide! They are killing civilians.Look at this article based on the current liberal narrative:
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-claimed-striking-ukrainian-military-targets-video-shows-crater-park-2022-10Russia says its missiles hit Ukrainian military targets, but videos of a burning crater in a Kyiv park paint a very different picture>After the attacks, Russian President Vladimir Putin claimed the strikes were directed solely at Ukrainian military, energy, and communications targets and were carried out in retaliation for a recent blast on a key Crimean bridge serving as a critical supply line, Russian state media reported.
>Videos and photographs captured by journalists show an entirely different situation, one in which Russian munitions landed in civilian areas.
>Wall Street Journal reporter Matthew Luxmore posted one video taken in central Kyiv's Shevchenko Park showing a massive crater filled with rubble and small fires directly adjacent to a playground. If you launch dozens of rockets and only one of them hits a civilian area, this means that they all hit a civilian area.
>>565732A bunch of people were mocking Le Maire online because of his not-so-subtle "lmao just wear a sweater this winter" PSA campaign on [BIRB]. Still waiting for Gilets Jaunes 2.0, which shouldn't be long hopefully.
>>565742>>565744The coping and seething in Western MSM after Russia wins will be glorious.
>>565744>>565745I've been saying this from the start. Once Russia wins, the cope will be "Russia didn't kill every single Ukrainian or annex the whole of Ukraine, which was their goal, therefore Russia lost, Ukraine won".
Ukraine might also claim TD casualties as civilian deaths to keep the number of military losses low. This makes me think that while Western liberals can be fooled by articles, you cannot fool Ukrainian mothers, wives and sisters. I am predicting there will be mass protests and unrest once the war is done because Ukraine has not been publishing any casualty numbers.
By some estimates, over 100.000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed so far. That number will increase once Russia decides to increase artillery attacks in preparation of liberating the rest of the annexed territories. There is no reason to think Ukraine won't use the same defensive tactics of filling trenches with inexperienced recruits and using unmotorised, unarmoured infantry without air support, armed with NLAWs, MANPADs, Javelins as defense against Russian helicopters, tanks, IFVs.
>>565753>armed with NLAWs, MANPADs, Javelins They're about to run out of those.
From April:
>The United States has supplied Ukraine with thousands of Javelins, the anti-tank missiles that have become the iconic weapon of the war, but the U.S. inventory is dwindling. The United States has probably given about one-third of its stock to Ukraine. Thus, the United States is approaching the point where it must reduce transfers to maintain sufficient stockpiles for its own war plans. Production of new missiles is slow, and it will take years to replenish stocks.https://www.csis.org/analysis/will-united-states-run-out-javelins-russia-runs-out-tanks We just got government recommendation to buy iodine for every household here in Finland.
Not sure what to feel.
https://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/art-2000009125190.html>From Ukrainian Telegram:
Our source reports that urgent meetings were held in the Office of the President, the Government and the Ministry of Energy of Ukraine on the topic of ongoing missile attacks on strategic infrastructure, which threatens to collapse in the energy sector. Cases of preventing emergencies, shutting down the entire energy system, the impact of the energy case on the logistics of the army, how this will affect factories and workshops for the repair and modernization of military equipment were discussed, and in general, a wide range of questions were raised, what are the consequences for Ukraine if everything is “turned off”.
Power engineers gave disappointing forecasts.
In a negative scenario, everything in the country will stop. Banks, servers, communications, TV, logistics, etc. The shadow economy will grow. This is a loss of up to 70% of the country's income per month (about UAH 100 billion). The hryvnia will collapse (from 50 to 100 UAH per dollar), hyperinflation will accelerate prices to space.
Now only about 15% of the total system is damaged, which is expensive, but really fixable. If the attacks continue monotonously, then the percentage will increase, and when 60% damage is reached, the system may “cover up”. It all depends on what kind of "pain points" of the energy system, the Russians will hit.
The loss of the energy system will lead to a shortage of fuel. A deeper and more protracted fuel crisis will begin.
In short, everything is bad.
Solution: about a hundred air defense installations, and this is about $ 20 billion, just to try to cover important energy facilities, and even then not 100%.
>>565762So uh, are they gonna stop fortifying food with it or what?
Imagine the average I.Q. drop from Iodine deficiency.
>Aleksandr Doogin:
We have been fighting desperately for eight months now, spilling rivers of blood, losing many lives, including innocent ones, breaking all ties and agreements, taking risks, advancing, retreating, striking, taking blows, and already terrorist attacks on Russian territory have become the norm, and each new attack is getting nastier and harsher, and everyone has the strange feeling that we are waiting for something… A kind of red line… Everything that could be crossed has been crossed. In the current situation it is neither possible to surrender nor to negotiate. Either we will win and victory will be total, or we will lose and then we will not even be allowed to open our mouths. We are not waiting for anything. There is nothing to wait for.
>>565784>>565784Ukrainian telegram channel:
Someone explain to NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg that by making statements that the victory of the Russian Federation in the conflict with Ukraine will be the defeat of NATO, he indirectly confirms the direct participation of the Western military alliance in this game, and also gives the Russians an excellent public trump card to relay this message to their audience , as evidence that the Russian Federation is at war with NATO.
