/lgbt/ - LGBT

I would reckon anytime you see state authorities go out of their way to crack down on any random minority be it ethnic,religious or sexual you'll end up with that group disproportionately represented in whatever radicals are in that time and place. Since us commies are everywhere it makes sense that random minority groups get recruited by us like kurds in turkey, jews in the pale, trans in the burger,etc. Also one thing is that unlike say a black and hispanic person tmk there isn't old ass institutions that have been embedded into the community for decades like the NAACP or UFW for trans mfers to turn too.

>>3345
i think the social trauma that comes from being trans makes you not a normie, and not being a normie makes you question things, and questioning things makes you a political extremist, and (most) transhumanists don't choose to be a right wing extremist because nazis want to kill them

The capitalist system sustains itself on blood, and the priority transfusion list just happens to have trans people on it.

What honestly perplexes me is how little trans Marxist-Leninists there are, most I know and the majority I have seen are either social democrats who "just want healthcare", leftcoms who still believe some lies perpetuated about historic & theoretical Marxism-Leninism, or anarchists. Is there no sense of urgency? Is there no appreciation for the strength of a Vanguard Party against reactionary forces, or even the esthetics of a Woke Regime? Does depression bring idealist tendencies? It's all quite confounding.

Most transpeople are deleuze tiqqun reading stirnerite accelerationist nick land readers

>>3345
Trans people are more likely to be wage laborers but also realize that they could have been petite bourgeoisie or labor aristocrats. There's sort of an incentive to be made at the system when you're overwhelmingly poor and can tell you shouldn't be. This results in a lot of trans girls becoming left wing or Marxist leninists. A couple become reactionaries. Generally existing as a trans person sucks and communists offer an explanation for why things suck and how they can be better. Maybe it's just me but there's also a sort of comfort I feel reading the works of men who weren't shit and did try to make things better for everyone. It's like being taught by a kind father and most trans people had pretty shit parents
I'm rambling lol. Trans girls love lenin and stalin

>>3388
To be honest I think this is mainly a communist outreach program. Trans people generally just don't know of real Marxist Leninists and a lot of MLs "recruit" in the dumbest way possible. I try my best to tell other trans people that the bourgeoisie oppress them to maintain their class. It's hard to get them to listen. I really think it's worth it though, too many trans women get suckered into left liberal politics when they'd make great revolutionaries
>>3346
Yeah basically. The ideal place to convince people of communist practice is with a bunch of Latinos or in a trans support group at least here in burger
>>3347
Trans people can be reactionaries but they have some defense against it by most reactionaries being transphobes.

>>3396
> Okay but how do you reach out
Talk to them about how the president enforcing these policies is a representative of the bourgeoisie, how in Britain trans hate is fueled by the personal obsession of one rich woman. Talk to them about healthcare in socialist states like the GDR and Cuba. The GDR offered free bottom surgery and informed consent. A lot of them see themselves in the Palestinian cause, talk to them about how capital makes imperialism and colonialism inevitable. How Israel is heavily invested in by the American government and bourgeoisie. Be kind a lot of them will say dumb stuff at first but they'll realize eventually that you're right. Especially if you genuinely care about them and their lives

Sorry to wax for so long. I really do want to see my sisters become Marxists. Reading lenin changed my life to the better

>>3392
that's just the side effects of most of them being redditors

>>3406
I know, I know, hate using Chud language but it's true tbh. Although lots of people I know seem to be leftists in general which is what piqued my curiosity ending up with me here.

>>3388
Two things:

- This is not a transgender problem, this is an imperial core problem.
- Homophobic "Marxists" unfortunately were and are a thing. This is probably a mix of reactionary semi-feudal ideology in the periphery and reactionary ideology in the imperial core.

>>3482
Also I forgot to mention but queer people do not have a stable intergenerational community/counterculture the same way racial minorities do. So queer people have to learn everything from scratch.

higher autism score

Trans people have a higher intelligence and sense of morality than the average normie, hence they become communists often.

>>3345
>anti- discrimination laws
A law that'll not get enforced and toggle on and off with election cycles isn't as effective as abolishing hiring entirely and ensuring everyone has access to some sort of work.

>>3876
Even the grass touching trans people tend to be commies, but I suppose the non-grass touching ones tend to be friends with the grass touching ones.

