>>32786>apparently queer folk existing isn't political enough to be on the main board This has to be fucking bait. The fucking GALL to say that merely existing is political and to take away people's agency to live their lives by demanding they be partisan to identity politics.
>the fact there are several country exclusive main boards there >an obscure thread in this board's /b/ equivalent <This site? A board. The boards? Boards. The general threads? Boards. Yeah you're definitely a tourist from reddit or fbi.gov
Also
>Imagine comparing Geo-politics encompassing socio-economics to identity politics. You're that retard from last-week that kept getting caught by the word-filters, aren't you? Did your ban expire or did you hop onto a different VPN IP?
>how the right-wing infested board gives us better representation a space to be among our own <wHy ArEn'T tHe MoDz SeGrEgAtInG pEoPlE!? Yeah this is
totes a good faith OP and not liberal-bait!
See
>>32805
its inevitably going to end up as an imitation of 4chins /lgbt/, NO THANKS
>>32822What do you mean? Don't you wanna see mtfs talk about how much they hate themselves to a bunch of other low self-esteem mtfs and use outdated sexology literature that paints trans people as potential predators/gay men
>>32786 (you asked this in the moderation thread before, the comment about "country exclusive boards" makes me suspect you posted this on a different site too.)
lgbt topics can be posted on the main boards. the current lgbt general thread is not obscure, it's one of the more-live general threads on the site.
a dead board that /lgbt/ topics are moved to (like how living homestuck threads get redirected to he dead-dead-dead /hobby/ ) would be a disaster. that would be the real equivelant of locking lgbt topics away in an obscure corner that nobody cares about.
you don't want a dedicated board for a topic unless you're sure that it'll draw in more people.
how would a /lgbt/ board be better? at least /siberia/ users will see the thread currently. sure it would make more sense to have a thread on the main board, but that would also make it the go-to spam target for inter/pol/ers.
As a gay person, NO /LGBT/ board.
The /LGBT/ thread is a hangout thread. Yeah, I push queer Marxist theory there from time to time, but there's not enough volume to merit a board. You will kill the little momentum it has.
Bring more queer leftists and then maybe I'll reconsider my opinion.
Also, you can post queer Marxist theory on /leftypol/.
AND ALL QUEERPHOBIA IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED AND PROMPTLY BANNED
don't AstroTurf / crack consensus, wrecker behavior.
>>32829You're absolutely correct but
>living homestuck threads get redirected to he dead-dead-dead /hobby/ LOL no Homestuck thread is living. They get sent to /hobby/ after people stop properly responding, and peope do use /hobby/, it's just not as fast as the main boards.
>>32831Explain "queer marxist theory" to me sexuality lacks a nature of class and you can basically find lgbt types of all political views in some corner of the world, it seems more a topic of psychology and biology.
>>32835I can't be bothered to explain it right now, so I'll do a half assed job. Hopefully somebody picks up the slack.
I'll rephrase your question, not to mock you but to encourage you to think differently.
>to me sexuality lacks a nature of class and you can basically find women of all political views in some corner of the world, it seems more a topic of psychology and biology.Does that mean that classed oppression of women doesn't exist? Or that because rich women exist then misogyny/patriarchy is no longer a relevant social issue? Just like Obama doesn't cure anti black racism, neither does Hillary cure the patriarchical social norms.
While the biology and psychology of women play a large role in the challenges they face (notice how I'm declassing women here on purpose), these challenges exist in relation to the broader society, including in how women relate to the process of production.
Women are frequently cast aside, not taken seriously, rejected in the workplace. Further, because of (cis) women's unique lifestyle choice of bearing children or not, they are also put in a myriad of positions that are detrimental to their social standing, like being treated as delicate, or not considered for leadership positions due to potentially missing work. Further, biological features inherent in many women makes them vulnerable to physical abuse.
Without getting too much into it as another author in the queer Marxist literature already wrote a good book about it (the origin of family etc by Xirself, Engels), patriarchical society was borne from the class relations in which our current society exists, and as such, many of those relations either remain de jure, or at the level of society's ideology.
