In order to further the production of native OC or other under-utilised memes, it is proposed to ban the following types of meme templates from /siberia/ (this may be extended to the entire board if the experiment is successful):
- Soyjak (excluding poljak)
- Pepe
- Wojak
- Chadface
- Stacy (etc)
The ban would only apply to content posted after the rule comes into effect. The punishment would be a simple deletion or short ban for repeat/egregious offenders. The rationale for the change is that these memes are incredibly tired and many of them are outright reactionary, and they allow /pol/ to have rent free real estate in all of our heads. They are derivative and dull and they stifle the production of any new material or effort posting and the like. This change is only a proposal at this point so please make your thoughts known (PS: posting these memes in response to this post is expected and will only prove the point so have fun).
>>24869The use of imported soys instead of actually engaging in good faith is part of that tho.
>PornThere should be a focus on providing sources and posting porn with artistic merit instead of just dumping a collection of samey looking stuff some redditor saved off of pornhub to post of 4/gif/.
>Incel shit, depressionThat's from raids I think. I know the r9k stuff is.
>ErpingI haven't seen anything serious in this regard
>avatarfaggingGet your sensitive ass back to normie boards, avatarfagging is imageboard culture.
>>24878Why? It fits into the random off topic content.
>>24879I don't see why leftists can't enjoy porn.
>>24880As for 'incel shit', I think the social threads are nice, obviously some of them devolve into idpol squabbling and probably should be removed but overall I don't really see the issue. Loneliness is a big issue among the terminally-online, go figure.
Also religion isn't explicitly banned by the rules, I see no reason it should be.
>>24862Please allow heavily modded/forked/edited versions.
Memes evolve through edits, often entirely new OC memes are inspired by old but modded memes.
You might inadvertently kill a component of the OC pipeline, otherwise.
>>24881With that said, maybe it would be beneficial to have a general 'sex and relationships' thread that all those threads should get merged into.
>>24882I thought that chad/soy dinosaur thread was pretty funny. But overall I don't know if there is much creativity to be had with such memes. It's still just reproducing the original terrible ideology.
>>24899I think what were trying to do with this proposal is to encourage original content that sets us apart from 4chan /pol/, and avoid fatigue of overly-used memes and stagnation of culture and creativity
if u wanna post a pepe, fine. but dont be generic about it i guess its what were trying to do. make your picrel interesting
>>24913I mean, at least that would be something semi-original, but even so I think most users aren't '10 year old on deviantArt' levels of braindead.
>>24909>it's more intelligent for each member to attach a fresh OC to each post instead of making an OC thread where none of that shit is reposted anywhere.>>24909>it's more intelligent for each member to attach a fresh OC to each post instead of making an OC thread where none of that shit is reposted anywhere.Easy to say, but how do you or I encourage others?
It's not like there isn't already Oekaki along with one of the biggest booru.org boorus and 14 OC threads dedicated to sharing other OC. Even lazy people have options.
>>24882I think originally modded memes are fine, and I agree.
There is a big difference between posting relevant memes or mods of memes, and just replicating /r9k/. It's one thing to adapt or extend, another to merely clone.
Hello, leftypol fellows, form the east and the we st and the rest. I say, let me speak. Most of you have spken and thine self have lissen. So, no, we siberians thy fagootry have abohorren. And with multi faceted derision we have chosen, to quit plowing the fields ur honorhood have placen so exoperantly high only nobility can attainen.
In siberia, we have a name and identiyt like gays and trans, and we have thought that place is quiet good. We were broken and our problems we knowen. We lived and drived under the auspicies of metal instability, existential dread, and general brokedness.
Once in a while, some prick comes in and scorn into us that we /r9k board and schizo blow up on well intentioed threads and turn it into shit that turn awy healthy high quality posters. And our hearts are truly shaken. Your s truly is trully feeling dejection. Dual pain we fell, dual pain. We stupid and we craxy.
