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560 posts and 94 image replies omitted.>>729542“Fatherlessness” is an overused excuse for male dysfunction.
A lot of these shallow hive minded males they all had male figures in their lives.
They had dads, uncles, grandpas, etc.
The male elders just simply impose their dead-and-gone generational zeitgeist onto male youth.
Also, “obsession with fashion” isn’t inherently feminine.
There’s a difference between having an eye for being dapper and wasting hundred dollars on latest edition hip-hop sport shoes.
This idea that masculinity is supposed to be antithetical to self-beauty is part of the machismo problem.
Yet ironically machismo is obsessed with fashion but more in the “trad” sense than anything.
>>729366Posts like these stay up?
>>729549Mods should just delete every other post just because.
>>729556We should fire the whole mod team and turn this place into a patron-run place.
Seriously
These mods are either weak willed or vindictive, mostly both.
>>729549Because that is the official /leftypol/ position: Racism, misogyny, transphobia, whatever is kosher as long as you're targeting the right people.
>>729560>the right people They think anyone who disagrees with them is “right wing”
>>729546>machismo is obsessed with fashion but more in the “trad” sense than anythingI beg to differ. It applies to a reinvented form of machismo, one analog to the "trad wife" trend.
>>729562Have you ever seen old gentlemans product adverts?
Or how in tribal societies, high vale men wore their respective ethnocultural dapper fashion.
>>729549Do you think right-wingers deserve respect?
>>729502Nah, my parents are married and they are both boomers.
>>729568Respect is a spook.
Just another form of sociophysical control.
>>729546>“Fatherlessness” is an overused excuse for male dysfunction.Well in this particular case it's true. YNs are what happens when you put the spirit of a woman in the body of a man.
>A lot of these shallow hive minded males they all had male figures in their lives.True, I think certain societies and cultures as a whole are certainly more feminized than others. Look at Asian cultures, also notorious for domineering women and absentee fathers, even if they're still living in the same house. What I hear about Japan, the dude barely shows up and when he does the woman dominates him, so they're practically raised fatherless.
>>729582I mean, maybe hive-mind is too pejorative. But that's the nature of women, women are built to adapt to whatever social group their thrust into. You know that women are naturally much better at learning languages than men? For 10s of thousands of years women are taken into this social order or that one as they're taken as spoils of war. You know they say in our genetic record, during the neolithic, that we can see that there was 1 man reproducing for every 20 woman or something like that.
I think that's also why there is this whole issue of men feeling out of place in modern society, because society is a woman's natural playing field. They're built to do all this gay triangulating, trend-chasing, social games and shit.
And speaking on the father thing, what would be a good or natural relationship from father to son? I think naturally the father would take his son under his wing and take him on his hunts, or teach him his trade. That's the natural positive relationship with a father. The father takes on the son as his disciple as he starts coming of age.
(Sexist idpol) >>729212i envy you
>I was planning on moving to the USi'd say that's a bad idea but you do you
>>729587>I think that's also why there is this whole issue of men feeling out of place in modern society, because society is a woman's natural playing field. They're built to do all this gay triangulating, trend-chasing, social games and shitYou’re sounding like a typical right wing solipsist.
Modern society isnt gyno-cratic in the slightest.
It does coddle women but it’s because it’s MEN who ABSOLVE women of their own transgressions rather than making them reliable stable adults.
Also, what is your definition of a woman?
Is it a human female in her teens and twenties and early thirties? Or is it a female human over thirty-five.
Men are subconsciously hebephilic in their impression of women.
Young women get more sympathy than older women.
That is, if said young women are light-skinned, slim, curvy, cutesy-mannered, and agreeable.
Young women whom are none of those things are treated as defective.
Society is not a playing field exclusively for women. Only solipsism’s like yourself think so.
If men were to be removed from the earth, leaving women behind, you’ll see how “natural” the playing field is.
Blame chivalry, not feminism.
