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iOS and non-JS users should now be able to upload multiple images using the basic upload button.
Long overdue but it's here now.

(from dev team)


>* No New Threads for Topics with an existing General thread (e.g. USA politics, COVID-19, online personalities, etc.)
I hope this rule only applies to /leftypol/ and /edu/.


Of course.


Thank you!


Use this before copyposting a big wall of text (especially if it's from a pdf)


>ANOTHER shitty useless "constitution"

maybe if you wasted less time larping with this constitutional convention shit this discussion forum wouldn't be such a fucking hole


ok janny


what's the point of saging a sticky??


when is leftypol getting an I2P link


Good manners. And tickies get bumped on the overboard.


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>a new constitution
>for a website


It took me like an hour to update it, chill, if you have suggestions then here's your forum


yeah get rid of the anti-"idpol" rule. it's cringe and enables concern trolls


Anti-IDpol is more important today than in the early days of this community.


>We believe that conflicts between genders, races, sexualities, and so on are distractions from the wider class struggle that are intentionally fanned by the ruling class.
maybe but they're definitely not sponsoring anti-oppression politics in any meaningful way, despite what /pol/ infographic-tier clickbait "sources" say
>This does not mean that oppression based on personal characteristics does not exist, but that it should be approached from an egalitarian perspective which is not personally accusatory and does not assign ‘victim’ and ‘oppressor’ groups.
race isn't based on personal characteristics, tons of white-skinned people used to be classified as un-white and still are to this day. race is a social phenomenon
>The rights of individuals to live according to their own wishes is a fundamental part of leftism.
don't even know what this means, is it a freeze peach type thing?


also there are a thousand more effective ways to distract from concrete class struggle for the booj than "idpol"


no! Enforce the anti-idpol rule.
I mean look at this shit >>743146 >>743075 >>743052 >>743251 >>743291


Hadn't thought of it in the past year. It feels like it would have approximately one user, so it hasn't been high up on the oversized TODO list, despite being a good move. Plus, we don't have any experience setting up eepsites so it would take some time to ensure it's secure (a quick read suggested we should use our main web server software rather than Caddy, thoughts?)
If there's interest from multiple users, it might get bumped up the priority list.
In fact, I should make a physical, public priority list to see what changes are actually wanted by users.


>The rights of individuals to live according to their own wishes is a fundamental part of leftism.
This sentence is so liberal and so fucking retarded that it is nearly impossible to unpack.
lib shit
lib shit
>own wishes
lib shit
>fundamental part of leftism
>fundamental part
>of leftism
I wasn't aware "leftism" was a theory current that has fundamental parts to it. You retard mods think that cleaning shit off of an imageboard is the same as reading theory. It is obvious whoever wrote that shit is an idiot who doesn't understand the fundamental of Marxism. There are no Robinson Crusoe "individuals", people are socially determined, you literally wouldn't be you without society. Rights don't exist, read Marx. There is no such thing as free will, there are no "own" wishes. "Leftism" is an ambiguous term that includes liberals half the time it is used, how can anything be a "fundamental part of it", especially the fucking lib shit.

F, see me after class janny


nice trips
What if I told you we put that in there as a joke?
Personally I think the sentence didn't exactly turn out well, however this is not a marxist board.


Look if you think of a better way to phrase it then by all means do so, but I wanted to make clear that we don't tolerate gaybashing et cetera.


Might I add that we had a more marxist version of this but it was decided that it would be harder to understand for people not as versed in class politics and theory, and in this specific case clarity was more important.


As a public document it's best to write it for the lowest common denominator to clearly articulate the rules.


So I'm a moron?


not necessarily, but for any potential morons in the audience its good to put it in very simple and common terminology. mind this is meant as much for randoms stumbling across the board and wanting to know the rules as much as /leftypol/ regulars.




We should have a “mandate of Heaven” feature where if 80% of the users want the current mods out, they will be removed.


That's all well and good until you realize how few people volunteer for the job.


Also that would be impossible to verify since this is an anonymous board.


You verify through IP


people cycle IPs regularly, plus everyone using the TOR node counts as 1 IP. Its unworkable, its why all forms of user democracy without some kind of account verification are impossible.


also, 80% of what users? the total IP count of the site, which is likely deflated cause the TOR node? the hourly IPs, which fluctuates wildly? its completely unworkable.


Who will tackle CP spam then? Who will tackle gore then?


the idpol rule should apply to nationalism


It applies to extreme nationalism. However, maybe that could be expanded in scope.




hey I know what….. happened ;w;. and I want to say I'm sorry. I just went into a paranoid frenzy because I know enough about computers to know what they could potentially trace back to me, control, put on and manipulate, and I mind just went racing in all these different directions and I didn't know what to do. Needless to say I am not careful and I knew that. and I didn't know what would happen, and I guess you now know why that is based on what I saw. I'm sure you meant that whole shubang to be come enlightening experience but all it really did was scare me. I know it wasn't your fault but guess…. you gotta look at material reality lol.