No, I say. We did do good threads, but dog needs a beeting only when misbehaving annd well-behaving, your hands are always fainding an excuse? What was? it? yesterday? FApping gave you carpal tunnels?
Now with we inside a petri dish under the microspce like a germ who has no loving mother or protective to save from the prying hands of the tyrants. To thee we ask, wher e do we goo awy? To 4chan or reddit-san? But /sib is our home. WE BUILT IT!!!@!! (AMBERSAND)
And if you are so incumbered by quality in general discourse why not curate content and aid it survive pumb? We call into you siberaiphobia and hated towards thiferetly thinke'd. Ur issue is not talk, it's our beloved board. U hate siberia. After all that's where th e gulals for those who are to die were.
Well, we will rise. We refuse Adam's apple from Eve. We will fight low-key purge and survve this. We will, my fellow siberia sons and ddaughter and brothers, I swear, we will raise up.
Lol @ me getting hit by an "accidental" range ban which just happened to delete the feedback I gave on this days ago and didn't get resolved until like this morning. This is a dumb idea, and I'm not going to re-write my post… but, Sage is basically on the money. I was a bit more polite about it personally, but
>>24916 is right. We don't have the numbers, and we used to meme for fun when we did.
>>24985Hrrrm yeah we can't just rely and cater to the cohort who got accustomed and innured to dealing with anything back when /pol/ was the most visible forum and social media you could actually defend the memory of Stalin on without
immediately being banned our cohorts definitely attriting from the site for whatever life reasons
/leftypol/ isn't our cool kids tree house anymore
Lay off the fun a bit comrades
less normie scaring
>>25022The list of things to ban is very short. I think bestiality is one of them. Just because its 2D does not change what it is. I'm assuming (I hope) we would also ban 2D CP.
People aren't prudes no. Bestiality is not a question of being a prude or not. There is no consent to be got from and animal.
Yes I eat meat, yes I am a hypocrit in this regard, fact remains of the general public 98% are absolutely oppossed to any and all forms of sexualisation of animals, and they are correct, as they are about the sexualisation of children.
Look if you really really want to draw horse porn or whatever, there are dozens, probably hundreds of other sites. It does not NEED to be here. Leftypol is unique in being a leftist political discourse board that doesn't succumb to libtardism (so the theory goes anyway) it NEEDS to exist like that. It is so way far above the prioritise of people who want to watch bestiality animation that it doesn't even register.
>>25094/pol/'s economics department back when /pol/ was cool stormfag and lib unfriendly
Now it's own thing as /pol/ has degenerated post it's greatest achievement of electing Trump president of the Great Satan
>>25102What kind of archived thread
There should be that embassy thread on 8/pol/ shortly after the board split where they were begging me to convince them to come back because /pol/ was less effective without the free flow of arguments between all of us
Do you know of any archives for 8/pol/ dating back to 7 or 8 years or So?
>>25101Stormfag and lib unfriendly son
This is the tankie board here we read books
>>25112how would you tell?
plus, this places is supposed to be anti-sectarian as a feature.
>>25114Well, what's the prominent ideology on /pol/? Classical liberals (or as they like to call themselves, libertarians)? Neo-fash? Vague conservativism? It's hard to say….
M-L and subsets are probably the most common just by numbers, but there are a lot of different other groups. Hell, we even have a few nazi regulars who preferred the discussion here over /fascist/.
>>25115guys you konw. I just hate FUCKING UYGHURS UYGHURS UYGHURS I HATE FUCKING UYGHURS.
are leftists uyghurs?
are transhumanists uyghurs?
is free speech anti lefties?
so who is your owner?