Queer Marxist theory investigates the presupposed ways in which gender norms, family values, etc are reproduced in society, and gives us an analytic framework with which to pry away at bourgeoise notions of gender norms, including sexual orientation, gendered bodies and gendered medical views, transness vs cisness, and how these aspects of our social existence are intricately related to racism, colonialism, capitalism, the imposition of capitalism around the world, and our historically contingent understanding of sexuality.
You misunderstand Marxism when you merely apply it to class. Marxism isn't about classes. Marxism is about holistic analysis of processes of classed society. By studying things in a vacuum, instead of in relation to the things by which it is mediated by, you remove one of the most powerful aspects of Marxist analysis and you fall back into a liberal mode of analysis.
The liberation of queernes itself is none other than the liberation of humanity of the shackles of class society. At the nucleus of queerphobia lies the imposition of gender norms, and with that as well lies the imposition of class society. Essentially, queer Marxist then, is the next step in understanding the deep rooted mechanism of domination of class society.
>>32837 NTA but
>Women are frequently cast aside, not taken seriously, rejected in the workplace. When? Where? Under what circumstances? In the USA this hasn't been relevant since the mid-80s, workplace discriminations based on sex is illegal, especially now. This lack of 'patriarchy' is even more visible in Europe.
>Just like Obama doesn't cure anti black racism, neither does Hillary cure the patriarchical social norms. <le dems! You're starting to trip the glowie alarms m8.
>classed oppression of women doesn't exist? Note the importance of the term "CLASSED" its oppression of women as a part of the greater working class. While issues that are particular to women exist, the material origin of these issues are a result of class oppression. Do you genuinely think Hillary Clinton has ANY issues because she's a woman? Or Psaki? Or any other upper-class woman? It's entirely a proletarian problem. And as we saw with the USSR, these issues were resolved by the socialist revolution and the elimination of material issues.
Also to associate Women's issues as being a Queer issue is liberalism; only liberal ideology lumps ethnicity/race, sex and sexuality all together when they are entirely separate aspects of identity.
>Marxism is about holistic analysis of processes of classed society. By studying things in a vacuum, instead of in relation to the things by which it is mediated by, you remove one of the most powerful aspects of Marxist analysis and you fall back into a liberal mode of analysis. Absolutely incorrect. Notably because not ONCE do you mention a core part of Marxism's "holistic" approach - Dialectical Materialism.
Identity politics essentializes identity without regards to the material relations underpinning it. At best, it assimilates identities within the realm of discourse and media (not economic autonomy and security!); at worst it incites intra-class conflicts. As socialists, we fight for the free determination of all individuals and their full emancipation from oppressive power structures. The rights of individuals to liberty is inherent to this.
It is for this reason that identity struggles can only be considered as a particular manifestation of class struggle and only in context of a proletarian member of said identity. This is because identity politics as such are the neoliberal recuperation of particular class struggles at the expense of the whole class struggle, and hence counter-revolutionary. Being against identity politics does not mean that oppression based on personal characteristics does not exist, but rather that fighting for the emancipation of individual identities without a class character ultimately amounts to fighting for token individual emancipation whilst excluding others, rather than emancipating the group as a whole.
Instead, we advocate for the political organization of communities on the grounds of class analysis, class solidarity, to achieve political gains and protection now, with the ultimate goal of full emancipation of all the working class. Intersectionality, in the meantime is a liberal theory about systems of oppressions and how they overlap. For example, it's different being gay and black, than those things separately, which gets misconstrued as meaning solidarity between gays and blacks, when they're 2 separate aspects of identity.
Most idpol discourse is basically nationalism but replace nation with the identity group. That's why the intersectional thing works so well to divide people. You get people thinking in terms of "only people like me" and then feed them as many differences as you can so they will cordon themselves off as much as possible.
TL;DR: Creating an /LGBT/ board is identity politics and directly contradicts socialism; the history of all hitherto existing society is the history of CLASS struggle
See the following
>I am a woman and a human: a Marxist feminist critique of intersectionality theory - Eve Mitchell https://libcom.org/library/i-am-woman-human-marxist-feminist-critique-intersectionality-theory-eve-mitchell >It's A Class Struggle Goddammit! - Fred Hampton >Intersectionality: A Marxist Critique by Barbara Foley https://multiracialunity.org/2018/09/26/intersectionality-a-marxist-critique/ >Privilege politics is reformism http://libcom.org/library/privilege-politics-reformism PS
>Xirself, EngelsBait used to be believable.
