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Nunca, nunca
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>>567286Frouxonaro
Brochonaro
Fraconaro
>>567367Na pesquisa interna do PT de ontem, Tarcísio está tecnicamente empatado com Haddad.
Milícia: 48,2%
Professor: 47,5%
>>567369Depois da bomba do primeiro turno acho difícil acreditar em pesquisa
O miliciano provavelmente tem mais de 50
>>567390E um fio longo sobre Tarcísio. Quem for de São Paulo, spameie isto até o cu fazer bico.
https://nitter.kavin.rocks/FumacaSinal/status/1585705593959944193De brinde, um fato bem reprsentativo da natureza golpista da LJ.
>>567410Pudera. 4 anos de orçamento de um país pra roubar, parceria com o crime organizado, união virtualmente total da direita e centro (com o perdão da redundância) e apoio até da CIA e de outros reaças estrangeiros, e
isso é o melhor que eles conseguiram montar. Tem que ser muito burro pra topar entrar nessa furada.
>>567413Sim, o Bosto é um merda incompetente, mas o poder político de Lula não é de se subestimar. Sem ele estaríamos fudidos.
E da próxima vez não tem ele.
>>567310>>567305I keep hearing the names Janones and Tarcísio
Can someone please explain who they are?
>>567432Tarcísio is Bolsonaro's governor candidate for São Paulo, a man from Rio de Janeiro who knows nothing about the state he's supposed to spearhead. Recently he staged a shootout to gather pity votes, but it turns out we now know it was staged and that a person died for it. His adversary is Lula's candidate, Haddad, who's a university professor and has plenty of published works on Marxism.
Janones is a congressman who's basically Lula's mad dog in this election. He has a crazy big social media presence and can put attention on/get attention away from any subject, so he's great at countering fake news or even sometimes making his own while taking the brunt of the backlash while Lula is unscathed. And yes, it does get kind of crazy, but at least he's on our side.
Parenti's work being transslated to Portuguese.
To Kill A Nation is first.
https://nitter.kavin.rocks/LivdaVinci/status/1585384025174462464O ex-amigo do clã, que entregou o celular do Bebianno pra campanha do Lula.
>>567507Calma que ainda tem chance de impetração mesmo depoiss de eleita.
>>567514Caralho, que diferença com oss números suspeitamente altos que os vídeos normais do BP produzem. Bem interessante.
Pode anotar: esses arrombados esqueceram de colocar a horda de bots dele pra inflar os números dessse canal. A audiência deless não é alta como eles propagam, nem de longe. Eu sempre falo que a direita sempre usa uma maioria ilusória pra parecer ser mais numerossa do que é e que a internet facilita em muito esssa tática, e no caso de sites como YT, isso ainda tem motivos diretos de lucro. Inflar a audiência reverte em lucro, e digo mais, ajuda a encobrir pagamentos suspeitos de patrões gringos (aposto que eles recebem grana da Atlas Foundation) e a lavar dinheiro.
>>567503Não tiro a razão da sua dúvida de ver uma parte considerável do establishment internacional apoiando o Lula, mas isso se deve – antes de tudo – de ele ser um desgraçado de um político esperto e ter driblado fulminantemente o Bozo em termos de apoio no estrangeiro (tarefa que por si só, não é particularmente difícil).
>>567546>LuluO presidente que eu quero pro Brasil.
lel
https://nitter.kavin.rocks/SamuelLJackson/status/1586014086780813313Os atores tem feito uns posts em português pra promover a eleição do Squidman, a liberalzada e os bots estão pirando nos comentários.
Bolsonaro precisa ler a bíblia.
5 - E, quando orares, não sejas como os hipócritas; pois se comprazem em orar em pé nas sinagogas, e às esquinas das ruas, para serem vistos pelos homens. Em verdade vos digo que já receberam o seu galardão.
6 - Mas tu, quando orares, entra no teu aposento e, fechando a tua porta, ora a teu Pai que está em secreto; e teu Pai, que vê em secreto, te recompensará publicamente.
