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>>618934

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>>894
LESSSS GOOOOO

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ive been making an honest attempt to get into more yuri manga more lately and its actually been quite a challenge because honest to god a lot of yuri readers are kinda like the manga equivalent of that guy who only eats mcdonalds big macs for dinner. theres a lot of boring ass bl manga out there. go to a Chapters and youll find 8 volumes of some shit called like Akira and Hinata Go Biking Together. but nobody really reps that stuff except for psychos. with yuri manga its the complete opposite, everyone reps Any and All of it

himejoshi also have the exact same neuroses that lesbians in general do where everyone is paranoid of coming across as a sex pervert, so any manga rec with anything more than two adult women holding hands is met by a barrage of people going "can we get some decency around here??"

>>896
the website i linked in >>620123 seems like a good starting point. recently i also read Kitanai Kimi ga Ichiban Kawaii and it was a whole thing… well written though and made me cry at times.

It's my bf's birthday next month. What should I get him? He a furry and likes cars and technology, including vintage and collector stuff. For Christmas I got him a fox onesie and he's been looking at getting a GameBoy Colour but he may have already gotten it by the time his birthday comes.

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>>898
I got my husband a Zippo.
I recommend knives.
Pic related what I got from him

Also god fuck I love men, I like how big they are.

>>898
A plushie maybe? What about an erotic furry plushy?

>>894
We need an lgbt board

>>901
It took over a month to fill a single general.

If you wouldn't mind,
I think someone within the LGBTQ+ community would be capable of answering a question I posed here >>644183 best
It is in regarding hetero/bi sexuality and forming romantic relationships with enby/transwomen
Thanks

what's on the gay agenda????? I need to know if it's too soon to trans the pet hamsters

>>903
Answered.
>>904
Circuit is out. Grindr is in, but hookups are out, contradictory. Next on the agenda is expanding gay networks.

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>dont wanna worry rn
These people think they’re trans yet their identity is really just something they can turn on and off and it doesn’t really change anything for them.

>>904
Turning the frogs gay by pissing on rivers

>>899
He might think the knife is cool, iirc he has a pocket knife he likes to play with so maybe he'd like a new one. Thanks for the suggestion.
>Also god fuck I love men, I like how big they are
I'm the big one in our relationship I'm like 6'3 and he's 5'6 lol. Just a teeny lil guy <3
>>900
He does love plushies, he's got like 20 of them crammed onto his bed lol. I've gotten him those just for fun though, so I'd like to get him something more special for his birthday. I'll get him the Gameboy if he hasn't gotten it for himself by then, but otherwise I'm thinking maybe some other piece of vintage tech, or possibly a model car or something.

>>906
As far as I'm concerned "enbies" are just a scheme to get cis femboys onto estrogen for sex reasons, and I fully endorse it.

all sex is rape except for t4t

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Every time I see transman progress pic, this scene from LOTR flashes in my mind.

>>912
Christopher Lee is #goals

>>913
Yes I wish I was dead too.

>>914
Damn, what's wrong? :<

>>912
Passing transmen have got to be the worst of both worlds. Hairy and masculine but no cock? Bleh.

Just found out about this site yesterday, do they like transhumanists, fags, feminisms here? relative to 4chan

>>917
*transgender individuals

>>918
Generally yes but you will be exposed to people who don't. Stay out of Ukraine General and Sex and Relationships and it will hopefully be rare.

>>917
Mostly yes but there are some stalinist and larouchite/hazcel chuds but they're the minority and contained to the incel general (called sex and relationship), and the ukraine general

>>909
That depends tho, lots of enbies are just spicy afabs. Enbyism is a noble ideal in theory but since in practice it is a lack of gender identity rather than an actual identity with a fixed appearance anyone can claim it for instant libprog brownie points, it's like white people claiming that they have 5% native ancestry

>>921
>Enbyism is a noble ideal
No wonder it's only cushy 20 somethings into it.

>>917
We're all queer here. Feminism is a touchy subject since many here are more radical than what feminism has to offer.
>>920
I'm a Stalinist, whatever that may mean.
>>921
Identity politics, in this case, presenting as NB as a political statement or what not, is retarded through and through. NB makes sense historically because gender roles have never been weaker in centuries but at the same time genders are strongly demarcated by society. The end result is that genders stop making sense and people are like wtf am I supposed to be, gender-wise. Of course we must support people presenting as however they want, but gender isn't abolished by these actions, but rather by the material conditions that gave rise to gender in the first place.

>>906
I might be reading too much into a tiktok but remaining closeted in a trumptard small town or for some other reason can have rational reasoning

>>912
Trans men are beautiful. Fuck you.

I just want a big hairy man to hug me really tight and felt me play with his beard

>>926
London?

>>927
Very close to London.

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>>925
Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

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>>921
All I know is that if my bf tells the doctor he's one then he can get girl pills and look extra cute.

The worst things other trans people talk about
1. Their dating lives
2. “My parents won’t let me transition” :(
3. Autism/neurodivergence

>>932
41% btw

>>932
they are very sad and lost creatures, I believe they are being victims of themselves.

are there lebaneses on this godforsaken board

>>931
can you really get girl pills for being enby?

What do you guys think about the whole trutrans and fake trans discussion

>>935
Show big brown arab cock

>>921
>>909
>>906
I’ve never met a non binary person that doesn’t come from a middle class/upper class background. There’s no nb prostitutes or homeless. To me, non binary is a grift cis middle/upper class queer people use to take resources meant for trans people for their own personal gain.