I don't want an /lgbt/ board. have you ever seen how shitty 4chan's /lgbt/ board is? that shit needs to be contained to its own thread
t. gay tran-knee faggot
>>32845slur reclaiming is
valid
>>32846>Anarchist-Marxist-Leninist-Maoistwhy the fuck did my name get set to this lmao
MODS
>>32845Self-loathing transgender people who can't get past their institutionalized hatred are like that.
Already discussed:
>>31347I will also reiterate that the /lgbt/ general had no interest in this when asked.
This is starting to stink of being an astroturf. For fuck's sake don't let our dogshit moderation fall for it.
>>32845>>32855>le self-hatequeers have called themselves faggots for decades so trans people calling themselves tr*nnies shouldnt be surprising
>>32845>>32855>wahhh you can't reclaim the T word"Tr-nny" is on its own a harmless and even cute word. It gets its power from being abused by bigots. The power can be taken away by reclaiming and embracing it, like with most slurs.
>>32871>>32868These are correct. Uncritical support.
>>32871>wahhh you can't reclaim the T wordI said no such thing, I was just kinda shocked they used it about themselves. The term actually was a term trans people used for themselves in the past, but was co-opted by the right-wing during the stormfront era.
>he power can be taken away by reclaiming and embracing it, like with most slurs.I agree, but not all trans people do, so I just avoid using it.
honestly i 100% support a /queer/ board if only bc it would likely get more traffic than half the other boards and the only way i see this site surviving long term is if theres room for active posting outside /leftypol/ standard. imo whats really needed is there to be only five boards: /leftypol/, /meta/, /siberia/, /hobby/, and a general "/lifestyle/" board for casual discussion about everyday stuff that doesnt explicitly belong in any of the other boards and isnt unhinged antisocial enough for /siberia/
>>33350 Any "gay" board is going to be shit because of every reason every anon in opposition to it has posted ITT. How do I know this? Not only because it's obvious to anyone using critical thinking but its also proven with 4chan, it's board for this is ass-cancer and the same applies to literally every subforum and imageboard I've seen like it.
>if only bc it would likely get more traffic than half the other boardsNo it would not, stop stirring up this crock of shit again.
>imo whats really needed is there to be only five boards<lol lets just make /ent/ guyz!Oh its you leftychin shitters again. Go back.
>>33351><lol lets just make /ent/ guyz!>Oh its you leftychin shitters again. Go back.I have no idea what youre talking about lol, what the old split? im just saying it would be nice to actually have active posting on other boards besides the main one. youre right about a gay board though idk why i thought that would be a good idea
>>32786Because this isn't 4chan
>>33358>im just saying it would be nice to actually have active posting on other boards besides the main one. The other boards ARE active. They don't need to be high-speed boards because the subjects are more thoughtful. /anime/ got made because I and most other people on /hobby/ preferred to separate discussions of Japan and anime from other /hobby/ discussions. /AKM/ got made because the subject kept dying in /leftypol/ and /hobby/ so a separate board for weapons and military stuff was made, it's decently active. /edu/ is meant to be slow, it's an effortposting board essentially.
This Need for Speed is a holdover from social media and larger imageboards like 8ch and 4chan, and I for one enjoy the slower discussions here, it lets me be more methodical in my replies.
>>33350what's the distinction between /hobby/ and /lifestyle/?
>>33366Google Murray Bookchin
>>32786If an /lgbt/ board is established, and it ends up like 4chan, then it will become 99% transhumanists, and will become a forum for hating genderqueer people, femboys, cis women, chasers, "pooners", and themselves
>>33372>99% transhumanistsThat word means nothing anymore. I don't know who popularized it to be used as a slur. If you care to explain it would be good. I don't disagree with your reply, I'm just wondering why its being thrown around so nonchalantly. What do you think it means?
