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why the fuck do westoids have awful reasons to hate japan? i hate japan too because of its imperialist nature and capitalist economic system. but i never understood the people who claim they hate japan, and it’s because of pedophilia and rape, and the pedo or rape in question are just drawings instead of pulling up actual statistics of pedophilia or rape being normalized in that nation. all i know is that misogyny and racism are a problem in japan so there’s probably a hint already that pedophilia and rape are also normalized in japan as well. this isn’t trying to defend japan or whatever but im rather concerned about how they’re not being critical when criticizing a nation like japan

>why do westoids assume facts about the world based entirely on consumption of a narrow spectrum of media
it's a mystery to us all

bump

I hate Japan because I want a depressed leftover salarywoman GF but can’t get one. Literally all I want is to give my big breasted salarywoman GF paizuri and tell her that everything will be alright (it won’t, capitalism won)

>>720391

i stopped taking western “feminists” seriously because all they do is get mad at cartoons and not the misogyny part. i feel like if it was ww2 again. western progressives would’ve supported japan’s bombing

>>720324
It's because they have the correct intuition but don't know how to express it via material analysis.

Twitter people are racist and want Japan to be The Rape Nation so they can fight them as an effigy of their own sexual desires.

This is a non-issue outside of twitter.

>>720453

kind of disagree. i came across people outside of twitter who claims to hate the app that also believes pedophilia is normalized in japan even though i heard of 0 negative experiences from people in japan so far. i just know misogyny and sexualization of young girls (presumably adults) are unfortunately common. but not sexual abuse of minors. after doing research though i realized how commonly underreported rape is in japan including “chikan”which is an act of molestation due to their misogynistic culture including how common SA also is in japan in general. i’ve heard of japanese women speaking up against pedophilia but for the most part it’s over the fact that loli in drawings is legalized in japan (which is ironic considering the fact it’s common for women to draw loli/shota nsfw as
far as i know) and not predators visiting japan due to its low age of consent or comparing real kids to drawings. i just think the zoomers in the west is mad they can’t get away with harming children unless they’re an adult because of ageism so they resort to racism instead as a way to cope

>>720602

just to add onto this. i do think libs on twitter spread their racist beliefs even further by going after tik tok first, reaching across platforms cause they have an acc out of twitter or tik tok, which is why it’s common to see tik tokers, facebookers, and instagramers be stupid as fuck

>>720393
If the USSR liberated Japan I would have this…. the Amercians are so evil

>i hate japan too
Why do we need to hate other nations tho

>>720453
not related but whats with calling people the Raped "humor" i see popping up occasionally. does it have origins somewhere since it seems kind of odd

>>720615
Earliest I saw of it was Onision videos on early YouTube

You're a retard

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>but i never understood the people who claim they hate japan, and it’s because of pedophilia and rape, and the pedo or rape in question are just drawings instead

vaus.h, is this you?

>>720629
>>720621

radlibs found this post. time to scurry

>>720398
>>720453
>>720602
>>720603
What's with so many modern Westie leftoids sucking up to Japan? Is it because of all the goonfuel they make? Are they still seen as hecking oppressed BIPOCerinos? Do you think that they'll be the first ones to achieve gay space communism?

>>720681

what in the 4chan is this post and i don’t affiliate myself with any political ideology xd

>>720681
>Is it because of all the goonfuel they make?
it's not like Japan is unique in making drawn smut, it's just western drawn smut had a reputation for being kinda ugly up until recently.
>Are they still seen as hecking oppressed BIPOCerinos
I don't speak twitter but I can dicern you're talking about race from "BIPOC." In regards to my post specifically >>720453 I'm just pointing out that twitter people are algorithmically incentivized to rave about idpol nonsense, and this can get a bit freudian. Just see those 3 or so chuds that killed themselves due to BBC induced depression recently.
>Do you think that they'll be the first ones to achieve gay space communism?
Nah that's China, but chances are Japan will become part of China soon anyway, since China is outcompeting them at the whole anime thing.