>>931
QED.

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>>940
Poonsisters…

>>939
>I’ve never met a non binary person that doesn’t come from a middle class/upper class background
rock solid argument

>>942
For me, transness is about survival, realizing yourself and changing your position in society. If these aren’t your goals in transition, which it never is for nb, then it’s not the same struggle as me and I don’t relate, therefore can’t say we’re in the same "community". I don’t fuck with people that are just in it for the fun/fuck gender!!! crowd. This is real life and these expressions have consequences, that which is most fatal for trans women. NB rarely deviate from their birth gender’s expression, not to mention no one even knows what NB is.

To most, it’s just queer fashion and style trends accompanied with a “they,” which is not the same as changing your gender. You aren’t not considered trans by most because they lack the knowledge to even consider your identity, to be treated as cis is a privilege regardless of your personal feelings. In my experience, non binary have dominated trans spaces, take resources from trans people, spread harmful narratives about transness and commit violence towards specifically trans women. I have countless anecdotes of these moments.

>>943
"nbs are never working class they never want to change anything" is just made up fanfiction for angry transhumanists to jerk off to and it's a lame fetish

>>944
Make some sense next time.

Like this >>906 is just the average enby anywhere.

>>945
make love not transmed

>>946
no thats engagement bait on tiktok babydoll

I support all forms of gender self-expression, whatever makes people stop caring about gender and live their lives freely fastest.

>>936
Depends on where you live but here you can.
>>939
>To me, non binary is a grift cis middle/upper class queer people use to take resources meant for trans people for their own personal gain.
I regret nothing. The cute boys must flow.


>>951
i can call it a pp :3

>>906
i don’t care if it makes me a bigot I hate theyfabs and only trans girls aka the angels are pure

https://apnews.com/article/uk-supreme-court-decision-definition-woman-scotland-1a61bea0c26c13cf34864f696a1a5f0c
UK’s top court says definition of a woman is based on biological sex and excludes transgender people
>LONDON (AP) — The U.K. Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that a woman is someone born biologically female, excluding transgender people from the legal definition in a long-running dispute between a feminist group and the Scottish government.
>The court said the unanimous ruling shouldn’t be seen as victory by one side, but several women’s groups that supported the appeal celebrated outside court and hailed it as a major win in their effort to protect spaces designated for women.

>>954
Anfem? Gay misandrist?
What's this about women being automatic empaths to LGBT?

>>906
>>953
I always felt it was just white people wishing they felt a modicum of adversity and identity nonwhite have
if they manage to be leftist then I don't care thougher

>>954
Damn it really is TERF island.

>>956
I had a AMAB friend in uni who started identifying as NB and stayed that way for years. Last year he went back to being a cis dude (but kept his NB name which was gender neutral) and converted to Russian Orthodoxy. Enbies not beating the fad allegations tbqh.

>>955
An exception to the rule

Whereas hetmoids being hateful violent psychopaths to lgbt folk is the norm

I don't think its true that most nbs don't transition. Lots of the transmascs I know (who are on T) are nonbinary, even though they go by explicitly male names. I think in an ideal world I would be nonbinary.

TBH I hate some parts about traditional femininity, some of the parts that lots of people associate with being a woman. I hate party dresses, high heels and women's shoes in general (which just feel like mobility restrictors). It's all just about social capital. That's the deal with that ugly over the top makeup too, its not about looking good its about showing off how much effort you put into it. I HATE romance that doesn't have a plot. Idk how people can only read romance, it's unironically a psyop. Women are only allowed to write Romance, not sweeping narratives about politics and history. And I think most of all I hate the kind of way lots of women socialise. I'm not explaining it properly but anyone that has experienced it knows. Idk but there is something very awful about some 'female' spaces and groups especially at like work.

I mean on the other hand I do fit into some other stereotypes about feminitiy. I like hugging people, I care about fashion, have stuffed animals, and I generally care a lot about my friends. I cry very easily. But tbh none of these things were parts about myself that I was not pre-transition. I was always very sentimental and cared about aesthetics, liked cooking etc., and liked being the 'care giver' I guess. Some things I did have become 'cute', like being nerdy and kind of autistic. But also like I am not any different from before I transitioned other than that I am now more into women than before when I was mainly into men (and I identified as a gay guy). I guess fag to fag transition. I'm still traditionally masculine in the ways I always was, I like doing physical things like climbing trees, martial arts, being really into hobbies, being anti-pop music (and especially tailor swift and rappers), being pro-violence, personally austere, highly materialist, wanting to be a martyr to a political cause and wanting to die young. Though my template for that chaneged to like Joan of Arc, and tbh maybe thats not much of a male thing, my idea is more like being a beautiful, almost angelic in death martyr.

Maybe in the end 'masculine' and 'feminine' are kind of horseshit. That's where I came to the nonbinary conclusion. By the way I live as a woman, wear dresses, I'm not ugly but I don't pass, I'm not coming from this as like a perennial boymoder or she/her who looks like a fat man.

