/lgbt/ - LGBT

>needle phobia
I think there's clinics you can go to for a professional to do it, so it'd be the same procedure as getting a vaccine. I know a few people that got over their needle phobia thanks to HRT usage making them normal.
>effects on genitals
There's a type of testosterone creme you can use to keep the penis normal without effecting the rest of your body too much. That's how trans sex workers do it.
>I’m scared I’ll never experience true love with a straight man if I transitioned to being a woman.
T4T then? What you're observing is just generally common among queer folks, not just cisgays. See if you can get with trans man.

>>4150
>it’d be the same procedure as getting a vaccine
Well, I haven’t been able to get vaccines either. I’m overdo for my last two vaccinations, and I’ve tried multiple appointments to try again at getting them for both. However Everytime I just break down into a panic attack.

>testosterone creme
As in topical testosterone? I’ve heard a lot of conflicting things about them whenever I researched it. Mostly I saw people say that all it does is help prevent atrophy but it doesn’t stop the other side effects. Then again, I’ve never heard from anybody who actually uses topical testosterone directly.

>t4t
Yeah you’re probably right about that. I just don’t tend to see a lot about trans guys online lol

>>4149
>There’s so many things that seemingly make it impossible for me to start hrt.
they don't
either you take it or you don't, if you don't want to take it now then just don't, you can always start later if you change your mind
>but mlm relationships seem to be much more loving and deeper than straight relationships are
their isn't really a difference, people who think their is, are just seeing greener grass somewhere else
t bi guy

>>4153
But I can’t just start later. The longer I wait, the less chance there will be that I’ll pass.

get some good, highly concentrated e gel or spray. either find some local homebrew gal near you or try making it yourself. works for me, but ymmv.
woman up and get that blood test. the doctor is a professional, has done it a bunch of times and nothing will go wrong. tell them you have this fear but want to get a blood test. they can help you and once you've done it, it'll become increasingly easier in the future.
of course needles are still better, you won't have to apply as often and you can measure exactly how much you're injecting. but you can always switch to needles later.

What do you even want to aim for?

>>4158
I’ve had professional doctors try to give me shots before, told them about my fear and they tried everything to could to keep me calm but it still didn’t work.
>>4161
I honestly don’t know. I just want to look feminine and prevent age from making me more masculine. I don’t have any specific body goals, I just want to look like a woman.

>>4157
>The longer I wait, the less chance there will be that I’ll pass
That's not true until you hit your mid 20s

I enjoyed the genital changes lol
was already tiny at 4 inches and hrt made it like 2 inches soft, 3.5ish hard. it is…fun and cute imo. just my experience though. i liked watching as my orgasms became smaller and smaller until there was no ejaculation, the dry orgasms are intense too, you develop the female "full body" orgasm after a while and the nerves in my penis got more sensitive.

also the E and Prog make me horny af so I dont miss my old body. I never had multiple orgasms until HRT. that post orgasm "torture" feeling wasnt as intense and with a vibe I could hit a second orgasm about 10 seconds later. AMAZING EXPERIENCE FOR AN AMAB.

after a while I got orchiectomy so now I just have a penis and empty sack. not going beyond that bottom surgery wise. use a FuFu Clip or other type of feminizing chastity device that helps mimic a vagina feeling if you want to experience the dickless feeling. it is fun using a FuFu for a while but I go back to letting her be free sometimes too.

hmm I also got pretty decent tits. natural C cup (mom and sister had huge racks so I had the genes there, they are both D cups). i got implants on top of that after a few years…i couldn't live without my boobs at this point. permanent part of my psyche, my post HRT and post surgery body is what is in all my dreams. I cant think of any stronger proof that transition was right for me.

we all gonna die. compost in training. reach for what you want. but yeah waiting on HRT is risky if you are trans on the inside. teenage puberty is not our only growth spurt/change. humans get big hormonal and bone structure shifts multiple times in life. you will have further little development stages around age 25, age 30 and then again in your early 40s, then again late 50s/early 60s (this is where you start losing stuff like bone density and some height etc, exercise is huge at these ages for that reason).