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>>720675
>finding jacking off to cartoon children suspicious = radlib

>>720764
>t. Radlib

>>720764

i’m an abuse victim myself and got preyed upon as well and find it disrespectful when people compare my experiences to drawings instead of focusing on real abuse in the matter

>>720697
>>720718
>>720768
>>720778
You fuckers are willing to overlook a reactoid one-party dictatorship that tried to slaughter half of Asia and Oceania and had plans to do the same in LatAm just because the smut they make makes your peckers hard… Why are you even on Leftypol?
What has this become but s treatcel dump…

>>721592

nobody’s doing that. this reply is so delusional i started smiling in real life

>>720324
>just drawings
and sounds…and VR…and body pillows…the degeneracy is truly endless

>>721648
none of these are real, triggering fee fees and hating on the ebil degeneracy that has no effect on the real world are just cuckoldry from christian brainwashing, does not matter if it changed from pokemon to fucking porn.

>>721592
What of my post >>720718 vaugely resembles that? Japan is nothing in the current geopolitical landscape. Japan will be part of China within 20 years from now. Japan is not unique in making smut and communists reject ALL bourgoise morality. You will be forced to goon to one (1) loli drawing per day to access The People's Toothbrush.

>>721638
Everyone is doing that.
>>721734
So CSAM would be commonplace then? Only bourgeoisie moralfags make laws against production and proliferation of CP.

>>721951
CSAM requires power structures where children can be abused in the first place. Abolish the family and have the state raise kids, and there won't be parents to whore them out, and it'll be significantly harder to kidnap them.

>>721951
CSAM is one of those terms that I immediately write off whoever uses it as a dumb liberal who doesn't think about the terms they use at all and just parrots others.

>>721970
do you actually have a reason to do so besides being an edgy contrarian

>>721991
They probably use twitter, where people really are like that, so their stance has been validated (fossilized) through algorithmically controlled affirmation.
>>721970
If I assumed correctly, get off twitter and touch digital grass.
>>721951
>Without morality, CSAM will run rampant somehow, so we must become counter-revolutionarien to protect the kids.
Ethics have long since solved this, no morality needed. Read Stirner.

>>721994
>They probably use twitter, where people really are like that, so their stance has been validated (fossilized) through algorithmically controlled affirmation.
how do you even conceive that from a term alone, you should touch actual physical grass

>>721991
Its not just "material", as if its just downloaded for no real reason, its consumed because its pornography. Why would it even be recorded and spread online if it wasn't pornography?? Why is it so wrong to accurately label it to where you need to make up some corporate-speak alternative using terms like "material" to avoid actually describing anything.
The argument is always that pornography is actually ethically made, so its not "real" pornography. But since when has that been the case? Why does the porn industry deserve that distinction? Does anyone earnestly believe that? Has anyone ever said that Deep Throat (1972) isn't real porn? People only follow along because they see everyone else use it and they don't want to be the diddyahhblud not using less accurate and more bloated terminology like everyone else in the woke crowd.

>>722002
>its consumed because its pornography
pornography is also a kind of recorded "material"
labeling it CSAM is meant to bring more weight to the "child sexual abuse" part than to "porn" part, it's pretty accurately describing what is happening in the recorded material
>The argument is always that pornography is actually ethically made
honestly i don't believe that either

>>722002
I think "material" means recorded to a medium. Like you got a tape of something or digital file equivelant to one.
Like liveleaks would be "snuff material" or "animal abuse material."

>>722003
>pornography is also a kind of recorded "material"
So is security cam footage, all recordings are "material". But its not downloaded to serve some archival purpose, or any purpose aside from pornographic ones. So why is it so bad to just accurately use "porn" instead of "material".
If anything it would underline exactly what the possessor was doing, to me "CSAM" reads like making possession seem like it could just be someone documenting the dark side of the human condition, like when LiveLeak had the slogan "Documenting reality". All those gore sites say that they're just serving an archival purpose rather than the reality of just being a place for people to get an emotional thrill.

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>>722006
>making possession seem like it could just be someone documenting the dark side of the human condition
Peter Sotos would like to have a word with you. he got arrested for CSAM possession & distribution even if he intended to "showcase the dark side of the human condition", people to this day are debating whether he actually wanked to the material or he's just that edgy (Whitehouse called him out as a "boring heterosexual" though and I agree, edgy but not disruptive)
>All those gore sites say that they're just serving an archival purpose
you don't seem to believe this either, so why argue for CSAM being read as "archival"?

>>722010
Peter Sotos is the same guy who made books consisting of the transcript of gonzo porn, so I don't think his stint with CP has anything to do with it not necessarily being pornographic. He is all about the depravity shown in porn, I only read one of his books but it had the transcript of a porn film where a dude was trying to get a hooker to eat his shit.
>you don't seem to believe this either, so why argue for CSAM being read as "archival"?
I'm just saying that if you're making a new term to really make sure that its unambiguous what crime is committed, I don't see the point in losing the intention behind the production/consumption is. Of course we all know what CP/CSAM is, but if you're going to reword it, why does it need to become something more vague like "material" when the previous term described the intention more.