Maybe I'm just in the same kind of thought tunnel as the straw man of the 'theyfabs', where I actually do want to be percieved as a woman but just hate some parts about it. The not associating with women's friend groups and social things might just be because I don't identify with most social things in general, or that I'm trans and didn't grow up with them. I don't think I would like that shit anyway though, I hate male social groups too, they are even worse. Most of my friends are women anyway. If I was nb I would be almost completely female presenting but like with male hobbies. And what even is a male or a female hobby, what is the difference. There is none, it's just horseshit. The only reason there even are male hobbies is because the men in them are so sexist that it drives everyone else away. Like really in practice I am just like a modern feminist rather than really rejecting gender norms.

In the end I do think most people deep down identify with one of the two genders, me included. These genders are very deeply rooted in our society. Obviously they can, like any social construct, be taken down. But that would be further in the future than nations being destroyed. Maybe gender abolition has to follow the laws of historical development, where they will only go away when the technology reaches a certain point. I actually think that point is not when everyone is born as genderless cyborgs, but instead when artificial babies overtake natural ones. Then the economic basis for gender will dissapear, and what sex organs you are born with will just be like what hair colour you have. That's going to happen quicker under socialism.

I hope shay is ok. She was going off the deepend with drugs last time I saw her on here. I am very worried for these kinds of people. I unironically think some Maoist 'inner revolution' and going and working with a party organization would fix them, it would bring them out of their boring lives or abusive families, when the only other option is mind destroying drugs.

>>960
>I don't think its true that most nbs don't transition
>unrelated blogpost underneath
not beating the histrionic allegations are you

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It's broken containment.

>>962
You didn't read it. Wtf is histrionic though… you can't just make up words.

>>960
>being anti-pop music (and especially tailor swift and rappers), being pro-violence, personally austere, highly materialist,

Hating pop music is the most shallow thing ever.
It really is.
Also, traditional masculinity also favors emotional intimacy with friends, but not the way trad femininity do it

i feel so happy for all the tttt girlies who will finally leave that place now that 4chan is dead. I truly wish better for them, a lot of them were genuinely sweet people who just needed to be forced off of tttt and into the real world. My fear is that rather than take this as a sign to move offline though theyre just moving to discord. either way, i will miss all yall passgen girlies but heres to a better life

>>966
Why? 70% of lgbters on /lgbt/ were fucking Nazis.

>>966
ngl discord really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Just avoid the ones that are obviously "chuddy". Otherwise they're no worse than image boards

>>967
LeftyPol doesn't care. All they care about is their previous genderqueer folk being pedestalisee for being a minority

I miss 4/gaygen/. Was peak all the posts

>>969
>LeftyPol

>>970
/gaygen/ was fillen with white racist twinks who hated black and brown men

Queer people who follow any Abrahamic faith are supremely retarded. If the holy book you claim to follow is true, you are going to hell and the people who hate you are going to heaven.

>>964
>Wtf is histrionic
theyre probably referring to histrionic personality disorder, the "female hysteria" of the current dsm
basically theyre calling you a woman and dismissing your post

>>938
i meant lesbians

>>974
The current hysteria is BPD, not histrionic.
>>973
You're the retard, lmao. Religion is a very embedded aspect in people's lives. If it were so easy to lose it, nobody would believe in that shit.
>>965
>Hating pop music is the most shallow thing ever.
>It really is.
True. The most basic bitch shit there is. Learning to enjoy oneself even in spaces where lab grown cheap ass gay pop is playing is an improvement of one's life. It opens up the horizons of what you can do and where you can be. Bitches be out there segregating themselves in an already segregated segment of society to feel special. Lmao. Can't be me.

>>976
>True. The most basic bitch shit there is. Learning to enjoy oneself even in spaces where lab grown cheap ass gay pop is playing is an improvement of one's life. It opens up the horizons of what you can do and where you can be. Bitches be out there segregating themselves in an already segregated segment of society to feel special. Lmao. Can't be me

Irony is,most underground music is often just spiced up versions of mainstream slop anyway, and it bases it self far too much on "old school" pop music. Even the lyricism is the same. They always wanna sing about how angsty they feel or how everyone else is fake except them. Or they talk about getting high.
And most "anti pop " musicians often are the biggest hedonists and control freaks
Cannot even finish an album without having beef with their band mates or record label over certain song placements or having drug induced frenzies.

>You're the retard, lmao. Religion is a very embedded aspect in people's lives. If it were so easy to lose it, nobody would believe in that shit.


Wanna know a secret? Most people don't believe in God as an actual sentient being. They believe in God as a concept, or rather, treat God as a psychosomatic effect.
Listen. To how people talk about God in such a vague yet personalized manner.

>>976
<bawww don't say mean things about ideology
Shut the fuck up bitch.

I'm wonder how long it will take for just having updated the sex marker and name on my documents to get me bagged by the current burgerland regime. I'm not a post-op passoid and even if I was it's not like they can't make/current have a list of people who updated their documents.

FL and TX want to make it literally fraud to have corrected your sex marker and those are the test beds for what they'd like to do everywhere in the US.

>>894
Forgive me lgbt general for i have circuit queened

>>977
You're right most music is just pop music but with a different name. I hate all of that music too. I used to tolerate punk because I thought it was cool. But none of this music is actually good to listen to. All modern music is a psyop unironically except some types of electronic music and maybe some types of metal. Everything descended from pop is bad. The only good modern pop music was the Beatles and stuff from that time period. And it sucks. I don't understand how people can like any pop or rock music, it's just boring. It has no heart or emotion.

