hello i’m transpecies elf, dragon, and werewolf and overall an alterhuman in general. i also want to be a shapeshifter sometime in the future too or something like a squid. i wonder if transpecies would be considered just as valid and acceptable as transhumanism in the future or would it even be possible to be “fully” transpecies (changing from one animal to another physically and perhaps biologically as well in the sense it’s similar to transitioning)
https://otherkin.wiki/wiki/Transspeciesart creds vv
https://www.reddit.com/r/dragons/comments/1i06mdt/dragon_drawing_i_recently_completed/I keep telling people that furries, kinnies, therians, your trans-species: They're all an unrecognized type of queer. Species-queer. There's the massive overlap with gender/sexual queer demographic. And the fact that it's not simply zoophilia but involves a strong identification. Idk whether queers will ever accept it tho, they seem too humanist
im glad most queers do gatekeeping theres literally nothing to gain from associating with mentally ill memelords, absolutely irrelevant outside of the internet
>>5519>There's the massive overlap with gender/sexual queer demographiclol sheltered terminally online autist
>they seem too humanistits called not being retarded, nothing to do with philosophy shit
Based but probably too advanced for the recovering* reactionaries that'll see it on the overboard.
I wish I was as unemployed as OP.
i don't think of it too spiritually or literally, but if i wasn't such a repressed loser i'd be a therian/otherkin type.
i don't think it's a 1:1 analogy with transgenderism (in that a biological explanation for being born the wrong sex is easy, while one for the wrong species is more difficult) but i don't particularly think that matters. if i feel more like a dog than a person and a sub-set of people are happy to go along with that, and the only consequences that flow from that is that i'm less miserable, what do the literal whats-and-whys of the matter… matter? what does a dog care for rigid taxonomy?
but of course, the fact i think of it at such a level is one of the other things holding me back. i'm too realist, not a "true believer" if you like. however i may feel, i've rationalized it too much. i am an unusual person, but one who has internalized "don't be weird" just enough to always be unhappy.
>>5519based
>>5521gatekeeping causes a lot of problems and respectability politics and also enables conservatism even further just like what you are doing right anon
>>5522they already found this post judging by the glowie’s response
>>5524chronically online*
i used to have a job at one point in high school. im currently unemployed as my household is planning to move out soon in the far future
>>5526right now* grammar mistake
>>5528
i’m fine unlike you. self projection as usual from reactionaries
>>5535least enraged fed (they’re a reactionary in denial about identifying as “non human” and contributes nothing to activism)
activism is hard these days especially in a society that would kill you for being apart of a marginalized groups or takes negative actions against anybody who isn’t 35+
and it seems like you have a thing for neets. why don’t you have sex with one or help them get a job instead?
>>5518nope
>>5534holy mald
>>5517"Transpecies" is not the same as transgender. Whatever "transpecies" is, it seems unrelated to the bourgeois family.
Furries are a subculture which is notable for attracting a lot of queer and neurodivergent people.
Transgender people face political violence due to the family and "biological sex" which originate in social divisions of domestic labor and the need of the bourgeoisie to track the inheritance of private property. Look into Engels and Angela Davis.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/index.htm https://www.marxists.org/subject/women/authors/davis-angela/housework.htm . I also recommend Harry Braverman's "Labor and Monopoly Capital". "Biological sex" is superstructure and the family is part of the material base as a remnant of feudalism.
>>5544tbf i think most of the board just doesn't care. the only real negative poster is a glownonymous coward.
i wish i'd used cohost when it existed
>>5543I also want to expand on bodily autonomy under capitalism.
The real subsumption of labor standardizes the means of production towards a "normal" body-mind. Through systems such as Talorism, the means of production are adjusted more and more to conform to the fastest and most able workers. With the assembly line, all workers are forced to work at the speed of the fastest worker. In this sort of fashion, the capitalists wring the life out of the workers. Vid semi-related.
The disabled tend to settle in the reserve army of labor and used in super-exploitive handicraft. In general, accommodations for the disabled could be made to squeeze out more labor but this is incompatible with the overheads of managing labor. As the capitalist marketplace expands due to the direct and indirect socialization of labor these sorts of logistical overheads get bigger and bigger resulting in a more and more illiquid labor market and raising unemployment (particularly of the disabled). Typically, people think of unemployment in terms of finance and trade but finance and trade is merely an indirect way of managing labor.
So the material base of disability is the real subsumption of labor, finance and merchant capital. In advanced capitalist countries finance and merchant capital fuse with industry and the state to become state-monopoly capital. To a significant extent, the large monopolies define what disability is. If gmail is not accessible to the blind then the blind cannot work an office job. The same applies in other areas of life.
You cannot be disabled or be a dragon under capitalism because the real subsumption of labor relies on a certain kind of "normal" body and there is too much managerial overhead to accessibility accommodations. But this is a very different issue from being transgender.
>>5546So basically the problem with transgender is that capitalism requires the oppression of women to resolve inheritance disputes between capitalists and that capitalism has not yet fully industrialized domestic labor. IMO capitalism struggles to industrialize domestic labor largely because the wealthiest workers and the petty-bourgeoisie immediately invest in buying real-estate for themselves and so resulting in urban sprawl. Engels on the housing question is semi-relevant
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/housing-question .
The problem with disability and "transpecies" is the real subsumption of labor and the inability of capitalists to properly manage labor in the ever-expanding market. The anarchy of the market makes it increasingly impossible for the capitalists to handle the tasks of HR and assigning workers to and from different jobs. Only a centrally-planned system can use the full labor-power of the workers.
Transgender and "transpecies" just aren't the same subject. Also you're being an obvious troll.
Not even the most socially inept Bluesky-dwelling aspie takes this shit seriously, tbh.
>>5545they’re probably a fed or a troll
>>5544
>we'll probably be as normal as blueskyi heard that website is filled with annoying millennials and apparently there was some drama around it a couple months ago. it would definitely be interesting to see this place end up like cohost, bluesky, or the fediverse
>>5550i don’t use 4chan. try again
>>5550a /pol/ wouldn't have restraint to be normal about it, there'd be traces of spaghetti. The reason you can't discern it is because you don't know much about therians.
>>5551I definitely reccomend fedi over bluesky, bluesky is basically just a bunker a bunch of artists that couldn't wrap their heads around federation stuck to and will probably bail from soon. That said, the average blueskier is fairly normal about advanced queer stuff, but occasionally has discourses you'd expect of like 2014 tumblr or pre-zuckerberg tiktok.
>>5550who cares
why would i pretend to hold a closed-minded position against some slightly odd but ultimately harmless people trying to be happy just because /pol/ might see me doing it?
normalize kink shaming again
>>5562kink shaming turns me on
>>5549I'm a normie with a job and this thread makes me feel so seen lol
Trans anything is obsolete concept along with gender. You do not need it to describe someone's preferences, personality or dysphoria.
>>5695i love how these vacuous feelgood claims pop up the most when governments want to literally ban transitioning
>>5517> i wonder if transpecies would be considered just as valid and acceptable as transhumanism in the future All forms of transitioning are valid.
>in the future or would it even be possible to be “fully” transpecies (changing from one animal to another physically and perhaps biologically as well in the sense it’s similar to transitioning)Yes. In the future you will be able to transition to other species through genetic therapy or even possible to become bispecies(See: catgirls)
I want to be one of them 👽
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