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 No.13898[View All]

Hello everyone. This is the thread to make proposals. Feel free to have your say whether user or mod. We have these proposals did not pass last week, but may be worthy of further discussion:



Proposal: Moderator votes remain the counted votes in admin decisions, but users should let vote using strawpolls (or perhaps polling systems built into the site?) per topic to display general user attitude to a proposal. If the majority User opinion directly opposes moderator majority vote then the proposals should be discussed and votes called on again after a break of 1-2 weeks to let people rethink positions on a topic.


Proposal: Make this the ‘official’ Leftypol channel >>>/leftypol/534666



Proposal: I think that we should also keep the current userbase engaged, making things like weekly game tournaments, actual organized debates, movie nights followed by discussion and so on. I've been thinking that a weekly leftypol podcast could be a good idea, just a couple of anons talking about what happened in the board and the world during the past week and inviting people to talk if they so desire, we could have debates there, and interviews and other things, and share it on spotify for others to see.



Once again, I must clarify that ONLY MODS CAN ACTUALLY VOTE ON PROPOSALS OR VOTES. Anons are free to have their say and offer suggestions and feedback to improve proposals/votes but these are only advisory and user votes are not counted for official decisionmaking. But who knows, a persuasive enough argument might sway the mod team to your cause?

Please reply to this post to post proposals for consideration next week. If a user proposal seems like a good idea, we may adopt it and make it official. Thanks everyone. Feel free to post your opinions but try not to spam or needlessly bicker back and forth in order to keep the thread clear and legible. Any off-topic posts may be removed without warning.
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 No.20485


 No.20487

>>20463
Sounds like a good idea.

 No.20488

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>>20482
>ad hominum
<Hurr censorship is good stoopid conspiritard don't question "the facts"
You're on the wrong site.

 No.20495

>>20488
conspiracism is literally liberalism

 No.20509

>>20466
I agree that swiss-cheesing is annoying, where theres just a bunch of replied to dead posts. Then you also get people replying to already-deleted posts. I was supposed to make the thread updater mark deleted/warned posts maybe a year ago, I will make that priority #1.
>leftypol loves taking the bait so youd just end up banning way too many people
Do we want to be in a position where taking the bait is normal? Honest question, not rhetorical: dumb stuff can be entertaining.
If we do want that to change, is it better to try and make a cultural shift as a community rather than enforce it by moderation?

 No.20510

>>20509
>Do we want to be in a position where taking the bait is normal?
well like i said sometimes replies to bait are somewhat informative because the bait that gets the most responses here is malicious misinformation, but most of the time its just (well deserved) variations of "fuck off retard", those can go for sure

 No.20511

>>20509
>>20510
though i guess the issue is that this means mods will have to waste time checking which orphaned posts are worth deleting and which ones arent every time they delete successful trolls

 No.20527

>>20495
No porky, but nice try at trying to grifting leftism

 No.20530

>>20527
Conspiracism just glorifies the good, abstinent capitalists who drive Honda civics and spend quality time with their daughters during the hours when they aren't keeping the labor exploitation machine greased and people will call you a liberal for pointing this out, as if Conspiracy Theories aren't based on a fundamentally liberal notion of good governance that's somehow disrupted by the conspiracy.

 No.20533

>>20530
>Conspiracism just glorifies the good, abstinent capitalists who drive Honda civics and spend quality time with their daughters
Schizophrenic projecting that i an utter non=argument, go back CIA.
>Conspiracy Theories aren't based on a fundamentally liberal notion of good governance
LMAO the fuck are you talking about? That's not what conspiracy theories are AT ALL, read a fucking book
>people will call you a liberal for pointing this out
No they call you a retard, for having no critical thinking and mindlessly eating up the lies of capitalists that have no moral qualms on siccing their CIA lapdogs on you to do medical and social experiments or seeling you bad products by having an establishment of bought out scientists tell you that its confirmed and good and look at all these peer reviews circlejerking the status quo. Conspiracy Theories are almost entirely anti-establishment and anti-capitalist.

 No.20541

Anyone ever notice how the wealthy control everything? Idk what’s up with that. I can’t really understand it. It’s definitely something dark and mysterious we need to uncover by listening to my podcast and subscribing to my patreon for extra content. I’m a Marxist btw.

 No.20542

>>20533
>>20541
The conspiracy=schizo/rightwing idealism meme comes from the bourgeois co-option of people, mostly sane rational, usually leftist people questioning the official narrative of 9/11. The People questioning the official narrativw behind the Kennedy assassination were also "conspiracy theorists". The Kennedy assassination and subsequent coverup mark one of the turning points in the American people's trust in their governemnt. After this event reported levels of trust plumetted. Most normies, even boomers, know some fucky shit happened then. To imply drawing conjecture about the role of the state in mass murders is insane and deserving of shunning and ridicule as a baseline is to play into a bourgeois narrative constructed to cover up real incidents of secret conspiracy from the state, including that which has already been unconvered and even admitted to, such as with the "WMDs in Iraq" narrative.