I think most culture nowadays is pretty good, like I don't think books or films or books or games are worse and in fact they are better in many ways. But music is 100% worse than it was 100 years ago. Classical music has also gotten so pretentious, I can't stand radio 3. That's why I unironically listen to a lot of film soundtracks and game sountracks, I think its the next stage of ballet and opera music, which weren't so prestidgious back then but now are held in high regard, because that is the kind of music meant for entertainment. Though this stuff is obviously worse than the best opera and ballet music from back then. Classical and orchestral music is much more beautiful.

I HATE 'gay' music. I forgot who these 'artists' are but I hate them. It's all so vapid and nothingy. There's no emotion here. It's the musical version of one night stands. Vapid, meaningless. Love music nowadays isn't trying to express it through the actual sounds, using the actual medium. It is just the lyrics of "I love you baby I want to own you baby you are my property", or "I love fucking bitches, I am the bitch owner". We're even at a worse point than when it was three chords, because nowadays it doesn't even sound good, there is no chord progression it is just like in Cardi B it is duu duu duu. It is barely music anymore.

Rap was a psyop by whites to destroy actual black music.

Also I sometimes wish people would listen to folk type music again. That's the kind of simple music I think is good. Socialists need to start making more folk music again I think.

Someone with reddit account please post about leftypol on 4tran4, hopefully we could get a local trans community going.
https://www.reddit.com/r/4tran4/comments/1k2d46b/tttt_posters_have_nowhere_left_to_go/

>>982
Fine but you own me a gay interracial post with 2 penises and NO BOOBS on the porn thread

>>983
lmao why did you lie to them, we dont have active /tttt/ community.

feel like a lot of the people that wish they could switch back and forth between genders will realize they don't really want that when they actually medically transition

>>977
>most underground music is often just spiced up versions of mainstream slop anyway
not really
i guess underground rock is a little dumb to be super proud of since its basically descended from elvis/beatles/rolling stones pop music (i dont think any avant garde white person was at the original rock music parties…)
but even in those cases, taking a popular form in a unique artistic direction that deconstructs its modality is still pretty cool
anyways, as for pop music itself, obviously theres good and theres bad

Just got creampied bros

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So, now with the collapse of 4chan, might as well ask this now. Did anybody else here post on /mtf/ back in the days of 8chan?

>>988
No when I posted on 8/lgbt/ I pretty much stayed to the gay threads (I also posted gay interracial couples but that's another story)

>>650455

Right here. As long as legbutts don't start getting accused of being a product of capitalist decadence in the near future as their overall cultural trend tilts further against us, I'll likely stay around.

Why is it that most actual transphobes are rich people. Working class people might say shit on facebook but if they actually know a trans person they're not going to treat you badly. The working class is functionally much more tolerant because we have to be.

I used to identify as nb but realized that power is more important than self expression, and no one likes that they/them shit

>>992
Are you trans? If not, what led an AMAB to identify as NB?

>>968
the issue of discord is that theres an attachment to a name, even if its just within a server. i prefer being anon and detaching from my individuality. Discord with a profile, and friends, and a username, creates a virtual individuality. On an image board i am fleeting and just another voice in the crowd, i like that. either way, discord is just obtuse, there's a level of gatekeeping to information in it, and it doesn't lend itself properly to posting so much as talking.
>>967
t. girl who never actually posted on /tttt/ or /s4s/

>>993
>>993
/repgen/ master race

Simply put the dysphoria is not bad enough to justify the social cost. I only care about achieving power, and money. Ive made peace with the masculine role. Male privilege is too good to give up the goose.

>>994
>t. girl who never actually posted on /tttt/ or /s4s/

Lmao, sounds like you never posted there. /tttt/ was literally filled to the brim with

-2016-era gamergater or Nazis that at one point in the last 10 years noticed they liked frilly dresses but kept all their racist views
-Unironic military contractor programmer tgirls
-followers of all kinds of reactionary online communities
-the 'let's genocide all brown people because they are homophobic' type.

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>>991
This is what we've always been fucking saying! The petit-bourgeois both have more free time and the energy to waste on things like religious fanaticism and have actual reasons to engage in capitalist competition so they resort to things like nationalism, racism, sexism, transphobia, etc. to get ahead of others. The proletariat in their immiseration doesn't have the time nor energy to waste on shit like this beyond some basic prejudice nor do they have anything to gain in doing so like the petit-bourgeois does. There's materially more in common between proletarians of vastly different identities than between two people of the same identity but different class.

>>967
we should have a revolutionary terror against /tttt/ culture with wordfilters for /tttt/speak and bans for anyone who spreads their transmisogynistic fascist bullshit on here

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Lol even in the anglosphere transphobes are a loud minority.

>>999
rip to the 7% self-hating transes

>>999
Ngl I'm kinda surprised at the lesbian stats since I expected that to be a big source of TERFs.

>>1001
TERFs are generally not actually 'radical' they're just right wing suburban wine moms

>>1001
the terfs that complain about trans women in lesbian spaces are mostly hetero women and gay men

>>1001
It was all a myth started by transphobes themselves as usual.

>>650455
I was curious but the vibes are kind of rancid around here. I don't think I'll stick around.

>>1005
In what way? Transphobes get banned.

>>1006
Too much self serious pseudposting for my tastes. Makes me feel like I'm on leftbook circa 2018.

>>1007
Oh yeah it's pretty annoying but not really different from any other online leftoid space. I'm a pedantic faggot too but I know when to be one.

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I miss /tttt/

Can you guys recommend me some emotionaly raw contend dealing with dysphoria? Videos, articles, books, dont care, I just want to feel.