>>721951

please provide proof then since i don’t live on the internet unlike you. and if drawings are “csem” then i guess we should give drawings legal rights and put focus on them over children

>>722017
>He is all about the depravity shown in porn [regarding books]
trve… however his audio works (there are 3 full albums + some singular tracks he did for Whitehouse when he was a member, he also worked on some of the lyrics but I can't remember which tracks in particular were co-written with Sotos. I think the hooker eating shit story was used in the Quality Time title track among other things WB was interested in at the time, like NLP/Scientology stuff) are a "critique of mass media reporting on child sexual abuse" and contain no CSAM recordings, just interview recordings of SA victims
>I don't see the point in losing the intention behind the production/consumption is.
I think the intention can be derived from the content itself pretty clearly in my opinion, the point is to bring more attention to the "child sexual abuse"
also "child porn" is already somewhat of a meme phrase, however warped that is

>>720764
>cartoon children are the same as real carnations of children but gore in fiction isn’t the same as gore in reality


this is blowing up. thank you for the attention guys

>>722232
You forgot to attach the gigachad image

>>722232

you would probably arrest someone over drawings if you had the chance


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>>722245

truth nuke. also check out "The Puritanical Eye: Hyper-mediation, Sex on Film, and the Disavowal of Desire"

>>722238
>>722239
>>722245
>>722699
>more pedophiles
Total Lolicon and Shotacon Death can't come soon enough.

>>720324
I guess some racism is at play there. Pedophilia (within limits) is seen as normal in pre-modern society in general. Europeans until not so long ago were just as much tolerant of pedophilia than Japanese. E.g. in original Hunchback of Notre Dame (not Disney bastardisation) Frollo is horrified and ashamed at himself for being attracted to Esmeralda because he's a Catholic priest to the degree where it drives him crazy and eventually kills everyone… but no one whatsoever, including author/narrator, bats an eye on Esmeralda being 16 (and Frollo ~40).

>>723183
Since Europeans were the first to modernise their societies, they were the first to condemn and outlaw such attractions and relatonships, while the rest of the world trails behind. Therefore "Japanese/Asians in general are uniquely pedophilic" is the subset of the "These nonwhites are savages in the ways we whites never were!" racist myth.

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People refute "thing, Japan" theory by citing the mandatory camera shutter noise and women-only trains. But doesn't that only prove "thing, Japan" theory? I wish my country had mandatory camera shutter noises. And I'm sure the women in my country would greatly appreciate women-only trains.

>>724706
Lol no, those are terrible

>>724730
how so?

>>724732
Women only train just will mean men get stuffed into more crowded train, and I turned off shutter noise cause it's annoying, I take pics of things that I think are funny to send to BF and I don't want to make a big spectacle while doing it

>>724706
>mandatory camera shutter
either complied with out of politeness (aka not mandatory) or a wedge to advantage closed source software.
>women only trains
Cishet moment.

That said yeah things are generally improving in japan, if Japan decided to finally have some dignity and rejoin China it'd be a pretty great place. Until then the only thing that spoils it is that it's a corporate hell island with little union presence.

>>724706
the point is that japanese males are so rapey that these things *need* to exist in order for society to even function over there. other countries dont need it

>>720602
>i came across people outside of twitter who claims to hate the app that also believes pedophilia is normalized in japan even though i heard of 0 negative experiences from people in japan so far.
Duh, they're not kids, they don't have kids or they don't take their kids to Japan, of course they won't have creepy fat weebs following them around asking how mentally mature the kids are.
>>720718
>it's just western drawn smut had a reputation for being kinda ugly up until recently.
Only if you're a weeb.
>>721957
>Abolish the family and have the state raise kids,
You think pedophiles can't worm their way into the system?
>>721970
Retard.
>>721994
>Ethics have long since solved this, no morality needed. Read Stirner.
Guy would more likely than not say that arresting pedophiles is a spook and your ethics are no different from bourgeois morality.