>>3345
>I mean, I guess it could be the hiring discrimination they face, but you don't need to change economic systems to introduce anti- discrimination legislation.
Trans woman here. I'm afraid it goes deeper than that. While we can go on about how patriarchy enforces gender roles and maintains authoritarian methods to hinder queerness, it couldn't do so without capitalism.
That's not getting into the fact that one of the most powerful nations on earth- the united states government has created and passed legislation that severely limits and robs trans people of their autonomy.

The state wants us dead, and capitalists won't hire us lest we wind up stoking the ire of far right wing loons, or out of fear that we may be "too much", because politely asking to be gendered correctly is now seen as an attack.

Socialism and Communism of the 21st century is therefore a goal most of us want in our lifetimes. There's of course other reasons that are shared by everyone- how capitalism profits from genocide, ecocide, imperialism etc. But socialism is a system where everyone can benefit. Trans and cis alike.

Hope this helps anon. Wrote this to appeal to the laymen of the group.

>>3909
>Capitalism enabled the invention of queerness. It deterritorializes the social space, brought large cities with anonymity, and a culture of unrelated communities based on shared individualistic lifestyles rather than kinship.
Ahistoric and transphobic bullshit, though not be expected from a chinlet like you.
Our experiences as LGBTQ people and queers are literally shaped due to patriarchal exclusion and othering, this has always been the case. Capitalism didn’t invent queerness, we’ve existed for a long time before that

https://www.minus18.org.au/articles/queerness-across-cultures-and-throughout-history/

Furthermore, capitalism and the state have sought to police us and persecute us. These hubs and pubs as you say weren’t “promoting a lifestyle”. They were social spaces because everywhere else excluded us.

https://www.britannica.com/event/Stonewall-riots

>but read this historian
Your historian sounds like a pseudo intellectual loser, no wonder leftypol would be attracted to him.

>>3909
> Nobody is dropping bombs on you. Nobody is shoving you into camps. Nobody is starving you to death.

https://time.com/6326254/queering-the-map-gaza-lgbt-palestinians/

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/21/nx-s1-5305282/trans-inmates-federal-prison-policy-transfers

https://translegislation.com/

They say I may never be a woman. But I know for a fact that you will never be a revolutionary.

>>3910
I really wish people would actually read posts instead of kneejerk reacting to them.

Sure, an esteemed academic queer historian is a loser chinlet. I bet you didn’t even look him up.

>Capitalism didn’t invent queerness, we’ve existed for a long time before that
Queerness is a social construct. Sexuality is a social construct. There were no queers in the Middle Ages. There are no queers among Kalahari bushmen. Like all things, queer identity has a history and was invented in a time and place. Sure, same sex acts happened throughout history, but a gay identity is a modern Western invention. It emerged with the rise of industrial cities, leisure time, and businesses and establishments where like minded people could meet.

>capitalism and the state have sought to police us and persecute us. These hubs and pubs as you say weren’t “promoting a lifestyle”
Were those gay bars and nightclubs outside of the capitalist system? Were they not businesses? Weren’t they selling products and services? There’s nothing homophobic about capitalism and being queer doesn’t make you an enemy of the capitalist system. Just look at Peter Thiel. Being queer isn’t any different to having black hair or being a hockey player. There’s nothing just and noble about it. It’s just ordinary besides the occasional discrimination, which let’s face it only really happens to trans women these days.

>>3911
>LGBT Palestinians
That’s just despicable. Palestinians are being killed right now as we speak because of their ethnicity and religion, not because some of them are queer. The fact that you have used verbal gymnastics to insert your own group into the on going mass murder of another group of people is disgusting. You make me sick. You are not the victim here.

Yes, trans people are discriminated against and often violently attacked, but that’s not the same as being mass murdered by the government. The plight of trans prisoners is not the same as being kidnapped and sent to some Israeli hell hole or Guantanamo and force fed through your anus simply because of your religion. It’s not the same as having your land stolen from you or your family murdered in a drone strike. It’s not the same as being loaded up onto trains and sent to the gas chambers. “The state and capitalism just wants to kill us” if it did you wouldn’t be here. Get your head out of your ass you self aggrandizing asshole.

>>3909
>>3919
You're right about most of what you're saying but if you want to get people to engage with your argument you need to not act like an arsehole and use slurs targeted against your audience.

Also while trans people are not being put in camps (except for if they are children, except for in like half the world where it is illegal, and except for up until the 1960s when trans people were put in camps) it is very real possibility and it is not wrong to be scared about state violence as a minority group.