>>33373And I do realize a lot of articles call it eugenics and write about how its "nazism" to cure disabilities, but why aren't they advocating for the destruction of medicine? A person can be disabled from an accident, a person can become paralyzed and immobile - is it "NAZISM" to allow them to walk again? Is it racist to do that? Is it eugenics when eugenics is specifically categorized by “racial improvement” and “planned breeding” when transhumanism is not explicitly so? Can we equate that modifying your own body is as bad as forced segregation? Are we to deny people who wish to walk again the ability to do so? People who wish to live healthier? Or to be able to breathe properly? Or be able to stand up? Or be able to feed and clothe themselves? To be able to not be in constant pain? Is it all really "nazism" and "racism"? Or maybe, just maybe, these articles are made by bullshitters?
Its very likely that the term has become a sort of slur to an attempt at a merger with transgender, as if transhumanism which is supposed to be based on material change can somehow be applied onto social studies. But its still fascinating how people who otherwise advocate for social programs that are supposed to improve the lives of people can paint transcending human limits and the human condition as racist, nazist and even ableist.
>>33374>>33374>“racial improvement” and “planned breeding”And I'm using the quotations here directly from the articles, as quotations not as an indicator of doubt like quotation marks tend to get used for in sarcastic replies. As direct quotes. And asking, why is it being equated to a broad term which does not even posses a prefix to indicate a proposal of any program. That is that transhumanism by itself, on its own has no concrete proposal for a program.
>>33366my suggestion would be that anime, games, music, draw, guns, etc are rolled into hobby, and lifestyle is basically stuff about family, relationships, religion, sex, etc that are too off-topic for /leftypol/ proper but shouldnt necessarily be exiled to siberia or deleted outright. theres a fair amount of those imo, but if that wouldnt be viable as a seperate board fine by me, better less but better
>>33360fair enough, i was under the impression they were barely crawling by. if theyre consistent but slow and the consistent posters there like it that way, thats great, nevermind w/r/t
>>33377 in that case
>>33373It's a wordfilter for tran knee.
>>32807>to take away people's agency to live their lives by demanding they be partisan to identity politicsim sorry, what does this mean
why not create your own imageboard? all it takes is a vps, a domain name, some sysadmin skill and a cloudflare plan
>>33397They're referring to the liberal practise of taking an inherent identity trait (race, sex, etc.), and demanding it be inherently political, and in so doing, involving people that may share said identity traits regardless of whether they wish to be involved on such basis. It's deliberate identarian division of people and goes against the socialist concept of class struggle
This has been elaborated on ITT several times.
>>33404It's not a botnet…. It's more nefarious than that but not a botnet…
>>33372It will be a dead board. The /LGBT/ thread (which should be renamed to /queer/ but that's a separate topic) doesn't get enough traction. I've been too busy these past months to really keep on top of it.
>>33405botnet is a catch-all term, it doesn't refer to botnets specifically, but giving control over your computer/server/connection to any external company or service.
>>32786I don't really get why mods are so violently against the idea. But I think most people don't want an LGBT board or are ambivelous so there probably isn't much of a reason to make it.
>>33410>mods are so violently against the idea.They aren't "violently" against the idea. Violently would be banning anyone that dares mention the topic. Violently would be angry rants. Mods have explained why they won't do it, for the same reason you literally say.
>>33398self-hosting an onion site and eepsite is free though
>>33404>>33405it's a ddos guard
sorry but an imageboard for kweers is gonna get the shit dos'd out of it by random chvds
i guess u could set up ur own reverse proxy tho….
>>33471every decent host comes with ddos protection. cloudflare is about serving content around the world
>>33487
wtf nazis gassing gay men was anti-fascism?
>>33401being gay is already politicized by homophobes
no demanding needed
>>33420Well no, they quite forcefully say that they think it is identity politics and therefore evil. I think that is a reasonable position and I understand it is the common position held on this website, but as a Maoist I disagree and I think minority groups should be a target for recruitment. Also there is a lot more tolerance to Black Liberation 'idpol' (which I completely agree with btw) compared to LGBT 'idpol' even though in my eyes both can be mobilized easily.
>>33663there's no /black/ board either in case you didn't notice
No topic should have its own board until it dominates /leftypol/ or /siberia/. Also, many existing boards should be merged back in.
>>33408>botnet is a catch-all termIf you're meming on /g/, it is.
>>33433Good luck promoting a darknet imageboard
You can get free clearnet subdomains, and in some situations, free domains.