In fact if anything, feminism is the prodigal daughter of patriarchy
>>729582>Well in this particular case it's true. YNs are what happens when you put the spirit of a woman in the body of a man.What is YN?
And what is “putting a woman in a man’s body”? Why do you equate femininity with masculine defection?
Masculinity and femininity are not mutually defective.
Feminine defection is not “masculine”
>True, I think certain societies and cultures as a whole are certainly more feminized than others. Look at Asian cultures, also notorious for domineering women and absentee fathers, even if they're still living in the same house. What I hear about Japan, the dude barely shows up and when he does the woman dominates him, so they're practically raised fatherless.Irony is, masculinity prioritizes submission to authority as proper.
Also, Asian cultures were ruthless to women. Footbinding, neck-stretching, etc
Also, Asian culture promotes submission as natural for both genders.
And Asian cultures are notorious for domineering dads as well, not just moms.
Absentee fathers are because of overworking.
>>728795>I mean, maybe hive-mind is too pejorative. But that's the nature of women, women are built to adapt to whatever social group their thrust into.That’s because men infantilize them
>You know that women are naturally much better at learning languages than men? Because women are over assigned in social roles especially as receptionists so of course. And especially since schooling is more lenient with girls than boys.
They say women are terrible at depth perception and math and driving.
Yet most of my math teachers were women. Most of my bus drivers were women.
>For 10s of thousands of years women are taken into this social order or that one as they're taken as spoils of war. They were also killed en masse .
>You know they say in our genetic record, during the neolithic, that we can see that there was 1 man reproducing for every 20 woman or something like that.Maybe because women die in childbirth? Also I need evidence that a minority of men reproduced. Again, miscarriages, infanticide and record-blotting and even disowning.
>>729587>And speaking on the father thing, what would be a good or natural relationship from father to son? I think naturally the father would take his son under his wing and take him on his hunts, or teach him his trade. That's the natural positive relationship with a father. The father takes on the son as his disciple as he starts coming of age.If you read history, you’d know that it was mainly village elders who taught boys and girls their respective gender-maturational roles, not the parents solely.
Also, no offense, but fathers shouldn’t be allowed to raise kids by themselves, especially sons. They often abuse or neglect or smother them for having personhood.
(Fathers coddle their daughters though)
If I was left in the hands of my own dad for tutelage, Id have to kill him, kill my self, or have him kill me.
Also, most fathers are naturally terrible life coaches anyway by themselves.
The same things they condemn you for failing state the same flaws they have.
>>729614>Maybe because women die in childbirth? What? That would have the opposite effect wouldn't it.
>Also I need evidence that a minority of men reproduced. Again, miscarriages, infanticide and record-blotting and even disowning.The evidence is in our genome.
https://www.sciencealert.com/neolithic-y-chromosome-bottleneck-warring-patrilineal-clans>Around 7,000 years ago - all the way back in the Neolithic - something really peculiar happened to human genetic diversity. Over the next 2,000 years, and seen across Africa, Europe and Asia, the genetic diversity of the Y chromosome collapsed, becoming as though there was only one man for every 17 women.
>Now, through computer modelling, researchers believe they have found the cause of this mysterious phenomenon: fighting between patrilineal clans. >>729614>They were also killed en masse .Sometimes, but if you actually read history, you'd know it was common practice to take slave wives.
>>729616I don’t live in the ghetto, I merely visit there for weed and pussy.
Also, it depends on what geographic region
The ghettos in the boonies are not as dapper as in the city.
And southern ghetto folk tend to be more oblivious and unable to retain their money compared to northern ghetto folk
>>729619There’s been previous science publications that said blacks and Asians had smaller brains.
There also were science publications that said that dinosaurs had feathers.
There also were science publications that promoted spontaneous generation.
>What? That would have the opposite effect wouldn't it.And yet, it was common.
Why else did men take multiple wives?
>Sometimes, but if you actually read history, you'd know it was common practice to take slave wives.Probably because those women were young, fertile, and maybe virginal. If said women were past their late thirties and already had kids, they’d be killed and the kids would sold off or sodomized.