Em que consste que Diogo Mainardi foi um dos pouquíssimos reaças a demonsstrar qualquer arrependimento.
>>567638Não foi pergunta, foi afirmação de um simples fato: ele mentiu sobre o Complexo do Alemão.
É muito fácil fazer a direita trissômica perder o compasso. A grande mídia não faz porque não quer, é parte da normalização da barbárie.
>>567645Eu nem sabia que o PT um dia pretendeu reesstatizá-la…
>>567710huehue
estão tentando até emplacar um "CARLA EU AUTORIZO" sem sucesso
incrível como eles lidaram muito, mas muito mal no instante que alguém passou a usar as táticas deles contra eles. eles perdem muito fácil o compasso, uma esquerda enérgica e agressiva teria comido eles com feijão
>>567710>>567715>>567718>>567720>>567722Mais um exemplo perfeito de caso "open-and-shut", como eu mencionei. Crime não só flagrado como filmado, em violação claríssima da letra e do espírito da lei, pra não falar em quebra de decoro e violações afins.
Não é exagero dizer que Lula conseguiria derrubar literalmente todos os parlamentares de centro e direita só fazendo valer a lei, um expurgo completamente legal.
Zambelli e Bob Jeff causando mais estrago que qualquer golpe de propaganda, roteirista tá ácido no humor.
>>567726They only go murder-crazy when the other side is unarmed and fearing for life, like you saw in video.
Otherwise, they're utter, spineless cowards.
>>567730>They only go murder-crazy when the other side is unarmed and fearing for life, like you saw in video.Otherwise, they're utter, spineless cowards.
Mais motivos pra Esquerda se armar em massa.
>>567757Pior que nesse caso ele foi, mas não é a toa, desde o incidente com o Bob Jeff que o Biroliro tá atordoado e com medo da própria sombra. Outra coisa é que toda vez que ele fala tem 500 bolsonaristas nos comentários dando engajamento para ele.
Agora temos outra bomba, resta saber se vão querer jogar a Zambelli pra cima do Lula também como tentaram com o outro. Mas acho que dessa não tem como o Bozo escapar.
Eu achei minha própria frase aqui
>>567777 peculiar a respeito do português brasileiro, e resolvi tacar no Google Translate pra ver com o que um gringo tentando decifrar nossas conversas se depararia.
>If Haddad wins, the scheme is to blame for this Zambelli Pombagira to share the corja.HUEHUEHUHEUHE
Eu achava difícil entender conversas russas usando tradutiores online, mas olha, perto do nosso português, deve ser fichinha.
>>567789Em inglês, seria
divide e não
share.
>>567794Pretty much I think. The VP has been behaving himself so far, but then again, recent history has taught us that they can and will turn on you at any moment.
Everything indicates that Lula will try to govern in the same manner he did the first time around, in a conciliatory and infuriatingly cucked manner. This ended in disaster during Dilma's term as the reactoids turned on her simply because they could, and it's a no-go from the start this time around. As far as I can see, Lula will have to get his hands dirty if he wants something like his conciliatory, uneventful first term, let alone undo the damage which has been done since then. Tho "dirty" here is a misnomer, because the center and right are so thoroughly devoid of any virtue that simply applying the criminal code would be tantamount to Red Terror – it's not an exaggeration to say that an actual anticorruption campaign would give the left 100% of Congressional seats. But he doesn't have the balls to do even that, he will likely just try to pay a ransom so they let him govern in peace and they will take the ransom and fuck him over anyway.
My vain hope is that he's hiding his power level so the worst elite in the world would accept his return instead of trying to force a coup to enthrone a literal retard, and then go hog-wild on their asses. His baffling choice of veep would be part of this. I incorrectly predicted that they would force the aforementioned enthronement of a retard simply because they could get away with it, and much to my surprise although they have supported Bozo to the end they have not gone all-in and have allowed Lula to play along. This would be much less likely had he been vocal about undoing the mountains of bullshit which Bozo did and punishing his partners-in-crime. Just the oppossite, he has been keeping promises and proposals to an absolute minimum. So if he ever entertained this idea of hiding his power level until he's perfectly place to enact his revenge, then it's all going according to keikaku. Odds of this happening are slim to none, but I like to nurture this theory for the sake of my peace of mind.
