/lgbt/ - LGBT

Personally i draw a hard/soft distinction. I call the outliers they always use to discredit transfems, like unironic "i turned my sissy porn hobby into my life" testimonials, hard AGPs. Recognizing that many cissoids also experience Autophilia, to be soft AGP means being able to step away from that and not see it as an inherent part of your identity, as any person who isn't a literal gooning addict should be able to.

yuo see how i compare two production modules there?

between trying to save an outdated model such as the Kalashnikov pattern over repurposing parts and molds of it's design to improve a new pattern such as the Type 81

i wanna talk about the VZ58 but that's a /akm/ thread >>>/akm/6122

im making a game around this btw.

Idk go on Lolcow.farms and tell this to them

trans people should not do violence

be suspicious of anyone calling for violence

>>7148
Be suspicious of anyone saying you should NOT do violence. They are probably bourgeois elements and should be liquidated ASAP with a bullet to the back of the head.

>>7148

the metaphor is violence, the call is for something much harder.
a cultural revolution.

>>7152
if you want a cultural revolution, you first want to have a determinate vision as to how trans culture should evolve. honestly something i should have explored more in my original blog post was concerning the organic ways in which trans people have organized historically and how they continue to. from the hijra to the greater pnw transbian polycule, there is a very communal orientation that i think is tied to the fact that transition is not only socially but ontologically stabilizing. tbh it is important to remember that there is trans culture online of reddit twitter 4chan that is dominantly people who have no actual friends, and there is the underground networks of trans people all over the world that have built their own support structures. perhaps we should follow mao and consult this subterranean trans culture below manifest internet culture and come to work with them

actually this is one of the reasons why i sort of like dugin for thinking about this almost .. that concept of the ethnos as an organically evolving thing from different groups interacting with one another materially is a rlly important perspective. we see especially with the hijra a group that even has their own language that is spoken by people all over south asia for centuries even despite colonial attempts at extermination. there is almost a subterranean civilization there .. idk it's cool .. i should really write a schizopost about that sometime

>>6952
Wait is the gun all a metaphor because you're a Mexican? The answer is the gun tho.

>>7212
Ask my man Charlie Kirk. Bullets speak louder than words.

>>7212

fucking love guns so much

>>7211

I already had my National Anarchist phase girlie, sorry.
Troy Southgate is interesting if you're trying to be edgy but beyond that he's kind of a meme.

The whole Evola/Mishima identitarian lane leans way too hard on metaphysical aesthetics and forgets something much simpler: systems survive through adaptation.

If you design a really good gun but make it run on some obscure ammo nobody is going to put in their basket, the design is useless. Ideologies can have the exact same problem.

Any organization that actually helps people has to be modular and adaptive to material conditions.

For example I just signed the informed consent forms for my transition and realistically most of my money for the next few months is going to tests and endocrinology appointments. That's the real constraint.

And it's also why a lot of older trans women, especially those outside formal systems; built their own support networks. Those structures evolved because the official ones didn't work for everyone.

So yes, the adaptive part matters.

But I think we're still missing something else: loyalty.

"No one left behind" works as a doctrine for a reason. If a structure adapts but abandons people when they become inconvenient, people stop trusting it.

And without trust you don't get a community, you just get a bureaucracy.

>>7214
u r the one suggesting a "cultural revolution" and wanting to root out blanchardism or whatever. i am not sure if i am even interested in such things. at any rate, if there is a cultural revolution you do need some sort of forward thinking idea of where to actually go, otherwise it will just be a wholly negative thing. you are not going to just kill every blanchardist are you? no, so you need to provide something positive around which people can work together. i think within many forms of reflective conceptualizations with regards to trans people today, they are often oriented to some practical goal of integrationism or assimilationism. they take various forms according to the ability for people to fit within the dominant ideologies today. someone who does not fit within subversivist culture is more likely to be some sort of trans-medicalist or klansfem as a reaction. i think klansfem especially need to be shown an alternative vision for where things can go. they are only latching onto nazism or christianity for the most part because they do not have a determinate idea of where to go, only where they do not want to go. in other words, klansfem operate on the same subtractive logic under which you are operating as well

i do agree that things need to be adaptive and that precisely is the problem with the likes of evola .. he, along with every fascist in italy, was capable of taking a unified italian essence for granted thanks to the fact that conditions forced the various italian cities to work together. as such his understanding of a "racial spirit" which the individual's body is an expression of does not contain within it the dynamism that would render the thinkability of a change in such a spirit being possible. in reality, this "spirit" he speaks of changes with the shifts of material conditions, the movement to new environments, the adoption of new practices, etc. as trans people are forced to enter into larger support structures in the coming years, this would necessarily lead to the rudiments of a new collective consciousness, and that is what my mention of dugin points to: how to think of some sort of general or basic relationality common to trans people that is capable of encapsulating all differences between them based upon the necessities of trans existence. this would be the starting point for the conscious assimilation of various trans cultures as they are brought within a greater shared horizon of meaning..

