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239 posts and 35 image replies omitted.>>1791thread sucked anyways, its just some chud calling feminism bourgeois or whatever
>>1874>interclass movements based on ideals and rights aren't bourgeois because they just aren't ok?Lol I'm literally trans, sorry I defiled your idols or whatever. Just zero critical analysis on this shithole as usual.
>>1873>>1872Proletariat women are not only oppressed for being proletarians, but also receive unique oppression in stuff like lower wages despite being in the same field – this is just material reality.
Recognizing their unique additional oppression is necessary since capital in general will exploit one sub group over the other to bribe the other, with an additional demonizing of each other – racism is a famous example.
This isn't to say that bourgeosis women are oppressed because they're women, they're so benefiting of their class that it overrides that – both of these things work together.
>The abolition of class society and property emancipates the proletariat, genius.If you're going to be snarky, you need to do it right.
(Unlike me which forgets to add words).
>>1874Thread sucks because it's a dead board, not because a "chud" doesn't get a now liberal movement that's constantly white washed.
>>1894chud transhumanist. tale as old as time
>>1900Is /lgbt/ just gonna be queer siberia?
>>1896>lower wages despite being in the same fieldThis is only a thing in high-earning jobs. Not beating the midle-class allegations.
>>1896>>1900>>1874>>1905This is Eleanor Marx about women workers, highlighting how middle-class women's interests diverge from those of working class women, and how feminists (women's rights-ers) differ from working class women.
Luxemburg's stance on feminism is well-known enough so not gonna bother posting that one.
>>1905>Women's oppression serves to divide the proletariat.>Emancipation within the capitalist framework leaves women in a class position.>Proletarian women have more to gain from organizing with men than to fight an inter-class struggle.While i think this analysis largely holds up, i find the wholesale dismissal of engaging with this intra-class competition very short-sighted. Is the economic discrimination of women, like those of racial minorities, not a very visible head of the capitalist hydra that can spur organization? Likewise the eventual disappearance of the need for such underclasses does not automatically result in the disappearance of related ressentiments. Need i remind you the emancipation from the family structure was fought for in the USSR, unsuccesfully. Feminism is a valuable tool for marxists, to a point.
Yet there is also another side to the issue, besides how women should organize with respect to their class. Gender ideology necessarily pervades every aspect of society and most apparently can lead to the trivialization of uniquely women's issues. I would argue bourgeois feminism is pretty transparent in every one of its incarnations. Proletarian women's economic marginalization and the gendered burden of childcare are a part of the wider proletarian struggle, as much as the working conditions of amazon warehouse employees or price gouging in healthcare, and, in addition to present economic conditions, they are both enforced by patriarchal notions of women's inferiority and predisposition towards mother roles. The enduring prevalence of such notions even among the working class is the reason women need to loudly advocate for their own issues, or risk being brushed aside.
Need a twink who can swallow anything
>>1931Im sorry Im not the person I was when I wrote this
>>1933Hmm nah. Im normal again
>>1905Idk why this reply when the first image explains that proletariat women are unequal to proletariat men.
Also your second post (
>>1906 ), is just highlighting liberals in the movement and the sway/leading it has.
The problem I had was simplifying the contradictions of the struggle to just purely proletariat vs bourgeois, when it's clear that, even if they're extensions of the first dialect, they still exist.
You're misunderstanding me in thinking that I'm arguing for the solution to be derived from that liberal-feminist framework, or that a communist movement should work part within in it to satisfy those liberals.
And confused when I'm using the modern (water down) definition of feminism of being:
> When you're for the liberation of women and men from the patriachy And saying that communism, a movement that logically incorporates it but to those less read in theory would not realize this (hence le "maga-communism"), would aim to liberate proletariat women more than just their status as a worker.
>>1931>>1932>>1933>>1934Get a room you two
you two would be cute together >>3630I wish I could help but I don't have much advice really. I think there are dating places for HIV positive people but idk if that's something you want.
stop normalizing boys kissing, homophobia makes for great angst stories
>>3890A miserable little pile of secrets. But enough talk…
>>4272God, I want to look like him so badly. It makes me want to cry that ill never be him
>>3630Echoing S poster but you should seek out the HIV positive people for community and support in general not just dating prospects. Other people have been through it in your same community and may be able to help with all sorts of things.
>>3630Sleeping around should be a crime.
>>3630I asume this wouldn't be a issue for sides, and exclusive sides have a reduced number ofvoptions so less picky I guess. Maybe an online relationship, or someone with HIV as others have said.
>>4273Diet and exercise Anon. Anybody can be a twink!
>>3630At least you got to have sex. Gross though
>>4282Not everyone can be an attractive twink though (or a twink at all if you are over a certain age).
You can't change your genetics and plastic surgery is expensive and unhealthy.
>>4274It's not enough. I still wouldnt have the body, the cute face, the beautiful black hair.
>>4282Im far too depressed to exercise or take care of myself. Plus my face will never be that pretty even if I exercised, my faceshape and body are too disgustingly masculine.
It's been two years since I've been off HRT and I don't think I'll go back on it (even if I wanted to I'm broke as shit.) Every night before I fall asleep I still think about what it'd be like to be a man with a wife living happily together. I don't think it will happen but I wonder if I should just dyke out already, I have a .0001% chance of scoring a dommy mommy but I'm going to take the chance anyway.
bought some sex toys in the hope that they can alleviate my sexual frustration somewhat
got a cock ring set, a bullet vibe, a butt plug set, a bottle of lube and a douche
>>894is there a word for cis "bi" dudes who have most exclusively attractions towards feminine-presenting ppl regardless of gender identity
>>5269The straightest guy I know has an ass like the right.
It comes down to how much you work out. More squats = more shapely dumpy
>>5265If you have sex with self identified men and women then you're bisexual. Seriously wtf is this gatekeeping? Would you call a man who exclusively has sex with feminine cis men straight?
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Are age gaps seen as more acceptable in queer relationships? I yet the sense that they're somewhat more common especially among gay men. Personally I don't see an issue with them as long as both parties treat each other with respect.
>>5337Yes I would say they definitely are.
god i love being nonbinary
>>5344What's so great about it?
>>5346You're not hated by the right as much as transhumanists
im a disgusting fucking manmoder and i hate myself so much im thinking about getting a mastectomy instead of ffs just because of how fucked and ugly my body is. i hate myself
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