Thanks for the hug either way.


Um, are you okay anon?


ukrop wildin out


why does everyone have a name now?


Donald Trump test


hehe you cannot choose a name


Check the date, ladies.


maybe this change should remain so the namefags are permanently neutralized



I want to see what the GET was


Oops nvm


Wait hol up…
Sorry for samefagging, but why did no one even reply to or notice the GET?


Because no-one cares and this is the wrong thread.

This proposal may be of interest: >>>/meta/17253


>Because no-one cares and this is the wrong thread.
S-sorry, which thread would be the correct one to post in?


idk maybe somewhere in >>>/siberia/



I understand that I am ban-evading, but it is for a reason. Moderation team has completely failed to provide any sort of response on their decision to make Ukraine general a complete and total echo-chamber that is all-but r/anarchism just pro-Russia.

>>>/meta/15632 Which is supposed to be a place for feedback regarding bans has been silent for about a month when it comes to any official responses bearing ##mod stickers, despite many complaints over low-effort description bans over being anti-Russia, all labeled as "glow" or "nazi" or "pol" or "nato shill".

I am posting this here in hopes that just maybe mods will finally give any sort of answer instead, and also hoping that maybe some anons who aren't /meta/ watching autists will also see this. If jannies want to ban me for this, so be it, go ahead. You'll only be banning a terminally online loonatic that is no different from yours truly.


This might surprise you but your childish tantrums do not entitle you to a response from the jannies, especially considering how vigilant they currently have to be to stop the influx of shills. And even if they did have the time to respond to you, you don’t deserve any acknowledgment. All that would do is validate your Russophobic hysteria, and we get more than enough of that from American propaganda. Get range banned, and for what it’s worth I hope you live just long enough to see Russia steamroll your Nazi enclave that you call a nation and be brought back into the fold as an SSR.


not real
>I hope you live just long enough to see Russia steamroll your Nazi enclave that you call a nation and be brought back into the fold as an SSR
weird fanfiction


So why exactly is >>877698 bumplocked but >>875384 is not?


because the link between fascism and homosexuality has been debunked many times


They're both bumplocked now, it seems.



GET and we all become girls


God has denied the homosexuals


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>my post is literally God




What was it?


1M GET coming up



what was the get??


'Ukraine unblock me on twitter' meme and a declaration that kulaks would be destroyed



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Tbf it was getZ, the duality of /leftypol/ and wot nhat…


Where's the thread on #masonleaks and why can't I find anything about it apart from a few posts in a UK thread?

Amazing insights into the UK state information apparatus.




try now fag


t… tha… thanks owo👉👈



Moderation of this site is absolutely shit. Gotta laugh at how you allow users to openly use antisemitic slander. Joke of a site.


b-b-b-but thats how they do it on t3h "chans"!


ok and


And if you don't clean up filth you'll attract filth.


indeed. fuck the mods, they're poltards


>vaguebooking instead of using the report function



Hello where is the proofs?
Cite me one instance of someone posting "kill da jews" without that poster being a /pol/ brigader who gets banned an hour later.


lol alright then I'll do that, see if you do anything.
It's a lot more than that. You can get away with calling the Jews responsible for communism.


>You can get away with calling the Jews responsible for communism.
Considering that /leftypol/ from its inception on 8chan was literally fighting that bullshit from day fucking one it's clear that you're mistaking false flags as actual legitimate posts.


The /leftypol/ thread "Why is /pol/and so fucking right-wing?" Is overrun by /pol/yp raiders and constantly derailed. Mods don't react to reports. Could you please look into it and clean up?


Here is someone calling a Poolish a Jew based on how she looks. Also Russophobia and anti-Semitism

And this one spreads the Jewish bankers myth.

Both posts are older than an hour and still there. I also reported them already. And it's just the tip of the Iceberg.


Hello? Anybody home??? Mods?


Got a lot of false flags then.


yes, they have historically been a significant number of posts here


Is the UKR thread gone?


>You can get away with calling the Jews responsible for communism.
You get triggered for something… not so bad?
I mean, Jews were hated because they made themselves richer for giving a shit about interests on loans. The New Testament forbid that, and that's one of the reasons Jews are hated, but that doesn't mean they are evil per se, nor that the Semitic origins of Marx, Trotsky, etc. are evil and make it a bad thing for communism. Precisely because Marxism cultivates the idea of a fairer world, so kudos for Jews having this breakthrough in a shifting philosophical view, I guess?
Filth comes when you make the Jews the center of all evil. I do not see the conception of communism as something evil, but as the superior philosophical and final productive form the human society can evolve.


>shitting up the sticky


Welcome thread?