>For example I just signed the informed consent forms for my transition and realistically most of my money for the next few months is going to tests and endocrinology appointments. That's the real constraint.
yes and that is why i have suggested alongside the cultural critique an approach to organization which takes into account some of the necessities which lead to trans people to organize into communal forms. however, i do not think that the issue is simply that of the pragmatics of getting the means to transitioning secured. you have in various subterranean trans communities a tendency to reproduce mother-daughter relations of kinship which stems not only from the fact that there is a necessitated practical knowledge, but also that there is an ontological break that occurs during transition which demands a new orienting and finding others to aid one along the way. there is also the fact that the logics by which most civilizations have hitherto reproduced themselves has often lead to an ontological disjunction between trans people and the rest of the world, so that they are frequently pushed into marginal and liminal positions with respect to the rest of society

>"No one left behind" works as a doctrine for a reason
keep in mind that the subversivism which i criticize does not in actually operate according to such logic. it encourages the shunning of trans people that operate too much along the lines of the "gender binary". this is one of the reasons why it must be criticized, not simply because of a simple conceptual disagreement, but on the practical ramifications. someone who still thinks within the idealist framework of "gender identity" is welcome provided they are actually willing to contribute to the project. however, what i talk about is ontological not simply ideological .. rather than simply concerning the projections of thought, it is connected to the underlying logic in how trans people may reflexively relate to the world by virtue of their transition

there is also the flip side in all of this from the perspective of material necessity. if what i offer is able to organize people in a tighter and broader manner than what we have seen previously, then people are naturally going to nucleate around it. the problem is injecting that nucleus into ambient culture ..

>>6952
>blanchardism

I agree that the study is completely unscientific.
I don't know what kind of harm it has done? I would go so far as to say that the T4T movement is just autogynephilia.
I'm a gay man, and I don't really care if people think homosexuality is a fetish or paraphilia. Maybe it is. Why do you care? If your trans-ness if an ingrained fetish turned into an identity, so what? People deserve the same rights as long as everyone involved is a consenting human adult.

>>7215
to add, and this is something i feel is very important to highlight here: if we look at thelema we see crowley himself mention how you can either take the existence of spirits literally or as merely parts of the mind. as such, thelema is not grounded upon metaphysics but rather ontology. it is the shared relation to being which is important, not the particular abstractions which are expressions of it

>>7216
>People deserve the same rights
what are these "rights" that somehow encapsulate both the concrete material needs of trans people in their particularity and that of universal humanity? "people should do whatever they want"? but this is not in actually even a concept within a liberalism. you do not want to let a unhinged schizophrenic person "do whatever they want" because that damages the "well-being" of themselves and others. it is this very abstractness of liberal attitudes which produces contradictions that ironically lead to our current persecution

>>7215

>"it encourages the shunning of trans people that operate too much along the lines of the "gender binary""

there's the contradiction: Dugin is still a traditionalist. Much of his framework remains tied to Evola and Guénon.

The mistake they make is treating tradition as something sacred in itself rather than as a tool to preserve what is sacred.

That's why I can't distance myself from the gender binary.

Not only because many trans people genuinely experience and long for it, despite what spectrum theories might argue.

Adhering to the gender binary is not about assimilation.

Call it performativity or determinism, but femininity, womanhood — whatever name you give it — like any doctrine has a canon. Rituals, aesthetics, expectations, symbols. Many of us want a place within that canon, even if our individual expressions vary.

Humans don't only live through theory. We live through shared scripts.

This doesn't invalidate non-binary identities. If anything, it allows space for them to develop their own doctrine and canon rather than existing as a permanent negation of the binary.

But treating binary identification as somehow reactionary or "cis-aligned" misunderstands why many of us pursue it in the first place.