 No.20582

>>20542
mah man here really bringing up the murder of jfk to defend himself lmfao bruh…
i love leftoids comparing the discussion of public documents to fucking antivaxx and other loony right-wing shit, fuck off mate

 No.20585

If you want to talk about conspiracy shit be more like Edburg and less like generic failbook boomer whining about vaccines and freedom, please.

 No.20599

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>>20541
Niceshitty strawman
>I can’t really understand it
That's literally the opposite of conspiracy theories LMAO
>It’s definitely something dark and mysterious we need to uncover by listening to my podcast and subscribing to my patreon for extra content
<"conspiracy theories is ven sumbudy is a zoommer eceleb saying hot takes"
Touch grass
>>20582
>leftoids comparing the discussion of public documents to fucking antivaxx and other loony right-wing
<Hurr I didn't read the documents about people bringing up real issues in medical corruption and bourg manipulations so it's all 'le rightving loonies'
Give a pregnant girl some Thalidomide dude, all the scientists say its perfectly safe! And don't forget cigarettes are definitely good for your health, finally make sure to head down to Tuskegee and get those new vaccines, all that talk about syphilis is just conspiritard shit haha!

Fuck off anglotard.

 No.20615

>>20599
youre really proving your point by posting /pol/ memes against vaccines and queers

 No.20616

anyway im here to ask again for "conspiracism" to be bannable, like the antivass trash exhibited itt, not just posting declassified cia documents

 No.20647

Switch the USApol OP to something a little less eyesore-y than a fucking mutt meme and a twitter wojak

 No.20656

>>20647
it is peak americana comrade

 No.20668

>>20647
Ukraine general needs to be updated too, lots of outdated stuff in the OP.

 No.20672

>>20615
>Not addressing the argument
>"muh /pol/"
>"Muh gays"
Fuck off you concern trolling shit, this is leftyPOL not your safespace.

>>20616
>the antivass trash exhibited itt
<Saying that people shouldn't be censored because they don't conform to a narrative you believe in because scientists belonging to a corrupt system should be banned because your echochamber might collapse
Good god you are pathetic, imagine being such a whiny bitch that you strawman your opposition and after you get caught, try to twist it as being "different from le CIA documents" and blatantly ignoring your fallacious approach.

 No.20739

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>>20672
> this is leftyPOL not your safespace.
NTA. Your behavior is indistinguishable from the hypothetical situation in which you were sent here by your handler with the task of enabling the smearing of the site with the "just as bad as the /PitOfLunatics/ but on the left" narrative. In that hypothetical situation those who were assigned that task would out themselves by responding with over-the-top aggression to any suggestion that would weaken that narrative, such as a suggestion to clean up at least the grosser forms of bigotry on this site. They would defend bigotry as "chan culture", with the underlying motivation of enabling the narrative they were tasked to promote. If the grosser forms of bigotry were cleaned up on their watch, so that not even a remote equivalence on bigotry could be drawn any longer between this site and the /PoolOfLosers/, they will have failed their assigned task. Just hypothetically speaking, of course.

 No.20740

>>20672
This post is very puzzling lol. Good to know we have actual schizos posting, I guess.

 No.20771

>>20739
no, anti-vaxxers are just like that
no fed conspiracy needed

 No.20790

>>20740
>S-schizo
Explain how.

>>20739
>our behavior is indistinguishable from the hypothetical situation in which you were sent here by your handler
<Can't argue or defend unnecessary censorship, so let me claim you're "le fedz"
<The feds, that have ben suppressing any conspiracies (such as those criticizing Big Pharma) are going to send people arguing that banning criticism of Cov19 vaccines
Are you retarded or do you truly lack any critical thinking about logical consistency?
>smearing of the site with the "just as bad as the /PitOfLunatics/ but on the left"
LMAO wut? How is pointing out a fundemental part of the site being intrinsically politically incorrect but leftist a smear?
>hypothetical situation
Using snide wording does not make you any less of a retard
>a suggestion to clean up at least the grosser forms of bigotry on this site
Ah so you're that retard that got BTFO on the Ukraine General and made up a bunch of horseshit about "le red fasheests and beegots" and then complained here on /meta/ only to be told off for literally making shit up.
>They would defend bigotry as "chan culture"
You're shifting goalpostss and derailing in an attempt to deflect the argument being made by trying to take NOT CENSORING PEOPLE EXPOSING BLATANT PORKY MANIPULATION and equate them to RACISTS, despite you having no basis to your claim or any logical connection.

If anything YOU are more likely a glowie for trying to shut down people discussing topics freely.