>>729156As someone who has hung around bad bitches, you don’t want none of that.
They’re not as badass as you think they are.
They’re pushy and mean but in the selfish way.
The only good bad bitches are law abiding punk fashion girls who are helluva actresses
>>729700Yeah why not. The more women drive off men the sooner we could decouple ourselves from women. Men and women should go their own ways if they want to
>>729700She's mad at her ex. Next.
Am I fucked as a 33-year-old virgin man? I've never seriously pursued romantic or sexual relationships largely due to a total lack of self-esteem and I've managed to fuck up any opportunity where a woman may have been interested in me due to my terrible anxiety and awkwardness so now I feel almost alien as a man in his 30s who's never really been on a date or even kissed a woman. I worry that if I ever did date a woman she'd think I was weird or an incel or some shit.
I don't know, posting here solely because I don't feel comfortable posting it anywhere else.
>>729707im a bit older and in the same boat. Ive just channeled the sexual frustration into a hatred of all american women specifically.
>>729707I think once you reach 30 without ever dating or having sex you'll probably need to do something more extreme to get any. I'm 41 and have never dated or anything. I'm way beyond a late bloomer
gf came over and fell asleep instantly. she says she's been feeling bad "because she has no friends" and its not about us but she seems really distant. why do i only end up with women more mentally ill than me???
>>729708I'm aware, but thanks anyway.
>>729710I may hate society, the media, and God, but I don't hate women as a whole.
>>729710I guess I can get used to it as long as my subconscious just gives up.
>>729717>I'm aware, but thanks anyway.I'm just fucking around. But real shit. Just don't tell people that. If you have to, fucking lie. I really am against lying, but people are fucking judgemental and if I told you to tell the truth to them expecting positive outcomes I'd be lying to you.
>>729707>Am I fucked as a 33-year-old virgin man?And no, I don't think so. I mean, what held you back all these years? Obviously the main thing is doing something different. Obviously your situation won't change unless you do something different.
>>729719Think about it like a job application and interview. Are you going to tell you interviewer you've been unemployed since age 18? No. You know what time is.
>>729718Nah man I get that, sorry if I came across like an ass.
I could lie I guess but I don't know that I would want to enter a relationship with someone I have to lie to. Maybe though.
>>729719>I mean, what held you back all these years?For the first half of my life it was a crippling lack of self-esteem where I thought no woman would ever like me. For the second half I guess it's still the lack of self-esteem as well as becoming maladjusted perhaps. Imageboards have also made me weirder I think and I'm definitely more neurotic.
Also I just have no idea how to meet women as an adult.
>>729726>Imageboards have also made me weirder I think and I'm definitely more neurotic.Same…. yet here I am, a leftypol oldfriend.
>>729729Tbf, every social media platform is probably making everyone weirder. Pick your poison.
>>729726>Also I just have no idea how to meet women as an adult.I keep saying, to the shut-in guys is they should focus on making more friends first. Just try befriending people. If you can't handle making friends with random people, there is no way you have the social skills to date.
>>729732And if you have friends, they will try to set you up with tgeir single friends often.
>>729732Fair enough, though I've never been good at befriending people either.
I'm starting to think I was destined to be alone.
Hi /srg/ im here to ask if im the asshole
>be living with gf as a bum, no job, gf works and makes about six figures. doesn't go far because canada
>we're playing minecraft, a beta mod
>it's actually going pretty good. this is her first time ever playing the game
>we find diamonds on the first day
>i reside in-game about 400 in-game meters away; this is like a three-minute journey across a waterfront and around a bend into an inlet, basically.
>gf made house next to spawn
>gf has spent almost entire session of like an hour and a half digging to the bottom of the map, creating her own little mineshaft in the process
>i decided to create a new home for myself about 800 in-game meters away, which would be an about six-minute journey from where my gf resided
>finish house, very proud of it.