>>724781

>course they won't have creepy fat weebs following them around asking how mentally mature the kids are.

the website is ran by weebs and anime lovers and also populated with such. also morality is a spook

>your ethics are no different from bourgeois morality.

the word “bourgeois” loss its meaning just like the words “woke” and “puritan”

>>724791
What website?

mandatory

>>724794

leftypol. also i meant to say “this”. i apologize for any confusion

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>>724791
>the word “bourgeois” loss its meaning just like the words “woke” and “puritan”
"Bourgeois morality" refers to the fact that morality is inherently a product of the superstructure that arises from and maintains the bourgeois base. That morality will not persist in a meaningful capacity after the base is drastically changed to one that is no longer bourgeois.

Ethics are morals are mutually exclusive, because if something is done for moral reasons, it's already unethical.
>>724781
>Guy would more likely than not say that arresting pedophiles is a spook
Instead, change the material conditions that led to them sexually assaulting a kid. Prisons are bourgeois nonsense.

Putting someone that engages in anti-social behavior doesn't fix the root cause of that anti-social behavior. Instead it just ensures a supply of people to put in boxes, allowing capitalists to have a guaranteed supply of slave labor, among other "benefits" for the bourgeois superstructure and base.

If someone is detained under socialism, the whole duration of that detainment will be spent diagnosing the issues that led to that behavior, fixing it, then letting everyone involved get back to normal activities with any accommodations and safeguards necessary in place. No longer than that. Otherwise you believe that pedophilia is an essence and thus you would not be a materialist.

>>724874
Your ideology is overpowering actual facts in your analysis. There is no "pedophile conversion therapy".
>Otherwise you believe that pedophilia is an essence and thus you would not be a materialist.
Practically all modern research points to it being unchangeable and originating in the womb.

>>724885
Well then get them to be researchers / at least keep them at research facilities to figure out what conditions causes that to happen in the womb. Every minute a pedophile rots in jail is another minute not spent making a vaccine or whatever for it. It's still ultimately going to be a material conditions thing, in or out of the womb.

>>724791
What's your justification for catching child predators? Seems like every reason is "le bourgeois moralfagging".

>>725035
NTA but:
1) If you have an area where people have to spend mental resources fending off assailants, sexual or otherwise, work done in that area is far less efficient. It is ethical, not moral, to prohibit people in an area where work is done from committing acts of assault against each other so they can focus on things other than self-defense.
2) temporary detainment of an assailant can prevent streaks of offenses and allow diagnosis of the issue that led to the assault, and put preventative measures in place going forward.

>>724874
You think people go on to rape kids because they live in a KKKrapitalist dystopia and they'd be wholesome smol beans if the world was socialist?
>>725043
>Muh productivity and line goes up but socialist
Get outta here crakka.

>>725062
>unga bunga me have big stick and care not morals or productivity
<fried by laser from nearby socialist fusion powered mobile city.
Who knew higher modes of production concern themselves with raising productivity while minimizing labor and resources required to achieve said productivity.

>>725062
Also:
>You think people go on to rape kids because they live in a KKKrapitalist dystopia and they'd be wholesome smol beans if the world was socialist?
Yes.

Japan is no longer an imperial state except when its vassal overlord, the US, wants to drag them into a conflict. The normalization of pedophilia probably has ties to the way the U.S. has used them as a sex tourism spot in the past and the way in which prostitution is normalized. Japan is a fucked up place culturally and the U.S. probably has a lot to do with it, but it’s hard to find much research on explicit influences being former empire and comprador state has had. I suspect that’s purposeful. People pointing out its pedophilic impulses you see online is typically backlash to the weird orientalism and idealization certain foreign otaku or weebs have about the country. It’s not surprising.

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*a mysterious figure emerges from the shadows*

nobunaga : m-master…

??? : i have a mission for you, nobunaga-san… you must wage war agaisnt the other warlords and unite the island of japan, there you must build a nation in my image

nobunaga : yes sir…

??? : do not disappoint me…. son..

the responses under this post i made reeks of the mentally ill it’s awesome

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>>720324
> and it’s because of pedophilia and rape, and the pedo or rape in question are just drawings instead of pulling up actual statistics of pedophilia or rape being normalized in that nation
Why do you think they have an "artistic" obsession with the topic? Japan only illegalized child pornography in 2014!. The cartoon porn and the real commercial child pornography they used to produce and sell commercial child pornography until 1999!

The Rurouni Kenshin mangaka got caught with child pornography.
https://kotaku.com/rurouni-kenshin-creator-charged-with-possessing-child-p-1820633519

You don't think that a lot of these mangakas who make the loli rape mangas don't also beat their meat to really CP? Maybe you're telling the truth, that you're a cartoon only CP guy, but the two are very much connected.