>>567799Milagre! O TSE fez algo!
A propóssito, a narrativa do circo a respeito disto é que o PT está comprando votos. Sim, O pt comprando votos na região onde ele ganha de lavada.
>>567808A fake news pra acompanhar: campanha de Lula recebe 985 milhões da
Nicarágua. Quase 1/14 de um ano do PIB deles!
https://lupa.uol.com.br/jornalismo/2022/10/29/falso-pf-apreendeu-r-985-milhoes-campanha-de-lula >Em Barcarena-Pa, os eleitores trajados de vermelho estão sendo impedidos de comprar passagem para vir a Belém votar. Um absurdo!!!https://nitter.kavin.rocks/vai_ness/status/1586709328601513986>URGENTE Estou recebendo diversos relatos de blitz da Polícia Militar pela região metropolitana do Rio sem sentido e causando mtos engarrafamentos.>Está em curso uma operação anti votação, já denunciei ao TSE mas temos q divulgar o máximo p/ todo mundo saber oq está acontecendo.https://nitter.kavin.rocks/rodrigomondego/status/1586722719583846401
>#Eleições2022 Polícia de Mato Grosso procura homem suspeito de colar teclas de urna eletrônicahttps://nitter.kavin.rocks/folha/status/1586723934250090497
>Por mim já há motivo pra se prender o chefe da PRF. Há pelo menos 3 barreiras, em claro desrespeito a ordem do Supremo e do TSEhttps://nitter.kavin.rocks/felipe_alr/status/1586728803950272515
>GRAVE: Recebemos denúncias que a Prefeitura de São Gonçalo/RJ cortou o transporte dentro do Complexo do Salgueiro. Eleitores estão tendo que sair a pé para irem aos seus locais de votação.https://nitter.kavin.rocks/CentralEleicoes/status/1586718103110619136
>GRAVE: Sindicato de empresas de ônibus do RJ apura denuncia de cobrança indevida de passagem>A Rio ônibus, sindicato que administra as empresas de ônibus do RJ, vai apurar denuncia de cobrança de passagem em linhas que circulam na região da Zona Oeste.https://nitter.kavin.rocks/CentralEleicoes/status/1586709650656952321
>CBTU DE BOLSONARO ESTÁ DESCUMPRINDO DECISÃO JUDICIAL E COBRANDO PASSAGEM NO METRÔ DE BHhttps://nitter.kavin.rocks/tarifazerobh/status/1586671141497802752Meus cumpanheiros, um pedido sincero. Se ouvirem ou lerem alguém dizer, ou sequer insinuar, que aguém à direita de Lula possui um mínimo de idoneidade ou republicanismo, mande eles à merda. Especialmente em se tratando do TSE. Não há uma viva alma à direita dele que merece existir. Aliás, não há uma alma à direita dele. Num país civilizado, Lula seria a pessoa mais à direita possível.
>>567866Correction: that already took place 2021
and 2020, both on Serptember 7. But Brazil has the absolute worst ruling class in the world, so the attempts were even shittier than Trump's and they still are free to keep trying.
Lula winning by an overwhelming margin in most foreign polling stations, as in the first round.
https://nitter.kavin.rocks/eixopolitico seems be tweeting about these fairly often.
>>567929>Lula is the CIA-approved oneThe glowies have yet to show their hand, even if we disregard the theory of Alckmin being inaugurated in 2024.
Nobody knows what the game will be after January 1st if Lula is elected.
>>567956I never said that. That was another poster. What I'm asking for is a single time CIA told the candidate they prefer to not do a coup
So for all i got is a guy somehow telling me that the usa didn't want Pinochet to do coups
>>567927All SocDems are CIA approved in order to prevent more radical movements from emerging, otherwise they wouldn't even be running for president in the first place. It's only when they outlive their usefulness or step too out of line that coups happen.