this is why some people consider 21 the last train out of the station, if you aren't already ruined by testosterone at 21 you might be at 25/26 all of a sudden (tons of people hit male pattern baldness between 25 and 30). ideally i could have done all this as a youngshit but I was born in the late 80s, I was lucky to just be able to get stuff from InHouse in the 2000s, trans people had iffy support back then (now we have more support but also more hate) and I was shocked my parents even understood. maybe they didnt but they loved me enough to accept me.

ramble post cause I smoked a joint

>>4157

I know everyone wants to pass and be the perfect uwu elf girl or cat girl, but clinging to the concept of 24/7 stealth will destroy your mental health. you are gonna pass most of the time and then be totally devastated the first time you get misgendered despite being dolled up to the nines. it will hurt
bad
and it will happen. every good looking trans woman you see has gone through it and theyre lying if they say otherwise. irl is not an anime or video game sadly. if you are out and about and social the misgendering is gonna happen at some point, even if it is very rare.

if you are like some and you just sit on your PC all day, you get the benefit of being able to make everything as perfect and fake as you want. camera angles, lighting, makeup, filters, etc anyone can cheat online.

be out irl around 70,000 ppl at a hockey game or concert ir whatever. you have thousands of people able to see you in full real life 3D from every angle. it is impossible to be pure 24/7 because of this, just on random averages some people will clock you. it happens. it happens to the hot ones, the porn stars, the tiktok bunnies. you dont really ever get the perfect fantasy that you dream of.

pass to 99,999 people and that last one that clocks you is gonna break your heart. that is why passing culture is toxic. it drives transwomen to drink, swallow pills, cut and whatever other nasty shit we end up doing. seen it so many times.

>>4253
Logically, I agree with you. With that being said, I just wish I could have my cake and eat it too: having an actual presence irl as openly trans but also not being ugly as shite. It just sucks that I've been mostly secluding myself and biding my time. I feel I'm profoundly repulsive to cis people but also bad PR to other trans people because. I'm okay with not looking like a literal fictional character, but I just wish I clocked as human more than anything. Moving the goalpost but idk

>>4252
Just because you enjoyed them doesn’t mean I will. I don’t have bottom dysphoria and don’t see what’s cute about having a micro penis. This post just makes me even more terrified of taking estrogen

I’m already 18 so it’s probably too late for me. I’ll never be able to bring mysef to take estrogen before I’m 21 so I’m fucked. I’ll never be able to be a woman, I’ll be stuck as a disgusting man until I kill myself
>>4253
If I can’t pass then what’s even the point in transitioning. I should just give up if everyone is gonna see me as a man anyways

>>4149
>I have an extreme phobia of needles. It’s genuinely ruining my life. I know that there’s other forms of hrt that aren’t injections, but either way I would still need to use a needle on myself to do blood tests.
WTF, why would you ever do a blood test on yourself? How is that even possible? And if it helps, you can look away and close your eyes while it's being done.
>And then there’s the effects hrt has on the genitals. I would love every effect of hrt if it wasn’t for the effects it has on genitalia. I know using it will prevent atrophy, but it still won’t prevent my balls from shriveling up and the dck from shrinking. I don’t have bottom dysphoria and my genitals are one of the few parts of my body that I don’t actively hate.
If you just want to avoid possible ED, sildenafil and tadalafil are options. There's also testosterone cream for maintaining size ig.
>And lastly, I’m afraid I’ll miss out on the experiwnce of being a gay guy. I’ve never been in a relationship as a man, but mlm relationships seem to be much more loving and deeper than straight relationships are. I’m scared I’ll never experience true love with a straight man if I transitioned to being a woman. (Especially since many men who want to date trans women are just chasers)
That sucks. I've heard of straight trans women who don't have a lot of luck with straight men. You'll have to make the jump, though, I guess.

