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 No.479105[View All]

>be me
>arab/turk
>into black women
>my family, particularly my mom doesn't want me to marry or even think of dating a woman with the slightest melamine
>nooo society will look down on you and your black wife!
>nooo you will ruin muh family genetics
>nooo your children will turn out ugly and get bullied
>nooo you will face racism in Europe! marry an Aryan woman instead!

feels bad man
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 No.504597

>>503147
I’m curious Muslim anon, as a fellow Muslim do you think frequenting Chan sites damages your iman? I’ve been using imageboards for 10+ years at this point and as I’m getting older I don’t see much merit in using them anymore. This site actually seems pretty fascinating but the vast majority of imageboards are just cesspools.

 No.504599

>>503279
those kinda fros are more of a 60s/70s thing

 No.504604

>>504597
imam more like gaymam lol
fuck it

a god that's worth worshipping is the kind of god who don't care the about the gay shit we get up to, as long as we treat each other with kindness and love

 No.504706

>>487764
also a black muslim woman reading this…we probably come from the same country hmm. we really are everywhere

 No.504708

Another miserably failed black women appreciation thread, bravo.

 No.504714

>>504597
Admittedly being a chantard does affect my view of Aqeedah, or rather just running in 'this circle' (i.e leftist social analysis) in general. But i came from a rather secularized, left leaning family in the first place (dad had a few run ins with the SWP while studying in UK, never see him take anything spiritual seriously) so shameful as it is it doesn't give the same unconscious ennui you might experience from going to the chans

 No.504715

>>504714
There really are no genuine muslims on here

 No.504717

>>504715
Well duh this is a communist imageboard

 No.504822

>>504706
That’s wild, is it in East Africa? Man, I’m shocked by how terminally online our ethnicity is because I’ve come across our people on the most obscure forums you could imagine. I don’t currently live there though but rather a more westernized nation.
>>504714
Thanks for the response, you seem like you have a great head on your shoulders.

 No.504923

>>504822
Yes, I am also East African. Do you browse female image boards? Lolcow and such? I think those are the only places were we don’t have an online presence although I came across an east african muslim girl on a fujo board so I might be wrong. I live in the west too, I’ve never been to africa.

 No.504941

>>504923
Yeah I do, I’ve been on those sites for ages. It’s insane coming across another East African girl on here, what are the chances! I’m an adult though, I feel like you might be a youngin. If you’re over the age of 21 maybe we should connect on d**scord, drop your tag, my username starts with random.

 No.504944

>>504941
I’m 21. Is that okay? My fbi.gov is 1508s

 No.504945

>>504944
meant d**scord

 No.504956

>>504944
Yeah that’s fine, I sent the request

 No.504958

>>504708
I appreciate that black women itt are meeting each other, which in itself makes the thread better than the previous ones combined.

 No.504973

vulgar thrust

 No.504992

>>504584
>platonic object
Great, an idealist.

I don't "mediate" friendship through the "ego," you have friends because it's pleasing to you, because you desire to have friends. And how is something that's pleasing to you not in your interest? That's the point of having self-interests: attaining pleasure and happiness and avoiding pain. It's pure id, not ego.

 No.505017

>>504992
No, actually, I'm completely anhedonic, so I don't experience any enjoyment from friendship, I consciously maintain friendships to please a hypothetical model of a person who enjoys such things, because I have consciously arrived at the conclusion that it would be beneficial for that hypothetical person, whom I use as a stand-in for myself and others.

It is the only truly infallible mode of being, because it doesn't rely on the fickle and arbitrary nature of pleasure and enjoyment, which different people experience or even don't experience depending on their neurological quirks.

Egoism is just solipsism with extra steps. Your subjective experiences and thoughts are just the arbitrary churnings of an ancient lizard brain, they should not be used as a point of reference. Instead, one should identify with their Mask: the construct with which they present and interface with society, not the internal guts and bowels of your inner mind, which are inevitably gross and monstrous when fully revealed.

 No.505035

>>505017
>completely anhedonic
How complete are we talking here?

 No.505044

>>505017
>I consciously maintain friendships to please a hypothetical model of a person who enjoys such things
This is beyond spooked. That's ultra-spooked, you are downright obsessed with social norms.
>It is the only truly infallible mode of being, because it doesn't rely on the fickle and arbitrary nature of pleasure and enjoyment
You still operate on a desire. A desire to avoid making mistakes. Thus you shun emotions, you're avoiding pain. You cannot escape.
>which are inevitably gross and monstrous when fully revealed
What an infallible being operating on pure emotions, I see. None of this matters, whether my internal guts are disgusting to you is not important to me, it's pointless to care about such things because it's coming from a moralistic viewpoint. And metaphysical solipsism has nothing in common with egoism. Nothing.