Now Venezuela and Bolivia are
somewhat able to prevent this thanks to the overwhelming mass support for the government and most importantly the level of worker organization they have in the form of trade unions and popular militias but movements like Lula, whose only goal is to elect one (1) guy are bound to go into hibernation mode IF they accomplish their goals or crash and burn if they don't.
>>567963If they really wanted bolsonaro to stay in power usa wouldn't give a shit if he does a coup since he's obviously behind on all the polling and will almost certainly lose if it's completed off just votes
You don't need to have a huge brain to see how aggressive Biden has himself been against bolsonaro often and clashed with him thru his presidency
>>567972and it was pretty easy to rangeban, too
retards need to up their game
The americans are not completely retarded, they will not bother further supporting some unpopular faggot
>To avoid what could have been a military confrontation in Manila between pro- and anti-Marcos troops, Marcos was advised by US President Ronald Reagan through Senator Paul Laxalt to "cut and cut cleanly".[48]>Despite holding an inauguration, Marcos and his family were already preparing to flee the country. At 5:00 a.m. on Tuesday morning, Marcos phoned United States Senator Paul Laxalt, asking for advice from the White House.[76] Laxalt advised him to "cut and cut clean", to which Marcos expressed his disappointment after a short pause. In the afternoon, Marcos talked to Minister Enrile, asking for safe passage for him, his family, and close allies such as General Ver.[77] He also asked Enrile if United States Ambassador Stephen Bosworth could assign a security escort for the Marcos family's departure.[78]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Marcoshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Power_RevolutionAnd continuing the twin trends of abject amorality and even more abject ineptitude, the media already has proof that today's cack-handed attempt to defraud elections by hindering traffic in the Northeast region was conceived not only by Bozo and his internal circle, but in a reunion literally inside the presidential palace itself.
https://noticias.uol.com.br/eleicoes/2022/10/30/operacao-prf-reuniao-alvorada.htmI would like to dig up my spiel from a thread or two back as to why we lose to such an incredibly stupid crowd: it's the system, stupid. We can't win because the system, which was designed from the ground up to act against us in the first place, has been completely deformed to reward evil to a comical degree. They win for the same reason that a car whose brake's have been cut can't break. That analogy seems redundant, and that's precisely my point: it's blatantly obvious why we don't win once you look at the system as, well, a system.
>>567988>>567986pikachu_surpreso.jpg
Vendo o povo no Twitter dizendo que o TSE se tornou cúmplice do golpe. Quanta inocência.
>>568024Mano, o Xandão não quer guerra civil
porque ele está do lado do Bolsonaro.
>>568068Não tem gráfico pra te deixar nóia.
Também dá pra clicar nos quadrados de cada estado pra mostrar os resultados de lá.
Looks like we're ahead of schedule compared to
>>568064>>568109Heads of governmnent from all over the world frequent the place.
>>568125No, he's not. Liberalism in the rest of the world means something completely different than in the US.
Bolsonaro's party is called Liberal Party by the way.
>>568130There is posters above saying that the election is so different than the usa when Lula is the same thing as boric in Chile. Liberals who will fall in line with the usa and not shake up the chess board while giving some progressives some stuff they like
No radical systemic change or path to socialism in any form
>>568138Lula is a liberal
What is a liberal to you?
>>568139>Lula is a liberalNo he isn't
>What is a liberal to you?Not what Americans think it is
>>568146Typing in Portuguese to feel special doesn't accomplish anything. This is like redditors trying to type in Spanish to stand out
If you believe Lula isn't a liberal make a case for it
>>568147Yes Lula is a liberal
He's definitely not a communist nor a socialist
>>568151>isn't a liberalHe literally is not?!
Liberal doesn't mean Social-Democrat fyi, and Bozo's party is called "Liberal Party"
>>568156The name of a party is irrelevant. You can call your party anything you want
Lula ideology is liberalism
>>568151Are you literally telling me to write in English, in the Brazilian general?
