/lgbt/ - LGBT

>>6906
hell yeah! happy for you
>give tips to not squirm when poking myself
also give tips to poke yourself
i do intramuscular, following the pdf guide from fenway health harm reduction. if your seeing a doctor i imagine they'll give you some instructions.

i find it helpful to play music during shot time. same song everytime, francesca, because i find the part where it drops into the chorus really compelling. also queue up a good relaxing song or two before your shot song to give you enough time to sanitize and get in the zone.

as for the poke, there's a really good youtube video of a nice nurse guy giving himself an IM shot in the thigh. i can't find it on mobile right now. the nurse guy does this thing where he coughs as he sticks the needle quickly. doing this was a game changer for me. something about the cough disconnects your brain for a second and makes it pain free. i highly recommend it i will find the video when im home.

make sure your needles are sized appropriately. use a separate needle for drawing and injecting, etc etc. injection guides will tell you all the details.

>i'm guessing i'll order estradiol from Astrovials and Spiro from somewhere else?
my first vials were estradiol enanthate from lena and i bought my spiro from united pharmacies. needles and such you can buy online (i use a vet supply but friends just use amazon). diyhrt(dot)market is good for finding where to buy shit.

>>6906
the other anon basically stole all my tips. As long as you're in the right location your nerves are near the surface of your skin so the part that feels like a poke, if it's gonna hurt at all, is the initial bit. So best practices for me is too quickly pierce the skin and then you can push into the muscle without much discomfort at all. IM injections are way easier and more comfortable than like a blood test imo

>>6911
>>6910

the edgy part of me wishes i could do this thing they do in videogames tho i know it probably hurts like shit with a normal syringe and probably with an injector too

either way i'd squirm.

do i need to use 2 needles? one for drawing the liquid and one to inject myself?

that sounds expensive

>>6912
each time you use a needle it dulls it a bit. So no, you do not NEED to change the needle between drawing and injecting it is just what's usually standard to avoid the chance of more painful injections. If you are in desperate financial issues it's totally doable, but needles are very inexpensive online at least where I am.

>>6912
the nice nurse dude video i was talking about

>>6906
congrats
>>6912
no not rly, i use the same one for both and i do subq. people who say to use two usually are on prescription which is a lower concentration so more fluid, and the oil used is thicker so you have to sit there for minutes waiting for it to draw through tiny little needle. astro uses mct oil which is pretty thin. subq is just easier and less painful

theres really no benefit of IM over subq
https://pghrt.diy/#S5.SS7

i use 29g insulin syringes, they have no deadspace so no lost product. i recommend the same or maybe even 31g but not lower than 27g, 1/2 inch needle, and go for 1/2 or 1/3 cc over full 1 mL ones if you can get them, because it will make dosing in the 4-6 mg range easier with 40mg/mL vials. at that concentration 4mg is 0.1 mL 5mg is 0.125 mL and 6mg is 0.15 mL so you can see why ~1/10th of a already small syringe can get inaccurate

for me
sanitize vial and injection site with alcohol. pull in same amount of air as dose. orient the bevel of the needle facing up. go into the stopper at 45 degrees bevel first then straiten out flip the vial upside down. inject the air to neutralize pressure. draw slowly so you dont get bubbles but you will anyway so over draw then tap the side and push the bubbles back. when you get the dose right take it out pinch the skin lightly over vastus lateralis. too tight on pinch makes it more difficult. they say you wanna hold syringe like a dart. i stab slow which probly hurts more but it doesnt really hurt with such tiny needles i usually dont even feel it you can probly actually jab just be controlled. you want 90 to 45 degrees depending on how much subq fat you actually have. i do 90 and push it all the way in. after a bit of pushing the needle kinda pops through to the other side. you wanna inject kinda slow so you dont cause bruising from like turbulence or whatever. i usually tense and end up twisting at an angle. dont do that lol try to relax. make sure you squeeze it all out and wait a second for pressure to equalize then just slide it out and let go of the pinch. even if you dont wait enough and it leaks it will be negligible amount. if it bleeds a bit its not a big deal you just nicked one of the thousands of blood vessels. you can sanitize again and bandaid but you dont have to. it will leave a little depot bump that lasts a few days or so as your body metabolizes slowly. doesnt hurt or anything. and thats it basically. oh and rotate sites. you can do stomach or back of arm too but i just do right leg left leg top of thigh bottom of thigh 4 weeks of rotate should be enough