Resenting cis people isn't the cause of the problem, and separatism isn't the solution. Creating a political separation from the wider gender canon would likely isolate trans people even further.

If I'm honest, a lot of resentment comes from a much simpler place: the desire to belong to the same rituals.

Queer cultural spaces and artists, whether experimental figures like Sewerslvt in anglophone internet scenes or ARCA in Spanish-speaking ones can provide recognition and solidarity. But that still doesn't erase something many binary trans people feel: the desire for the ordinary experience of simply being a woman, a cis woman.

We can spend endless time deconstructing gender or reshaping cultural language, but that doesn't change a basic emotional fact.

Many of us will still feel gender envy.

We will still look at the lives of cis women and imagine the simplicity of having grown into that place naturally.

That doesn't erase gratitude for surviving this path. It just means the counterfactual, the "what if" will always exist somewhere in the background, because that's where most trans experiences begin: in the recognition that something about our trajectory diverged.

You can shun me all you want, I still have needs and my transition ahead of me. And people like me, many binary transsexuals will fight hard to protect that path.

Sometimes that defensiveness manifests in ugly ways, even hurting other trans people. But the root of it is usually fear of losing access to the only path that offers stability.

Hope matters here.

Without hope you end up at the bottom of the /tttt/ barrel: perpetual self-pity, irony-poisoning, and zero action.

Learned helplessness is a trap.

And that's why balkanizing the community especially in a moment where access to transition itself is under pressure isn't just a bad idea.

It's suicide.

>>7220
NTA but god this makes me wish I was a binary trans person so badly. I wish I could be apart of the rituals, aesthetics, expressions, etc. of a binary gender. I wish I could be apart of a binary gender canon. But unfortunately I’m genderfluid, so I long to be apart of bother binary gender canons, but my presence would likely ruin the whole point of any community or space made for indulging in the rituals and norms of a binary gender. I totally get why binary trans people long for the gender binary, as I long for it too.

>how to effectively fight transmisoginy in gnc spaces?
>Pictures of guns
But wouldn't that technically solve the problem in all spaces?!?!?!

>>7226

worth a shot

get it?

>>7229
Yeah I get it

>>7226
That, my friends, is an accurate portrayal of "muh 2nd Amendment" Americans and Trumpists who want to cause mass shootings everywhere vai kaut kas

>>7243

we love guns in mexico too

i dare say everyone loves guns, just not in the funko pop way americans like them, which i gotta admit; kinda me-core.

also they're cowards about it, 2a is a double edge sword because they have it yet they can't protect it.

>>7219
>Trans rights

I guess I lack the verbiage to say what I mean more specifically. I don't think people should do "whatever they want" as far as body modification (for instance, you shouldn't be able to pay someone to saw your arms and legs off) and even if everyone involved is over the age of 25 (which should be the true age of consent) it still gets tricky like a professor sleeping with his twunky undergrad (power discrepancy) or a gerontophile sleeping with someone in a nursing home (can the demented/those with dementia consent?) and so on. So it is tricky and just saying "do what you want within the realms of common sense" is also problematic.

>>7245
I'd like to have a gun but only if there's complete anarchy in a Survival of the Fittest way, I would use it for defense. But I will literally never use it to kill anyone anyways because I'm a rather cautious human anyways

>>7252

i would like to have a gun.




a 38 super 2011 with full length frame optics mount, double stack magazines and a mexican emblem on the grips.