>>725286
>the responses under this post i made reeks of the mentally ill it’s awesome
Your post was total shit. You just gave a half-assed shower thought with no clear point or throughline.

>all i know is that misogyny and racism are a problem in japan so there’s probably a hint already that pedophilia and rape are also normalized in japan as well.

Lol and your main point was supposed to be that people were making an uninformed criticism of Japan and then you just straight up admit you have no idea what you're talking about?

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>no you see the child porn is drawn.

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>>725288
What's with you weeb freaks pushing this idea that you can't judge someone based off of the "art" they consume or that "art" might reflect their own beliefs or reinforce, or even negatively influence them. Like if some guy told you his favorite "art" is the Turner Diaries, Stonetoss, MDE, Ben Garrison, etc. You wouldn't draw any conclusions from that? Would you say it's wrong to make that inference about that person's character and beliefs?

>>725290
>"art"
Have no clue or care what ya'll are babbling about in this thread but Tactical Patricia Taxxon video be upon thee, randian objectivist reactionary.

>>725292
>Have no clue or care what ya'll are babbling about in this thread but
why would anyone need to read anything after that? lol.

>>725290
Turner Diaries is about a particular real-world philosophy, not a sexual fantasy, lol

>>725288
>>725289

you guys need to be either be thrown into insane asylums or perhaps seek employment by treating fictional discourse a culture war. or “we vs us” thing. just shows this place is full of psychotic and insane middle class individuals. but i never really cared about this place when i came back to this thread again. i have better things to do than to just argue with people whose brain are small by indulging in online activism for fictional drawings

>>725327
oxymoron

>>725411
Bruh you're never going to convince anyone that you're not very sus for wanking it to drawn CP. Why is this an absolute crusade for you people? You literally won't rest until we all approve of your predilection.

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>>725637
>Bruh you're never going to convince anyone that you're not very sus for wanking it to drawn CP.
If they wanted to do that they'd go on twitter. People that touch digital grass don't think about that 24/7.
>You literally won't rest until we all approve of your predilection.
It's like the evangelical vs pious atheist conundrum, both work together to hijack any space where it isn't a hot topic and make it such: even resorting to posting twitter screenshots to export the discourse when there is no effective opening.

This is not a thing outside of centralized social media and immediate periphery. The reason people with niche interests feel compelled to have their interests "accepted" online is because they refuse to leave centralized social media, so they have to dominate to be normalized or else the abnormality of it sparks discourse.
Before centralized social media this was not a framework people thought under. If someone was into or was indifferent to something, they'd just go to a forum or webring where said stuff was allowed or was of primary focus, or just post about it on their own site. Someone that wasn't into that thing would nearly never willingly go to said places, and so clashes wouldn't happen at nearly the scale they do now.
This is the same reason bronies were the first fandom to be annoying about it: they arrived just as the core web gained critical mass and consumed most of people's activity online. They posted about ponies to centralized social media and people that weren't into it didn't know how to cope with content they weren't personally into showing up on screen. They got harassment, so they counterattacked, in a loop, forever.

tl:dl; anti-lolishos and lolishos that get into arguments with them are twitter addicts and should touch digital grass.

>>725655

thanks for the explanation. i try not to argue with anti loisho people but too many moralfags keeps visiting a thread that makes them angry

>>725667
You started a discussion on a topic and I gave my opinion on it you weeb faggot.

>>725655
>This is not a thing outside of centralized social media and immediate periphery
i think that if you told someone irl that you masturbate to drawn cp theyd also be weirded out

>>725669
>i think that if you told someone irl that you masturbate to drawn cp theyd also be weirded out
Has it occurred to you that someone simply wouldn't do that? That you don't need to dump a complete manilla folder of your interests, dislikes, disabilities and medical information, etc… onto every stranger?

>>725670
>Has it occurred to you that someone simply wouldn't do that? That you don't need to dump a complete manilla folder of your interests, dislikes, disabilities and medical information, etc… onto every stranger?
That's what we're telling you fucking pedo freak. We're stranger and you're here demanding our approval.

>>725677
>you fucking pedo freak
meds, get off twitter. Not everyone that disagrees with you is some secret pedophile.

>>725680
You're not going to gaslight anyone here. Again I ask, why do you demand we approve of your perversions?

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>>725683
I'm not the anon you're talking about, I'm this anon:
>>725655
>>725670
>>725680
…and don't feel like figuring out who did make that demand in this thread.

