https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-65953941News is treating this as a huge drama with BBC running a 'live updates' page. Onboard is confirmed to be a billionaire who made his fortune in private jets - can we all come together and hope for a safe return?
>>571448LET'S GET ORCANIZED
Killer Oreos of the sea wooo they will be uplifted after the dolphins.
>>571466That's what I thought because I remember seeing something about Nuclear Submarines and how they worked, and was very confused why that one was so fucking tiny.
>>571467Yup they deserve their fate then if this is what they done. A literal Iron grave where they remain until the metal gets destroyed or someone finds the sub.
>>571477youd be astonished at how much wanton death and destruction occurs at the hands of porkys being violently cheap
t. engineer who has read far too many case studies on catastrophic plant failures
>>571441And the people-of the pit return to their watery crevice.
As prophesised.
>>571448Let's get orcanized!
ORCANIZATION, HERE I COME
>>571448Damn, my dyslexia made me misread this.
LET'S GET ORCANIZED!
Just a reminder that they're only
NOW searching underwater. For the past few days they've been using planes, counting their chances on the possibility that the sub activated its flotation emergency systems and is hanging around the sea surface. This might or might not have happened; for example it could be that the sub is stuck underwater or something.
>>571534They have at
most 96 hours of oxygen. They've been inside of it since 18th of June so they're confirmed dead at the 22nd. The sub is sealed tight and can't be opened from the inside so even a successful flotation scenario doesn't make a difference so long as no one has found them and opened the sub yet.
https://oceangate.com/news-and-media/blog/2019-0221-why-titan-is-not-classed.html>Space X, Blue Origin and Virgin Galactic all rely on experienced inside experts to oversee the daily operations, testing, and validation versus bringing in outsiders who need to first be educated before being qualified to ‘validate’ any innovations.>With this [real-time monitoring] system, we can determine if the hull is compromised well before situations become life-threatening, and safely return to the surface.>Classed subs are only required to undergo depth validation every three years, whereas our RTM system validates the integrity of the hull on each and every dive.>OceanGate’s patent-pending Real Time Monitoring system (RTM) that monitors acoustic emissions from the carbon fiber structureSo there is really nothing to worry about, they will be just fine
>>571534>>571536>Sometimes I go to the end of the batteries and sometimes even more than to the end–Paul-Henry Nargeolet, sole actual crew member on the Titan sub
>>571536Analog drift caused their demise.
>>571538my god
>>571441It was full of capitalist pigs . Nothing of value lost.
>Shahzada DawoodA Pakistani billionaire in particular assuredly has built their wealth atop a mountain of slave's bones.
>>571448Let's Get Orcanized!
>>571453James Cameron does not do what James Cameron does for James Cameron. James Cameron does what James Cameron does because he is James Cameron
>>571548>The constant pressure cycling weakens existing flaws resulting in large tears of the carbon. Non-destructive testing was critical to detect such potentially existing flaws in order to ensure a solid and safe product for the safety of the passengers and crew.An opinion that's more educated that mine is that the sub imploded. Apparently carbon fiber is not optimal for these depths but these people went with it because "they use it in spaaaace" even though that's a different environment. When carbon fiber fails to pressure it also does so quickly, catastrophically, and shatters rather than bending or cracking. So here's where the gory details enter the picture.
It's entirely possible the hull imploded into thousands of razor-sharp pieces in about a millisecond, or even turning into metal dust from the pressure wave which is also moving at that speed, ripping the carbon fiber into a billion pieces in that amount of time, before the human brain could even register what was happening, the people inside would also catch on fire and explode simultaneously with the impact from a billion pieces of razor-sharp carbon fiber and crushing amounts of water moving at supersonic speeds.
>>571563>>571548Mashallah
Cheapfuck petty bourg execute their haute bourg overlords with the jankiest death tube imaginable
Only way it could be more hilarious is if it used madcatz controllers
>>571589>'Banging sounds'Damn, one last orgy before they die…
>>571590>I would give up my life savings All 12 dollars and 50 cents?
>>571566Submarines are difficult to regulate. I was reading about them today because this little scandal made me realize I'm autistic for submarines. Since they operate in international waters, it's not clear to anybody whose rules they should follow. Regulations only apply under a particular government's sovereignty .
International law is quite explicit that states can have territorial sovereignty up to twelve nautical miles from their coast. That means the vast majority of the ocean is owned by no one.
>>571596Also as it happens, the way maritime law operates is that the vessels themselves have to fly a particular national flag, and then that magically means the laws of that country apply to everything on that vessel. But get this–there's no law saying YOU must fly the flag, so you can magically declare anarchy at any point once you're in international waters!
You guessed it– particular sub didn't have an American flag.
Maritime customs are kind of interesting. Seems like anarchists should take to the seas.