>>3929
>except for in like half the world where it is illegal
Often, being trans is not legal in many countries because the idea of transgender is not a thing in that society. It isn’t some universal thing. It’s only recently that people have begun identifying as trans and how that looks is very different from place to place.

>very real possibility
I don’t think that’s likely in the US or Europe. Trans people have enough supporters to rule that out. You are more likely to see discriminatory laws, lack of recognition, or bans excluding trans people from public activities, not concentration camps. People need to stop self-aggrandizing and playing into victim culture. It’s like a kid whining about how cruel his parents are because they won’t buy him a video game when there are kids out there who are starving or forced to work in sweat shops. Its being ungrateful.

>>3931
Being transgender is universal because capitalism is universal. It exists even in the the most semi-feudal places where there are still big landlords and people are mostly subsistence farmers. Transgenderism is most definitely a thing everywhere except for in remote tribes.

Even if it wasn't, gender non-conformity (in different social forms) is something in every society for all of human history. The oppression of gender non-conforming people is still relevant to the discussion of transgenderism regardless of if they fit the modern 'gender' or a type of indigenous 3rd gender.

>>3345
They're the big bad boogeyman of capitalist kkkulture warfare, but it won't be long until they have to find a new one as they did with homosexuals

>>3933
>Being transgender is universal because capitalism is universal.
That doesn’t even make sense.

>gender non-conformity (in different social forms) is something in every society for all of human history. The oppression of gender non-conforming people is still relevant to the discussion of transgenderism regardless of if they fit the modern 'gender' or a type of indigenous 3rd gender.
“Third gender” is just a place holder. It doesn’t have any meaning. And many of these indigenous genders don’t see themselves as non-conforming. Many human cultures have more than two sexes. So being a “third gender” is conforming to social expectation not struggling against it.

>>3919
> There were no queers in the Middle Ages. There are no queers among Kalahari bushmen. Like all things, queer identity has a history and was invented in a time and place. Sure, same sex acts happened throughout history, but a gay identity is a modern Western invention. It emerged with the rise of industrial cities, leisure time, and businesses and establishments where like minded people could meet.

Again, ahistoric nonsense.

https://time.com/5896685/queer-monks-medieval-history/

>gay identity is a modern Western invention. It emerged with the rise of industrial cities, leisure time, and businesses and establishments where like minded people could meet.

No the fuck it isn't, you moron.

Read the links.
https://www.minus18.org.au/articles/queerness-across-cultures-and-throughout-history/

>That’s just despicable. Palestinians are being killed right now as we speak because of their ethnicity and religion, not because some of them are queer. The fact that you have used verbal gymnastics to insert your own group into the on going mass murder of another group of people is disgusting. You make me sick. You are not the victim here.

Oh waah waah waah, straggot. You're deflecting that you got shown for the homophobic and transphobic loser you are. The point is, LGBTQ people are killed by Israel and not to mention they are deliberately targeted.

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/palestinian-queers-under-israeli-surveillance-and-threat/

https://profmoosa.com/how-israels-elite-intelligence-unit-targets-queer-palestinians-in-the-west-bank/

>Were those gay bars and nightclubs outside of the capitalist system? Were they not businesses? Weren’t they selling products and services? There’s nothing homophobic about capitalism and being queer doesn’t make you an enemy of the capitalist system

<Anon doesn't know about socialising
Explains a lot.

>>3965
>ahistoric nonsense
The idea of sexuality as a distinct domain of life is a modern European invention. While other historical periods and cultures recognized different sex acts, they didn't believe that each person as a 'sexuality' or in an idea of 'sexual orientation' as we know it today. Even the idea of gender as we know it today was a post-war invention. Simone De Beauvoir and other feminists popularized a distinction between sex (biological) and gender (social roles built around assumptions about gender). If you read any book about women or men in the 19th century, you'll notice they use they almost never use the word gender or use it interchangeably with sex.

See the following history publications:
History of Sexuality Vol. 1 by Michel Foucault
Sexual Politics, Sexual Communities: The Making of a Homosexual Minority in the United States, 1940-1970 by John D'Emilio
Before Homosexuality by Khaled El Rouayheb

>other cultures
In the 60s and 70s, there was a big effort by queer anthropologists to learn about how gay men or lesbians are treated in indigenous cultures and this simply amounted to inserting things where they didn't exist. I will quote from Weston:

>To say "I am a gay person" assumes the infusion of sexuality into total personhood in a way that might be incomprehensible to someone who touches the genitals of another man or woman in a society without a word for such an action. The experience of going to a gay bar… or engaging in lesbian feminist politics… contrasts sharply with the organization of homoeroticism in societies that have not formed "communities" based on sexual identity.
Source: Lesbian and Gay Studies in the House of Anthropology by Weston

Now you can say that there are plenty of people who identify LGBT today in places like India or China or whatever, but that's because of colonialism, social change, the internet, and globalization, not because being gay or transgender is hardcoded in the human DNA or something (another bullshit claim btw).