Not feeling very welcome after my brie brie effortpost was nuked. Where is it?


just sounded like a run of the mill schizopost
what even are you talking about?


Sir, this is a Wendy's.


>what even are you talking about?

What part of this post exactly were you unable to understand?

"they really hate my darling brie.

So from day one, year zero, the 2016 bernie campaign, the level of pure liberal rage against brie has been surprising and remarkable. The bitter rage expressed about her by black and white liberals has far outweighed anything expressed about her on the right.

Reddit has a constant, hardcore cohort that will reliably comment negatively on every episode of the pod. Sure, the Virgil catfishing and subsequent collapse didn't help, but the pattern of constant comments is remarkable.

I had put it down to khive or ctr types, probably well funded, picking on an obvious scapegoat to improve their ladies' chances.

Then, in the space of a couple of weeks, masongate gets exposed and brie has grayzone-associated journalists on her pod to explain the reporting.

Then ben norton appears on the pod.

Now I hear that Bad Faith has a parody pod, whose reach will no doubt be heavily amplified.

If you were brie, considering the history of state action against black left figures and the masongate revelations of open season on anything grayzone related, what message would you take from the timing of the appearance of this parody pod?"


all of it
this place is to talk about politics not cheese
if you want to talk about cheese, you have to connect it to politics


Why can't I stop laughing
have I truly been defeated by the internet


Proposal to change that wording "I accept your admission" into "I accept suck dicks". A recurrent troll would get some.


rent free


So what rule did I break arguing with nazoids in ukraine general?
is this a red-brown board now? then write a rule that you're not allowed to criticize based anti-imperialist russia


By melting down and just namecalling for one
libs have to be better behaved here same as nazis



you're just butthurt that I disrupted your red-brown circlejerk

post proofs that I hold a liberal position


>By melting down and just namecalling for one
and butthurt red-browns weren't namecalling lol?
you namecalled me a "lib" in the same post lmao


There are still posts of yours in the thread.
Basically it always makes me wonder how hard can it be to act like a normal person
That is a fact


also, if you're a mod, please use a mod tag
what is the position of mode team on this situation? what rules did I break?


I told you in so many words but

7) Reactionism and liberalism, or any other kind of non-leftist positions are not banned in itself, as we will endeavour to allow and encourage people of other political philosophies to explore leftism through /leftypol/ so long as they follow the rules contained herein. However, non-leftist users are ultimately to be considered ‘guests’ and thus will be removed if they prove a nuisance or disrupt the normal functioning of the site. Low-effort raiders will be banned.Opening posts with liberalism or reactionary topics will be treated with far more scrutiny to prevent them filling the catalog.


>There are still posts of yours in the thread.
you deleted multiple of my posts without reasons

>Basically it always makes me wonder how hard can it be to act like a normal person

how hard it is not to call someone a "lib"?

>That is a fact

no, it's your opinion
post proofs where I espouse liberal position


>Reactionism and liberalism
so being against capitalist world war is liberalism and reactionism? this is some OldBO levels of retardation

>any other kind of non-leftist positions

how are my positions non-leftist? is supporting world war a leftist position?

I am more leftist than any of you lol


you are doing great champ


epic answer jannie
enjoy your circlejerk shithole


There is so many places where you can enjoy your milquetoast position (and nothing else)
so this accusation in particular is just very silly
basically the wrong way round


lmao lol


I deserve to be banned as a "vax schizo" (sic!) after I myself called vaccine sceptics schizos in the same post??!!! I was merely against mandates for (bio)political reasons. Jesus Christ,

You fucking liberal cucks.


>(bio)political reasons





Why exactly is ThingNoticer still allowed to post here? Is he just ban evading?


the second


He is using TOR.




See you tomorrow


oh wait you're still spamming nvm


Israel should be burned from the maps.


remember the map is not the territory


I make an innoculous post about a podcaster in /isg/, in a discussion about that podcaster, and my post is deleted 2 days later.

Very weird, so wtf?


they're called cyclical threads, posts naturally disappear after some time


some weird fucker is trying to troll the board with spam posts of black dicks while advocating for killing white people


Well that's what the report button is for.


can we ban people for replying to thingnoticer posts?


we can and we do sometimes


/pol/ spammer shitting the board up, again.


Well yeah they do that



mods can you remove the drama from the podcast rec thread?

A perfect functional thread devolved into suspicious shilling (even the most devoted cultist isn't going to shill their pod 3 times in the same thread) and shitfighting.




Is there an official fbi.gov?




more like crapitalism amirite haha


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Why there were no workers' councils aka soviets in estern bloc people's republics?


Because Stalin betrayed the revolution. There was one socialist republic that had worker's councils in every industry and workplace. One that did not betray the revolution but took the correct path in a world dominated by American-style capitalism and Soviet-style state capitalism. Yugoslavia also created the Non-Aligned Movement which was JUNGLE GANG before there even was a jungle gang. A real trailblazing country, hated by the two power blocks because they ain't us.