>>571596>>571597This is why most merchant ships are flagged to some tiny shithole like Liberia, Panama or the Caymans with no regulations and a minimal registration fee so they can just do whatever regarding safety, worker rights, etc.
And ancaps have tried the whole international waters thing via "seasteading" and it doesn't work so great.
https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3006682/thailand-wants-us-killed-bitcoin-couple-who-lived-ocean >>571589This means that they didn't implode and die instantly like other posters are saying, and will instead slowly choke to death from a lack of oxygen.
Straight out of a horror movie.
>>571597>the way maritime law operates is that the vessels themselves have to fly a particular national flagthat's not how it works at all lol. It is under the jurisdiction of the country under whose "flag" it is registered. You flying the piece of cloth or not doesn't mean anything, because you have papers on board saying where you're registered, and if you don't, then the country's shipping registry does.
>you can magically declare anarchy at any point once you're in international waters! No, you can't. And if you do, you'll be considered a pirate and they will kill you and sink you at the first sign of resistance, cause you're dumb if you think Gabrielle Cacci will not go home and eat his wife's tortellini just because some kids with guns decided to play anarchy at sea.
>Seems like anarchists should take to the seas.Sea is srsbsns. I'm not even talking about laws. If you think it is "easy" to spend months at sea, "playing anarchy" or not, then with your attitude the Sea herself will fucking swallow you. Let alone some random country's navy.
>Maritime customs are kind of interesting. Maritime LAWS are generally written by seamen, shipbuilders, and people who have met the Sea. They write all those regulations, safety, certification and so on, because the Sea is srsbsns. You can't just go out there. And when you're out there, your actions can affect others. As in, if one person fucks up, you all die.
Movies make it out to be some happy adventure you go on and do what you want. No. You are in a domain that humans do not control, you are only a guest, and you should behave that way. The Sea allows you to go or doesn't.
All that fairytale shit about gods, monsters, beautiful paradises or worst hells? That's all real, that's the fucking Sea. We live on the edge of that world. We all like to play on its edges, swim in the coasts, around the islands. But going OUT THERE. Damn.
As an aside, all those people and now kids who are going around the world "alone"? Tracked 24/7, support boat(s) following, its path, course and schedule determined by constant weather reports from stations all over the world, constant radio contact, constant radar blip. It is very hard to find something in the ocean once you have lost it. As in, impoasibly hard. The best method we've found is just to wait on the islands/coasts in the path of the ocean current and wait for it to wash up on shore.
Once the Sea is done playing with you, she returns whatever is leftThe Sea isn't mean, or nice, you can't make value judgments. She just is the way she is, beautiful, playful, terrifying, gentle, intense, nurturing, aggressive, imposing. She's perfect, and that is why people love her.
Some silicon valley tech bros thought they could go out there and play underwater explorers. 2000m? That's just like 300m, just bigger numbers. It'll be easy, besides, we have all these fancy switches and knobs that totally bring us up and save us. The fucking fools.
>>571637Gem.
>>571630Nazbol Dark Alchemy demands ~300 human souls for that of 1 billionaire. A forbidden practice is afoot.
>>571644 (me)
Honestly the migrant deaths bums me out a lot. Hard to joke about that kinda thing…
:/ sorry bout that
>>571639>that picLooks exactly like something you want to camouflage on the ocean floor. That white means fuck all at those depths, cause whitish-grey could also be dead coral, or rocks, or beluga whale carcass. It even has LIGHT BLUE WIRES on top, to fucking break up the white shape, exactly like camouflage.
There's a reason underwater things are completely bright orange or bright yellow. Because there's nothing natural in the ocean that is big and bright orange. That's why life vests are orange. The US coast guards paints its
helicopters orange. But these stupid fucks probably thought "woah, slick design man, looks like a whale, we totally look like a sea creature haha, it'll be so rad once we're in there, swimming, like a whale, bro!"
>>571645Those people were killed when they were put into a situation where the journey TO and ACROSS the Mediterranean became their best option. And as much as I am for open borders, refugees welcome, etc. that is once they are already here. The best thing would be if they actually could build and have a good life in the country where they are from.
Nah, all other countries are kept down, Europe is the beacon of hope in an otherwise dark world.
>Come to us, ye scum of the Earth, filter through our land and our shore and our sky, pay ye us in gold or in blood?ironically, people coming in these boats pay many times more than a plane ticket and visa costs to visit. but they are not students, or professionals, so they cannot apply for work or work visas, they don't have enough "points". they just didn't level up enough, they should do a bunch of side quests to get XPSo if you want to help those people, start at the source of the problem, not at its effect.
