guys i don't want to alarm you or anything but i think the anti-femboy movement is a little bourgeois
i resent having to add additional content to this post because it weighs down what would otherwise be a potent sentence.
>>2799What race privileges + pretty (androgynous) privileges will do to a mf.
Reminds me of something I read once. Everyone ought to go through a traumatic experience at least once. It makes you more empathetic and resilient.
>>2836Most of them are just gay bottoms, not AGP.
>>2866Late-transitioning, non-passing, unattractive transwoman who creeps people out and gives sex offender vibes.
>>2871>Most of them are just gay bottoms, not AGP.Actually, they're AGAMP, not AGP or gay. If you look at femboy spaces on Reddit they love their feminine penises and are clearly turned on from wearing female clothing.
Femboys are only mistaken as HSTS by people who do not understand the difference between HSTS and AGP/AGAMP meta-attraction.
>>2878You're correct. AGP is significantly better than AGAMP femboy cringe.
AGP>HSTS>>>>>>AGAMP>>>>MEF
>>2883I mean, there's probably some HSTS femboys, but "femboy" culture is overwhelmingly dominated by AGP/AGAMP, at least online anyways.
These femboys you were with, did they get turned on from crossdressing without any males present to be attracted to it? If so it's still AGP/AGAMP arousal even if they date and have sex with men.
>>2893person who thinks transphobia exists because of blanchards pseudoscience
>ummmm… youre agp, youre getting off to this this, its sexual to you 🤓uh yeah? being a transsexual is objectively hot
>>2900It's part fake and part real. The main issue is that blanchard, a sexologist, looks at everything as though it relates to sex. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Also he never used cis women as a control group. Anyone who's read smut on AO3 should know that cis women have non-zero levels of AGP. Thus, blanchard considers aspects of female sexuality to be a paraphilia.
>>2901>>responding to transphobes saying you get off to yourself with "so?"no i agree with that
>Thus, blanchard considers aspects of female sexuality to be a paraphilia.right which is extremely stupid
>cis women have non-zero levels of AGP. yeah thats my point, the distinction is meaningless. these are not "types" of trans people and the categorization is used for oppression. the only reason his terms were adopted in the first place is because trans people realized they could get free meds by lying to their idiot doctor which makes his studies bunk
>>2906wouldn't most "hsts" also be agp? people only claimed to be hsts in the first place so they wouldn't get kicked out of the clinic for being a fetishist.
i wonder what blanchards thoughts are on the female orgasm
>>2916its a very meandering "conversation" in general, but im referring to the change in arguments between
>>2889 and
>>2896youre right, though, i shouldnt have said anything
ive been made even dumber for trying to understand whats going on in this thread
>>2923>the movie is transphobic is this a real consensus? ive never heard this
>but fuck does Frank N Furter slay. Unrepentant rapist queen.real and tru
>>2921he was explicitly just a crossdresser, like his main fucking song is pretty explicit about it
>>2923>drag is le transphobickill yourself LOL
>>2927There are references to "transsexuals", the first 4 letters of "Transylvania" are heavily riffed on, and he's called a "transvestite", which is basically a slur that could either mean a trans person or a crossdresser (no differentiation is made)
He's depicted as a cross-dresser while also being compared to trans ppl, because the writers didn't think there was any difference between the 2
Also, the protagonists are a stereotypical normie cishet couple who get threatened by his creepy rapey behavior
>>2927In the movie he describes himself as a transsexual no? Even if it's transvestite that term often means transgender/transexual back then. The films creator specifically stated that he didn't view trans women as women.
Yet regardless, I can't really hate the movie. It is deliberately playing into the trope that trans women are rapists and dangerous but at the same fuck if it doesn't do it in a fun way
>>2956Don't pretend there weren't "transvestites" seeking GAC back then. Even Blanchard recognized that. There was common contempt between drag queens and "street queens" who would wear women's clothing full time. Furthermore to cis people thrre isn't a difference between the two categories. Cis people are incredibly happy to take movies about a cross dresser being evil to mean trans people are evil because they view trans people as full time crossdressers
You can like the movie and acknowledge it deliberately plays into trans misogynistic tropes
>>2921IMO, both.
I really don't understand crossdressing in men, most of the time, they don't even look
any good. I think it really is a kink thing.
>>3258>constantly arguing about transhumanist shitThis is because
>>2826>A trans woman can't wait to get home and take her bra off, while a femboy can't wait to get home and put his bra on.Femboys literally don't exist outside of some internet circles.
>>3260>Femboys literally don't exist outside of some internet circles.Maybe too excessive but true for the most part. For the most part femboys exist only on Instagram, OF or Discord servers. Oddly enough I haven't that met that many they
mabs in real life, I'm guessing most femboys either grow into gay femmes, trans women or just regular men.
>>2813>Everyone ought to go through a traumatic experience at least once. It makes you more empathetic and resilient.I do
love it when I see "communists" talking like Republicans excusing child abuse.
>>2871>Late-transitioning, non-passing, unattractive transwoman who creeps people out and gives sex offender vibes.A lot of these people are poor and were unable to get the support they needed when they were younger. Funny how Christian conservatives never give off "sex offender vibes" even though leaving a child with a random trans woman is safer than leaving them with a "youth pastor" but please continue with these rightoid tropes. If you do, you'll have a bright future with Fox News or Sinclair Broadcasting!