>>33663>Well no, they quite forcefully say that they think it is identity politics and therefore evilThe mods literally responded ITT, you can see what they're saying. And no that's not what violence is either, you desperate lib.
>as a Maoist You're a LARPer at best S
>I think minority groups should be a target for recruitment. What a convoluted way of completely misrepresenting the issue.
>there is a lot more tolerance to Black Liberation 'idpol' Because that isn't Idpol. Shit like Sakai is either memed or banned, other Black Rights activism is not because it specifically excludes measures that would harm white or latino or asian proletariat just for the sake of uplifting black people, Read Fred Hampton FFS.
>>33667>many existing boards should be merged back in.No, the existing boards came about for a reason and have their own tempos, reducing boards will not improve the site's discussion, leftych*n is proof of that.
>>33668>came about for a reasonYes. Those reasons are no longer relevant after the site lost two thirds of its post rate.
>Ieftychan is proof of thatHow? How are they evidence of that?
If anything, the opposite. Last I checked they have the same number of boards and less users. They failed to consolidate and are dilute as a result.
>>33682>Those reasons are no longer relevant after the site lost two thirds<2/3rds.LOL Нашёл дурака. PPH on leftypol and the alt-boards hasn't dropped significantly and has remained pretty stable since then. Your claim is bullshit.
>How are they evidence of that? The entire site is slow as fuck, /ent/ is a wacked out mess of hot takes, schizo shit and cancer, the mish-mash of different topics makes every other board there just another shitty variant of /b/, I don't see how having several si/b/eria's is in any way helpful, because that is what will happen if you merge /hobby/, /AKM/, /games/ and /anime/
Merging /edu/ into leftypol has been explained as one of the most retarded, burger-brained ideas to be voiced here, along with the OP topic of this thread. /edu/ is SUPPOSED to be slow, it's not supposed to be a rapid political shitposting and casual discussion board like /leftypol/, it's a purely academic board, for slower information posting and measured discussions.
The alt boards are all slow because this entire SITE is politically oriented, so the majority of posts are going to be on the MAIN board, it's why they're ALT boards FFS. They're slow, but have their own userbase and posting comes and goes depending on the time of day/week as well as their given media.
>They failed to consolidate and are dilute as a result. Because they made a bunch of shitty boards after the fact when they didn't have the userbase for it. Contrary to your claims, leftypol retained a good portion of its userbase and got new users too, new boards haven't been made in over a year, and all of them are used widely. They don't need to be break-neck speed boards, we're not 4chan, we don't WANT to be 4chan, so stop malding about things being slow.
>>33683At the start of 2020, bunckerchan hosted five public boards (/leftypol/, /hobby/, /gulag/, /GET/, /ref/).
At the end, it had eight, although if you still include /GET/ and /ref/ (they moved to their own site), it would be ten. That's five of the new boards.
The other remaining new boards (/roulette/, /music/, /draw/, /AKM/) were all created in 2021, before and shortly after the second coup, when post rates were still relatively high..
Take this front page snapshot of 2020-01-09:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200109192644/https://bunkerchan.xyz/And this snapshot of 2021-01-01:
https://web.archive.org/web/20210101113137/https://bunkerchan.xyz/In the bottom left corner they have the total site posts. Do the maths, you'll end up with over 3000 posts per day on average over the year.
This year, just like last year, it's a little over 1000.
How can you can say
"PPH on leftypol and the alt-boards hasn't dropped significantly and has remained pretty stable since then" and expect to be taken seriously? That's plain delusion, pure and simple, nothing less. /leftypol/ used to hit 300 peak PPH every day when those new boards were made. Now the whole site is lucky to lick 100. During multiple major conflicts including a genocide. During US election year.
My claim is evidenced. Your counter-claim is bullshit.
>Contrary to your [claim], leftypol retained a good portion of its userbaseIf objective numbers aren't enough for you, consider non-anonymous users as a sample (mods, tripfags, Matrix users). Most of them from 2020 or even 2021 are gone.
>so stop malding about things being slow.Pretty funny to see someone randomly using all-caps in a rant towards a few strawman arguments and then call any other post 'malding', let alone one as plain as that.