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>>1005
>vibes are kind of rancid around here
true
>>1010
ecco2ks album e

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>>1010
I recently watched Hamlet (1921).

>>1001
most TE"RF"s aren't radical, aren't feminists, and are usually straight women. this meme needs to die

>>1013
they're peak bourgeoisie feminism, you can't maintain your position in the capitalist hierarchy without punching down after all

>>1013
Radical feminists aren't radical either. Not that "radical" isn't just vibes, either way.

>>1009
me too now I don't have enough self disgust to fuel my existance

you ever notice how the picrel for these threads is always yuri? typical male fetishism.

>>1017
yes because yuri is incredibly cute and the purest form of love, keep it going

t. pooner

>>1017
What's wrong with being male and having fetishes? Aren't you people supposed to be sexually positive or something?

>>1017
Having sexual desires about commonly arousing things is bad i agree

>>1017
Tru, yaoi is better.

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>>1017
typical aro erasure tbh

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Jacques Camatte died today, check in on your local transbian.

>>1023
source?


>>1023
I really hope that primitivist reactionary died fr fr


>>1027
damn, rip for real

>>1027
rest in piss Evola fan, you won't be missed

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>>1000
7% really said "cant stand you bitches"

nytimes did an article on the blare flemings controversy
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/20/magazine/trans-athletes-women-college-sports.html
>https://archive.is/d5eMz
it's kinda comfy to read. feels like a 00s movie plot set in california

they should've used more pics of blaire to make people in the comments seethe harder, though

>>999
25% is still a lot of people
its sadly unsurprising that gay men are the weaker link, and pleasantly surprising than lesbians like trans people more than trans people themselves lol

>>1001
terfs have usually been straight women in my experience

>>1033
i think its because lesbians are also considered sexual predators and perverts, so theyre more sympathetic about being painted with that brush
theyve also tolerated gender nonconformity much more
a lot of "terf lesbians" are probably political lesbians as well
anyways, the 25% of brits are probably the most powerful percentile of the population unfortunately

>>999
>2023
that was a million years ago basically

>>976
i stopped being christian when i realized i was gay as a kid. it wasn't that difficult. one day i pretty much told god he wasn't real and went and "attacked" the palm leaf crucifix my family kept in the garage and nothing happened afterwards which confirmed it

>>1036
i had the same experience when i realized i was trans and gay. i just dropped it, no painful process or anything. i probably already realized it was violent bullshit deep down. tho ngl, i probably still have some religious trauma

>>1037
when i was in middle school (which is when all this happened) i had some developing christianity-induced homophobia but it never took root and so i've never felt bad about being gay or thought much of it.

it's only lately that i've felt some occasional anxiety about it due to the growing rightoid tide around the world.

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jiggly is dead after getting one of her legs amputated

The "glasses, messy hair, tired but bright expression, futchy outfit" combo is the hottest aesthetic a tgirl can attain.

>>1040
>messy hair
you mean curls

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>>1042
It's not on the top bar or the front page

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>>1042
well, here's to seeing how much use will be made of it

>>1042
You're too late. All /tttt/ refugees went back with 4chud being ressurected

>>1045
Good. There's enough unmedicated mental illness on here.

Wuz gud nyughaaaaas?

>>1042
Is not on the main board so the only way to access it is through this thread, fix it jannoids

>there is no essential difference between men and women
< :^)
>there is no essential difference between cis and trans
< :^(

why?

>>1049
>there is no essential difference between men and women
Nobody says this.

>>1050
i say this, there is no evidence of essential difference between men and women.

>>1050
there is not a single marxist argument for essential difference between men and woman
t. not >>1051, surprisingly

>>1051
>>1052
cokc
vagina

>>1052
Sure, if you want to deny sexual dimorphism and the historical development of gender roles that arose from biological differences.

>>1053
>>1054
essential

>>1055
Marxism doesn't argue for essentialism, but it also doesn’t deny reality. Sexual dimorphism, real biological differences between men and women exists. What Marxism focuses on is how class society shaped and distorted those differences into social inequality.

Engels explained how the rise of private property and the patriarchal family led to the systematic subordination of women. That’s not based on biology alone, it’s based on how biology was organized under specific relations of production.

>>1056
so you agree that there are no essential differences between men and women.

>>1057
Cock or no cock is essential to me.

>>1058
please provide evidence of this "cock essence" or btfo

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>>1059
behold, essence of cock
(with spices added)

So when is this thread getting move to /lgbt/, so that /siberia/ can officially become leftycel board.

>>894
RIP the general

>>1062
RIP this fucking site

I've been holding off on losing my virginity by doing it with a girl first, and then allow myself with guys to "prove" my bisexuality – should I stop doing that?

>>1063
maybe if you stopped being rude to anons it would get a little better? oh wait, you're a Tor user, you can rule break as much as you want. guess I'm adding glownonymous into the filter list.

>>894
I knew an lgbt board was just a way to cause segregation

Congratulations homophobes and gay misandrist alike, you both got what you wanted

>>1110
>>1110
you cant get rid of positively critical replies to your liberal posts. you cant hide from the truth. this is supposed to be anti-idpol website. now they copy 4chan and make liberal faggot board xD

>>1114
you're textbook definition of a subhuman.