>>20771
>anti-vaxxers are just like that
<questioning the narrative spread by porky and not trusting untested new vaccines is just the same as being anti-scientific
*Laughs in DPRK*

 No.20835

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>>20352
I repeat the sentiment of this post, Archive.is is not infallible and cannot save some sites, neither can archive.org (robots.txt) and freezepage/Googlecache have been failing as of late, not to mention that saved archives can be deleted at the discresion of archive site owners. I cannot archive pdfs from this site for example because robots.txt blocks archive.org and archive.today doesn't save pdf htmls properly. If a /leftypol_archive/ and even a /siberia_archive/ exist, then /hobby_archive/ should too.

 No.20836

>>20835
I see no reason not to have a hobby archive, though maybe it should be an archive for all altboards, just to prevent having a silly amount of mostly empty archive boards

 No.20840

if you like a thread why dont you just take a pic or archive it or whatever, stop asking jannies to change your diapers all the fucking time jesus

 No.20843

>>20836
An alt_archive is a pretty good idea actually.

>>20840
>Just take a pic
Not efficient and other people like to view the content, there's a reason 4chan has had archives for a long time and even 8chan had one.
>archive it
I just explained that archives are unreliable, and its easier to link to an existing thread rather than reposting a full post.
>stop asking jannies to change your diapers
The fuck are you on about? How does this in any way affect you, if you don't use an archive boards, good for you, stop being a faggot.

 No.20855

>>20843
>How does this in any way affect you
it affects me when youre asking for server resources and mod attention to be used on irrelevant shit

>archives are unreliable

this website is unreliable too, it could go down any second for no reason forever
if you want to archive a thread that much, you should do it yourself and do backups if you want it to be "reliable"

 No.20862

>>20855
>youre asking for server resources and mod attention to be used on irrelevant shit
No this doesn't affect you, you're creating an excuse and your opinion on "irrellvant shit" is fucking laughable.
>this website is unreliable too
So? The point is redundancy and making things available for people to search back to. The entire Ukraine videos thread'd be lost alongside all its content because archive.is and wayback don't archive videos at all and cannot archive pdfs from leftypol due to robots.txt
>if you want to archive a thread that much, you should do it yourself and do backups if you want it to be "reliable"
that's not how it works you imbecile.

 No.20941

Moderate the altboards so that repetitive threads are unified into generals.

 No.20942

>>20941
lets stifle discussion to appease a couple of autists

 No.20943

also what the fuck is an "altboard"

 No.20945

>>20942
>U-ur stifling!!!
6 months later and you retards still have no proofs.

 No.20946

Hello, i would like to ask something.
What would guys think about doing a thread about organisation methods and ideas about how it can be improved upon or added to communist parties ?.

 No.20948

>>20946
Sounds good, go for it. Or do you mean you want us mods to make it?

 No.21057

>>20948
TBH i don't know what board it would fit in or where to start, but it's always a good thing to talk about these things.

 No.21103

>>20948
but anyway mod's, what should i do ?.

 No.21104

>>21057
>>21103
I dunno, just make it on leftypol I guess? Or edu if you prefer a slower pace

 No.21105

>>21103
Just make the thread on /leftypol/ and if they piss you off with shitposting make it again on /edu/ at some point

 No.21157

>>13898
Proposal to change the predefined ban lengths to:

Predefined Reasons:
Length - Reason
10m - Responding to obvious bait
30m - Flaming, overly disruptive/hostile posting
1h - Spamming threads with unrelated discussion, spamming the same topic repeatedly
2h - Disruptive identity politics, reactionary thought, et cetera
12h - Samefagging, building false consensus, enflaming arguments by taking both sides
1d - Hysterical, gratituitously offensive, hateful posting, edgelordism etc.
10d - Bait topic, false flag topic, /pol/ spam topic (not machine spam)
30d - Machine spam, advertising spam, gorespam, etc (not off-topic discussion)
(double original ban length) - Ban evasion
Permaban - Illegal content

Second offenses: double time
Third offenses: triple time
Fourth offenses: quadruple time (and so on)

If a user incurs a ban length of over 90 days (through repeat offenses) they may be permabanned at moderator discretion.

NOTE: Mods can still use bans/reasons outside this template whenever they want, this is just a guideline.

I vote aye.

 No.21158


 No.21164

>>21157
WTF you can get banned for responding to bait?
Stop bullying dumb people! This is an outrage!

 No.21178

Am I a joyless bastard for thinking that making posts that amount to >"you're from x website" should be a slap-on-the-wrist tier bannable offence akin to responding to bait?
Even if an anon is responding to a total liberal or polyp its just the lamest form of posting; Make an actual argument, no? To me, it's one step above quoting someone and posting a soyjack. It's internet idpol and I'm tired of pretending it's not

 No.21204

>>21157
I'd add "offender is a namefag" double time, "known schizo" triple time

 No.21280

Are there any punishments that mods are subjected to in the case that they ban people erroneously? Sometimes the bans are ridiculous. Like one incomprehensible word given for the ban justification, even though the rules should've forbidden that.

 No.21281

>>21280
this isn't the right thread
but potentially, yes. no one likes bad bans. however some things may sound ridiculous cause the shit we deal with is ridiculous (guessing at your meaning here).

 No.21282


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