>>7220
i think you might be misunderstanding what i am saying. i am saying that subversivists see people existing within the gender binary as a problem. as such, their politics and the concepts which lead them to such a position is something that should be moved beyond
>Dugin is still a traditionalist
>[…] That's why I can't distance myself from the gender binary.
no but that is the thing. i have already used dugin to move past all of that. i do not use these thinkers to try and reify gender, in actuality i use them to move beyond a grounding on gender in its entirety. these thinkers, despite themselves, articulate a radical potency that goes far beyond any professed idealism they might have. to me, the sacred is not something simply to find or to preserve, but something to build. it comes within the very project of transitioning itself, the mythology of biokinesis. quoting from what ive written:
<A point which ought to be brought up in contrast to Butler’s position is her framing of the acts by a body which constitute a gender as “strategies”. A lot of focus is put on gender as a matter of survival, which is indeed quite true. We must also appreciate that her motivation for this phrasing lies in the political motivations mentioned prior. Despite these points, I would contend that “gender” can very much be understood, in some contexts, as being constituted by an overarching project. We see this especially in transexuals who spend years changing their bodies according to a larger overarching goal. It is notable that Butler often uses as an example that of a transvestite, which again falls into the notion of “strategy” as opposed to “project”. Of course, the experience of a transsexual is a far more involved one than that of a mere crossdresser. While the latter gets related to questions of “fiction” or “believability”, the former is a committed assault on the very foundations of corporeal existence. Transition is something that is effortful and occurs over a long period of time. Though Butler, in her use of the term “strategy” tries distance herself from the idea of a “radical will”, it could be said that the very time-extension of transition does indeed constitute some sort of radical willful existence (though one still subsumed under a deeper transinvidual being). Perhaps then, to the extent that transitioning is a project rather than a strategy, transsexuality does not have anything to do with gender at all.
>Adhering to the gender binary is not about assimilation.
what i mean by assimilationism is not the choice of individual trans people to be a certain way, but the idea that trans people should be a certain way and by fitting into such and such a mold wider society would accept us. there are many trans-medicalists and klansfems that are like this. with the latter, you have some pointing out that the nazis actually continued to give trans people surgeries provided they fit in with the norms regarding sexuality at the time. the problem with many of these approaches is that it ignores the fact that history is irreversible. you cant just go back to the time of the nazis or whatever era and try and fit in there. the current precedent has shifted far more towards transsexuality being something that is to be exterminated, and ignoring this fact is dangerous. ultimately my problem with both integrationists and assimilationists is that they want trans people to be related to society at large in an unmediated way. the first needs the entire socius to bend to them whilst the latter requires trans to conform to the socius. i reject both of these options. in dugin we see a conceptualization of universality that is premised on a recognition of difference rather than conformity. in order to fully affirm this difference, collective self-determination is important
>Resenting cis people isn't the cause of the problem, and separatism isn't the solution
i dont resent cis people and i am not a separatist either. this is because there are cis people who are also interested in biokinesis and so would want to participate in this larger project. with my current orientation i am even open to accepting people who want to look like animals i dont care
>And that's why balkanizing the community […]
it is not about balkanization, it is about recognizing difference and making it clear who are the people who have skin in the game and who don't. after covid we saw a steep decline in people who identified as "non-binary" compared to other identities because they simply aren't as serious. personally i dont have problem with these people but where i draw the line is them defining what being trans is about and pressing that on everyone else. that and i dont like any politics more focused on transgression and "challenging the status quo" rather than building something productive ..

again, i have no problem working with non-physically transitioning non-binary people but these people do not have the same material needs which we have and this needs to be recognized. materially speaking we are more closer to the gymbro shooting testosterone than someone not changing their body to "transition". actually i know someone who has been a bit more accepting of ftms because in looking for testosterone many of the resources online are managed by them. this shared need leads to a shared destiny, people are forced to interact and work together, and it opens the door for a deeper form of mutual respect that can't be had (or at least very difficult without that person deeply immersed in some ambient culture premised on this) with an individual not undergoing an extended project of body alteration

>>7222
pray 2 hidweh. when hidwism becomes the dominant religion of binary trans ppl u will be able to share in the same blood and flesh <<<

>>7255
I'd like to have a sniper rifle (I'm more of an accuracy person) with tundra camoflage print and the auseklis symbol painted on it

>>7283
So a Dragunov SVD, it's still in production and it's made by Izhmash, which also made the AKM. Izhmash is headquartered in Izhevsk, in the Republic of Udmurtia. So it's technically an Udmurt gun

>>7255
bougie individualistic nonsense taste, this is all you need.

>>7285

it's literally part of the Mexican identity

also i am quite fond of the MD 65 with the donkey dong

>>7286
nice!

>>7286
Always been a sucker for those wooden forward grips

Personally give me the 45 rounder suppressed AKs

>>7292

Krink Kink

destroy the old world entire. Let us start from year zero and build a new future. The Revolutranary Tranguard will make change unlike any other, but we cannot make that change if we are bound by the shackles of the modern era. Long live the glorious 17th of April

>>7148
Comward

>advocating violence

anybody, especially lgbt people advocating violence are most likely glowies

i have met plenty of very nice irish people, they are not violent people. i have also met plenty of lgbt people, and tbh i have never seen a violent transhumanist in my life

idk why the hell the establishment is so hell bent on targeting transhumanists and making them appear violent. it is absolutely absurd and a waste of time, there are more important things they can be doing. it must be some kind of strange sexual repression or perhaps fetishistic or something, or some sort of inside job. more people should be talking about this

anybody advocating violence is either a glowie or unlearned at politicking. rule #1 of social justice politicking and anti-war stuff is do not advocate violence.

