/lgbt/ - LGBT

I agree that, for something to be a gender , it needs to be part of the wider culture in some sense, like third genders are in the pre-modern world. I would argue though
>experiencing a coming-of-age complex, wanting to return to their pre-pubescent, gender-neutral childhood
meets this criterium in the west, particular in regards to protestant purity culture, even if i don't necessarily think it's a beneficial outlook on life.

>>5227
>wanting to return to their pre-pubescent, gender-neutral childhood.
there is no such thing.
humans are gendered and sexed almost immediately after birth

but even then, the condition of being gender non-conforming IS the condition of NOT being incorporated into cisheteronormativity.

It is normative gender and sex that are constructed, not the other way around.

You are peddling essentialism

>>5227
being nonbinary/agender is the only option sanctioned by the monad. gender is a physical burden

>Non-binary and other invented genders aren't truly gender identities.
Congradulations on refuting gender as a construct and rendering everypony agender.
>But this isn't gender dysphoria
Not a prerequisite to transness. Transness is non-cisness, that's it.
>and non-binary people often don't take any hormones
Irrelevant and unsubstantiable. Non-binary is literally just when someone isn't unambiguously and without caveats binary.
>"normal adults"
[sets flag to stirner]
>[waving at statistics-shaped vibes with "many" and "often"]
Unsubstantiable, take a college writing course to learn to write like you aren't scared of making a concrete statement.
>>5234
>humans are gendered immediately after birth
Either you mean assignment, which is largely irrelevant here, or you're being essentialist.

>Non-binary and other invented genders aren't truly gender identities
if a person can be fully trans there's no reason *they* can't be partially trans, in fact in the brain studies done on trans people they've found them to be dissimilar to both cis males and females

>wanting to return to their pre-pubescent, gender-neutral childhood
i want absolutely *nothing* to do with my childhood as does every other person (enby or not) who's experienced trauma

>But this isn't gender dysphoria, and non-binary people often don't take any hormones
before taking hormones my body was absolutely intolerable. my brain is made for an androgynous body

>they're cisgender heterosexuals
lol ok bud

COPE.

>>5293
Yeah I think OP just fundamentally doesn't understand what cisgenderism is and thus lacks a foundation to understand what transgenderism is.

>>5294
>>5295
most people don't understand what a non-binary person is because western cultures especially tend to not recognize us. before i realized about myself my understanding of trans people was basically everything chuds say and i had no conception of non-binary at all. i always felt really weird about my body and the gender role i was being pushed into but couldn't imagine myself as the opposite gender. then i met a couple non-binary people and then i realized…

>>5292
It's relevant because gender is socially constructed ergo your gender is constructed by society enforcing it on you. Either you are successfully conscripted, or fall through the cracks and become one of the "undesirable" genders, but there is no such thing as "pre-gendered" existence as long as gendered society exists.

>>5303
Ah, I failed to grasp the importance of "after" in your post and misinterpreted.

>>5227
>wanting to return…after a couple of years, become normal adults.
"Noooo you're a reactionary for wanting to return to a status quo before being transformed into a domesticated neoliberal subject whose gender is categorized as a single binary digit value in IBM's holocaust computer systems. You will never become illegible to the fascist corporate state!!!! You must make yourself legible so that the State can see you!"
<The book 'Seeing Like a State' makes an argument that states seek to force "legibility" on their subjects by homogenizing them and creating standards that simplify pre-existing, natural, diverse social arrangements. Examples include the introduction of family names, censuses, uniform languages, and standard units of measurement. While such innovations aim to facilitate state control and economies of scale, Scott argues that the eradication of local differences and silencing of local expertise can have adverse effects.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeing_Like_a_State
>this isn't gender dysphoria,
you believe that the subjectivity of humans who still have souls is a medical problem that should be solved with PMC therapy from fascist bureaucrats. Dialectical materialism shows that the human species has countless evolutionary forms and variants that have all been wiped away for the sake of capitalist objectification of their slave commodities. Its like how you can only find one or two versions of a specific product at your local store. LGBT more like Sugar-free Pepsi!
>the LGBT community,
the whites-only gated community of soulless settler Israelis is baffled and confused by their indigenous slaves having normal human lived experiences that aren't legible to Microsoft's dogshit AI

>>5306
I remember on Cohost when Discord first started allowing users to request their data, users found it was trying to guess people's gender, and they graphed it's confidence of blue line for male and a pink line for female and found the charts to be incredibly noisy, almost pseudo-random for trans people. Being trans, especially non-binary, is theoretically great for your infosec since that's a whole parameter rendered unintelligible.

