How do I get over my hatred of masculine men? All throughout my school years I was relentlessly bullied by jocks and such because I wasnt into typical masculine things and because i was too emotional. Ive felt extreme resentment towards masculinity ever since.
The only men im able to be attracted too are other feminine boys like myself, aswell as older men. Meanwhile it seems like the vast majority of gays feel attraction almost exclusively to hyper-masculine men, and talk about their attraction like being attracted to masculinity is an inherent part of being gay. It has made me feel so isolated and made me feel invalidated in my sexuality.
Part of me feels like masculinity is inherently evil, I feel like it encourages meanness, arrogance, and cruelty by its design. Plus, seeing masculine guys constantly get praised while every other type of male never gets anywhere near as much love, it just makes me even angrier. My resentment is so deep-seated at this point that im not fully sure if I can even change it.
i kinda feel the same way i think dudebros are annoying and retarded and ive always felt contempt for aggressive and competitive morons who only act that way because deep down they just have a thirst for blood like animals. hypermasculine homosexuality really disgusts me because it's often expressed in this way. im not gay i only like femboys though. i often feel like a gay guy who had some wires crossed in the womb. im not pretty enough to be a softboy, and honestly i dont want to be, im comfortable with my reasonable level of masculinity. i dont want to be trans but i sometimes feel like i have a female oriented brain because i enjoy the company of women more often because they're less judgemental, appreciate art and aesthetics and music more, and usually more nuanced about things.
>Part of me feels like masculinity is inherently evil, I feel like it encourages meanness, arrogance, and cruelty by its design.
i think when it gets out of control, it certainly does. a healthy level of masculinity however encourages hard work, sacrifice for your loved ones, protection, education, ethical behavior, and positive morality, at least imo.
>Plus, seeing masculine guys constantly get praised while every other type of male never gets anywhere near as much love, it just makes me even angrier. My resentment is so deep-seated at this point that im not fully sure if I can even change it.
i think softboys get plenty of love, especially from girls. i understand though how other men often bully softboys because 1. softboys are threatening, and masculine dudes are actually afraid that women might like them more than traditionally masculine men, 2. because often men feel they have a duty to "mentor" other men even if they never asked for it. personally i like other guys who appear to be sensitive because they remind me of myself.
Honestly OP you just have to remember that to some men masculinity is a cage they willingly put themselves in. Don’t focus on what others think, act, or do. Comparison is the root of all evil. Some gays like masc, others like twinks and femboys. There is a person for every body type. Some don’t even care about body types.
Just focus on what you like and enjoy that for what it is, not for what others see.
As a trans woman, some like clocky girls while others do not. And thats okay.
>>5350Glad to know im not the only guy who feels this way, thank you. I also relate to feeling like having a more "female" oriented brain.
>i think softboys get plenty of love, especially from girls.True, I suppose I just dont see them getting much love since I mostly spend time only in gay male online spaces.
However, I dont think that masc men tend to bully softboys because they feel threatened. I believe its moreso a barbaric urge to hate things that are different and the masculine desire to dominate the weak.
>>5356Comparison is likely the root of many of my problems, but its hard for me to stop when its like almost all online social spaces are designed to provoke self-comparison.
I know theres guys out there who would like my body type, but I just wish I saw more appreciation for my bodytype within the gay community.
But even then, i still feel hate for the worship of masculinity, not just because jealousy, but also because I see masculinity as something evil that shouldnt be praised or promoted.
>>5362>True, I suppose I just dont see them getting much love since I mostly spend time only in gay male online spaces. Tbh something surprised me as a masc4fem bisexual guy getting into online gay spaces was how many guys are looking for the same type as themselves. I was disappointed a number of times looking at some cute femboy's profile on Grindr only to see that they're looking for other femme guys.
>However, I dont think that masc men tend to bully softboys because they feel threatened.I only bully them when they like it :3
>>5363What surprised me was how many guys WERENT fem4fem or masc4masc. It just makes sense to me to want someone whos similar to myself. I dont really understand why some guys like guys who are the complete opposite of them lol
>I only bully them when they like it :3I wouldnt consider you a bully then, I see that more as just roleplaying rather than actual bullying. Atleast to me, real bullying has the intention to cause misery to the victim.
>>5404>I dont really understand why some guys like guys who are the complete opposite of them lolWell from a sexual perspective I like the feeling of completely physically dominating my partner, just being way bigger and stronger than them. From an emotional/personality perspective I guess I like feminine guys because it's easier for me to feel useful by doing things they can't or don't want to do (carrying heavy stuff, getting rid of spiders, etc).