glowies are going to try to attempt to make their political adversaries look violent like muslims or irish people, or gays or transhumanists, but it is a trick to do more false flags and psyops. i advocate every transhumanist here who reads this to not advocate violence in the least because that is exactly what the establishment wants. the establishment is evil or else they wouldn't be doing this sort of stuff in the first place. you do not have to be involved in their evil .

same thing when it comes to crime. the police and the establishment actually want people to commit crimes and encourages people to do it. if you break the law then they can arrest you and have power over you and include you in their shitfests in their prisons and in their corrupt criminal justice system. transhumanists are obviously the most vulnerable when it comes to this.

don't commit crimes. don't get arrested. that gives them power over you. sometimes the law has to be broken because the system is broken, but that does not mean one should go around willy nilly committing crimes and disregarding the law

>>7494
yeah, because not advocating violence or standing up for ourselves in general and expecting cis people to do anything to materially support a cause they have no skin in the game with whatsoever for a tiny minority that they view with a mixture of confusion, revulsion, and fetishistic objectification is surely a winning strategy that has been working out well for us since the Tipping Point in the 2010s. we've just gotta keep sucking up to the most status quo human rights lib shit and eventually after trans people get a Holocaust they'll give us an Israel.

wtf is transmisogyny?

>>7500
google is free.

but tldr; the way misogyny is applyed to trans women within lgbt and liberal/leftist spaces.

>>7501
look at the bright side: if they are being subjected to misogyny it means they have been recognised and accepted as women.
do not be an ultra, have trust in the stages of development

>>7510
holy larp

>>7510
We're going to skin you alive and hang you in the commune centre.

>>7510
i smell transphobe

>>7510
Killing a transphobe is a sacred act.

>>7494
>end the war in vietnam
because the govt totally cared about the protestors and they didnt just withdraw because they got their ass kicked by peasants from the sticks
>idk why the hell the establishment is so hell bent on targeting transhumanists and making them appear violent
transgender people are always already violent on an ontological level and this is the basis upon which accusations of violence against others is intelligible. when the average person sees a transhumanist doing diy orchi they dont simply see desperation but someone willing to disregard the construct of well-being to get what they want. on one hand the thought comes as to what lengths these people will go if they feel pushed enough. on the other hand, this orientation does not only move against the biopolitical logic (which is replicated in the weltanschauung of the vast majority of its citizenry) replicated by the liberal state and the construct of human rights. there is also the more sublime form of violence performed by the act of transitioning. the liberal, in their humanist atlanticism, likes to talk about various forms of transsexuality and transness throughout the ages and how they managed to be accepted to various degrees of extent by society at large. what they always seem to elide for whatever reason is that the currency for this social acceptance is a shared horizon of meaning within which these people have a place in existence. none of these people existed in some vulgar atheistic rationalism wherein the political has entered into closer identity with bare existence as opposed to lived existence. subversivists do not understand this, instead their bourgeois atlanticism forces them to project onto historical time a reverse-manichaean structuration wherein various groups at different times possessed various distributions of "progress". in not understanding the distinctive aeonic significance of various cultures, they struggle to really grasp that the liberal state also has a culture and mode of projecting existence into the world. as such they cluelessly push subversivist strategies not understanding the symbolic order which they are threatening to destroy. this threat of destruction, the push beyond a biopolitical ethics of well-being and integrity, is in itself the truest form of violence. it involves the clash in ways of life and the threat of mutual ontological destruction

in identifying capital itself with a form of generalized anti-production and recognizing that the liberal bourgeois state, despite its pretensions to neutrality, is very much far from the total universality it professes, it becomes possible to finally lose with the idea that there is this definite trajectory of continuous deterritorialization that shall be pushed by "rebels"

needless to say i do not think violence should be our first response to such matters, it should be organization and securing collective self-determination. still, self-defence scenarios may well become an inevitability and being properly armed may serve as deterrence from further aggression

>>7512
I didn't know that gender was assigned ontologically. do you even know what that word means or do you have to use grok to find out?

>>7543
Gender is what you identify as.
Sex is what you're born as, according to your chromosomes.