>>25112Various strawpolls have had ML as a plurality or slight majority over the years
These are internet strawpolls on an anonymous image board though
>>25114Officially we are indeed a non-sectarian board
The proprietary feelings MLs have is a hangover from when MLs were outcasts from other "leftist" spaces
fwiw we are currently on a queer people friendly drive to appeal to the youth demographic which may make this current state of the board not your cup of tea unless you as a /pol/itician understand that this board has a higher political purpose ie. Communism and the discussion thereof
>>25121>i only started lurking it specifically after /pol/ harborWhich happenings was that? The term's been used since at least 2014 and I suspect it's been used again since.
>the quality of discourse has gone downhill over the years Absolutely. Even on 8ch days there were nazis posting in good faith there because at least there was an understanding of systematic concepts beyond conspiratoral logic. Some basic discussion.
Even the /pol/ thread that's linking to us is filled with nonsense edgeposting. Sure, haha, it's fun to trigger da libs, but /pol/ is not Politics. It's literally saying dumb edgy stuff (back in 2012) and then getting mixed in with people silly enough to think it was unironic, then trying to rationalize it. So anyone seeking actual political discussion won't like the place.
>>25129 (me)
shitty example, but stuff like this was common even in 2016, let alone post-NLP and post-2020.
THIS ELECTION YEAR IS GONNA SUCK FOR EVERY BOARD ON 4CHAN. At least here the low-quality garbage looks out of place, places like /pol/ and /v/ have no chance.
>>24862As much as I disagree with the wojack/pepe ban, I think if we're going to move forward with this ban at the very least we should have a trade for it.
For banning wojak and pepe, you should ban as well:
anti-porn posters,
anti-lgbt posters,
and virtue signalers.
And you can't even counter me on this take. Look at these posts:
>>24869>>24870>>24880>>24873>>24879>>24878Nothing of value.
It would take a million years of their posting to offer the level of value one frog post.
They just want to ban everything to make the site a static mush of thought to reflect the puddle in their head that was once a brain – a puddle that has gone stagnate for so long that it has become a hot spot for the most filthy maggots.
>>25137>"based"Existed long before /pol/.
>seethe" and "cope"Meaningless anti-brain cliches. I agree with your proposal.
>>25133>alrighty time to ban moarNah
Time to undo these gay meme-bans.
Nazi here. This isn't my board, but I can't sit by and just watch you do this without saying something. What exactly does this achieve? I get it, Nazis live rent-free in communist heads, and communism lives rent-free in Conservitard heads. It's irritating, it's pointless, but I don't see how this achieves anything. I like the protectionist angle, I like the almost state-like desire to act upon an issue, but I still don't see the fixing, improving or solving an issue you people have. Even this policy shows you have an obsession with /pol/. The site is called /leftypol/. It exists because we live rent-free in your head.
The problem fundamentally, is that your worldview is dying. Revleft is gone, this board split apart, you're all blackpilled. You're understimulated intellectuals, and there's less of you. Creativity isn't something you generally have as a bookworm. This policy just seems desperate and would just lead to people posting less images. Maybe it will work, I hope it does for you, but it just seeems desperate.
I can't believe this is Marxism in the 21st century.: "We need to ban memes for being too fash"
The rail workers just got fucked, the 'socialist' controlled opposition democrats voted on fucking them and preventing them from striking, we're all living in shit, our wages are worse than ever, all our labor is spent on some shitty war, the rest is given to wall street, we're sending tanks to prolong a bloodbath, and what is left of Marxism is debating on whether to ban some stale fucking memes.
Please get your shit together.
>>25141>What exactly does this achieve?You know how American boring generic industrialized-culture made your country's own arts and media worse?
Same shit, basically. And it's not even a /pol/ meme, so idk where that shit's coming from.
>This isn't my board, but I can't sit by and just watch you do this without saying something.>I can't believe this is Marxism in the 21st centurylol get a life you loser. it's the internet.
seriously, is this meant to be owning da gommies? showing that we live rent-free in your head by coming here and writing a gay little mini-essay? im screencapping this, shit's more hilarious than any soyjak or pepe comic,
>>25145>And it's not even a /pol/ meme, so idk where that shit's coming from.The literal OP of this thread?