>>571619>The decision to take such a big risk may seem odd to many of us. But consider this: When you are a billionaire (and have been for years), you go through normal wishes and crazy wishes that a normal person can come up with (so not that crazy really) really fast. When you can have everything, your tastes change and become, shall I say, eccentric. Consider all the powerful people that went to Epstein's island. When you see yourself as existing on a different level of the rabble, what do you care about the morals of the rabble?I just don't understand why billionaires would need Epstein or anyone else to engage in depraved debauchery or any eccentric tastes. At that level of wealth you can just buy anything you want yourself, if they want to eat a live fetus out of the belly of a live pregnant woman, I'm sure it wouldn't take that much of a bite (heh) of their fortunes to arrange it.
And case in point, surely one can find better more reputable trips to buy for this thing than the techbro death tube of hubris.
>>571588"Allah" means god, jackass. Christcucks and Muslims worship the same god, you cretin!
>Not even god can sink itWhat a delusional moron. As someone who works in engineering, no true engineer would ever be this cocky.
LMAO!
>>571655God damn anon, you made me jump. Do not make these kinds of jokes, we have one day left max without finding them before we can say they're 100% ded. This is to tense for such jokes, just cross your fingers and pray.
>>571650>So if you want to help those people, start at the source of the problem, not at its effect.Anon, I do broadly agree with you but having said that it is still important for us to fight the state actively closing down every method of entry outside of the most dangerous, the bourgeoisie have very purposefully put them in the position of making them cross the boat in such danger, it is like entertainment to these pychopaths.
>>571664most likely number 1; the banging noises are likely just interference from other search vessels or random noise.
I want it to be the latter though, just because its funnier.
>>571653>I just don't understand why billionaires would need Epstein or anyone else to engage in depraved debauchery or any eccentric tastes.Human trafficking isn't exactly easy. You need to source people from somewhere and keep cover and run security to make sure they don't escape, all that shit. Just like anything else, it makes sense that somebody would specialize in it. And as the guy who does that people like Epstein have a privileged position by virtue of all the dirt they have on people automatically. So you have a feedback loop of people who are in that position getting more power and more reason to hold onto that position and encourage the practice as much as possible among the rich and powerful.
Also this
>>571654Something a lot of people don't realize is that for the super rich it's not just money itself but also influence and connections that allow you to buy things. Money is more like a lubricant than the actual medium of exchange. Their deal at that level is trading in influence and power.
>>571664Their air tanks CAN hold an x amount of oxygen and hold them for 96 hours or whatever they said. We don't know how much oxygen was used before the dive. Did they go on a smaller test dive and didn't fill up their tanks? Were they full full when they went down?
My guess is they ran out of oxygen before expected. Those estimates probably assume oxygen consumption at rest. If they panicked, yelled, got angry, scared, hyperventilated, fought each other, they would have used up the oxygen quicker.
None of these people are "trained professionals". Astronauts undergo rigorous psychological training for a reason.
>POV: your last hours on Earth >>571675I was gonna say
>only way to survive is to kill the other 4 and hope they find you in time.But in our, lame, totally boring and shitty world, the billionaire probably said he'd pay millions to their families if they killed themselves.
<So… we have time to kill. How much would it cost for you to kill yourself? $10 million?<Then they work out all the finer details through joke, but at the end billionaire tells them he's serious<they all agree, sign contracts, etc.<they kill themselves, billionaire gets rescued<billionaire rips up contracts, invents a bullshit story>billionaire continues his life, drugs, threesomes and cocainethe end
directed by wolfgang petersen
>>571680>because it’s not really that indicative of anything that they use an off the shelf controller or source lights from major retailers.What kind of idiot uses fucking Xbox controllers where the analogue stick's have a tendency to get misaligned off centre so bad even I've heard of it through cultural osmosis
Cost cutting ++
Porky dies for a few excess profits on the savings
Mods, are we aloud to laugh about this one yet, or is it too soon?
>>571679Even if I wasn't a tankie these fuckers still deserve it for getting scammed this hard lmao
two hundred and fifty thousand smackeroonies for a drainage pipe controlled by a logitech controller and no toilet
>>571686I wouldn’t trust anything less than a Hall effect modded, top of the line dualsense/Xbox elite controller for an underwater drone, let alone a manned sub. Game controllers are used for drones, not something with people on it
Obsession for hiding the dirty “clunky” reality of engineering has caused immeasurable harm to our ability to design manned vehicles
>>571597>Maritime customs are kind of interesting. Seems like anarchists should take to the seas.2017 /leftypol/ says hi
, matey-posting was fun.
>>571664surfacing would be the funniest scenario for several reasons:
1. it means the starlink connection shat itself which would hurt elon musk's non-dying ventures heavily
2. incredibly ironic that they can see the surface but can't go out and breathe air and will slowly asfixiate inside a bolted can
>>571726are the bends really a factor here? I can't imagine that it's designed so the inside pressure is 300+ bar. can they change the air in the can from outside?