>>5308
> Being trans, especially non-binary, is theoretically great for your infosec since that's a whole parameter rendered unintelligible.
No, being a regular cis John is much more anonymous.

>>5308
idk if thats still true it probably marks you as trans now

>>5292
> Unsubstantiable, take a college writing course to learn to write like you aren't scared of making a concrete statement.
In our survey of 271 non-binary Australians, 66 per cent had used or wanted hormone therapy.
Among the non-binary survey respondents presumed female at birth, nearly half reported that they were using testosterone therapy. In non-binary people presumed male at birth, 59 per cent reported they were currently using gender-affirming hormone therapy to either increase oestrogen or to decrease testosterone.
If we look at gender affirming surgery, nearly half of the non-binary people we surveyed had or wanted surgery.
In non-binary people presumed female at birth, 23 per cent of people surveyed wanted but had not had any type of surgery. In non-binary people presumed male at birth, 26 per cent desired surgery but haven’t accessed it yet.
https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/non-binary-people-have-hormone-therapy-and-surgery-more-often-than-you-might-think
>>5293
> before taking hormones my body was absolutely intolerable. my brain is made for an androgynous body
If you have gender dysphoria and hormones help, I have no complaints. For me, HRT is much more important than social transition.

I don’t know about you, but I personally don’t like gendered distinctions. Russian has strict grammatical gender everywhere, and I don’t like that. When I speak in the feminine form, I feel fake and not taken seriously. When I speak in the masculine form, I feel uncomfortable. I wish the language were fully gender-neutral everywhere, like the Turkic and Uralic languages. I don’t like gender-oriented words and phrases; I’d rather be called “comrade” than “dude.” In real life, I’d like to be both cute and serious, depending on the time and my mood.

>>5316
cute should not contradict serious, there's nothing inherent in cuteness that is at odds with seriousness 𐔌՞. .՞𐦯
>but I personally don’t like gendered distinctions.
same tbh

op is a reactionary

kill yourself red chudlet

>>5372
You are too aggressive and stupid

I identify as non-binary and I am also genetically non-binary, i.e. I am intersex and was born with XXY chromosomes. A geneticist drew blood from my body and looked at the cells under a microscope and found an extra X chromosome. I was assigned male at birth and have male genitalia, slightly smaller balls than average but otherwise pretty normal. I started developing breasts at around age 12 or 13 or so and I didn't go through male puberty until age 19 and it was sort of incomplete, I'm 36 now and I can't grow full facial hair and I have very little body hair, my pubic hair grows in a female pattern instead of the male pattern, etc.

You might be saying now, "that's intersex not non-binary you freak" but what the fuck is the difference? Your brain, your personality, your hardwired mental state - that's part of your physiology, just like every other organ in your body is. Non-binary at the genetic level or non-binary at the hormonal level or non-binary at the neurological/psychological level - it's all equally non-binary. Sex is non-binary. Gender is non-binary. Everything is non-binary, because the universe is not a computer simulation where things have discrete states like 0 or 1 or male or female or on or off, the universe is an analog system all the way down to the fundamental level, everything is a spectrum, everything is fuzzy no matter how closely you zoom in and try to reduce it down to basic yes or no answers.

How's that for a TRVTHNVKE, faggot?

Also don't bother trying to delete the thread to save yourself from the embarrassment OP, it's no use. I have screenshotted your post and my brilliant rebuttal for posterity in lossless .PNG format and I will personally see to it that this monument to your stupidity and humiliation will be preserved in my RAID array for generations to come.

