/meta/ - Ruthless criticism of all that exists (in leftypol.org)

Example or bullshit

>>41166
Take tulpas, for example. You may have heard of how you can manifest something into reality based on your own consciousness. An imaginary friend coming to life. I recently learned that multiple people can manifest the same thing. This could be excellent for accomplishing some kind of goal

paranormal means outside the material world. such things do not exist. we do not need a swamp for schizophrenia and ecclecticism to foster

>>41166
Another example could be the occult and magick. Utilized correctly, we'd accomplish anything

>>41168
I beg to differ. In fact, the material world is but an illusion created by the Demiurge. Our job is to transcend it

>>41170
i know this is a nonsectarian board but idealism vs materialism is not something that needs debate. either you accept materialism or gtfo

>>41171
Now now, i understand your point, and i can see why materialism is important. However, can there not be room for both? Like, say we have a materialistic mindset to try and fix everything in the material world. That works, no problem with that. However, there's much more to the world than what we can perceive in a material sense, believe it or not. I think that we can use the more idealistic mindset to try and see past that barrier. We can utilize both, you know. Your preference depends on the person, and both can be used in a healthy or unhealthy manner

>>41167
>>41170
Righteo then, get on your hands and knees, knock your forehead against the ground and apologise to Stalin

>>41173
Why would I apologize to him? I don't even support his authoritarian ass, tankie

there seems to be a misunderstanding here. Theres no such thing as non collectivist socialism.
Uf sonebody us trying to sell you that theyre a fed.

>>41172
>However, there's much more to the world than what we can perceive in a material sense, believe it or not.
no

>>41174
Because you volunteered by discussing tulpas
Apologise to Stalin for what you just said

>>41168
Sir you are on the Lysenkoist, Katyn denial, Holocaust revisionism, Settlers debate, multipolarist board.
If you did not want a swamp for schizophrenia and ecclecticism to foster the time has passed ages ago.

>>41178
>Holocaust revisionism
Excuse me are you denying that the Nazis genocided over 18 million people?

>>41165
Honestly if you want to discuss religion, the paranormal, the spiritual and the arcane, you’d have to apply this through a socialist lens-
I’d say instead of /x/ you have a /theo/ board- as liberation theology is certainly a thing.

>>41179
No I'm talking about the French paper calling all jews petit bourgeoisie which was fundamentally wrong that was posted here recently and was so ass the mods had to lock the thread but over the years I've seen Holocaust revisionism, which is not denial, on varying levels from anons.

>>41175
Exactly. See, everyone and everything is connected. Descended from stardust and eternally linked to everything around us in one way or another. In order to live in a free, socialist type of society, we must all agree to live in such a way, which of course leads to a form of collectivism. If you deny others the ability to do things, then by default it implies that you can't have it either, and therefore it is necessary to live in some variation of collectivism. At the same time, individualism can be important as well, just read Stirner for more on that (Not an egoist but read his work and enjoyed it). Therefore, we should strive for a world where it's a society of indivualism and collectivism combined into one, where neither and both exist at the same time. But until we reach that point, collectivism is the best bet

>>41180
Honestly i think that's a very good idea

>>41177
Not happening, bootlicker

>>41182
This sounds like a more poetic version of Bukharin's take on dialectical materialism
Apologise to Stalin

>>41182
orthodix marxism is not abolishing capitalism is more about tyranny of the majority and the working class opressing the capitalist class.
The 10 planks is a failure by karl marx because its so vague. a heavy orogressive income tax. Okay how heavy marx. A national bank with exclusive monopoly by the state. Okay how dies the state work marx.

