>>9651>As for girls, I’ll say that femininity is subjective but if data is to be believed, the features of pubertal females are deemed by most normal men to be more feminine than that of post-pubertal women. For me, I do think that girls are more feminine than women considering how much of heterosexual attraction is based on female neoteny, which is why a great deal of beloved Disney princesses are neotenous.This is partially true. Most men are more attracted to early post-pubertal females
Girls are only seen as more feminine than women in terms of small and slenderness but that’s only one type of femininity.
Men show greater interest in boobs and ass than mere slenderness by itself.
A lot of teen girls often express jealousy of their fellow female peers/relatives having greater mammary/posterior development than them. Guys aren’t gonna show much interest in flat chested flat-booty girls
Disney princesses are neotenous because they appeal to a child audience.
>I did say ‘more feminine’ insofar that boys have features resembling girls and women the most relative to adult men, such as a slim figure, greater grace, less boney, soft facial features, and a higher-pitched voice compared to men. I acknowledge it’s not universal to all boys, but you’d have to agree that someone like Donald Trump is going to be less feminine than someone like Desmond is Amazing from back in 2015.Wdym by “less boney”? You mean how they they appear more fleshy?
Also “grace” is more an aesthetic impression than anything physiognomic.
Also, I hate term “adult men/women”. It’s redundant. It’s like saying “chicken hen/chicken rooster”. Men are adult human males, women are adult human females.
Also, have you seen pictures of Donald Trump in childhood and prime adult years?
He was a real looker?
Look up photos of Donald Trump in the 1970s and early 80s.
>As for the rest, I’m not part of the LGBTQ+ community so I don’t have much to add, but I do agree that LGBTQ is too slanted towards gynocentrism at the expense of the masculine aesthetic as shown by how “bears” are treated as nothing more than a meme compared to twinksTwinks are treated as a meme as well.
There’s a lot of hate for twinks and femboys as being “attention whores” or “hogging all male attraction”.
Also bears are the only masculine archetype that’s promoted which is another problem in itself
>Agree about androgyny not being the same as femininity, but I don’t think it necessarily means that boys can’t be feminine, considering how past homosexual ideals often had semblances of heterosexuality where the boy played a passive role in contrast to the older dominant partner. An example would be Nero and ElegabolusYou’re also forgetting about Islam with bacha bazi. Regardless those kind of pederastic relations wanted to dress up boys too much like girls.
If they would at least let the boys do occasional topping.