 No.505142

>>505044
Nope, has nothing to do with social norms, or avoiding mistakes.
I have just consciously decided to do this one thing, so I'm doing it. I am free.

It is you who is, in fact, spooked, because you think it matters whether you enjoy something or not, or that you should do something because you enjoy it, and not do something because you don't enjoy it. Which is a bio-neurological spook in itself.

Also, I find it funny that your own example of having friends was epicly based and pleasing muh ego, but if I do it for some other reason than direct neurochemical pleasure, it's suddenly spooked.
Are you sure you're not a hedonist?

 No.505143

>>505137
>I have just consciously decided to do this one thing, so I'm doing it. I am free.
Nobody does something without a reason. Surely you're doing this detachment because it's pleasing to you, you gain enjoyment from theidea that you're free, that makes you feel safe and your belief system consistent. You cling to Marxian metaphysics because it satisfies your desires and gives your life order but if you introduce some unpredictable element like egoism the whole system starts shaking so you run away back into security.

 No.505144

>>505142
>if I do it for some other reason than direct neurochemical pleasure, it's suddenly spooked
Well, you're an egoist. But a spooked one. There is no contradiction.

 No.505154

>>505143
>Nobody does something without a reason
Your belief in a necessity of some compelling requirement to do anything is a spook. You have invented for yourself a slavedriver in the form of "what pleases my ego"
Me, I can decide to do things even if I don't believe in them, or even if they don't bring me any direct enjoyment.
Like, one day I just decided to be a marxist (as if it even matters if you're privately a marxist or anything).
You, on the other hand, are constantly paranoid about being chained by ideas, and that paranoia itself is what chains you and narrows your freedom.

>>505144
You are spooked by egoism.

 No.505171

>>505154
>ego
Why do you keep using this word?
>or even if they don't bring me any direct enjoyment
>direct
Gotcha. Long-term goals are egoistic too. You seem to operate on the egoist strawman, you think an egoist is egocentric, decadent, narcissistic and narrow-minded. This definition of egoism is very narrow, it confines the egoist to desire only what this definition allows. Not that different from you, just the reverse.
>that paranoia itself is what chains you and narrows your freedom
No more than your ideas chain you. I'd argue that your ideas chain you even more. In order to do things without a reason you literally have to stop thinking, our brains are wired to operate on causes and effects.
>You are spooked by egoism.
Egoism isn't a spook because its point is to dissolve spooks, not create another idea that restricts one's desire.
<But scruples, which thought created, now exist and can certainly be eliminated through thought. But this thought, this critique, achieves this aim only when it is egoistic thought, egoistic critique, i.e., when egoism or self-interest is asserted against scruples or against the uninteresting, when self-interest is openly professed, and the egoist criticizes from the egoistic viewpoint, rather than from the christian, socialist, humanist, human, free thought, spiritual, etc., viewpoint (i.e., like a christian, a socialist, etc.), because the self-interest of the unique, thus your self-interest, gets trampled underfoot precisely in the sacred, or human, world, and this same world, which Hess and Szeliga for example, reproach as being egoist, on the contrary has bound the egoist to the whipping post for thousands of years and fanatically sacrificed egoism to every “sacred” thing that has rained down from the realm of thought and faith. We don’t live in an egoistic world, but in a world that is completely sacred down to its lowest scrap of property.

 No.505174

So, egoists think that the exact same behaviors and thoughts are qualitatively different depending if you do it for egoist or non-egoist reasons, and something only "counts" if it's done for egoist reasons, despite the outcome being the same.

Isn't that in itself a kind of morality. Even worse, it's idealism.
Kinda like how in christianity, you can be a good person or whatever, but it doesn't "count" unless it is done "through christ".

It is a moral requirement that whatever you do is done in an "unspooked" manner, like you have to wear a mental condom before you engage with the scary, scary ideas.

 No.505182

>>505171
>you literally have to stop thinking
Yes, and that's a good thing. Thoughts are a spook. They're empty.
They're just random noise that bubbles out of the recesses of your brain, they should not be taken too seriously.

>Gotcha. Long-term goals are egoistic too.

It's not about temporal distance, but conceptual distance.
I have a construct in my mind, for whose imagined enjoyment I attend to, which in turn pleases me, but in a cosmic kinda way.
The only difference between me and you is that I externalize that construct, while you fully identify with it, which makes you spooked.

The whole thing about pleasure is a semantic game anyway, everyone does everything for either pleasure or pain avoidance reasons, so everyone is actually an egoist, I just don't see the necessity in adopting a certain type of properly licensed Brand of Egoism(tm), where you behave in the same manner as everyone else, except you have the ghost of striner or whatever telling you what's the correct and incorrect way of being an egoist.