>>4265
Doesn’t all diyers do blood tests on themselves and then send it to a lab? That’s how I assumed it worked

Size is my main concern. If I could just find some actual confirmation that testosterone cream would maintain the size then I would start doing estrogen in a heartbeat. But I’m constantly hearing conflicting things about t cream

I already have no luck with men at all, so if my luck gets even worse when I transition then I’m probably never gonna be able to find love

>>4284
I've never done a blood test since it is like a hundred pounds

Do not do it
Do not fall for big pharma propaganda

>>4149
when I was 18 I was also like you anon, I had spent a good 4 years slowly accepting it while also taking less and less care of myself as I grew older. at some point, partially due to someone around me starting, partially because I wanted to die so bad I got it to a fuck it stage.
one day I ordered E gel from a DIY seller since then I started face laser, I got more into my local trans community, I found better hrt gel sources within my country, started having a social life with those people and eventually switched to injections. since then I've moved away from that hellish place, I got a job, started a new social life as a woman, changed my documents, bought a house and things are by no means perfect but I am much happier than I was when I was drinking my guts away because I hated my life so much. doing it, even if out of spite was the right choice, even if I made mistakes alone the way, even if I started uncovering other problems that needed addressing, even if some experiences still hurt.
if you can't do it out of fear, do it out of spite.

>>4394
Thank you, but tbh I’m not even sure I’ve even fully come to a realization since I frequently second guess my trans ness and sometimes just wish to be a femboy.

I have acrually ordered hrt recently sometime after I made this thread. But I feel like I’m probably gonna pussy out when it actually arrives. Even when it arrives and if do go through with it, then it’s only a matter of time before I need to get blood tests or injections and I’ll never be able to do those. I can’t just spite my way through a needle

Without blood tests and without being able to eventually switch to injections, I’m probably gonna end up a conetitted hon with blood clots. It’s over for me

>>4284
I've been DIY for 5 years without a single blood test, heard a litany of things from various people about how that's bad or whatever but I've not had any problems and I'm very happy with my transition. I've definitely never heard of any DIYer doing their own blood test. Depending on your location you can likely get blood tests done at an actual clinic for a fee, though that doesn't get rid of your fear of needles. Personally I'd recommend you just stop being a pussy over some thin strips of metal because you're really hamstringing yourself by avoiding it completely. If you inject properly and actually clean the injection site and use proper dosages you aren't going to turn out a "hon", and quite frankly even if you do pussy out and wind up going the route of pills you'll be just fine. The only reason I do injections is because pills are far, far, far more expensive to do and maintain correct doses (actually, I believe it's practically impossible to maintain in the same way injections work, but I haven't seen anything in the literature indicating that this has a serious effect, otherwise we wouldn't be literally prescribing shitty little 2mg estrofem pills to women going through menopause.)

Anyways, quit being a pussy.

>>4455
Why are you such a dick? I don’t just have a fear of needles, it’s a full blown phobia that I cannot control. I can’t just fucking get over it. I’ve tried everything my therapist told me to try to get over it and nothing worked.

Of course you had no problems with your transition because you did injections, which are more precise than pills. I can’t do that so I’m fucked. It was stupid of me to ever think I could have been a woman in the first place and I plan to throw out my hrt when it arrives and then end my life once I move out of my parents house

>>4461
Like I already said pills are just fine. YMMV but if you're sitting here spiraling like shit already hit the fan over a leftypol post then yeah, you're going absolutely nowhere. I'm a dick because you need to gyst instead of sitting on leftypol bedrotting and bemoaning your situation on your iPhone. If you wanted a hugbox with a bunch of people saying "noooo oomfie its gonna be okay" then maybe you should join a Discord server and not make a post here expecting everyone to be all goodie little two-shoes nice to you. You not taking or taking your estrogen is a decision, and it's entirely up to you. Just take pills if you're that damn scared of needles, like I already said, it's not that big of a deal and levels when taking pills properly aren't that far off from injections. I know plenty of trans girls that've taken pills for years and they turned out absolutely fine. Taking estrogen at all is better than no estrogen and probably better than killing yourself too.