>>571728I wouldn't even use that. the old Atari standard is simple, just one wire per button (up to 8) + ground. if the controller breaks somehow you can still strip the wire and touch the relevant leads to ground
>>571732I prefer 60s style based retard adventurism to this by westerners tbh
I imagine seeing
>Doomscrollers wearing this in line at their nearest coffee shop, awaiting adolescent reactions of awe>Deep down fully understanding that liberal civil rights protect their "freedom of expression" donning this, in effect reality being completely uncontroversial>The thought of actually organizing and resisting western imperialism domestically makes them "stressed out", quickly shifting to another form of digital consumption >>571733>are the bends really a factor here?i don't see what does radiohead have to do with anything. i'm just kidding, i mean you have to at least assume that being bolted means the chamber stays pressurized no matter what.
tbh i heard the scrubber system that cleans the CO2 is bad to basically non-existent, likely they just poisoned themselves long ago
>>571751I love posts like that because like last week a ship full of refugees capsized and 200+ people died.
Imagine the salt water filling your lungs as you watch your children succumb as well. I'd rather my head explode from the pressure than have that any day lmfao
>>571742if it's bolted together at sea level that means the pressure inside should be close to 1 bar, assuming they don't add air as the vessel gets deeper and deeper. that would require an umbilical
>>571744guy's in the spotlight and about to probably land a fat inheritance, I'd take the opportunity too
>>571751dying from hypercapnia is far from painless, not to mention the hardwired anxiety triggered by it. you're thinking oxygen deprivation which is indeed quite painless
>>571753*coomset
>>571754>I love posts like that because like last week a ship full of refugees capsized and 200+ people died.Nah, we are looking at 300+ now, and rising afaik.
An anon should make that thread about migration. :)
>>571701Right. But imperialism isn't when you have walls and border control. Those countries aren't impoverished cause Europe has militarised its border police. Focusing on the border doesn't solve the problem.
Actually, if you focus on the border, they'll just say "Ok, we'll be nicer". They won't beat them up and they'll give them a blanket as they send them to the concentration camp in Rwanda. So it'll be
nice and
humane. Libs will pat themselves on the back for activism well done, and nothing will really change. Just like liberal abolition of slavery didn't end slavery or significantly improve the African-American experience.
Expecting border police to be nice is like expecting real police to be nice. Just won't happen.
>>571778>Also this happens pretty often and EU authorities refuse to do anything about it except have border patrol watch as they drown and sometimes take pictures. I love European values!EU member states do more than just watch, they created this situation by militarizing every boarder, beefing up every checkpoint and so on until the only way to many countries is an extremely dangerous trips in the extremely over-crowded vessels es we currently see.
It's really fucked, but it is even more fucked to claim the crime of Fortress Europe as only a crime of inaction.
>>571770Rides on the Musk penis rockets should be as exclusive as possible, only the richest of the rich should be afforded a seat. And we should throw the dice as often as possible tbh.
The thing with the space hypetrain though, is that it cannot have it's concorde/tupolev moments because "space races" are an integral component of cold war dick measuring and "space colonization" cannot be officially taken off the table either without revealing the fact that it's the military/telecoms all the way down. So I wonder if it will be kept in permanent limbo for fear of disenchantment.
>>571782the amateur submarine some Danes made is way more impressive. then one of them murdered a reporter on it and tried to dump her body. but they found the pieces and blood all over the submarine. they were planning on using it as a control tower for launching rockets at sea.
the murderer got life in prison (~20 something years) and they destroyed the submarine. cause a bad thing happened on it. fucking dumb.
>>571782>The viewport area is also the toilet areawot
Imagine going to a tourist location and all the binoculars or looking places to admire the scenery require you to step into a porta-potty.
<Oh you want to admire the touristic attraction from the looking spot ? Well step into the portaloo and hold your breath, don't worry if your eyes water, it's perfectly normal! >>571801the virgin capitalist tin can coffin
>vsthe chad danish engineer undervandsbåd
>>571819You haven't been seeing the stuff he post on his account. He is bringing it on himself.
Also this is girl he has on his pinned post and his bio on twitter. She has him banned from her events. He's like a stalker
>>571650>The best thing would be if they actually could build and have a good life in the country where they are from.Impossible without a communist revolution and liquidation of their glowie backed "leaders" and the forceful end of neocolonialism
Their lives in their Euro neocolonies are so miserable their only option is to go to Europe and provide their oppressors with some justice.
Europe is the source of the problem.
>>571825World War I happened due to the Germany industrial class not wanting share their surplus value with the British capitalists and wanting more markets to feed their rapid industrialization. Imperial Japan also looked to Imperial Germany as an example to follow so it is not like capitalist in devloping nations are incapable of fighting for their right build their own capitalist empire.
With the PRC offering an alternative to US financial insinuations it is very possible for the devloping world to go through national capitalist revolutions against the US.
>>571830Imagine being a billionaire's failson and being this pathetically thirsty when you could presumably afford prostitutes.