*dies to IMF structural adjustment followed by ethnic infighting and then NATO intervention to finish off whatever government structures were left*


>CIA destroyed this country
>CIA destroyed that country
>US meddling destroyed the Soviet Union
>US/CIA/NATO do not let socialist countries survive or thrive
>Yugoslavia fell apart on its own
fuck you, Stalinist. we're gonna reopen Goli Otok


Yugoslavia's entire structure was based purely on being funded by the West to act as controlled opposition against the Soviets and once the Soviets were destroyed the funding dried up and the IMF called it in. Anyone praising Yugoslavia is brain dead. Tito was a great partisan sure and Stalin should have compromised more to ensure Tito didn't get triggered so hard but all other blame can be laid squarely on the Yugoslavians themselves.


>Yugoslavia's entire structure was based purely on being funded by the West
Literally the same argument Croatian nationalists and Ustashe use to say that Yugoslavia was supposed to be destroyed and subsequently replaced by neoliberal states.
>to act as controlled opposition against the Soviets
Soviet Union took loans from the West too, they were Western puppets all along!
>and once the Soviets were destroyed the funding dried up and the IMF called it in.
>funding dried up
In 1991, Yugoslavia's debt was less than 15% of its GDP. The states that replaced it have debts five times as large, each, totaling 70-80% of their GDP. You're right, Stalinist, free market economies based on tourism, selling off of state assets and industry, and import of everything beat regulated/planned economies manufacturing goods, developing industry and export! Thanks for that insight.
>Anyone praising Yugoslavia is brain dead.
Anyone hating Yugoslavia is a nationalist and/or fascist.
>all other blame can be laid squarely on the Yugoslavians themselves.
<Communism is about suffering, and not listening to corrupting rock music, not leaving the country and living in soulless commie blocks. Any people who desire anything but barrack communism deserve to be destroyed!

Seethe and cope, Stalincuck. You're just jealous a socialist state existed that wasn't Marxist-Leninist and didn't suck Soviet cock but blazed their own path. If you admit they were successful, then your claim that M-L is the only way falls apart.


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>Soviet loans
Pretty much nonexistent until Gorbachev. The USSR never once failed to repay whatever loans they did take out until Gorbachev deliberately took on all the loans he could in order to destroy the economy (sound familiar?)
>Yugoslavia stronk!
Is that why it consistently had an unemployment rate worse than other capitalist and socialist states of that same era? It doesn't take a genius to see high unemployment + huge trade deficit + huge foreign debt that can't be repaid = unsustainable economic model.


>high unemployment
It was below 8% all throughout the 60s and 70s. Bourgeois economists count people working abroad as "unemployed". Yet Croatia has 25% of it's population working abroad, but no one says their unemployment is over 30%.
>huge trade deficit
$3 Billion in 1989 is hardly "huge". What's the trade deficit of ex-Yugoslav countries?
>huge foreign debt
As I said before, it was less than 15% of GDP at its peak in 1991, hovering at ~5-10% for rest of the time. Why aren't ex-Yugoslav countries collapsing from debt when it's 80% of their GDP?
>unsustainable economic model
You're right, tankie, neoliberalism is so much better.

Soviet Union also collapsed, Marxism-Leninism is an unsustainable model and failed project.




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the people's socialist unemployment vs the people's socialist commodities


>implying yugoslavia didn't have commodities




t. leftcom mad that he called out for not even being ideologically consistent


Yo, there's a /pol/ spammer making spam threads. (Yes, I've already reported it.)


Yo mods, do your damn jobs for once.


dunno who undid that rangeban, but its taken care of


I also suggest banning Zionist trolling on sight.




Some sad fucker is spamming the board with his depressingly large collection of soyjak memes


It's the Tohou schizo, he's back.


He's ban evading, currently.


Touhou schizo is back again.


Who are you talking to?

You there's a report feature, right?


You should try the congress if needed


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Zizek needs to get into tracksuits asap. Just someone gift him one


dude's 80. it's a bit late to be getting into anything


>dude's 80
he's 73


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Mao definitely would be proud.



where is """the""" /leftypol/ these days? is this the place? I have not been keeping up with you guys for a few years, and bunkerchan redirects me here.



Thong Noticer is back at it yet again.


What are you gonna do, write this comment every day for five years?
Protip: report button gets a faster response


The The Thing Noticer Noticer


Suppose that makes you the the the thing noticer noticer noticer


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Video of German representative calling Nord stream terrorism gets me filtered as a bot even as .mp4 upload


>>1386980 (me)


This vid in the German thread


try changing the file name


Koba, why do you need me to die?


If I post that at people on Twitter, it gets hidden.


pls accept that gigachad by the name of mommasboy

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