>>1115
you are liberal. go back to 4chan

>>1114
The fagslop will continue until the workers are subjugated

>>1115
Maybe if you stopped being rude to Anons it would get a little better? 🙄

>>1114
this board isnt any more or less "idpol" than the hobby boards i.e. neither has anything to do with communism but theyre there to post, not be the fucking vanguard

>>1137
Queer struggle is the class struggle. Queer emancipation is class emancipation. Etc

>>1138
>if i use le marx flag im right
cool slogans dipshit. just like theres proletarian queers theres also bourgeois queers

There's a meme where LGBT is an acronym representing various Communists, I was wondering if we could all agree on which letter represents who?

Obviously L = Lenin
G could be Gramsci or Gonzalo?
B could be Bordiga or Bukharin?
T could be Trotsky or Thälmann?

I've seen so many variants of it I think it's time we decide on the correct version once and for all…

>>1142
Limonov
Gorky
Bandera
Trotsky

>>1142
Luxenburg
Gonzalo
Bebel
Tubman

Lysenko
Gorky
Browder
Tito

Laozi
Guenon
Bin Laden
Teto

>>1142
Lin Biao
Guevara
Bo Xilai
Traore

>>1139
And?

>>1114
I didn't see you sperging out over the latam board, go back to your hetmoid containment thread, hazcel

/tr/ becoming /vp/ type beat

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Should we create a /soc/ tread? I can't use discord. Matrix? XMPP? I really need to tal to someone

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>>1206
>project this onto an imagined other
tell this ni*ga that >>1140

>"mysogyny part of puritainism"

>idpol shit
that or the newer genz of twitter are more prude and less less receptive to weeaboo bullshit
also i don't see you nig*as saying this uygh* was wrong, most twitter users are wrong n shit and say shit to act like redditors, but uygh*s saying shit about that, the user must be 1/12 correct at this point
it's still 1/8 true tho

>>1322
>genuine
>after the tread detrimental with unrelated shit in the shipping thread about /get/ shit
>posting more /get/ afterwards
Still ew with your shit regardless


So I’m mostly straight but lately I really wanna explore my bi side a bit more but I’m kinda shy and I don’t quite know how to flirt with other men, is there a way I can go about casually meeting and getting more comfy with fellow dudes? I live near a lot of gay bars but I dunno if that’s the right idea yet.

>>1540
try a dating app

>>1545
I think I’m going to, yeah

What's your guys thoughts on feminism?
Ever since interacting interacting with a few on instagram, and on here – I've become jaded or deeply frustrated with them.

Especially here with anfem poster, which now I just think that only reason they don't hate lgbt men is to just use them as shields, like maga-conservatives/red-liberals.

>>1634
I love them, they're our natural allies


I love women in general, I only have disdain for straight men

>>1634
terfs are just the logical conclusion of feminism

>>1635
>natural allies
lmao

>>1636
They literally are tho

>>1639
gay misandrist, get off the board, i once thought the same shit as this until i realized it's all bullshit

>>1635
> Natural allies
Whenever I talk to them, they seem to find the idea of recognizing men having issues as somehow oppressive, until cornered in which they finally go
> Fine!!! Men have issues!!!!
< But it's actwually your choice to have that and you guys are actively choosing to not just dismantle patriarchy despite that would require fighting against the fucking state.

It's one if you're talking about the goonettes that love gay/bin men since of their shota porn, but otherwise many I've spoken to come off as pink fascists.


>>1642
Don't pay gay misandrist much mind, they and anfem poster argue in dogmas and poor frameworks.
They unironically see themselves as Ben Shapiros with
> Facts don't care about your feelings
But cant explain what factual proof would make a genocide bad for instance, (an argument that requires more than facts) – but here they dress it up in "empathy".
(if "empathy" just means to maximize your ability to rape/abuse, then they'd be more moral granted).

>>1662
>Don't pay gay misandrist much mind
lmao ive met plenty of transphobic gay men to even pay attention to that retard

>>1634
Feminism ideals to emancipate women in the abstract whereas the proletariat seeks to emancipate itself practically, not by distinguishing between genders or identity but distinguishing itself as a class. Proletarian/marxist/communist feminism is an oxymoron. Working class women don't struggle and get exploited under capitalism as women, they do so as proletarians.

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>>1666
When some airhead skips Luxemburg, acting like she waved a feminist flag, spoiler alert: she absolutely didn't. Feminism's a farce, and there's barely a hair's difference between bourgeois feminism and the so-called Marxist feminism.

>>1662
Their problems are with hetero males, not us

>>1671
The vast majority of gay men are massive misogynists

>>1672
Not even yourself believe in such ludicrous crap

>>1671
>>1673
Thinking only straight guys invalidate trans guys in sexual encounters is so funny.

>>1672
No???????? On the complete opposite we love Women, sounds like hetero moid projecting

The vast majority of hetero men are misogynists, homophobes and general reactoid subhumans

>>1675
It's straight guys who invalidate, and verbally and physically harass us, who dehumanize us and have been the sole responsible for all our miseries since inmemorable times, it's straight guys the sole responsibles for women oppression

If you fail to see why feminists (and I dare to say even women in general) are natural allies of the gays then nothing can(USER WAS WARNED FOR LACK OF HISTORICAL AND CLASS ANALYSIS)

>>1681
>>1682
you sound genuinely mentally handicapped lol

>>1671
Hetero males now.
Hatred towards men is a crack that leads to other bigotry and reactionary thinking – this is why we have terfs for instance, or white supremacist feminism.