>>25146Same difference, retard.
>>25143Yeah, and I don't think it will change anything. Creativity on issues that matter? None, but watch them make 52 images of pixelated perfection regarding images of their favorite catgirl getting fucked. It's incels. Sex-starved incels that haven't seen or smelt grass in months.
>>25145>lol get a life you loser. it's the internet.It's politics. It's last vestiges of revolt against an immoral system crippling and crushing everything around us. I tend to think issues that matter are more important than whether memes are stale or not.
>seriously, is this meant to be owning da gommies? I'm well past the point of seeing Marxism as a threat. It's just a boogeyman, a dead politic, and this thread is proof. It's frankly depressing, because it means that Market Liberal Capitalism has even less opposition.
>showing that we live rent-free in your headAs usual, the spiteful nature of the freak reveals itself. It's the same on /pol/. So many spiteful snarky people without power visciously attacking others to feel the power they lack.
>im screencapping thisThat's all this is to you. Some overly dramatic squabble and gotcha moment.
Nothing is more blackpilling that interacting with the average spiteful midwit regardless of their politic. It's the same words, the same malice, the same tribalistic jingoistic red team vs blue team bullshit.
It's not my board, it's not my politic, but it's also not in our interests to watch it rot either. I'm a Nazi, I'm a Socialist, and I'd rather there be more of us collectively, than less.
>>25150"Policy should be based entirely on whether my make-believe opposition agrees with it"
If I didn't fly a swastika, your opinion would be entirely different. You have no independent position based upon any worldview. You are the reactionary you claim to oppose.
>>25152Making 👻 >the other team 👻 mad doesn't matter. It's merely the only function you're providing.
You wrote 500 words and it's all the same unproductive drivel you claim to be above. Baseless claims that contradict evidence on issues you have no experience with. Petty insults. Taking the internet too seriously. You provided us nothing but laughter.
>>25156No, I'd react the same if you said you were an M-L or ancom. Your post makes it obvious you have no idea what this place is.
The fact that you think this rule has anything to do with /pol/, or even that you imply this place split from /pol/, is enough for me to recognize you as being totally unfamiliar with us, our history and our situation.
>>25158>maybe if we ban these shit memes then better things will magically appearMeanwhile, all that creativity is on Siberia making porn about catgirls.
The problem isn't the old memes. The problem is your board is filled with incels and spiteful mutants like you. I'm not saying /ol/ is any better either.
>Taking the internet too seriously. Says the person whose politic is discussing banning mems. Fuck me, the projection is too much.
Yes, I take politics seriously. I know 90% of you don't, which is why we live in shit.
>>25161>maybe if we ban these shit memes then better things will magically appearwell they did rapidly appear (this rule has been in place for weeks now) and it probably wasnt magic
stopped reading
>>25166LEMME AT 'EM!
LEMME AT 'EM!
>>25185That was due to overproduction it was getting to the point of a flood
We have the opposite problem now
>>25191Hehe yeah
Except when it kicks into gear
Then it gets fun
>>25193if i answered that question i'd get gulaged
oh no no no no
>>25202>rebuild the neonazi->nazbol->bol pipelineoh no
no no no
youll doom us all
>>25199They're all fucking Zionists that's the
point and what makes it so funny
>>25152except i would not care about a nazi trying to concern troll their way into being taken seriously
>>25154are you mad you cant handle smug banter
kill yourself honestly
>>25217They weren't even fascist, they were just boring cancers that stiffed growth.
You know, now that the dust has settled and /b/ is no longer a top 5 board on 4chan, I feel we're in a good position to truly uncover what the cancer that killed /b/ was. And if you said rage comics, well you're closer than damn mudkips and ponies.
>>25220it was made by a troll back when we were still on 8chan
the mods banned him for being annoying and he never came back lmao
>>25221>the mods just delete random postszomg!1
So nothing changed from day 1. Do they at least memeban and make it fun or is it just deleting shit they don't like?