Is it really so bad with the support of the Ukrainian crisis within NATO that such a message had to be voiced directly.
>>565747>>565748weebs and neets
The true chan army.
>>565804Moscow reveals results of new strikes on UkraineNew missile strikes targeting Ukrainian military command and control sites and the country’s energy infrastructure were conducted on Tuesday, the Russian Defense Ministry reported during a daily briefing.
The attacks hit all intended targets and “achieved their goals,” the military claimed.
Earlier in the day, Ukrainian officials and media reported more Russian long-range attacks in a rerun of Monday’s strikes.
Andrey Sadovoy, the mayor of the city of Lvov in western Ukraine, said his city faced another blackout due to the damage inflicted by Russia.
“A missile strike at a critical infrastructure object” had left some 30% of Lvov without power, the official reported on social media. He added that there were issues with the water supply in the city and urged residents to stockpile for possible cuts.
In Vinnitsa Region in central Ukraine, the head of the administration, Sergey Borzov, reported drone attacks on a local power station, but later edited his post to a more neutral report of “explosions” in his region. The operator of the Ladyzhin coal-fired power plant confirmed damage to its equipment in a drone raid on Tuesday morning.
Reports of Russian missiles being engaged by Ukrainian air defenses came from the regions of Kiev, Odessa, and Vinnitsa. In the Rovno and Krivoy Rog regions, people on social media reported blasts on the ground, presumably caused by Russian strikes.
The barrages came a day after almost all major regions of Ukraine came under a massive aerial assault. The Ukrainian military claimed to have intercepted roughly half of the missiles, but nevertheless 11 key sites all across the country were damaged, according to the Ukrainian government.
Moscow targeted Ukrainian power plants and other critical facilities after what Russian President Vladimir Putin called a series of “terrorist attacks” orchestrated by Ukrainian special services on Russian soil.
The latest of them involved blowing up a truck laden with explosives on the Crimean Bridge, a strategic Russian link. Russian investigators reported on Saturday that at least three civilians were killed by the blast, but the number may be as high as six, given that three people are reportedly still missing, according to the Telegram-based news outlet 112.
Putin said Kiev’s tactics could not be left without a response and argued that Kiev had exposed its energy sector to Russian strikes by trying for months to sabotage key Russian infrastructure.
Kiev’s foreign backers condemned Russia’s attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure, in contrast to the muted reaction to the incident on the Russian bridge. The White House on Sunday declined to comment on the bridge blast and pledged continued military support of Ukraine.
https://www.rt.com/russia/564467-russia-strikes-ukraine-goals-achieved/ >>565814no, it's more fun when everyone is horny
besides you clicked on it, some people are posting fucking cannibal shit in this thread and you complain about trap alunya?
>>565814You say that when anon above
>>565806 posted that horny shit unspoilered.
>>565823 (me)
>>565820The D-1 is related to aDnipro-1 dettachments, I am sure, but doesn't seem your traditional dettachment, perhaps one created recently.
>>565825And production can and will be INCREASED
Potato socialism adapted to national conditions is a direct continutation of Marx-Engels thought and the path to communism for the people of Korea-Belarus
>>565846 Thanks comr8
>>565844 I still love shibas. NAFOshit is just the Doge meme being reskinned ad infinitum until its deader than Bandera.
>>565832>Cuckrainian complaining about muh vidya in times of war>"I'd rather read books"Meanwhile Cuckraine:
<made STALKER, a loose adaptation from Roadside Picnic and Tarkovsky's Stalker, once again relying on the Soviet legacy it reviles so much<some GSC staff are Banderites fantasizing about killing le Russiangolian Asiatic hordes or whatever fucking bullshit fantasy they are being force-fed by their US masters<a DLC level of Metro Last Light is literally about being a Nazi juggernaut and fulfilling this fantasy<a good amount of Nazis who want to do it IRL, probably LARPing as that level's character<would perform book burning like the good little nazoids they are<majority of normie gaymers online who care about politics are NPCs who support the current thing (ie Cuckraine)Anything else I missed?
>>565852They're basically long-range SAMs?
>>565849then you don't know what could possibly make you dislike shiba inus to someone else.
>>565852oh, so this is what they said they were going to send? shitty piece of equipment.
>>565858the counterpart is that the S-300 of ukraine hasn't received maintenance and upgrades since ever. it is a upgrade, but not even close to the overwhelming capabilities of cruise missiles. not even talking about the kinzhals.
>>565858Thank you, I'm not very knowledgeable on US equipment TBH.
>(actually could be a good meme comparison tbh)Well then, I guess it's time for me to reopen GIMP. Where can I find some good info on both? Glowiepedia aside ofc
>>565862Best alunya ive seen in a while.
Does anyone have girunya saved?
>>565868On it.
>>565869Hmm… maybe I'd wait a little for more info on the performance of those before trying then. But I'll see.
>>565870>wait a little for more info on the performance of those before trying then Yeah I guess that's a good idea, too bad.
But you could compare the Gepard to the Shilka in a couple weeks since 15 Gepards will be delivered along with 59k rounds soon
https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/gepard-panzer-109.html Unique IPs: 178