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i’ve been lurking /a/ and /lgbt/ for years and something kept popping up that no one wants to really admit. tons of guys who are deep into anime, especially the cute girl slice-of-life stuff, end up transitioning or calling themselves trans. not like one or two. i’m talking a full-on trend. they start posting with anime girl pfps, joke about being “eggs,” start asking about HRT, and boom. next thing you know they’re full-time she/her on estrogen. people just act like this is a normal pipeline and don’t stop to ask why it keeps happening

being a guy in our world is kind of trash for a lot of us. you’re expected to be emotionally dead, aggressive, dominant. no crying, no softness, no comfort unless it’s a joke or porn. masculinity is cold. and anime is the total opposite. it gives you girls who are warm, emotionally open, affectionate, kind. it hits you somewhere deep. i wrote it like this, “the femininity of anime girls is expressive, soft, emotionally intelligent and affectively warm. it is everything that masculinity is not” and that contrast feels like a lifeline if you’ve grown up feeling numb and isolated

characters like Rui from Gatchaman Crowds hit different. he’s a guy but dresses femme, looks better than any girl you know, and still commands respect in the story. not treated like a freak, just exists. i said, “Rui is gender-non-conforming and not punished for it” and that’s huge. when you’re used to being told to man up or shut up, seeing someone like Rui makes you think maybe there’s a way out. and slowly, you start to feel more like him than the angry gym bros you’re supposed to relate to. you start to post anime girls not just because they’re cute but because they feel like you

this is where it gets uncomfortable for people. autogynephilia. the idea that some dudes start getting turned on or emotionally hyped by imagining themselves as girls. and yeah, it’s real. i said, “I think anime girls function as a kind of metaphor for the concept of femininity itself, and the idea of femininity becomes eroticized through repetition” and that’s the key. the more you stare at these idealized girls, the more you start to want to be that. not just to look like them but to feel the way they feel. over time, your brain starts rewiring. “When you are constantly looking at anime girls and thinking about them and using them as your identity, you are literally conditioning yourself.” it’s not just fetish, it’s identity forming through exposure and obsession

then you go online and find hundreds of others doing the same thing. you join a discord, you post selfies, people validate you. you get called cute. you feel seen. and for the first time ever, you’re allowed to be soft. you’re allowed to care about how you feel. i said it straight, “Being transgender is the only socially acceptable way to express male femininity” and that’s the real issue. being trans becomes the only exit from male emotional starvation. it’s not always about being born in the wrong body. it’s about being starved in the one you’ve got

i’m not saying people are faking. i’m not saying it’s all anime’s fault. but gender dysphoria doesn’t come out of nowhere. “Gender dysphoria is not something you’re born with. It’s something that develops over time.” and when your whole world tells you being male means you don’t get to feel and then hands you thousands of pictures and stories about girls who do feel, who are loved and comforted and praised for it, you start thinking maybe that’s who you really are. or who you should be

this isn’t just about cartoons. this is about emotional neglect, cultural failure, and how media plus validation can reshape your whole self. i called it “the feedback loop of feminized anime identification and the eroticization of femininity” and it’s not a joke. it’s not theory. i’ve watched it happen to people. it’s real. and if we don’t start being honest about how these things work, we’re gonna keep seeing the same thing. lonely guys, emotionally shut down, finding a fantasy that feels better than real life and deciding to become it. not because they were pretending, but because the system gave them no other way to feel alive

I disagree. Weebs are usually the most racist and transphobic chuds online. Being into anime doesn't make you trans. It may give you comfort if you already feel that way.

>>1191
They also clearly love femboys as you regularly see on /pol/ despite them claiming to be super straight.

>>1192
Femboys online are often absolute edgy racist chuds themselves.

>tons of guys who are deep into anime, especially the cute girl slice-of-life stuff, end up transitioning
I think this is the exception rather than the norm. The role slice-of-life in Japanese media is very clearly visible, it acts an escape valve for alienated male otakus. In a sense they are living a more fulfilled live through them as spiritual transvestites, yet the audience is in the end meant not only to identify with them but also sexualize them and maintain the appropriate distance.

I can very much see how anime can make someone realize things, still tranime is mostly a meme. Here i agree with Solanas on the idea that the repressed desire to become female is something irrevokably linked to the male gender. In my experience, how hard i try to present as female has always been inversely related to how much escapist media i consumed and how horny i was.

There is no socially acceptable way to express femininity as a male, precisely because a male is christened by excising everything about him deemed feminine. To become feminine is to become a failed male or a woman. You can debate the feasibility of hrt and fetishizing femininity, yet this is currently the only path available to definitively reject the social category of masculinity. The only way out is through!

retard

>>1194
Interesting input. Makes me think. thanks anon

>>1190
I think youre quite right and this is wise, I've seen many people like that, been more or less one myself, or almost, and would actually unironically call myslef agp. Unfortunately, unlike anime where society can be all accepting, the real world is a lot less merciful with trans people…

Also people saying weebs are all nazis are forgetting this is mostly a twitter mind virus thing

>>1193
I miss shay…

>>1197
Thanks for feedback. Interesting information

when i were a kid i wanted to be spike from cowboy bebop, vash from trigun, and alucard from hellsing.

maybe you are just a homo queersicle

OP I've seen what you're talking about countless times.

