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I'm sure there are better things to do with your time than protest the fucking Alchemist? Idk I guess praxis is praxis but geez this bar is low

>>16778
It’s a BDS violation. “Israelis” and Zionists deserve to be shunned from public life entirely. You wouldn’t have allowed a German musician who worked with Nazi artists to perform in 1938, would you?

>>16777
>Him being invited as part of Montreal’s Jazzfest is a BLATANT violation of BDS
>violation of BDS
lmao and did the Jazzfest ever promise to follow the BDS?

>>16780
Does it matter? You wouldn’t allow musicians who produced songs for fascist musicians in the 1930s to perform, would you? White South African musicians in 1970? C’mon.

>>16777
you sound like you're under 18, why are you going to jazzfest anyways

>>16781
It does, you retard. Not everyone follows the BDS principle. And if they don't, they can't violate it, lol

Is it bad that he used to be one of my favourite producers. I really liked him and boldy james

>>16782
I’m 23.

>>16783
Everyone needs to comply with BDS. No one with a concern for humanity should be allowing Zios or “Israelis” any kind of public platform.

>>16784
Listen to Shostakovich instead.

Israeli Salad is actually fire. Fuck OP.

>>16788
>is a Jew
>stage name is literally about turning base metals into gold
>photo of him rubbing his hands together
Pottery

What do you want people to do? Picket the venue? Organize a boycott of Jazzfest itself? This is a huge event that brings hundreds of thousands of tourist bucks to MTL (I live here too). I’m pretty sure your band of 40 comrades boycotting won’t do shit. Maybe tell MTL Palestine Action to do something? What will they do? Barge in during Al’s DJ set with Palestinian flags to run him off the stage?

>>16777
>Hey /pol/.
you copypasted it without even changing it. amazing

>>16788
>>16789
Hasan's alter ego

>Any suggestions?

Infantry assault and then take the Zionist hostage before you execute him anyway after the ransom is paid.

>>16786
>socialism is when no electronic music
The absolute state of tankies.

Get a sandwich board and walk around outside Jazzfest with handbills. On the sandwich board it should say "Boycott this Apartheidist Festival!" on one side and "Say No to War!" on the other. Wear sunglasses and look pissed off. You have to do this for the whole time Jazzfest is happening. Treat it like a job. You HAVE to be out there walking around.

Afterwards send a letter to thd organizers of Jazzfest and tell them you've acquired a following due to your actions and if they book another zionist next year you're going to lead a demonstration outside their house (this works.) Now you can attend Jazzfest next year.

>>16777
what's the point in protesting outside the venue? you should perform a more direct action like waving the Palestinian flag during his set or shouting 'free Palestine' during quiet moments. as we've seen with other zionist acts such as Radiohead and Sleaford Mods, they get absolutely brain broken by even the mildest show of solidarity with Palestinians. plus there's a good chance it will get recorded and posted on social media which will force the festival organizers to acknowledge their violation of the BDS.

Hold him hostage and demand the release of all the Palestinian political prisoners for his return.

>>16777
So this is a song he produced for some Israeli rappers.

You think a significant chunk of society anywhere except like 20 countries cares so much about boycotting Shitsrael? Lol.

>>16799
they care more about respecting pronouns and facile "land acknowledgements" than an actual ongoing genocide, we know

Hold a rally for Palestine the same day he arrives.

>>16794
Music sampling is the ultimate late capitalist art form. It prioritized efficiency over artistry and makes music more easily reproducible. Plus it turns the producer into a god-king and removes the collectivist element of music. Sampling was by far the death of popular music.

>>16796
Good idea. I don’t want to pay for my ticket into the venue though.

>>16802
>Sampling was by far the death of popular music.
Sampled music only makes up such a small fraction of popular music.
>Plus it turns the producer into a god-king and removes the collectivist element of music.
You're complaining about this while upholding classical?

Throw a pie in his face and scream "FREE PALESTINE" as you do it.

Tell the local Palestine group and occupy the venue before he’s able to perform. Block his ability to get in. Bring Palestinian flags and kuffiyehs.

>>16815
I like this idea

Put flyers all over downtown Montreal demanding that Zios not be platformed.

Why?

>>16856
The article in question:

https://www.gnvinfo.com/alchemist-alan-maman-gainesville-big-culture-arts-festival/

Apparently, Al is scheduled to perform alongside Earl Sweatshirt at a festival in Gainesville. An “anti-normalization” group is already protesting and digging up dirt on him.

Moral hysteria regarding this issue has blinded everyone.

Read the article and see what The Alchemist is actually being "cancelled" for. All he's accused of is 1. having an Israeli father and a strong Jewish identity, 2. visiting Israel a handful of times, and 3. making a beat tape entitled Israeli Salad that uses samples from Israeli music. He's not accused of inciting violence against Palestinians, stealing their land, demolishing their homes, destroying their olive trees, or torturing them in Israeli prisons. So why is he receiving backlash? Because any association with anything related to Israel is morally implicating to the point at which somebody should be driven out of public life.

This issue operates at a purely social level. It's not like Al violated International Law by making that beat tape. It's purely about what social associations are or aren't acceptable according to the morality of the BDS Movement. So because it operates on a purely social level, it is a kind of consummately anarchist moral panic. People who don't think the way to solve a problem like this is to litigate it politically, but who think that all problems should be solvable through social intercourse, will obviously treat social violations as if they were criminal acts, and they will respond to these "violations" through the most punitive forms of ad hoc social behaviours such as shaming, shunning, spreading innuendos, trying to drive the person out of public life, attacking anyone who affiliates with them, memory hole-ing their entire body of work, trying to dig up anything that person has said or did to justify their cancellation, dogpiling on them online, etc. This is what people who operate principally in the realm of the social and who aren't willing to take things into the realm of the political do. "Cancel culture" itself operates entirely on this basis.

>>16863
To be honest, we really need to have a discussion on what it means to be complicit in genocide or colonialism or whatever.

There are Palestine activists who will insist even acknowledging Israel exists as a country (regardless if you think it *should* exist or not) is the equivalent of bombing a Gaza hospital. Drinking Starbucks is the equivalent of murdering Palestinian children. Of course it's not, but attacking the symbolic has largely replaced instrumental politics these days, which is also why random Jews who have nothing to do with Israels' crimes get attacked by random people.