>>571838Though I could understand alien dick making one act unwise. 👀
>>571839>Imagine being a billionaire's failson and being this pathetically thirsty when you could presumably afford prostitutes.he's a brit he has no chance
>>571844>brian reeks of retard failsonexactly what is needed to be molded into a proper comrade, cardi is just an average whore
>>571846>cardi is just an average whore<loser rich white boy also isn't some generic loser on top of being reactionary"brocialism" everyone
i guess it's socialist in the way that the NSDAP was
>>571851And? You know how many migrants pass through the US border inside gas tanks or unventilated tanks of tanker trucks? Or freeze to death in reefer trailers like the ones in England, or die of heat stroke in shipping containers?
All of that is treated as just business as usual in this hellworld.
But some parasites who benefit the most from this hellworld die in a sub of their own choosing? I literally don't even feel anything. It's not like the Challenger astronauts where I get a bad feeling in my gut thinking about what they went through, because they were actually human. Billionaires getting crushed means nothing more than a cockroach being stomped, or an oyster with no central nervous system being fried up in oil.
>>571863Billionaire father killed himself with a toy submarine
Son is a 37 year old dictionary definition of failchild
What is going on with the booj
>>571864Reading comprehension?
>>571861Yeah NTC and not an expert but IIRC CO2 directly triggers the breathing response. So that small difference might make it that much more painful.
Can someone open GIMP and make an 🥳OLIGARCH DOWN🎉 meme?
>>571839Maybe he has moral standards.
I mean, he probably doesn't, but there's at least the remote possibility he's just after a consensual relationship and thinks he can get one from an OnlyFans girl.
>>571919They hired a bunch of young white guys instead.
It isn't wokeness or whatever, it's Silicon Valley tech brainworms.
>>571917correct
some quick expert comments on engineering as well as the life support bit:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/22/missing-titan-sub-likely-intact-no-power-engineer-ron-allum-titanic-submersible
<“It also means that if the occupants are sitting in a half-flooded pressure hull, that could also be catastrophic. They could become hypothermic. I don’t know how well the CO2 scrubber systems would work if they’re wet.”half-flooded pressure hull >>571750*stepson
is he just trolling at this point? lmao
>>571935>it's not a ride at Disney>it's not a normal tourist experience blablabla>it's more challenging than going to the moon! t. Dr. Dr. Prof. Dr. Academic Scientistwell billionaire rich fags there's your special experience far away from the common working class pleb, enjoy
play stupid games win stupid prices as they say
>>571448L E T ' S
G E T
O R C A N I Z E D
>>571931the bourgeois family has drowned
billions must breed
>>571989And?
>me me me! I need support! >*goes out to a wack ass blink 182 concert*> Behaves like an impudent entitled jackass All rich kids are brain broken by narcissism
>>572014nooooooo
footage wouldve been so kino omfg
>>572020>why would you pay $250k to see the titanic just to get wasted on crackwell you wouldn't get wasted before hand obviously.. But besides that i very much doubt you can see anything at 4000 depth in that thing anon, they are selling the experience not the view.
>>572019>anon, the only reason this entire debacle has unfolded the way that it has is due to the consistent illogical dismissal of safety features and regulations on the submarine. They all knew going in and were very public about being anti-safety and anti-regulation. i would think going in you would take the drugs, even if not to stay calm in case of emergency and not to shit at least to have a quick and comfortable death in case. I can simply think of 0 reason this would not be done and being american only lends to this because they can ask their doctor who will give them a lot of benzodiazapines and opiates for no reason, it is not like medicine in a real country you can just get given them there.
>>572024375 atmospheres IIRC
picrel is what ~1 atmosphere of pressure does
>>572035Why do you keep trying to push this autistic 'Over' as 'Joever' thing?
Pretty sure you are the only person that knows what you are referencing, forced memes are gay, but in the bad way.
>>572047>lemme riff bro, damnWhat are you trying to riff there is literally nobody involved called joe? you're just being a weird autist anon.
I am not trying to be mean I am just trying to point out that if you created a meme you have to force, or explain because it is an obscure reference, it is not a meme worth pursuing.
(Please Ignore the Retard) >>572037I don’t see much evidence of them cheapening in safety tbh. Most claims they have were debunked by learning more about the sun and their design decisions. The vehicle appears to be well equipped and it failed because the design itself is probably not able to work. The company was
inventing a new vehicle. It’s unfortunate it failed.
>>572040So this 'wrost deaf evar' by the lib and twitter crowd is much much comfier dying than the 500 migrants who died this week also could ever hope to have had?
>>572054>I don’t see much evidence of them cheapening in safety tbh.There have been a ton, even in the MSM narritive, including a quote saying self and safety is bad because it stops inovation and the head guy who was fired (or quit, idr) over serious safety concerns. I have you assume you have seen the litany of issues the MSM and pop culture has bought up, so:
>Most claims they have were debunkedCan you elaborate on how the issues the MSM are talking on were debunked? To be straight with you, to claim something is deboooonked with 0 evidence is going to convince exactly nobody, anon.