This archetypal kind of weeaboo used to exist in /a/ but the /pol/ution that seeped into the entire site through the 2010's more or less made it haram - yet it still exists on other weeb spaces currently; think vtuber discords, MAL, among other smaller spaces.

It's ofc not <caused> by anime, but my theory is that many people with latent gender dysphoria are "naturally" attracted to cgdct.

As a note, be aware that much of what you're writing here can be considered highly heretical to the leftypol.org canon so you might get a forced vacation to siberia if the thread gets any traction.

>>1201
>what you're writing here can be considered highly heretical to the leftypol.org canon
These topics often get moved to /siberia/ due to the idpol rule, but the OP is by no means "heretical". To us marxists it is self-evident, that gender doesn't come from some authentic internal identity in the way liberal idealogues parrot. I bet you're one of those people who can't shut up about
>muh transhumanist idealism
then turns around to say
>i only take transmedicalists seriously
literal clown shit.

>>1191
>It may give you comfort if you already feel that way.
I think anime attracts queer people for the same reason musical theatre did. It's expressive, colourful, flamboyant, has a whole cosplay subculture of crazy costumes, etc. There's also the added dose of escapism that a lot of alienated queer people might be attracted to, etc. Tbh I don't think anybody can be "turned trans" and I would consider this a right wing position. After all if people can be turned trans, then there must be media, social trends, movements, and individuals which are turning people trans, perhaps deliberately. They're turning our kids trans folks! Plus, if people can be turned trans, then this means they can be "cured". No, trans people are born that way, and the most anime might do is give an avenue of expression for it.

1. This would be better suited for the >>>/lgbt/ board. It's just gonna become a debate addict shithole here.
2. Seeing characters of other genders chilling and being a variety of archetypes can unlodge internalized misogyny/misandry that might make trans repress the notion they might be that other gender. It makes being any gender a less scary prospect to see them represented in media.
>>1191
It's like a 75%/25% split with chuds being the 25% and declining as they start burning bridges with anime over it being too woke. Same with videogames. Chuds are oroborosing themselves by putting the culture war treadmill up to max speed, jetisoning people that don't have time for that leftward.

>trans people are born trans
/libpol/ takes

OP has the pattern backwards.
Trans girls gravitate to girly slice of life anime because they are girls and like stuff for girls, even if they don't know it yet.

>>1216
did you read what OP said?
>Gender dysphoria is not something you’re born with. It’s something that develops over time.

>>1190
I remember reading translated scans from old Japanese otaku magazines that pretty much confirmed a lot of old school otaku into lolis and rape hentai were self-inserting as the girl, or otherwise relating/empathizing with the girl. The pedo and incel shit took over much later.

Stopped reading when you mentioned AGP because the dude that came up with that shit is a known quack and its basically reactionary propaganda.

>they start posting with anime girl pfps, joke about being “eggs,” start asking about HRT, and boom. next thing you know they’re full-time she/her on estrogen. people just act like this is a normal pipeline
That is not a pipeline at all. There is a giant chasm after posting anime girls, with the second step being flat out admitting they are trans.

>>1230
That's dysphoria, not the transness itself. OP didn't insist either are born-with attributes.

By definition no one is born trans or cis, because assignment of gender happens after birth.

what i dont get is why we are posting shit like vid related. ts is such a self own it makes u look like a jackass

>>1277
Well that's internalized cringe culture, anime had a boom in overseas popularity during a time when the internet was a good refuge from cringe culture because corperations hadn't colonized it and established the core web yet.

>>1236
i think the modern take is that he was wrong for was saying its "just" a fetish, and that cis women are also AGP. also something about sex is when you are most vulnerable and fetishes are a reflection of things you wouldn't otherwise consciously recognize. obviously being turned on by clothes is displacement towards an object, but being turned on by being perceived and desired by others as the gender you identify as is just regular sexuality, and an affirmation of transness.

>>1277
This video is so cursed on so many alienation levels I don't even know how to put it

>>1277
lol i respect people who are weirdos and own it far more than this whiny pathetic shit

>>1319
Mr. "equal but separate" has joined the chat

>>1190
It's only natural that feminine men will gravitate towards the only media that doesn't treat them like an unlovable freak.

>>1190
There's an explanatory gap in your theory and it's that this
>being a guy in our world is kind of trash for a lot of us. you’re expected to be emotionally dead, aggressive, dominant. no crying, no softness, no comfort unless it’s a joke or porn. masculinity is cold. and anime is the total opposite. it gives you girls who are warm, emotionally open, affectionate, kind. it hits you somewhere deep. i wrote it like this, “the femininity of anime girls is expressive, soft, emotionally intelligent and affectively warm. it is everything that masculinity is not” and that contrast feels like a lifeline if you’ve grown up feeling numb and isolated
is just a parasocial substitute for the presence of a real woman in an intimate context. Straight men already get to open themselves to *receive* expresions of femininity in relationships. In this context there isn't really a distinction between these experiences other than anime being exaggerated and, obviously, not real.
The problem is that there's no reason why this should suddenly lead to you wanting to embody femininity yourself just as it hasn't for most relationships through the history of humanity. For your theory to hold water you need to explain what's special about anime vs. exposure to real femininity.


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