>>41186
Chyna has a state bank, and that works great for them
Apologise to Stalin

>>41185
I'm not apologizing to fucking Stalin, and lemme tell you why. He was a dictator who perverted the name of communism (I mean seriously, the USSR was just bureaucratic capitalism), he committed genocide and imperialism on several groups and countries, mass censorship and imprisonment of dissenters, leftist or otherwise, and i just don't support the Soviets at all. It's just tyranny cosplaying as a communist nation. Your obsession with Stalin is almost fetishistic, and this blind loyalty to a leader is exactly what I'm against. I will not apologize to Stalin of all people for mentioning fucking tulpas

>>41188
What a boring response in an /x/ thread, you really should apologise to Stalin for that one patzer

>>41186
Yeah i pretty much agree with that. Marx had some useful things to say but he wasn't right about everything, and many other theorists are probably better for more modern sensibilities, like Debord for example

>>41189
Hey man, you were the one stirring the pot, idk what to tell you

>>41191
Nothing, just go get on your hands and knees and apologise to Stalin for existing

>>41190
its often left out abolishion of private property with rent towarss the public purpose.
Okay si theres still rent i guess.
Extebsion if public factories. And this is where the argument if china being socialist really rings true.
For how anal he was of his analysus if capitalism his solution was anything but.

>>41186
the ten planks were a proposal for 1840s germany. if you were to make ten planks today it would be different because the material conditions are different.

>>41188
>he committed imperialism
oh boy

>>41192
This argument is stupid, i'm gonna go do something else now. I suggest reading some theory and touching some grass. And no, i'm not apologizing to your apparent husbando Stalin

>>41165
We had one for awhile when roulette was ongoing but I was one of the few who posted on it.

>>41197
I think that was like the only board that lost roulette actually.

>>41196
Tulpa, apologise to the Tulpa of Stalin
He is already sitting on your shoulder

/wierd/

Ufos and ghosts but also more vaudvillian topics

>>41171
>i know this is a nonsectarian board but idealism vs materialism is not something that needs debate. either you accept materialism or gtfo

what about Bataille Gnosticism, anon, would that be ok ,anon? It'spretty Materialist:

>The fairly widespread doctrine of emanation (according to which the ignoble creator god, in other words the cursed god - sometimes associated with Jehovah of the Bible - emanated from the Supreme God) responded to a need for a palliative. But if we confine ourselves to the specific meaning of Gnosticism, indicated both by heresiological controversies and by carvings on stones, the despotic and bestial obsession with outlawed and evil forces seems irrefutable, as much in its metaphysical speculation as in its mythological nightmare.
It is difficult to believe that on the whole Gnosticism does not manifest above all a sinister love of darkness, a monstrous taste for obscene and lawless archontes, for the head of the solar ass (whose comic and desperate braying would be the signal for a shameless revolt against idealism in power). The existence of a sect of licentious Gnostics and of certain sexual rites fulfils this obscure demand for a baseness that would not be reducible, which would be owed the most indecent respect: black magic has continued this tradition to the present day."
-Bataille. Base Materialism and Gnosticism.

Or what about Aristotle's metaphysics?
That's been discussed on here. Aristotle didn't think that Form and Matter were found separately, so in that sense he's not an Idealist in the sense that Plato is. Is it ok to Aristotle-post?

So far, Gnosticism and Aristotle, this is just religion and philosophy.
There's not really that much on /leftypol/ , or even /siberia/ about the paranormal, as such, which is stuff like ghosts and vampires.
There has been stuff posted about vampires in the past, but most of it sarcastically, in relation to the order of nine angles. o9anon can elucidate, but I think there was an "order of the wampir " in the o9a or a similar group

So it's a non-problem. Most people who are into the paranormal are going to post it on the david icke forums or whatever.

>>41165
Schizophrenia can be treated. Please consider seeing a shrink.

My tulpa raped me. He f*cking raped me.

>>41168
>>41171
this tbh, the last thing we need is more schizos

Go back there.
Why are shartyuyghurs not banned on sight?

will anti materialism ever die?

>>41165
Since you are an anarchist and apparent Gnostic, I highly recommend you look into Liber Anarkhos and Chronicles of Anarchy.

Don't care. Fuck off to /siberia/.
Why is it always the most cringe retards who come here claiming to be anarchists?

>>41208 (me)
I'd also bet everything in my pockets OP isn't an anarchist or even leftist in any respect, I guarantee his supposed 'politics' are not even marginaly rooted in action and in his community and are nothing but an aesthetic choice in how they choose to view and present themselves.

>>41165
metaphysiical garbage.
Go back to 4chan.

>>41208
Because anarchism IS cringe retardation