>>25224lol no-one thinks that. if anything, it's 'i have no gf'.
>>25263That clearly wasn't my point you fucking asshole. If I have a choice between banning something or not banning something, if it isn't illegal or actively disruptive then I choose the latter.
Honestly, I don't see why the moderation on this site doesn't simply go ahead and ban whatever they dislike without any further process or discussion involved. It would be much more honest.
>>25264would it blow your mind to learn thats exactly how this place works?
it is literally ran by people who will ban you if they post stuff you dont like, it is there website
>>25265>would it blow your mind to learn thats exactly how this place works?Except theres a veneer of transparency and process and principles all created to legitimize it. It's dishonest as fuck, what about this do you not understand?
>>25267>i think it is disruptive having stupid pepes and wojaks everywhere, it lowers the discourseNo, it does not. The discourse will stay low no matter which funny reddit images are or aren't allowed.
>makes this place more like 4chanIt's a fucking imageboard, what did you expect?>look at 4chan or look at places that have 100% no moderation.<100% no moderationThis is a fucking fantasy.
Moreover, making a connection between a supposed lack of moderation to the reason why 4chan has shit culture is bullshit.
4chan has shit culture because of its history and its purpose. The same can be said about leftypol.
All that moderation does is either stop disruption or stifle discussion, nothing more.
>>25270I think the rules are whatever the fuck the moderators abritrarily want at any point in time.
But the moderators would probably say that these are the rules:
https://leftypol.org/rules.htmlhttps://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/742065.htmlThey also used to make threads where they pretended to discuss the rules, thankfully that useless formality was abolished, until recently with this thread.
>>25280You're kidding right? Soyjaks are literally one of the most ultra reactionary meme's in existence.
It's not impossible that a single soyjak meme could prevent an entire communist revolution in some country somewhere, if it received enough attention.
>>25286>anyone can do itBut are you doing it tho
I don't know who you think I am but seems you are mad
Good stay mad
>>25286Stimulus: The suggestion to read theory, because the post they responded to was being social media brained and it's author could use a theoretical basis to build off of.
Response: Chastising them for suggesting such a thing. Belittling the efforts of those who have done it, despite lack of implication that it's meant to be some impressive feat. Projection over methods of avoiding accomplishing said feat.
>>25293That can be solved with more grace art tho. Grace poster does lean toward commissioning mostly reaction images because they're commissioning them and feel like they need images with utility. I think if they weren't the main anon in charge of grace image making they'd use / commission a wider pallet and not just post reaction images. We could also perhaps encourage them to make a Neocities because I think that would be fun and bring traffic here from people curious about Alunya.
Also avatarfrens are normal on non-4chan Imageboards, you could just hide the royal colony thread, and Grace and Alunya are important for each other's enrichment and habitat.
>>25295lol the free screech crowd has no solidarity with anyone
I wrote somewhere reactionaries work against their own interest constantly and inadvertently.
And all the time I am reminded how correct I am
>>25498They seem to be enforcing a frog ban inconsistently. This post (me) had the image removed with the stated reason of "frogposting":
https://leftypol.org/siberia/res/391347.html#q391704Yet there are three other frogs in that thread uncensored (one of which I also posted). I don't know why, I see no significant difference in terms of originality (neither frog I posted was OP). I was surprised that they took the time to remove the frog but not the time to direct me to this thread or some other resource indicating the ban was real, not sure what those priorities indicate. I thought the whole concept of banning frogs was probably just somebody making up drama until the mods actually removed a frog (but only one for some reason that I still don't understand). I would've imagined that a change like this would be reflected in the rules page or at least a sticky thread in meta. I don't even care about frogs, but a rule change like this seems like it belongs on the rule page. I'm still confused about what contexts the frog is banned in, because as far as I know nobody has said. I'm not running the place though, I just post here sometimes.
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