Fuck off
Lula isn't even a social democrat at this point. The crux of social democracy is fusing labor politics to liberal hegemony. He's a labor leader only in branding at this point.
>>568162 Yes. Arguably the most important thing about him. Anything that deviates from the Washington Census is a good thing and should be supported.
>>568169Excelente
>>568174Then you haven't experienced what economic liberalism is Mr. baiter
>>1245138>communist >EurasianismHAHAHAHAHAHA
Imagine licking dry the balls of all forms of reactorinary scum over the planet and still have the lack of self awareness to say this.
>>568151>Barges into the brazilian thread>Demands people to speak portugueseIncredible.
>>568169sorry the washington consensus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_ConsensusThe consensus as originally stated by Williamson included ten broad sets of relatively specific policy recommendations:[1][3]
>Fiscal policy discipline, with avoidance of large fiscal deficits relative to GDP;>Redirection of public spending from subsidies ("especially indiscriminate subsidies") toward broad-based provision of key pro-growth, pro-poor services like primary education, primary health care and infrastructure investment;>Tax reform, broadening the tax base and adopting moderate marginal tax rates;Interest rates that are market determined and positive (but moderate) in real terms;
Competitive exchange rates;
>Trade liberalization: liberalization of imports, with particular emphasis on elimination of quantitative restrictions (licensing, etc.); any trade protection to be provided by low and relatively uniform tariffs;>Liberalization of inward foreign direct investment;>Privatization of state enterprises;>Deregulation: abolition of regulations that impede market entry or restrict competition, except for those justified on safety, environmental and consumer protection grounds, and prudential oversight of financial institutions;>Legal security for property rights. >>568186If you mean, probability of a coup ebing attempted, it has been 100% for years now because he keeps trying and failing.
If you mean a successful coup, then each attempt has a ~0% chance of success but since he can and does keep trying he might actually succeed at some point I guess.
>>568189For money from the lobby and trade opportunities, and of course is a textbook mark that you are on the empire side.
Not so different as your socdem goverment belonging to Nato and refusing to boicot them of course
>>568196Yes Lula is a Democrat too. Everything is American politics.
Kill yourself.
>>568201The definition of what a liberal is has nothing do with a particular country
Lula is a liberal due it being his ideology
>>568209A party labeling itself "socialist" doesn't make it socialist.
The ideology and actions they take is what matters. You seem obsessed with titles parties use and take it as fact.
Lula is a liberal due his ideology.
>>568227The latter
The parliament is 80% Right-Wing
>>568230Then this is the nothingburger endind :c
But at least there will be support for a different world as the executive
>>568235Finalmente, state sponsored gfs.
Obrigado, pai Lula.
>>568254Digam adeus pras estaduais, pras ETECs, pra SABESP, etc…
Digam olá pras milícias, pra uma PM ainda mais corrupta e assassina, para a carioquização do estado
Mas Paulista merece, votaram por um verme miliciano ao invés do professor
>>568261Same thing happened with boric.
Lula won't challenge the usa on anything. You already see all the pretty and kind articles about him by usa papers, they love him as he will do what wants. Not that bolsonaro isn't a shit bag but this isn't some big win.
It's not a Fidel. It's a boric
>>568278You can celebrate all you want. The point of matter is that it's not a socialist that won, it's a liberal. It's an incremental improvement but not something that changes the landscape of the country and situation.
If that gets you hyped up then hey more power to you, enjoy.
>>568283A fascist lost, and I enjoy watching fascists eat shit.
The 2020s are a political wasteland, let me fucking have this.
>>568296No.
But you're also being an ass, because people in Brazil have been dealing with living under a fascist cocksucker for several years, and you're being a wet blanket on a day where they can at least breathe a small sigh of relief.
Stop having imageboard-contrarian-brain and let people celebrate shit.
>>568302So how is Lula putting a stop to it when he's openly allying himself with people who aided in the coup? Wouldnt one say that fascism will be even more acute during the next election? Has the conditions which led to Bolsonaro be extinguished or will an even more dangerous fascist will be in charge in the next few years?
