[ home / rules / faq ] [ overboard / sfw / alt ] [ leftypol / edu / labor / siberia / lgbt / latam / hobby / tech / games / anime / music / draw / AKM ] [ meta ] [ wiki / shop / tv / tiktok / twitter / patreon ] [ GET / ref / marx / booru ]

/meta/ - Ruthless criticism of all that exists (in leftypol.org)

Discussions, querries, feedback and complaints about the site and its administration.
Name
Options
Subject
Comment
Flag
File
Embed
Password(For file deletion.)

Not reporting is bourgeois


 

its clear to me that the current mod team is about as effective as an impacted bowel, and so radical reform is needed. I feel as though we should have a federal structure for leftypol. I.E. reorganize the matrix chat so that we have one room per board. Instead of having site wide mods we would have each board be governed by a single mod (for slower boards) or a clique of mods who share power. Each mod/mod clique could make their own decisions about who to bring on as janitors under them. Unlike now, those janitors would only be invited to the proper board-related room, and would not simply be junior mods non probation but instead would be perma-jannies.

Developers/IT people and Administrators would still have site-wide power.

In order to break up the traffic to multiple boards, /leftypol/ would simply become the name of the overboard/site itself, and we could have in addition to a brazilian board, other boards for geopolitics, /edu/ would be renamed /theory/, etc.

I feel this would be a good thing because currently you have a ton of inactive or semi inactive mods who just hang out in the matrix all day and don't actually mod. Giving them their own little project/fiefdom would encourage them to clean up the thumbnail graveyard, and actually do maintenance on the alt boards.

you could have performance based metrics, using PPH / IPs on the front page you could measure if the mod is doing a good job by whether they have driven more traffic to their board over time while maintaining quality. If they do a good job they can get responsibility over another board of their choice, if not they will lose out to someone who does.

NAJ but could start doing /leftypol/ kinda stuff on activitypub. Like I see memes from here, even some I've made, get shared on mastodon every once in a while.

File: 1729615452179.png (23.14 KB, 661x341, federal_leftypol.png)

heres a diagram showing how it might work.

File: 1729615501861.jpg (37.16 KB, 583x583, 1684122637396.jpg)

>>36230
(copied from matrix chat)

Having only one mod per board wouldn't really work since we need 24/7 coverage

But perhaps we could give certain mods 'special responsibility' over individual boards

And it would be their responsibility to keep that board clean and tidy and organised in general, beyond just removing obvious spam and shit

if someone posts CP or pol shit on a low population board we can't just wait for the board's mod to be online

[I know you said admins would have overall oversight] But unless we have a ton of admins that wouldn't be total coverage still

>>36233
t. me

>>36233

I never suggested larger boards should only have 1 mod. In the OP i said you have have a clique of mods instead of one, especially for higher traffic boards.

giving particular mods control of particular boards encourages accountability. The reason is because when every mod controls every board you have a bunch of free riders.

Lets take your example of the CP on a low population board. The reality is that an admin would likely be the one to remove that even today. The same people who are admins now, would be the ones removing it in reality already.

The fact is that the vast, vast, vast majority of modding today is done by a tiny percentage of the mod base, mostly cyberbarb, caballo, zan, misato, wvobly, with occasional appearances by antinous/sorg/small. That is to say there are about 5 mods doing 90%+ the job out of hypothetically around 15 "theoretically" active mods.

Furthermore there are janitors. The mods can have jannies. per the original post, today the janitor rank is just a probationary period before becoming a full mod. In this setup mods could invite their own retinue/army of janitors who would deal with that stuff in a mass amazon mechanical turk fashion.

The reason hiring a single board janitor is a lower bar than a mod is because the damage they can do is limited as they can't see IPs. This would allow individual board mods or mod teams to retain their own janitors to deal with spam. This also further decentralizes power as more 'normal' users feel as though they have a stake in the outcomes of modding. Its like a standing militia.

>>36235
>In this setup mods could invite their own retinue/army of janitors who would deal with that stuff in a mass amazon mechanical turk fashion
which would help have more 24/7 coverage.

File: 1729803926643.png (421.97 KB, 680x570, 1722840244624.png)

>>36235
>I never suggested larger boards should only have 1 mod. In the OP i said you have have a clique of mods instead of one, especially for higher traffic boards.

I mean sure but this would necessarily mean that not all the mods we have on staff would be able to mod all boards. Which IMO is bad for coverage.

>giving particular mods control of particular boards encourages accountability.


I mean yeah I kinda agree on this, which is why I said above that maybe we can appoint a mod for each board (probably not leftypol because it's too big), and they will have special responsibility for it, but not that only they can mod it.

>The reason is because when every mod controls every board you have a bunch of free riders.


I mean is free riders really an issue? Not like anyone's getting paid here.

>Lets take your example of the CP on a low population board. The reality is that an admin would likely be the one to remove that even today. The same people who are admins now, would be the ones removing it in reality already.


>The fact is that the vast, vast, vast majority of modding today is done by a tiny percentage of the mod base, mostly cyberbarb, caballo, zan, misato, wvobly, with occasional appearances by antinous/sorg/small. That is to say there are about 5 mods doing 90%+ the job out of hypothetically around 15 "theoretically" active mods.


If I agree with your proposal, that would mean making at least two new admins, which the staff doesn't seem that keen on. I think having too many admins also creates confusion about what people's responsibilities actually are and who actually has power to do things if there's a disagreement.

>Furthermore there are janitors. The mods can have jannies. per the original post, today the janitor rank is just a probationary period before becoming a full mod. In this setup mods could invite their own retinue/army of janitors who would deal with that stuff in a mass amazon mechanical turk fashion.


Okay, but we only had like 4-5 applications to the most recent mod round, would there really be more people wanting to become janitors of individual boards where they don't even have full powers or rights over the site?

>The reason hiring a single board janitor is a lower bar than a mod is because the damage they can do is limited as they can't see IPs. This would allow individual board mods or mod teams to retain their own janitors to deal with spam. This also further decentralizes power as more 'normal' users feel as though they have a stake in the outcomes of modding. Its like a standing militia.


I mean I guess, but already we have problems when people disagree over what should be deleted even with the relatively small number of active mods, if we had a bunch of jannies as well that situation would be even worse since all their opinions would have to be taken into account as well.

Basically, I don't really agree with the idea of adding more vertical layers to our existing structure. The admins are already supposed to just be functionaries of the democratic will of the mod team so I don't agree with giving them more powers.

Here is an idea for more mod coverage. Why not give OP's weak mod power within their own thread.

Like this: They can't delete posts or images by others, but they can hide things from view. And anybody can see that it's the OP that did it. Posts get replaced with "message hidden by OP" and image spoilers added by OP get their own special graphic. And anybody can reveal for themselves all posts hidden by OP by just clicking a button.

>>36262
thats cool but would probably require some software work since afaik no current imageboard works this way

>>36262
I've been here from day fucking one show me some respect or I will put you in the ground.


Unique IPs: 6

[Return][Go to top] [Catalog] | [Home][Post a Reply]
Delete Post [ ]
[ home / rules / faq ] [ overboard / sfw / alt ] [ leftypol / edu / labor / siberia / lgbt / latam / hobby / tech / games / anime / music / draw / AKM ] [ meta ] [ wiki / shop / tv / tiktok / twitter / patreon ] [ GET / ref / marx / booru ]