>>1681
>>1682
Take a look at these 2 posters for instance.
It's one they overly represented reactionary ideology, but it's a lie to say vast majority.
This conflation is what feminists do with crime statistics, arguing unironic post-911 cult of fear crap, despite its massive drop and clear understanding in material conditions.

It's that thinking is why the perfect loveable women feminists were arguing that black men would vote for Donald Trump – then after election would be mixed on if to add women to the "rather go with the bear" list.

>>1683
Fuck off. You come into a thread about LGBT with some weird ass point about gay men being misogynists, then call others "mentally handicapped" LMFAO.

>>1696
im not the same person you dumb fucking retard

>You come into a thread about LGBT

maybe because im trans

>>1701
Mald

>>1705
I know you are but what am I?

>>1706
No, I know you are, but what am I?

>>1707
Cum in my ass

>>1682
User warned for saying the truth

>>1682
>>1721
Wanna explain women working in the state and even had detrimental leader ship positions (like thatcher)?
Want to explain why bourgeosis women are fine with the system and exploit?
Want to explain why the exploitation occurs even despite the race or religion or whatever?
You want to explain it?

No, you're a feminist that desires nothing but subjugation.
Liberal feminists, the dominant feminism, contains no natural allys – kill your self, and get the fuck out of this general.

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How do you do, fellow Africans?

>>1723
>Wanna explain women working in the state and even had detrimental leader ship positions (like thatcher)?
The system can absorb individuals from time to time
Also you're talking about class, which is a more complicated issue
The point is that feminism is gonna be aligned with LGBT rights most of the time, which is, like, an almost banal observation, tbh

>>1724
hey poles are black, the first leader of haiti said so

>>1726
Different poster.
The issue is exactly that feminism, regardless of its allegiance to queer politics, is bourgeois. If it aligns with queer politics in anyway, it is through the consciousness of the proprietor, the general, and the exploiter.
Your detachment from class makes you falsely believe that ALL queer politics is ALWAYS worth championing, while the opposite is true. Pure, liberal idealism.

>>1733
Folks here are too braindead to realize that being interclassist makes it inherently anticommunist.

>>1734
Communism itself suffers from interclassism, all the leaders of the successful ML parties were petit bourgeois

>>1735
There's worlds of difference between a petit-bourgeois class traitor like Engels or Lenin and whatever the fuck Mao et al tried to do.

>>1734
We don't need to speculate. We have the historic record. Same with social democracy and Proudhons anarchism or indeed all anarchism.

>>1735
Marxism-Leninism is not communism (little, or big 'c').

>>1726
> More complicated issue
It's literally tied to how we've had this society.
What the fuck do you think came first, general slavery or slavery of women?
There's a reason why racism was only invented like 400 years ago by the spaniards.


>>1733
The issue is that it's a broad movement that here has turned liberal, plus has had a history of being white supremacist.
Feminists instead of recognizing limits just go
> We define!!!!!!!!
Like fuck off, no matter what bullshit you spew you can't argue that terfs cant be categorized under feminism – your rapey definition changing doesnt change that.

>>1739
>has turned liberal
Stop making shit up, emancipating women in the abstract is liberal from the get-go.

>>1737
>>1733
go back to your lgbt genocide country >>>/latam/ >>>/latam

>>1748
>youre either queerphobic or a liberal collaborator
youre making their point dipshit

>>1740
Please explain the surge of feminists arguing to bring 4b because Kamala (blue Hitler), lost to Donald Trump (red Hitler).

>emancipating women in the abstract is liberal from the get-go

Emancipation isn't inherently liberal.

100% you were the type of person to see Chairman Mao's:
> Combat liberalism
And thought that meant being a combative liberal.


>>1748
This is the worst reply to already terrible post.
You should've just went full mask off and say >>>/hamas/

>>1765
>Emancipation isn't inherently liberal.
have you tried reading the following words retard. not even the most prominent marxist women were for feminism because its interclassist by definition

communism is the emancipation of the proletariat, no more no less, any consequence of the abolition of class society is a happy accident

theres no point in a lgbt general thread anymore, now that it's an entire board

>>1791
i wonder what the intention behind removing this thread from /siberia/ was…

>>1767
I read read your words and their moronic.
Women need a unique liberation tied to their identity of being a woman along side their identity of being a proletariat.

Saying
> communism is the emancipation of the proletariat, no more no less
<(which isn't entirely true since it's about establishment of private property),
Doesn't counter the fact that part of that liberation is all the spooks and crap put onto the workers. Like why do you think successful communist movements were anti-racism for instance?


>>1791
Posting on the board is unappealing.
I still don't see why it's a whole board, it's insanely overkill.
It's like they saw leftychan with like 20 dead boards and went
>Hold up they're cookn

>>1870
>Women need a unique liberation tied to their identity
Massive lib moment holy shit lol. Bourgeois women have nothing in common with proletarian women.

>>1870
>>1765
Middle class women and bourgeois are privileged and aren't exploited for their labor with no reserves under this society. I'm not even talking about work at home, of which the dynamic isn't like 20 years ago, I mean productive labor. So there's no way one can speak of a universal exploitation of women as its own social category with unanimous conditions under which compels them to have shared interests to struggle for. One is wealthy and commands over labor power and politics, the other is trying to survive. That's the issue I'm contesting here.