>Israel targets queers
If that's true, why don't they target their own queers? If Israel was anti-queer there's a bunch of queers at home they could bomb and kill but you don't see them doing that. As for those articles, every intelligence agency uses blackmail to find sources. Shin Bet and Mossad often target adulterers, people who see prostitutes or have mistresses etc. This is why intelligence agents are often asked if they've had any affairs, use drugs, see prostitutes, or engage in kinky/taboo sex when they are vetted. Part of the reason Anwar al-Awlaki went full jihadist was because the feds were trying to blackmail him because he slept with hookers. There's nothing specifically queer focused or even anti-queer about blackmailing people like this, unless you believe sleeping with prostitutes makes you queer. And I'm not about to give any sympathy to some guy who uses Grindr. Fuck people who use that app. Don't doxx yourself and complain about it later. These kind of articles are a crude attempt at inventing LGBT victimhood where it doesn't exist. Queers are not victims of Israel, Palestinians are. Some Palestinians happen to identify as queer. Its not as if being queer is like a Zionist's idea of being Jewish: a single tribe spread everywhere who's main loyalty is other members of the tribe.

This is why things like "why are transgenders commies" is silly. There's no reason trans people couldn't be fascists or imperialists or jihadists. Its simply a matter of context and the situation they are in and what it means to be trans looks in that scenario. There's nothing magical about trans people that makes them evil and there's nothing that makes them inherently noble and just either. I'm guessing the reason you see many trans communists and socialists is the same reason you see trans right wingers, namely the same thing that's happening across Europe and the USA: loss of faith in liberal centrism. Its just right wingers are less tolerant of trans people, leaving socialism and communism as easier options. Trans people aren't somehow separate or outside the rest of society and immune from wider social trends. They are just regular ass normal people who do normal people things. Making them exceptional plays into the same mindset that drives transphobia.

>>3967
>The idea of sexuality as a distinct domain of life is a modern European invention
This is indistinctive jibber jabber. First it's queerness being a european invention, when proven it wasn't, you then say it never existed, when BTFO on that you double down and make it about sexuality.

Which, again, is also easily disprovable you fucking pseud.

https://www.worldhistory.org/article/1790/lgbtq-in-the-ancient-world/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome

>Even the idea of gender as we know it today was a post-war invention. Simone De Beauvoir and other feminists popularized a distinction between sex (biological) and gender (social roles built around assumptions about gender). If you read any book about women or men in the 19th century, you'll notice they use they almost never use the word gender or use it interchangeably with sex.

<See the following history publications:
<History of Sexuality Vol. 1 by Michel Foucault
<Sexual Politics, Sexual Communities: The Making of a <Homosexual Minority in the United States, 1940-1970 by John D'Emilio
<Before Homosexuality by Khaled El Rouayheb

Which is a bunch of outdated anthropological texts, which I'm sure you've TOTALLY read.

<In the 60s and 70s, there was a big effort by queer anthropologists to learn about how gay men or lesbians are treated in indigenous cultures and this simply amounted to inserting things where they didn't exist. I will quote from Weston:

>To say "I am a gay person" assumes the infusion of sexuality into total personhood in a way that might be incomprehensible to someone who touches the genitals of another man or woman in a society without a word for such an action. The experience of going to a gay bar… or engaging in lesbian feminist politics… contrasts sharply with the organization of homoeroticism in societies that have not formed "communities" based on sexual identity.
Source: Lesbian and Gay Studies in the House of Anthropology by Weston

Which, again, outdated.

>Now you can say that there are plenty of people who identify LGBT today in places like India or China or whatever, but that's because of colonialism, social change, the internet, and globalization, not because being gay or transgender is hardcoded in the human DNA or something (another bullshit claim btw).

