I like the idea of bottoming in theory but in practice in kinda sucks ass (in the bad way)
how can I make bottoming actually pleasurable?
jannies should all kill themselves btw
Literal bottoming as in getting fucked in the ass? Training by inserting progressively bigger things up there and not neglecting lube hasn't done it for you?
If you just mean sexual submission, if you don't like it you don't like it.
>>1876>>1879/thread 
Regarding sexual submission, I'm a soft dom top but I've bottomed. It can be pleasurable without the sexual submission.
 sorry anon, bottoming is kinda heteronormative and fascist :/ under communism the top/bottom hierarchy will be abolished and everyone will frot
>>1879>Training by inserting progressively bigger things up there and not neglecting lube hasn't done it for you?I mean that feels kinda nice but feels different and less pleasurable when actually getting fucked, don't have that many toys tho
>>1881shut up
 >>1882You also need to take it very slow. Is your partner just ramming it? They need to start slow with a few fingers or small toys and work their way up during the session. 
Also you need to get used to the feeling and learn how to relax etc.
 >>1879you don't need bigger objects, you can reach the prostate with your index finger
>>1876find a better position or a better top
 >>1888Well is penetrative sex enjoyable for ya at all? If not then look into non-penetrative stuff, i.e. frotting.
 >>1886>you don't need bigger objects, you can reach the prostate with your index fingerBut he's probably not getting fucked by people with dicks that thin, is the point. It's about training to accommodate real sex.
 >>1881Nah everyone will form gay circles and everyone will fuck and be fucked.
 "Bottom" and "top" are marketing labels used by financialized neoliberal platforms such as Grindr that turn humans into easily sortable commodities to extract revenue from. Its like that psyop they invented: "are you a side???" (i.e a normal human like 80% of people)
Its like a toy store that sells "girl toys" and "boy toys"…bitch where are you shoving that Rubix cube??? Most toys are just plain old "toys", but capitalists need to market their bullshit in the most pure ideology fashion (fascism)
>>1924>sexual preferences are (online leftoid buzzwords)lol pseud thinks hes submitting an article to medium
the only real problem is straggots taking the top/bottom dynamic out of the context where it makes sense, the bedroom, so now you have people thinking its some fucking personality trait
 >>1924t. seething side
sorry sweaty, most guys do actually enjoy and want to fuck.
 >>1888that's odd - do you have any other sexual or urinary symptoms that suggest something is wrong? if so you might wanna get checked out
 >>1876i like the idea of bottoming too but have been struggling to get around being a porn addict and so used to jerking off that other stimulation isn't as pleasurable, has anyone else dealt with this
 >>1924real
>>1929false prophet
 >>1950I also jerk off a lot, I've used a buttplug and it was great like 40% of the time and very awkward like 60% of the time. When it clicked though it was amazing. You have to always, always use generous lube though and it requires patience I think. I dont do it that often cause its more effort with less consistency than touching dick
 I just don't know how it could possibly be pleasurable. Having something shoved up your arse just hurts and is uncomfortable. Is it just like a 'doing something for your partner' kind of thing where you're not meant to enjoy it yourself? In theory I do like it though.
>>3493I used to think this as well, but recently i just got into the right mood, took out my old, sanded-off makeshift phallus and did it slowly, gently and with a lot of spit. I have trouble in the other department because i'm cut, so this might have been the second genuine orgasm i had in my life, but it's definitely something that's hard to do on demand. In practice most bottoming probably isn't pleasurable in a physical sense, emerging as a vestige of heteronormativity more than anything.
 if ur trans it could be bottom dysphoria
might have to get the old out-in if you can
>>3551also regardless of gender dysphoria: learn what gets u into a sexy mood
maybe u have a kink that u need to discover
 >>1879How frequently do you have to train Im kinda autistic and won't remember to do it if I don't schedule it
 To be lazy you can just imagine being penetrated and orgasm from that.
I'd imagine cock/dildo/finger penetrating me, rubbing against my prostate – feels like as I kinda did it physically.
Still orgasm, bussy twitching, jolts of energy making me have to push my head against the pillow, etc.
Not as good as the real thing.
That makes me see stars and my tetinitus kicking in
>>3559I just do it right before I fuck. The muscles can be trained to give you better control and a better sense of tightness and stuff, but they doesn't stay loosened except immediately after when the muscles gets tired out.
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