Working class women don't struggle and get exploited under capitalism as women, they do so as proletarians and communism isn't a movement to emancipate 'humanity' or whatever the fuck. People like Rosa simply said that the emancipation of women is in lieu with the overall goals of socialism, not by bandaging 'marxist' to bourgeois rights. That takes away from the class struggle and its ends of abolishing such social categories as they emerged in class society, along with class society itself. Feminism is inherently an interclass movement and applying it or other ones like equality and rights of races, nations, claims for liberty, justice, etc. to the proletarian movement doesn't make them any less anti-communist.

><(which isn't entirely true since it's about establishment of private property),

The abolition of class society and property emancipates the proletariat, genius.

>>1791
thread sucked anyways, its just some chud calling feminism bourgeois or whatever

>>1874
>interclass movements based on ideals and rights aren't bourgeois because they just aren't ok?
Lol I'm literally trans, sorry I defiled your idols or whatever. Just zero critical analysis on this shithole as usual.

>>1873
>>1872
Proletariat women are not only oppressed for being proletarians, but also receive unique oppression in stuff like lower wages despite being in the same field – this is just material reality.
Recognizing their unique additional oppression is necessary since capital in general will exploit one sub group over the other to bribe the other, with an additional demonizing of each other – racism is a famous example.

This isn't to say that bourgeosis women are oppressed because they're women, they're so benefiting of their class that it overrides that – both of these things work together.

>The abolition of class society and property emancipates the proletariat, genius.

If you're going to be snarky, you need to do it right.
(Unlike me which forgets to add words).


>>1874
Thread sucks because it's a dead board, not because a "chud" doesn't get a now liberal movement that's constantly white washed.

>>1894
chud transhumanist. tale as old as time

>>1900
Is /lgbt/ just gonna be queer siberia?

>>1896
>lower wages despite being in the same field
This is only a thing in high-earning jobs. Not beating the midle-class allegations.

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>>1896
>>1900
>>1874
Clara Zetkin was absolutely brutal when it came to tearing feminism apart for what it really is. Worth noting, she wasn't a feminist, and 'marxist feminism' isn't even a thing anyway.

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>>1896
>>1900
>>1874
>>1905
This is Eleanor Marx about women workers, highlighting how middle-class women's interests diverge from those of working class women, and how feminists (women's rights-ers) differ from working class women.

Luxemburg's stance on feminism is well-known enough so not gonna bother posting that one.

>>1905
>Women's oppression serves to divide the proletariat.
>Emancipation within the capitalist framework leaves women in a class position.
>Proletarian women have more to gain from organizing with men than to fight an inter-class struggle.
While i think this analysis largely holds up, i find the wholesale dismissal of engaging with this intra-class competition very short-sighted. Is the economic discrimination of women, like those of racial minorities, not a very visible head of the capitalist hydra that can spur organization? Likewise the eventual disappearance of the need for such underclasses does not automatically result in the disappearance of related ressentiments. Need i remind you the emancipation from the family structure was fought for in the USSR, unsuccesfully. Feminism is a valuable tool for marxists, to a point.

Yet there is also another side to the issue, besides how women should organize with respect to their class. Gender ideology necessarily pervades every aspect of society and most apparently can lead to the trivialization of uniquely women's issues. I would argue bourgeois feminism is pretty transparent in every one of its incarnations. Proletarian women's economic marginalization and the gendered burden of childcare are a part of the wider proletarian struggle, as much as the working conditions of amazon warehouse employees or price gouging in healthcare, and, in addition to present economic conditions, they are both enforced by patriarchal notions of women's inferiority and predisposition towards mother roles. The enduring prevalence of such notions even among the working class is the reason women need to loudly advocate for their own issues, or risk being brushed aside.

Need a twink who can swallow anything

>>1931
Im sorry Im not the person I was when I wrote this

>>1932
Or? 😈

>>1933
Hmm nah. Im normal again

>>1905
Idk why this reply when the first image explains that proletariat women are unequal to proletariat men.

Also your second post ( >>1906 ), is just highlighting liberals in the movement and the sway/leading it has.

The problem I had was simplifying the contradictions of the struggle to just purely proletariat vs bourgeois, when it's clear that, even if they're extensions of the first dialect, they still exist.

You're misunderstanding me in thinking that I'm arguing for the solution to be derived from that liberal-feminist framework, or that a communist movement should work part within in it to satisfy those liberals.

And confused when I'm using the modern (water down) definition of feminism of being:
> When you're for the liberation of women and men from the patriachy
And saying that communism, a movement that logically incorporates it but to those less read in theory would not realize this (hence le "maga-communism"), would aim to liberate proletariat women more than just their status as a worker.

>>1931
>>1932
>>1933
>>1934
Get a room you two
you two would be cute together

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I think I might be mostly gay or like only able to be satisfied in a monogamous relationship with a woman. But I'm in a relationship with a guy again and thinking of moving in together. I don't feel worthy of dating women and feel like a total creep in general, so ig I am somehow more comfortable dating men even if I feel unsatisfied. Also it's really shitty of me if I mislead my bf or see men as less desirable or precious or hurt his feelings by being crazy like this. I am pretty insane in general tho and kinda cope sometimes by being inappropriately flirtatious. Should I just become a monk and live in the forest and let myself become busted and alone or something?
Ok my actual question is wat do relationship wise? Should I break up with him? Give it time and maybe I will chill tf out and sort some baggage or get dumped but it's worth trying?


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