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Why do so many trans allies think sex is immutable? Don't hormones and surgeries at least partially change it? A passoid with SRS is much closer to a woman than a man.
They're just as chromosomal reductionists as the right.

>>5987
>Why do so many trans allies think sex is immutable?
Same reason they think banning trans women from sports has any sane justification; right wing astroturfing.

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>>5996
Aren't the mainstream lib/left and right funded by the same source?
Essentially, if you think about it, they're pushing the same agenda.
>Trans is about self-identification
>Gender is a social construct
>You don't need HRT to be trans
>Sex can't be changed

>>5987
It's all pseudoscience, might be dramatic but its comparable to how abolitionists during the civil war still feared "amalgamation" and refused to refer to black people as "Mister" or "Miss"
Most of it certainly was racism, but the other hand was many of them were so dumb and uneducated that they truly believed black people were inferior
If we make like the kind of stuff Julia Serano and Forest Valkai pushes in mainstream highschool level education I'm sure we'd have less of these issues, as with any sort of social issue education and political lines solve them

>>5987
It depends though.
Can trans women give birth? Or lactate?

Can trans men make seed?

>>5987
If you reduce it to biological functions, but even in cis people they aren't always in operation, not every cis person procreates or even can and menstruating is akin to shitting or pissing.

isn't it because for most human beings the sex you are born with determines which type of gamete you can produce? hormones and surgery can alter the physical characteristics which are usually indicative of sex but cannot (yet) enable AFABs and AMABs to produce a different gamete. i am not an expert i could be mistaken.

of course gender is separate from sex. know this. remember this.

Nonpassing transfolx don't bother me at all. Passoids scare the shit out of me. The most fundamental parts of sex like gonads and gametes are the least mutable. But everything else can be twisted to look like a product of the opposite sex. The lack of transparency is what scares people. That sex only becomes apparent on close examination. Especially anglo-empiricist crakkkaz like me have a pathological need for reality, including other people, to be self-disclosing

>>6723
🤔 Very interesting, interesting. And what scares you about the uncertainty of sex?

>>6719
no, yes, no. Thank You for asking

>>5987
this retarded maymay is fucking hilaruous bc despite not having some academicoid understanding of gender (or BECAUSE OF it) ive had cishet normies on average treat me better than cis/nb queer """""""comrades"""""


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