 No.505184

>>505174
>So, egoists think that the exact same behaviors and thoughts are qualitatively different depending if you do it for egoist or non-egoist reasons, and something only "counts" if it's done for egoist reasons, despite the outcome being the same.
Okay, Hess.
<Hess asks: “First of all, what is egoism in general, and what is the difference between the egoistic life and the life of love?” This question already reveals his kinship with the other two. How can one assert such a contrast between egoistic life and the life of love against Stirner, since for him the two get along quite well?

 No.505186

black woman thread btw

 No.505188

>>505184
They get along, but one is a superficial requirement placed on top of the other.
Just as being a Christian gets along with any behavior, as long as it's done "through christ".

I'm not saying there's contrast or conflict between the two, I'm saying that one is not necessary at all, and you can have just the one.
Why be conceptually an Egoist, rather than being a regular old egoist as everyone already is?
What's the point of this veil of Egoism through which everything must be mediated?

 No.505189

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>>505186
post nut clarity caused these bozos to start arguing about egoism lmfao

 No.505190

>>505182
>Thoughts are a spook
Oh, please.
>They're just random noise that bubbles out of the recesses of your brain, they should not be taken too seriously
You really think you don't think just because you don't use words?
>I have a construct in my mind, for whose imagined enjoyment I attend to, which in turn pleases me, but in a cosmic kinda way.
>The only difference between me and you is that I externalize that construct, while you fully identify with it, which makes you spooked.
I don't identify with egoism, we're both egoists, you're just in denial.

 No.505191

>>505188
>They get along, but one is a superficial requirement placed on top of the other
Ah, you're referring to your own metaphysics here, lmao? Egoism is not a requirement, love is already egoistic.

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 No.505193

>>505190
>>505191
I'm an egoist (as is everyone), but you're an Egoist(tm).

Egoism is not a requirement, but Egoism(tm) is, to licensed and brand certified Egoists(tm). Love is egoistic, but that's not enough, it also has to be Egoistic(tm) for an Egoist(tm), otherwise it's the bad-wrong "spooked" kind of love.

You wear the ghost of Stirner like a condom on your mind, through which you mediate all your experiences.

 No.505195

>>505193
There's no capital E egoism but there is conscious egoism and it's not a requirement either if you enjoy your delusions so much.

Nothing matters.

 No.505196

>>505195 (me)
People will naturally come to egoism once they realize how pointless it is to serve sacred ideas. Which is what the spook book is for.

 No.505197

>>505196 (me)
>egoism
*conscious egoism

 No.505198

>>505195
If nothing matters, so does being a conscious egoist not matter.

>>505196
Not any more pointless than serving non-sacred ideas.

Lmao this philosophy is just pointless mental masturbation equivalent to rotating a cube in your mind for fun.

"Nothing matters unless it doesn't matter in a way I approve of"

 No.505356

Spook boy gets eaten by aggro buddhist
Huh that's new

 No.505427

>tfw will never be able to marry a black queen

 No.505439

>>505427
This is the fifteenth time I've seen someone post about never being able to do something that is completely achievable, like learning an instrument or language. Just do it. It's not hard

 No.505473

>>505198
>If nothing matters, so does being a conscious egoist not matter.
Yes. But why not? It frees your desire, you can do what you really want instead of being restricted by imagined concepts.
>Not any more pointless than serving non-sacred ideas.
You don't "serve" non-sacred ideas. Servitude implies slavery. You're enslaved to fixed ideas. Non-fixed ideas are as rich and diverse as life itself because conscious egoists embrace life instead of some abstractions. If non-fixed ideas are always changing and fleeting, how can you say that you serve them if you dispose of them when they're no longer useful?
>"Nothing matters unless it doesn't matter in a way I approve of"
No. Nothing matters. I just choose to act like that because I like to do what I want, not act out of habit or tradition or social pressure or whatever other pointless restriction, it pleases me to act like that. You can act however you want, you are already an egoist, a phrase-maker. It'll always be an expression of your self-interests. I simply don't need to justify my decisions to myself with higher causes.

 No.505516

not a good day/evening/night for you is it spook boy

 No.505563

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>>480339
fatter

 No.505742

>>505721
15 minute yap fest by some obviously resentful guy. Only thing he said with actual substance was near the end where he said they don't wash their hair, which I don't get because there's tons of shampoo made specifically for weaves and also targeting the hair underneath with tools.

 No.505877

>>505734
You do realize someone like him wouldn’t see you as any different from black Americans right? Racists don’t care, they hate anyone who doesn’t look like them. Don’t ever pander to racist people, they don’t deserve any sympathy and should be treated like the subhuman they are.

 No.505881

>>504068
those young women already have good prospects thats why.


Theres few young womn whom lack romantic prospects.


Now, when they hit forty, the tables reverse.

 No.505884

sexpat thread

 No.506104

>>480339
You mean https://8chan.moe/ebon/ ?
It works fine for me.


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