Once again, ahistorical. You're not very smart, are you?

https://sexinfoonline.com/the-third-gender-in-native-american-tribes/

<Before colonization mangled their culture, numerous Native American tribes accepted a third gender. The third gender (also known as “two spirits” or “two-spirited”) were biological males that were culturally identified as belonging to a gender that is separate from male and female. ² The population of a fourth gender, biological females that didn’t identify with the gender they were born as, was much smaller. According to Trista Wilson, there were about 155 Native American tribes that culturally accepted the third and fourth gender. ² Compared to many other Western societies, Native American tribes had tolerant ways of understanding sexuality and how important gender is for determining an individual’s identity.³ The third gender could be considered parallel to being transgender, but it is significant to note that people of the third gender did not take any measures to physically become a member of the opposite sex. Native American cultures believed that two-spirits had their own separate gender, and unlike modern Western society, there existed no attached stigma. It should be emphasized that these people were not considered homosexuals, and that the concept of third gender was less about sexual orientation (although third genders did form sexual relationships with same and different sex individuals) and more about gender roles. For example, a third gender woman would take on more female traditional roles, and their craft was favorable compared to the other women.

Let's do some more reading

https://bisialimifoundation.org/2024/10/24/honouring-our-past-shaping-our-future-lgbtq-history-in-africa-and-nigeria/

>Before colonialism, many African societies, including those in Nigeria, embraced diverse understandings of gender and sexuality. These societies developed social systems that recognized people outside the male-female binary, challenging Western concepts of gender. In the 16th century, the fully militarized community of the Imbangala people in Angola had “men in women’s apparel, with whom they kept amongst their wives.” Meanwhile, King Henry VIII in England was criminalizing sex between males with the Buggery Act of 1533.

>Even King Mwanga II, an openly gay monarch in present-day Uganda, had same-sex relationships which colonial missionaries later condemned. And the Zande warriors of Sudan? They engaged in same-sex relationships as social bonding. Queerness and fluidity were part of Africa’s cultural fabric long before colonization.

So much for it being a "western export"

Once again, BTFO.

>If that's true, why don't they target their own queers?
Stopped reading there.
They, do dickhead.

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sy6nehv4r
https://www.pressenza.com/2025/03/trans-israeli-refuser-ella-keidar-greenberg-sentenced-to-30-days-in-prison/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/transgender-teenager-jailed-for-refusing-military-service-in-israeli-defence-forces-idf-west-bank-palestinians-a6960541.html

>>3971
As if your Wikipedia articles and webpages count as scholarly research lol it seems that the opponents of social constructionist approaches to sexuality and gender have no real leg to stand on so they just accuse their opponents of being homophobes. Nobody denies that same sex stuff happened in other cultures and histories, but the idea of being gay and bellonging to a gay community etc. is barely 100 years old and more or less invented in Europe and America. This is established historical fact you are denying here.

>They, do dickhead.
>jailed for refusing military service
Did you not read this part? It’s not as if every trans person in Israel is in prison. Are they throwing Israeli Jewish LGBT into camps or not? No. You are not the victim of the genocide against Palestinians. There is no LGBT persecution in Israel aside from regular discrimination. Israelis aren’t carpet bombing people because they are queer you moron.

>>3973
>No one denies this
Except you when given direct evidence to the contrary, lol.
You can’t even form a coherent critique, you just spew dumb shit and see what sticks.

Trans and gay people have existed prior to the creation of capitalism, and there were queer cultures prior to its inception.

To do otherwise is to not just be a historical, but to be transphobic and homophobic.

So yes, calling you an ahistoric, transphobic and homophobic moron is a fitting description.

>>3974
>everyone who disagrees with me is transphobic/homophobic
Grow up. I’ve given you a handful of academic sources, all you give me are Wikipedia articles and accusations.

Oh no. I guess Michel Foucault was homophobic. John D’Emilio, esteemed queer historian, wrote about the historic invention of LGBT identities with the rise of capitalism. Professor of history, gay man, somehow was let into the Chicago LGBT hall of fame. I guess he’s a homophobe too. Go take a look at Johnathan Ned Katz, award winning queer historian, his book Invention of Homosexuality (1995). Somehow, the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force gave an award to this ahistoric homophobe. It all must be outdated and unhistoric because it’s not what I want to hear. Sure thing buddy.

Literally give me an example where Israelis say “we are bombing those Palestinians because they are queer.” Not homophobic slurs, but proof their genocidal intent is queerphobic in some way. The fact you even claim this is just nuts.

>>3981
> I’ve given you a handful of academic sources, all you give me are Wikipedia articles and accusations.
you mean a bunch of outdated anthropological texts, which again, were disproven ITT.
<but muh wikipedia
You mean the actual site which debunked your claim of there being "no queerness in distinct domain of life". Yeah if I was posting low quality arguments and got debunked my middling quality sources like you, I guess I'd be pretty mad too.