>>3469>The root of patriarchy and gendered oppression is private homeownership. There is literally zero difference between landlords and petty-bourgeois homeowners speculating on the cost of the mansions they occupy.A reminder that the countries with the highest rates of home ownership are or at least were socialist.
>In this sense, evicting small homeowners is radical feminist praxis.Like supporting NATO's war in Afghanistan or aligning with American Christian fascists to oppress Trans people?
>liquidating privately owned homes and further concentrating the power of the latifundias is communist praxis>>3479>middle classFuck you are so other-abled
opinionooooning is not real politics
Anyways the whole idea of a "femboy" is problematic. What is a boy? I think it is used in this sense by soysciety to imply a young male, with juvenile qualities. Which is also used for e.g. cis women sometimes. Why not feminine men though? I think the fetishization of "femboys" by people, usually cisgender males, is the main issue. And the response of some people adopting the "femboy" label in response. Wherein "femboys" are seen as possessing feminine qualities that are sexually attractive to these usually femininity attracted, probably majority heterosexual men. But lacking "female" status. And so it fits into a fetishistic role, and also a misogynistic role or allows these men in their fantasies to not have to court a woman basically. It is also does not have "transgender" status, which is seen by many of these same men as gay and woke and cringe and mentally ill basically. It also potentially fits a pedophilic role of constituting a young underage pre-pubertal or pubertal boy who has not yet developed masculine sexual characteristics nor some of the feminine sexual characteristics that a woman would develop during puberty such as breast tissue. And the general demeanour and social expectations of "femboys" often consists of someone who is childish and immature and yet objectified and hypersexualized.
Feminine men are valid, nonbinary people are valid, people who use male pronouns and want to be seen as soft and gentle and possibly feminine are valid. People who want to act immature and carefree at any age while realizing they are legally sexually mature adults unlike children are valid. Whatever their gender identity, gender assigned at birth, and sexual orientation or lack thereof that they may have. People who make or intentionally encourage bad behavior in sexual courtship and gender roles like "chasers" and "pickmes" or arbitrary gender cops are not valid.
>>3526I love how in your third quote it literally says "The house of the worker can only become capital therefore if he rents it to a third person and appropriates a part of the labor product of this third person in the form of rent."
completely unserious person
>>3527>I love how>completely unserious person yeah "i love how" you can only speak like a twitter retard because your only knowledge of communism clearly comes from tweets
same quote literally talks about non-proletarian workers and youre here pretending the petit bourgeois somehow dont exist or are not synonymous with middle class (since the aristocracy isnt a thing anymore)
pseuds take "relation to production" to mean if you dont own a literal factory then you are part of the revolutionary wage workers completely disenfranchised from the proceeds of social labor
>>3532insufferable petit bourgeois tard can only speak in memes and has zero reading comprehension as usual
capitalist under that context clearly refers to the haute bourgeois, you are literally a subhuman moron pushing for bourgeois obfuscation just to feel part of something you dont even actively take part of beyond petty internet squabbles rofl
if "working class" is taken to scientifically mean proletarians, and not the bourgeois distortion: not all wage workers are working class, not all wage workers are poor either, not all poor people are proletarians. if your only issue is the use of the term "middle class" then youre EVEN more retarded than i thought
just the effect of college students having so much free time to spend on the internet pushing bullshit i guess
>>3522ctrl f middle class
>merchants and manufacturers, the majority of whom form the so called middle class without being ecessively wealthy, however, a middle class only compared with the wealthy nobility and capitalists, in relation tp the workers od it's position is like that of an aristrocracy, in a country like england which lives only by industry, and therefore has a multitude of workers. people will be much more conscious of this than, for example, in Germany, where the middle class comprises the craftsmen and peasants, and where such an extensive class of factory workers is unknownctrl f middle class
he is speaking of elements of society whom in quality and class composition are distinct from those who own no capital and are forced to sell their labour to earn a wage to pay for their living. But whom are not members of the haute bourgeoisie whom dominate society politically with hegemonic control over the means of production. These people may be "petit bourgeois" owners of small amounts of capital that they work themselves like land owning peasants, they may be "small bourgeois" owners of small businesses who may work themselves and their families or hire some small number of proletarians to work their shops, but lack the political power and control of the MoP that the haute bourgeoise hold. There is also the "labour aristocracy", those proletarians who through their relation to the bourgeoisie and the nature of their work and standard of living, hold some political sympathies and interests in common with the haute bourgeoisie.
These elements of society have their own class distinctions, they are not a single class, they are not homogenous in their class relations or relationship to the means of production, and they are not members of "the middle class"
>3520not an argument
>>3521how does the post you are replying to relate to this bitingly witty and compellingly satirical example you are upholding? To be clear I am not debating the quality nor accuracy of this standard of comparison, I am asking for your insight as to how the post you replied to fits the bill here
flood undetected post not discarded >>3545I think that is incorrect actually and I would in fact like to post the monke "neuron activation" meme. what about my post leads you to believe this? can you explain why my posts reads like that to you?
I would like to think that I was making direct accusations
>>3555howso?
>but don't differentiate "girls" from "women"I do
It is maybe more normalized to call adult women girls but I think it's the same problem
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