>>572060>Basically it was all out of context and fake. The shit about the guy quitting because of safety is fake as fuck. He wasn’t an engineer or designer and had no knowledge of materials or sub engineering.This is a big claim, that it is all fake, can you provide any proof for this for reads?
Specifically I would like to proof on the unrated persprex/glass, proof on the guy who was fired/quit? did owner or not say safety was bad for innovation and I definetly sead the video of him saying that he had to bend/break rules to get where he was, was this taken out of context? If so what was the original context?
>>572061Socialism did so for the common good, not by some noble or bougie undertaking a vanity project on the backs of sherpas.
They also didn't skimp on safety features.
>>572061>Non-Anglos have no lack of explorers and adventurers in their histories. USians in particular have become a parochial, small minded, insecure culture of luddites. It’s noticeable everywhere.Correct take.
>insecure culture of ludditesThis is a bad take, at least the luddites were fighting for what they seen as their ability to work, their dignity and lifes.
>>572068Liberals are so dumb they now started beliefing anything used as propaganda is false on account of being propaganda. It is quite amazing turn of events. 'post-truth' indeed.
>>572072they have gone balls out for this shit whilst currently we are hearing numbers from:
>>571644 >>571630 >>571514 >>572057 as being at
700 actual real human beings, with that possibly still going higher.
Peak Spectacle. It is so sad it makes me feel unironically upset. and I am a hard person to rock like that.
>>572075not their best work tbh. feels like they just slapped the soyjaks on. Hopefully in the next couple of hours they'll release something more fleshed out
>>572079soyjak hurt my feelings :(
>>572037they even made it out of titanium
mind-boggling
>>572042So true
👏MORE 👏BILLIONAIRE 👏DYING 👏IN 👏SUBMERSIBLES 👏
Cameron and Ballard now on record saying that the sub had apparently already dropped its ballasts and were beginning to ascend when the thing imploded, so question is why tf did the corpos up top not call for help for over 12 hours?
>>572128eh tbr only a matter of time before the kid became one of those "poors don't work hard enough and then complain they can't afford a house", "I worked hard and made it, why can't you?"
>>572124inb4 the USdems claim OceanGate was "teh RuZZians" all along, trying to get burgerland to reveal its Top SSecret Tech
>>572119that's not an actual pic is it?
no way did they actually fucking land this piece of junk on the wreck of the titanic, the odds would have to be insane if it was just drifting down through the ocean currents from less than halfway down…
>>572146The Burger state is so enthralled to the bourgeoisie, and the billionaire class of the bourgeoisie in particular, that they wouldn't countenance the possibility that the billionaires imploded until all hope of saving their lives was gone. They openly admitted this. They only considered implosion as a possibility after their oxygen would have theoretically run out.
It's not so much taking us for a ride as regarding the protection of Porky to be Priority 1 even against all hope and reason. Of course they regarded the fact that they were probably already dead top secret information.
>>572143Honestly probably this.
>>572144Carbon fiber laminates, now that people are getting more used to them, are getting a well deserved reputation for high performance but also being somewhat noted for being difficult to maintain and perform checks on.
Five identifiable fragments from the sub were reportedly located. We know four of them
>tail cone>landing sled>two (2) bellendsBut I haven't seen what is the fifth
>>572176Discoverer of the Titanic Robert Ballard has said something similar, so they likely know something that hasn't been made public yet. Between this and the sonar signature picked up by the military, the media circus seems stupid
>>572177He basically said it's like poetry with what happened to the Titanic, with the captain ignoring danger and repeated warnings, and for such a rare incident to happen in the same site of all places.
And not only was he talking about the issue with the carbon fiber but that he had personally warned Richard Branson's sub team about that kind of thing back when they were competing to get to Challenger Deep. Like he personally tried to prevent this and these people didn't listen.
Seeing a lot of libs and lolbertarians online being like
>You're only lacking empathy for the dead because you're JEALOUS of their wealth!
But I can't think of any other case where someone is hated out of jealousy. Any time the phrase
>You hate me because you wanna be me
is always going to be said out of delusion.
Can anyone think of any other kind of hate gets accused of being based in jealousy? Because it seems to me that jealousy is something you experience in personal one-to-one relationships, not people you're disassociated with, in that case "wishing" to be them takes on an aspirational perspective, right? Whether it's teenage girls with Taylor Swift, or middle class college graduates with Elon Musk, "wishing to be someone" results in people mimicking their idol, hanging on their every word, feeling a great sense of empathy towards them (since in an ideal world, that would be themselves).
By no means am I saying no one wishes against having money, mansions and private jets and shit, but there's a difference between wanting these things in the abstract and wanting to take all the steps that lead to acquiring these things and I think over COVID, a lot of people have woken up to just how inhuman people like Musk and Bezos were with their staff during a global pandemic and realized they're not cool forward thinking techbro daddies, they're just Mr Burns.