>I see that more as just roleplaying rather than actual bullyingYeah it definitely is. My actual personality with a cute guy I like is more like a giant teddy bear they can cuddle and extract fresh cum from.
>>5362>I see masculinity as something evil that shouldnt be praised or promoted.Lol me but with femininity.
Edgy comments presented as jokes thus making the mods unable to confidently value the post aside, those archetypes (atleast from when I graduated high school back in 2018) are dead since everyone just goes on their phone.
Past that, think of the material reality, and seperate the traits from each other and evaluate on each one individually to get a fuller picture.
The jock is cringe, but is working out is? Y'know, the thing so good for your health it even reduces cancer?
The dudebro is cringe (I guess?), but is a party culture of having a good time is? Or the jokey aspect of wanting to marry or eben fuck your best friends?
Tldr: stop thinking like a feminist or else you will at some point defend child rape to argue for pink fascism, (something you can do even being a token moid for their cause)
>>5408party culture is super cringe and all the morons who engage in it are low autism score uncivilized fyckboys
>>5406this is why I hate being a femboy top. Masculine dudes only want to dominate me and fem bottoms only want to be dominated by masc guys. ill likely never find a boyfriend bleh
>>5418There are guys who want girls to peg them. It stands to reason that there are guys who'd be down with bottoming for a femboy. I'd be open to it tbqh.
Why get over it? Just keep hating them that's what I do and it's never been a problem, I don't need any hypermasculine dudebro friends they have absolutely nothing to contribute to my life and I am doing perfectly well without them and their noise and their stink and their mommy issues and their dull repetitive hobbies and horrific taste in art and their utter inability to read a room or talk about anything interesting at all.
>Part of me feels like masculinity is inherently evil, I feel like it encourages meanness, arrogance
You mean machismo?
Seriously how do people stand the stink that comes off of masculine guys? They either smell like BO, or they smell like a chemical toilet from some horrible cologne/aftershave/deoderant that always has a sailboat on the bottle.
>>5439I could say the same about perfume and whatnot
>>5439Women have BO too you know
I think the average zoomer/millennial has at least a touch of femininity to them, the absolutely disgusting masculine-at-any-cost types that smell like shit are usually boomers.
>>5440Horrible pungent perfumes are more of an old lady thing, most women stopped spraying on that shit a long time ago.
>>5442Enough of the genpol
There's no "touch of femininity" in zoomer/millennial males on average.
And boomers are not really "masculine at all costs" as much as "fuck you I got mine".
OP has a warped sense of masculinity and femininity
>>5410Women are active in that scene as well
>>5445>Enough of the genpolno I don't think so
I'm 33 and I interact with a lot of different age groups regularly because of work and family
On average there are unquestionably major differences
>>5362Your idea that masculinity is automatic rape and pillage is distorted.
There are guys who enjoy more civilized things without being feminine.
Also femininity has a dark side too just like masculinity but we aren't ready for that conversation
>>5350>i dont want to be trans but i sometimes feel like i have a female oriented brain because i enjoy the company of women more often because they're less judgemental, appreciate art and aesthetics and music more, and usually more nuanced about things. Really? Men don't enjoy music or art and aren't nuanced?
I've never experienced that.
>>5362>However, I dont think that masc men tend to bully softboys because they feel threatened. I believe its moreso a barbaric urge to hate things that are different and the masculine desire to dominate the weak.Are you familiar with how women bully other women whom are not feminine?
>>5449The only music and art men are allowed to enjoy is trap, rap and heavy metal
Anything else is a subject of bullying and scrutinity
>>5481Again this doesn’t ring true
If anything, I meet more men whom are into indie, old school R&B, classical, and jazz
>>5449>Really? Men don't enjoy music or art and aren't nuanced?>I've never experienced that.sure, you'll find plenty of men who are into niche interests, but the male tendency for aggressiveness and competition often turns conversation into pissing contests. the key point i was making is that women are less judgemental and often better listeners. men make snap judgements about everyone they meet, but women are less quick to assume things, on the whole. this also makes women more nuanced in practice, even if lots of men are capable of it.
>>5490Now this is a cope of I ever heard one.
Yes, men are prone to competition but so are women.
Also women are better listeners in terms of finding flaws to patronize you with
Women also make snap judgements just like men.
>>5490>women are less quick to assume thingsAnon… I don’t know what to say about this. Either you lucked out or you’re just allowing your dispassion for men cloud your judgement
>>5570>>5569I notice that usually whenever people like to brag about their favored demographic being more virtuous than their respective counterparts, said favored demographic usually does the opposite of alleged virtue
Kill yourself, obsessed faggot.
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