No-one complained about things being slow. I use more slow boards than I do fast boards, as a matter of fact. I said making new boards didn't make sense now that the site lost two-thirds of the post rate, and I said that because some of those boards would be more viable if they weren't isolated from other users, which wasn't the case back when there was enough specific interest and causal exposure for them to self-sustain and attract users. Ieftychan made a bunch of boards without the userbase for it, leftypol.org made a bunch of boards and then lost the userbase for it. I see no meaningful distinction. The problem isn't that those boards are slow. Slow isn't a problem inherently. It's that half of them are so dead they'd benefit from not being separate boards with almost no casual exposure, and that doing that again with a new /lgbt/ board in the current situation would be pretty silly.
>>33684a fun historical artifact to align with your case: bunkerchan's PPH was described as having an "abysmal" peak of 150 pph in the aftermath of the split:
https://web.archive.org/web/20210106085353/https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/30356.html#33242nowadays a peak of 150 would be a pretty good day.
>queer thread barely has any activity
<MAKE A WHOLE FUCKING BOARD NAO!!!!!!!!
Lol?
>It's how the right-wing infested board gives us better representation a space to be among our own but the supposedly leftist one doesn't
Lib.
>>33665Any day now we're going to have the most annoying maoids asking for a /thirdworld/ or /aes/ or something too.
>>33377As expected of a meta board it has the stupidest fucking suggestions ever.
>>33405>which should be renamed to /queer/ but that's a separate topicHowever, it is actually worth discussing. Someone should rename it (now, or when it is remade) to /queer/.
>>33684/GET/ doesn't count and you're shifting goalposts. It's also amusing that you use old as fuck data from the .xyz bunkerchan, but not the data from the .org version that was transferred over to.
>Do the maths, you'll end up with over 3000 posts per day on average over the year. This is Black Book of Communism tier "math" because there absolutely was NOT 3000 PPD on bunkerchan.
This is the data from a random day in 2019, it's 45 PPH in that instance, because PPH fluctuates, and this is PPH for the entire site. Current PPH today is 87 PPH, and other days in 2020 are roughly 100 PPH for the entire site. So yes, it's not a significant drop.
https://web.archive.org/web/20191001233538/http://bunkerchan.xyz/Your claim is nothing more than cherrypicking to fit your narrative. Eat shit.
>see someone randomly using all-caps in a rant towards a few strawman argumentsWhat the actual fuck are you on about? Capslock as cruise control isn't when you only make one word completely Capitalized, its when you write a sentence in all caps, you retard.
>No-one complained about things being slow Whenever people bring up merging existing boards because they're not as big as siberia or leftypol, or as you put it "dominates" is implicitly talking about them being slow and less active than the main board. Don't be obtuse.
>half of them are so dead they'd benefit from not being separate boards with almost no casual exposure I disagree.
>doing that again with a new /lgbt/ board in the current situation would be pretty sillyThis I agree with. I think the boards we have now are fine, I just don't think we need new ones. MAYBE an /nsfw/ board but in part only because the alt-boards were made /sfw/ a few years back (when they used to have nsfw content uncensored before).
>>33685>Someone claims that X was Z, because they saw numbers that were YFun fact, PPH is not constant and most people do not check it constantly. 150 PPH will be an instance. Right now PPH is roughly 87 or so. 8 months ago at 3:37AM it was 64 PPH. By your metric of argumentation, leftypol.org has grown.
inb4 "it's not the same!"https://archive.ph/jFjgX
>>33699>150 PPH will be an instanceI explicitly identified it as such: a
peak in posting. I recently saw this site peak around 150 PPH, in the interest of full disclosure, but the point is that such a peak figure was in 2020 considered low by at least one anonn. We may not have had 200 PPH 24/7, but the fact of the matter is we now have it
never. We can trawl the archives for an instance like May 27th 2020, where the 1am and 7pm captures show 200+ PPH and the 8pm captures show 150 PPH. 29th of May, 8pm: 209 PPH, and see that 150 was indeed a decline from a peak within then-living memory.
It's a shame we no longer have the PPD chart feature from Bunkerchan's software (showing PPH across a 24 hour period) which would settle all sorts of questions about the distribution of posting. In the absence of such a figure, I'm happy to run with: Peak PPH used to be higher, more often, and a decline in that figure hints at an overall decline in the absence of a compelling reason for people to have decided to space their posting out more evenly. (Imagine that we cannot see how many people live in a suburb, but we can see how crowded the road gets at peak commute times…)
>>33699>/GET/ doesn't countIt does lol.