And that's the crux of it, people might wish to have money but they generally do not wish to be an unfaltering cunt driven entirely by self-interest, so they actually do not want the money because that's how you make the money, the power and the women. Libs and Libertarians on the other hand want the money AND either want, or don't mind, being self-interested twats. Libs are self-interested twats and want Idpol to reign supreme because that means they can get tossed up the social hierarchy by just concocting the correct mixture of self-identifying labels, while Libertarians dream of running their homestead like it's how they imagine Gaddafi ran Libya with the moralising justification being "they can leave any time", perhaps they're not sure what a refugee is when they're voting to keep 'em out.
So that's why, despite trying to portray themselves as being these oh-so nice and moralistic people, claiming Tankies are evil and jealous for not weeping for the can of tuna Titan just became, you can tell them to go fuck themselves because clearly it's not just the money they're projecting an extreme desire for on to us, it's the power and freedom each and every passenger on that submarine had, the tragedy for them is that such power and freedom backfired for a change.
>>572204It wasn't just the Navy. Commercial institutions had the capabilities to detect the implosion and were aware the entire time. The bourgeois collaborated and constructed this entire spectacle.
1. The Burger Reich would reveal information about the defense capabilities of the underwater sensors that are to be used to detect enemy submarines.
2. The money the media apparatus made off this spectacle adds to America's GDP.
3. More media fuel to distract from the ongoing class war. The delay of publishing the information was a way of creating a sense of uncertainty, suspense, and hope among the masses who were waiting for news and updates on the fate of the submersible and its crew, thereby fueling the spectacle.
>>572208The titanic has sunked.
Billionaires must die.
The accumulation of capital into ownership of private individuals and Hegel's master-slave dialectic
Just as the slave owner does not recognize their own impotence against the harsh realities of nature, because of their dependence on slaves who provide them with their sustenance, the master similarly controls the wage worker, or rather wage slave
The bourgeois impulse to individualistic achievement, plus the alienation of the individuality of the wage workers employed by the owner, as can be seen by the CEO dismissing those who brought up safety concerns, coupled with the master's control of the means of production, creates an object, itself the very representation of the flaws of the master-slave dialectic, the master ready to dive deep beneath the ocean totally unprepared, not only believing the masses cannot see the lack of the CEO's clothes just as with the emperor, but the CEO cannot see their own lack of clothes, their own lack of submarine engineering abilities, and in fact flaunts their inability to follow recognized rules of nature
In this case, the contradiction, resulted in Poseidon's unforgiving depths crushing the master, unclothed for the ocean's taking, along with unfortunate victims, each fooling themselves into joining in their own tragic way
>>572202A common populist sentiment is that you would be OK with wealth from a very rich person being expropriated and going to poor people even if they are all strangers to you. Some particularly autistic libs cannot conceive of anything going on beyond personal one-on-one interactions. So they literally cannot parse a statement like the above. I'm not exaggerating. They understand simple normal envy in the sense of Alice wanting some of what Bob has for herself. But they don't understand
"social envy" on behalf of others or whatever you want to call it when Alice thinks something from Bob should go to a faceless poor masses. They just think that Alice is envious and just expressing that in a weird PC way.
>>572214That is a fair evaluation, but I still think there is a conscious decision to not see what most others see here because as I said, the only thing described as envy here is likely their lack of opportunity to exploit the masses, they're clever cunts about it as well because again they try to hold on to privilege any way they can
>Libertarians: I don't believe in equality of outcome, I believe in equality of opportunity and in god's eyes we were already all born equal. I'm just more equal than others because my parents worked hard and invested their own outcome into me.>Libs: white, straight, cisgender privilege MUST end. Btw did I mention I'm a female-leaning bisexual, male-adjacent non-binary and have Irish heritage, they were enslaved as well you know?It's why they all sell out the second they get any success in any kind of political career because they've usually achieved acquiring what they already longed for, a higher position on the social hierarchy they only ever claimed to want to destroy, ironically, out of jealousy.
>>572147the ACK heard around the world
>>572201sweet Rush and hella Cameron
>>572217legends have it that there once was an
ACK! so powerful that every man woman and child around the globe heard it. It was a bittersweet moment. On one hand, everyone knew it was Joever for these billionaires which filled the hearts of the world's population with glee, but on the other, it signified that the billionaires where not suffering a bone-chilling, character-development-driven, cheap-jumpscares-free, emotionally-draining, slow-burn "horror kino" death and as such A24 would not be making a movie surrounding the event.