>>6906
>as soon as i get my doses from the endo maybe in a week
wat
https://startwith4mgestradiolenanthateweeklyandtestatonetothreemonths.com/
>>6906
>i'm guessing i'll order estradiol from Astrovials and Spiro from somewhere else?
you dont need both https://pghrt.diy/#S2.SS3

also 4chan /lgbt/catalog#s=hrtgen

flood detected;fuckyoujannie

>>6915

is it me or is he squirming when about to inject himself?

happy for you bestie /gen

Congratulations! I just use these numbing stickers (the brand Amla or something) whenever i get a blood test because blood tests are living hell. But unfortunately, the plasters are only available in Poland.

>>6921

i would usually just look away and that does it but i guess that's not an option when doing it yourself

>>6919
He looks like he might have some sort of tremor issue idk I'm not a nurse or anything. As long as the muscle in your leg isn't violently spasming it's not a big deal. If you are gonna do it in the thigh I would make sure to sit on the bed or couch so your thigh gets squished up more than a chair like he has

Alternate between your bum cheeks and your upper arms. For your bum draw a diagonal line down from the top of your bum crack to the outer part of your thigh and stab the needle in outside the line. For the upper arms, find the top muscle cluster. Basically when you look at your arm inject it into the biggest outer part of the muscle below your shoulder. It hurts a bit more than with the bum sometimes but is much easier to do imo.

>>6924

yeah i have a hard time imagining how to reach my bum nowadays, i'm not as flexible as i was, i could still do it but i'd prob strain a mucle.

Is the HRT more effective if you inject it directly into your boobs?

>>6927

there wasn't some estrogen cream for the boobs?

does it work?

>>6923
>so your thigh gets squished up
That's actually a misconception. Squishing is good for finding fat deposits, but it makes no difference whether you inject while gathering them or not. Needles isn't really a big deal to me, since i've previously had to inject anticoagulant for weeks. I do sometimes pull out again, to avoid directly injecting above a nerve.

>>6927
bad idea in general to stick needles in your chest i think.
>>6928
i started out with transdermal estradiol (estrogel) before i switched to pills then injections. i applied it to my ballz, though there's hardly any research for taking that route:
https://transfemscience.org/articles/genital-e2-application/
injections are still better because your levels fluctuate so damn much with gel or pills.

>>6931

but i meant specifically for boobs?
then you switched to progesterone? i got lost

As of today, i've officially started HRT!

>>7155
LETS FUCKIN GO MI REINAAAAAAAA

>>6906
>>7155
you are pretty retarded if youre actually taking spiro and spamming about trans stuff despite not having transitioned at all
spiro just fucks breast growth and makes you pee yourself, i didnt take it and mine grew fine, it is the worst AA, do not take spiro
seriously
DO NOT TAKE SPIRO

>>7155
Wow you get to be happy while I’ll never be because of my phobia of needles. You have it so fucking easy yet you want us to celebrate you? You already get the privledge of being able to start hrt

>>7162
stop being a bitterhon. the fate of our own is intertwined with that of our species in its entirety, and those morsels of happiness that one finds in this hell are too precious to toss away or to compel someone to.

OP will soon learn that life is an incorrigible pit of vice and suffering, and that man is wolf to man, but it's too early for that right now.

>>7159

then what do i do? that's what my prescription says D:

also i transitioned literally every other way as when i got kicked out of home i had to live with my extremely everythingphobic grandpa and i just now he's not around and i have a sorta stable source of income to buy the prescriptions.
every other way i girlmode everywhere and every day and i'm out to everyone around me.


>>7162

i am also scared of needles, but i'm used to swallowing my fear.
which makes my tummy hurt.