>>5428
>Grab a towel, you're clitty leaking all over the place.
>>Also don't bother trying to delete the thread to save yourself from the embarrassment OP, it's no use. I have screenshotted your post and my brilliant rebuttal for posterity in lossless .PNG format and I will personally see to it that this monument to your stupidity and humiliation will be preserved in my RAID array for generations to come.
>Pure narcissism and autism. Take your meds

Actually I have been diagnosed with autism as well, it's extremely common in people with XXY chromosomes, which ought to tell you that autism is also an intrinsic hardcoded physiological trait and not just a social construct or a phase or some behavior that can be corrected, certainly not something you can alter by "taking your meds" as you seem to believe with your RFK Jr-tier understanding of medical science. Also you were too slow at deleting your retarded rebuttal, but nice try I guess.

If I were you I would just cut your losses at this point, you're only making it worse.

Wrong. Most NB is not hebemorphic
It's more gynomorphic.

lol gottem gj anon

the extremely zealous insistence on these outmoded simplistic pseudoscientific models of human biology is sort of like newspeak in 1984, an absurd hamfisted attempt to iron out all nuance and diversity and individuality for the sake of total conformity. narcissistic control freaks want to reduce unpredictable and inconsistent human beings into interchangeable disposable modules.

Does risperidone help with autism?

>>5470

Risperidone is an atypical antipsychotic. I haven't taken it personally but I've tried a few antipsychotics over the years like Seroquel and Zyprexa and in my experience these drugs tend to make you more emotionally flat, sort of tired and drowsy and feeling like you're not fully awake all the time, and they often cause weight gain and metabolic side effects, I think risperidone can also cause hormonal side effects such as gynecomastia in rare cases. The side effects tend to be numerous and unpredictable and affect everyone very differently.

I'm not a doctor or anything but from what I've learned, I would say that atypical antipsychotics, particularly ones like Risperidone or Seroquel or Zyprexa, are rather heavy-duty drugs, commonly used as a sedative for people who are freaking the fuck out because they take effect immediately and they tend you knock you out especially when you first start on them. Most doctors don't like to prescribe them unless they think there's a good reason to, and if they do they would prefer it be a temporary emergency measure than a continuous regimen, trying the safer and less drastic options first before pulling out the big guns. For example they might give a suicidal patient an antipsychotic to calm them down and just let them sleep it off, but for a schizophrenic having recurring chronic psychosis all the time they might have to take an antipsychotic every day for the rest of their life, continually having to moderate dosage and try different options as tolerance builds up or side effects become too problematic. They're sometimes used off-label for irritability in autistic patients, i.e. autistic children throwing violent tantrums and potentially hurting themselves or others - that would be a case where a doctor might have to take drastic measures and prescribe antipsychotics, but any competent psychiatrist would want to avoid that option if possible and not risk disrupting the child's normal growth and development unless it's literally a matter of life and death.

When I took Seroquel years ago it just made me too drowsy and out of it to even function at all and I was sleeping most of the day away. I tried Zyprexa for a while and initially that one helped a lot with my anxiety and depression but it was diminishing returns, after being on it for a couple weeks or so the positive effects seemed to fade but the side effects remained, drowsiness and oversleeping and weight gain and all the rest of it and I couldn't form thoughts as coherently and had trouble remembering things and I got off it and it took weeks for the side effects to finally go away. Abilify is another antipsychotic I tried, that one is supposed to be more mild and well tolerated than the others, but it didn't seem to do anything to me. I was prescribed all these drugs long before I was diagnosed with autism, often by incompetent psychiatrists that were just writing prescriptions willy nilly and didn't really give a shit, so be wary of doctors who are quick to resort to these heavy-duty drugs before trying something else first.

>>5486

Yeah because your time is so valuable right?

>>5485
I used to take risperidone as a child and I grew up chronically lazy, a bit apathetic and I have man tits and Idk if it's gyno or just fat, it's very flabby, soft and not pointy so I think is body fat but idk