>>572225>It seems they downgraded to the Logitec controller from the official PS3 controller they had in their previous submersible.They did this because on a previous dive somebody fucked up and put a thruster on the sub backwards and when they tried to compensate they couldn't figure out how to re-map the PS3 controller (they had no alternative means of control). The CEO was on the phone with Sony tech support trying to figure out how to reconfigure the controller while his crew was down at the Titanic level trying to figure out how to stop going in circles. In the end they came up with a solution that included "just turn the controller sideways bro."
You cannot make this shit up and the eventual documentary about this is going to be fucking WILD because every time you look back at the story there's some new Monty Python esque shit that came out about this company.
i think i've seen more than handful of people feeling bad for the sunk submarine. i actually felt bad before realizing 1. i was putting more effort into caring about this than any other tragedy 2. i thought it was just about people who had saved up their life savings to go into the sub, and not already rich
>>572189i mean if it was intentional, seems like they could have just faked their deaths? committing suicide just for attention is still extreme, and it's ironically giving up your wealth anyway.
>>572230>I mean yhea the DoD bought the PS3 to cluster together to build a super computer but the DoD knew Sony wouldn't help them and they'd have to rely on their own IT.This was just reasearchers iirc. This would not be a particularly good way of having large amounts of processing power if you actually you know, have money.
I remember the paper on this though, it was very cool.
>>572239This shit is nuts. for 3 days i have head so many jokes about the sub, bad and good, at work on site, and these are cis-men, steryotypical men, working class men, sometimes reactionary men. I come online and read in the paper all this hand wringing of 'how callus people are online!' and how 'it is a sign of our divided times!1!' it is actually such a nonsense, i can gurantee that when the titanic went down there was work sites full of men joking about it as they today joke about the billionairs being a new exibit on the tour.
These twitteroids live in a fucking fantasy land i am telling you and that this is the only correct take.
>>572250>That guy, samememe, is an honest to god retard. He’s a metrosexual college republican kind of like that one dude who got cancelled for pedo shit.TBH i read the newspaper this morning and it echo'd his sentiments.
>>572254Yes. That is because it is the sea. it is dangerous and will kill you. Fuck around and you gonna die it is so simple.
>>572258this is fucking great.
Even the BBC narrative is about his lack of safety.
what happened to that anon who claimed it was all made up and lies lol?
>>572193>Would you watch it?If it weren't for the
lorum ipsum text on the bottom, I would have this poster hanging on my wall.
>>572204My guess: the risk-reward calculation of saying it earlier doesn't pay off.
If you announce you've heard an implosion then winding down the rescue mission makes sense. If, a few days down the line, someone finds a tin full of asphyxiated corpses floating on the surface then you've doubly fucked up - you killed the rescue mission (so you're getting the blame for the corpse can)
and you've revealed that your surveillance system or the people operating it are unreliable.
Conversely, if you announce you've heard an implosion and the rescue mission is called off, sure, you save a rounding-error in taxpayer money, and you can flex that you heard it go pop, but ultimately it's not that much more impressive than if you announce it later, which you can do with no risk.
Plus the media probably don't really want to hear it - if you say "we heard it go pop on our magic navy microphone" then CNN are gonna find a guy who says that's just two dolphins colliding and then go back to speculating about Oxygen levels until the camera-robot gets down there and finds the billionaire Supa value pond flakes.
>>572258Wow so the kid's safety concerns were about fucking whales eating them? What a moron.
>>572259He's talking about the history of commercial submersibles presumably. Which makes this all even more ironic since that track record of safety is precisely because of all the precautions he ignored. The more I see behind the curtain the more it seems that this guy was some combination of delusional and getting a thrill from the Russian roulette factor.
>>572293Tru dat!
>>572202How would you argue that making light of porky’s misfortune is actually a correct and rational self-interest driven behavior. I have friends who seem rather put off by my agitation regarding this, but I personally sense that it is correct to insert anti-capitalist levity and class critique against the bourgeoisie in this moment (as opposed to ignoring the class differences through engaging in national mourning and anxiety).
>>572291I can definitely see that. Parents love downplaying the concerns of their children and he may have had some valid concerns about the little tin can.
In the end, we tragically lost some poor sad billionaires, and that's the true heartbreaking tragedy here. :(
>>572126Worry not, anon. It's believed that the people on board knew their deaths were imminent and that they were going to die at sea with nobody knowing their whereabouts. I know it isn't perfect and I would've rathered them suffocate at the bottom of the ocean myself; we should take what we can get. (2nd picrel)
Although, I don't know if James fucking Cameron is really the best guy to be giving this information.
>>572285tbf it's inherently harder and more expensive to look for a submarine than to look for a boat. with a boat you just fly a plane over a few times and if you can't find anyone, that's because they're underwater and dead. boom, cancel the search. submarines are a bitch because it's perfectly possible they're underwater but those onboard spite the taxpayer by continuing to live while playing hide-and-seek with would-be rescuers.
(but naturally the class dynamic still applies since
poor civilians don't tend to go missing in holiday submarines.)
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