>>568303Most people reject the electoral farce and only voted for Lula to kick out Bolsonoro, not because Lula himself is a positive force. Nobody should accept the PT march to the right.
https://www.demvolkedienen.org/index.php/en/t-proletarischer-feminismus-en/7198-mfp-brazil-the-current-elections-and-the-women-s-question
>Let us not deceive ourselves: the resounding record of abstention and rejection to the electoral farce, despite all the blackmail moved by an unprecedented apparatus of counter-propaganda and lies, only confirms how much this system of power is in ruins. As the great Karl Marx said, the emancipation of the workers (where women are included, half of heaven) can only be the work of the workers themselves, conquered through hard struggle, and not through the gift of some “savior of the fatherland”.Now is the time for sober analysis. The proletariat is not celebrating this victory.
>>568315>Most people reject the electoral farce and only voted for Lula to kick out Bolsonoro, not because Lula himself is a positive force. Nobody should accept the PT march to the right. I'm aware. Don't be putting words in my mouth.
>Now is the time for sober analysis. The proletariat is not celebrating this victory.No, tomorrow is. You can start analyzing tomorrow morning.
Right now you can stop being a contrarian dork and let brazilanons in the thread vent after years of dealing with this shit.
>>568315The solution is to organize, which will be much easier under Lula.
For now, I WILL celebrate and I WILL be happy that Lula won.
>>568331The army is not the coup-happy force we alla ssumed it was. Bozo's constant attempts at a coup have demonstrated it so. A rather small proportion of ghoulish generals had been using that fear of ours to bhelp bluff their way into power.
>>568334É no mundo inteira essa merda.
>>568326socdems have historically suppressed the left. and another anon pointed out that Boric and Castillo also did so too.
>>568335I criticized Bernie Sanders and the left's support for Joe Biden.
>>568016Social Democracy is precisely one of the things that stop the conditions for an “anti-imperialist autarchy” from forming.
I tend to be more lenient towards Arce/MAS because at the very least they haven’t been complete let downs when compared to the other LatAm SuccDems, but that still doesn’t change the fact that they’re still a reconciliatory party to appease workers with capital. Were free elections not allowed in Bolivia it’s VERY likely that the anti-Añez movement would have further radicalized and with the political will and levels of organization already present, a socialist revolution would have definitely been a possibility.
Instead the MAS got elected, the worker’s movement got transformed into being the protectors of the current order and although they have been doing an okayish job so far, is rejecting one IMF loan and getting better trade deals with China about the most you can aspire to?
>>568345Why do you need 100% of people to pretend to be excited like it's a revolution? If you want to be happy be happy. Some of us are more critical and less rosey eyed about things. We don't need to create illusions and make ourselves believe it is something it is not to feel enjoyment
A guy to left of a fascist won who isn't a socialist either. That's nice. That's all
>>568269Boric didn't govern Chile before, Lula in Brasil did. And it brought good results for the regional left, as well as a growth of his country.
And dude you're not enlightened, everyone ITT knows he isn't a Fidel (with whom he had very good relations btw).
>>568371>reactionaryism is when you are critical. o estado.
>>568346>Instead the MAS got elected, the worker’s movement got transformed into being the protectors of the current order and although they have been doing an okayish job so far, is rejecting one IMF loan and getting better trade deals with China about the most you can aspire to?Yes. There is no revolutionary movement in Brazil.
>>568359Nobody is saying they've "defeated fascism", we're saying that not having a fascist in charge makes thing marginally less awful.
Stop being an ass. Let people celebrate that Bolsonaro lost. Everybody knows that the far-right is still a force to be reckoned with and how socdems are. This isn't about that. Stop acting like you're superior by trying to throw a wet blanket on the thread by spouting shit that literally everybody here already knows.
>>568375Revolutionary momentum comes from the masses, not neckbeard neets.
>>568376cala boca seu otario.
>>568315Based and maopilled
Rebelar-se é justo!
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