>decide i want to show gf house before pushing to invite her to see my house
>gf arises from her house
>this is where shit goes down
>it's midmorning in-game because the in-game clock tells me [we can't see coordinates unless that someone has a compass, or in-game time unless the player in question has a clock]
>also, the sun goes from east to west
>gf has to basically go north to the coast, head left/west, and then bank right under a little land-overpass to where my base is.
>she's being chased by a creeper; in-game enemy that will destroy her and her shit if it touches her, so she has to run to the shore.
>this is fine - but if she goes south she'll hit another shore and may go there with no idea where she's going and little way to find her way home. it nearly looks identical
>the only way to avoid this is to look up at the sun and see what direction it's heading in, because you can actually see it move from east-to-west in real time.
>we acknowledge she couldn't do that because of the creeper, but when she got to the coast and was under the safety of the ocean like 20 seconds later, she didn't do this
>this is my first piece of advice to my gf, and even though she was given such, she ignored it. ok. whatever.
>she fucks around and sails around what I presume to be the southern coast. gets fucking lost. ok.
>i suggest to make a map, she begrudgingly does. ok, second piece of advice is taken, thank u
>she keeps fucking around and can't find her way home. she gets out of her boat and goes on-land
>it's been like, 10 minutes, night falls and I decide to go to her house and sleep to skip the night
>all the while im not playing the game, im just waiting for her to find her way back. i even changed the meet-up spot in-game from my house, to her house, to make the process faster and easier.
>im getting annoyed, i get up and go to her and try to help her. I'm obviously approaching with an annoyed tone. I suggest to retrace her steps and she says she doesn't remember. I let out some exhausted groans and whinging
>gf reaches for power button of computer it's like 11:30 I wanted to get off when she saw my house but ok
>hard shuts-down pc, may have destroyed the server files in the process. part of me prays they weren't because i like playing minecraft with her on that world and part of me does so I can exemplify that she acted immature and out-of-line and consequentially destroyed something we both like, simply… to be pissy??
>we have a modest argument over this as gf decides it's time for bed, brushes her teeth while i desperately try to explain that she kind of did wrong me here
>she basically tells me to fuck off and goes to bed as i stand stunned
thank you for reading now to preemptively defend myself
<why u mead is only a game
this is something my gf did say to me [in spirit]. the game and circumstances may not have a lasting bearing on our material lives, but the people behind the things that transpired in the game continue to exist. what happened in the game was mostly our choice, and our responses to what happened are reflections of ourselves- they literally *are* ourselves.
<ok so what did she even do to wrong you
the fact of the matter is that I wanted to do X [see my shitty minecraft house] with my girlfriend, while my girlfriend either did a really shitty, borderline malignant job of upholding her end of X - or my gf wanted to do Y [fuck around in the woods], and didn't communicate that with me, and escalated the situation.
she ignored my advice except for making a map - something which she already had hitherto but lost because of her first experience dying to a monster and losing her items because she couldn't get them back in time. she got extremely mad when i was getting frustrated that what was supposed to be an eight-minute jaunt to show her something i was proud of turned into a fucking ordeal, featuring the ignorance of someone who unironically thinks she knows more than others [which to be fair, a lot of the time, she does.]
notwithstanding is the fact that she really did hurt my feelings by just raging out at me and going to bed. this is the first night in a long, long, long time i haven't said "i love you" before we gone to sleep. what hurts more is that this is another fight in a series of daily arguments we've had for the past week and a half. and this time, i think i'm actually… not the one in the wrong here.
im mostly consoling all of you to make sure i have a right to push for an apology and recognition that she kind of did make the problem worse, because if i do that and she escalates than it may put the relationship into jeopardy.
>>729700I don't avoid women. but I do deny them my essence. women see men, and they seek the essence
>>729753Tldr. At least you've had sex and that's all that matters
>>729700This is why I don’t listen to white female pundits anymore.
How to actually create a Tinder profile without giving half-way thru because it all feels meaningless?
>>729710It’s the same for under 22 tbh
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