>you're shifting goalpostsThe proven claim stayed the same. Leftypol lost 2 / 3 of its post rate.
>It's also amusing that you use old as fuck dataTheir mistake, they should have used recent data to compare the post rates of bunkerchan.xyz.
>but not the data from the .org versionWhoops we really should have used the website which didn't exist during the timeframe we compared with.
Alright im checking the numbers now.
Yep looks like /leftypol/ had a total of zero (0) posts between 2020-01-09 and 2021-01-01. If we divide that by the total number of days, we get and average PPH of 0, where we can estimate a daily peak of 0 posts.
>This is Black Book of Communism tier "math" because there absolutely was NOT 3000 PPD on bunkerchan.There was. In fact, at the end of 2020, /leftypol/ alone was closer to 4000. You can confirm this by comparing post numbers in snapshots, as shown in the post you replied to.
>This is the data from a random day in 2019,So, data from a different year. Wow! This sure is better than BBoC.
>because PPH fluctuatesWhich is why they took an average over an entire year, instead of taking a single hourly snapshot like you did.
PPH fluctuates. You literally explained why your random sampling is a joke of a measurement, then did it anyway.
>cherrypickingA whole year. 10% of the longest possible interpretation of 'leftypol'. Cherry-picking. hahahahaha ahahahahah.
>https://web.archive.org/web/20191001233538/http://bunkerchan.xyz/It's also amusing that you use old as fuck data from the .xyz bunkerchan, but not the data from the .org version that was transferred over to.
Who cares you little bitches lol
>>33728>they took an average over an entire year Based on shoddy math
>It does lol. No it doesn't because it was a separate site with its own userbase.
>It's also amusing that you use old as fuck data from the .xyz bunkerchan, but not the data from the .org version that was transferred over to. <haha let me use your words in a different context in which they do not make senseYou're a cock-gargling doomer-faggot.
>So, data from a different year. Yes, because the addition of public boards does not change the fact that the userbase was there. The boards have the same overall userbase, hence the usage of Total Site PPH you absolute nimrod.
Also if we're going to nitpick inclusion, the data demonstrated absolutely ignores /dead/ which actually WAS many times more active in the past then it is now.
>You can confirm this by comparing post numbers in snapshotsExcept those are for all the posts ever made for the site over the years, retard. while the url may have changed the site itself and its posts has remained for years before the split. Obviously if you collect and then divide posting rate based on that you're getting immense numbers.
>A whole year. 10% of the longest possible interpretation of 'leftypol'. Cherry-picking. Yes because it's not a whole year, it's bullshit averaging used to 'estimate' a whole year and then divvie up the data. This is literally how BBoC makes up death tolls for the Holodomor, by using projected numbers.
>>33722The 150 PPH being "low" is bullshit, because I've been here since the 8ch days and I remember what the bunker was like when we were forced to move. 200 PPH was pretty average, 300 was a good day. 400? Maybe once in a blue moon, such as when /pol/ tried to raid because they thought we created the chinlet meme.
What I'm saying is that yes, PPH has gone DOWN, but to say that we lost 2/3rds of our posting is exaggerating.
>>33735losing 25-50% is still pretty horrible and does not bode well for the future, especially as we're currently in several election years.
>>33738We're recovering numbers slowly, and frankly it's not as high as previous election years in part because the election has become such a joke that nobody but liberals and /pol/ legitimately cares about it.
>>33740"We" ain't recovering squat. Not as long as I got anything to say about it.
>>33839
theres tons of gay porn threads tho
>>33839
And did they make any statement for Pride? Not a peep from them. Their allegiance is clear from this fact alone.
>russophile homophobe sexists
What you are seeing is a total illusion.
My educated guess is the decision-makers are majority queer. The issue is totally different. It's actually impressive how far off you are (or that's what I would say if I hadn't seen this scene play out dozens of times).
They do not have a line because they do not have the ability to formulate and follow a line. Whatever you interpret into it is your interpretation and that alone.
>>33846
I very much doubt that. You have no actual backing for this claim.
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