<but these people won awards
And that makes them exempt from criticism? Again, all you can do is parrot shit from the 20th century and get mad when it gets debunked by sources from the 21st.

>It all must be outdated and unhistoric because it’s not what I want to hear.
Unironically, yes.

Because again, you've been using this argument to bash trans and queer people throughout this entire thread.

>Grow up
You first, pookie :^)

>>4002
You need to get it out of your head that “modern construct” is bashing. My PC is modern and so is my Switch. It’s not a dirty word. Nothing wrong with being new.

First of all, scholarly work is about argument and evidence, not how new something is. I could make up some garbage about the moon being made of cheese, publish it, and brag about how it’s better that 30 year old NASA studies because it’s more recent, but that doesn’t make it true. Secondly, you provided no criticism of any of their points.

D’Emilio’s basic argument is that people who had same sex desires or engaged in same sex behavior were distributed throughout society. Industrial capitalism brought them all to cities where they developed a unique culture and identity and the notion of “being gay” was then invented. There’s nothing homophobic or ahistoric about this and simply pointing out that two guys fucked once 500 years ago doesn’t prove D’Emilio wrong.

You want to hold on to some essentialist understanding of identity, that LGBT identities are just baked into nature. Well nothing is. Come back when you’ve learned to do more than lame Wikipedia research and playing the homophobe card.

>>4005
>You need to get it out of your head that “modern construct” is bashing.

>still can't form a cohesive argument and still has to move the goal posts after being thoroughly BTFO
<Come back when you’ve learned to do more than lame Wikipedia research and playing the homophobe card.
Ok, lad.

Just in case you aren't the dipshit who deleted the posts I replied to, or who got banned, this is what I'm arguing against and what you're defending, lol.
>>3910
>>3911

I doubt a homophobe will have much of a fun time on /lgbt/.

>>4005
That's like saying heterosexual people never existed until industrial capitalism or for matter that "woman" and "man" never existed. Or it's also like saying "Black" or "white" people never existed before colonialism.

Of course, the bourgeois family never existed before industrial capitalism. But queer is a privative defined in terms of exclusion from straight bourgeois society. "Straight" is the social construct. Gay is not.

>>4114
>That's like saying heterosexual people never existed until industrial capitalism
That's true. Before the modern period, European society was much more sexually fluid and there were harsh punishments for sex acts that violated the moral law. Monks would mock 'marry' their cloister brothers while remaining celibate while sodomy was a mortal sin. Pederasty and child sexuality were common. Even then, the Church barely enforced punishments for sodomy until the Crusades, after which pederasty and sodomy became associated with 'Saracens' and Jews. Even the term 'heterosexual' was coined by Victorian sexologists like Krafft-Ebing as the mental disease of "excessive attachment to the opposite sex" way back in the 1880s.

>Or it's also like saying "Black" or "white" people never existed before colonialism.
If you were a Zulu tribesman in the 1600s, would you have identified yourself as a black person? As someone who's skin color was black? Its colonialism and enslavement that opened the door for a common black identity because it ripped enslaved Africans out of their native culture, severing their family ties, severing them from their language and region and placing them in a lower caste called 'black.' Its only through enslavement that people came to be classified according to their skin color and built a shared culture based on the class position they'd been forced into. There were no "black people" before colonialism. People saw themselves as Hausa, Igbo, Zulu etc. they related to their own tribes, languages, and religions, and practically everyone around them had dark skin, so there was no sense of being "black" as some special identifier. In texts written in native African languages like Ge'ez or Hausa, the authors never self identify as black.

>"Straight" is the social construct. Gay is not.
Straight and gay both go together. A straight person is someone who, by definition, is not gay and a gay person is someone who, by definition, is not straight. You can't know one without knowing the other. If queer is defined by exclusion from bourgeois society, then queer is a social construct because its contingent on bourgeois society for it to come into existence in the first place. Like how 'proletarian' is a product of bourgeois society and didn't exist before.

the political establishment on both ends have abandonment them. and also, transwomen are smart and cute and so are marxists. check mate liberals

>>3911
That person that you replied to should seriously consider working for Israel. Trans people aren't in camps yet because the hogs at the first stage of genocide, which is incitement of violence. Anybody that argues that the NatCons/fascists don't have explicit genocidal intent against anybody LGBT or that they're being "ironic" is nothing but a right-wing stooge.