So once again I'll ask, without regard for your deflection: what base would maintain this discourse if centralized social media and it's immediate periphery collapsed? What would be the play-by-play of one (1) of such interactions, since >>725669 already proved preposterous.

>>725668

this website is ran by weebs and the mascot is literally a catgirl drawn in the anime-esque art style. either go back to reddit or twitter edgelord please and thank u

>>720324
>why the fuck do westoids have awful reasons to hate japan? i hate japan too because of its imperialist nature and capitalist economic system

good for you? i just hate sake and think anime is mid

>but i never understood the people who claim they hate japan, and it’s because of pedophilia and rape, and the pedo or rape in question are just drawings instead of pulling up actual statistics of pedophilia or rape being normalized in that nation.


uygha they have women only trains because of how much sexual harassment and assault happens on their subways

Critical support for lolicons in their struggle against western moralism.

>>725719

women only trains don’t do shit and doesn’t help women either. they should just kill rapists instead i dunno. otherwise cishet moment

>good for you? i just hate sake and think anime is mid

boring asf + nobody asked about your opinion on anime either

>>724736
countries that isnty japan also has a major rape problem too. wtf is this wired ass racist radfem take

isnt*

>>726001
>women only trains don’t do shit and doesn’t help women either. they should just kill rapists instead i dunno
Anything but figuring out what material conditions are causing the problem and fixing that.

Isn't like japans rape rate one of the lowest on this planet so this whole groomer/women only trains discussion is useless because it clearly worked and women and children are save in japan?

>>726693
Rape and sexual harassment are underreported over there, just like homicide. And the creepy old men haven't stopped growing teens and young women at all - have you heard of "chikan"?

>>726693
Yeah, there can be creepy stalkers in Japan but the only people raping anyone at a huge degree in Japan are US soldiers.
>>726741
Sexual assaults will always be underreported sadly since victims are usually dependent on their assaulters. But we do have an independent matrix here: sexual assault against lone female travellers, who are not subject to the same strutural forces as a local woman. And, for an overwhelming majority, it is safe for lone female travellers to be in Japanese trains!
(It is safe to be a female traveller in Afghanistan too, but we're talking about law and order here rather than societal treatment to women)

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>>726320

rape is bad. cry about it

nothing wrong with women only trains, they also allow children and the elderly of either gender to ride them and they are typically far less crowded so safer for all

>>726747
>infinite rape forever but I get to feel good about playing whack-a-mole.

>>726741
Do they also underreport their murder rate?

I've seen some twitter libs trying to tell me that japan is a dystopia because people dont scream into their phones on the subway and they have a drink after their shift ends. Also they somehow have the highest rape rate because the dark figure is much higher than the official one (copium of the highest degree)

Honestly the only annoying thing about japan is the lack of trashcans, public and private.

>>726873
>they somehow have the highest rape rate because the dark figure is much higher than the official one
I mean isn't that a reasonable assumption. Rape and sexual assault historically have a low reporting rate, because of the associated shame. I know that in some Western countries, each effort to make reporting easier and more covert has resulted in a jump in the case rate, so if the case rate in Japan has been consistently low since forever, it is a reasonable assumption that the dark figure must be significantly higher.

>>726765

rapists are just cops without badges

>>726748

cishet moment (again)

>>726873

they’re probably western feminists too


This thread has aged like milk now that Japan has been reviving 1930s militarism with Takaichi, Takaichi even threatening to invade China all over again.

>>727122
Japan is anti imperialist again??

>>727113

i jerked off to that btw

Can we kick /pol/faggots off the site? "Le feminazis and le libs are calling my favourite hentais weird, this is le racist towards wholesome Japoonerinos" was a load of bullshit 10 years ago and it is now.

>>727219
mods you need heckin ban everyone i dont like!!

>>726973
Dude, when you get raped you go to the cops so you get tested for STDs and get the gestation of the rapebaby blocked while helping the police to find evidence against the person that did it to you.

>>727219
Sorry, but thirdworldism cope is /pol/faggotry, you are the /pol/faggot

What's wrong with women only trains and cameras having a built-in shutter noize? Why do so many people leak their clits over it? Because taking creepshots and groping young girls is part of sexual liberation and whatever?

>>727801

why are hetmoid redditors gotta be so fucking creepy whenever we criticize the shit cishet people do in society that are never going to work out well? there are better ways to handle misogyny than implementing women only trains

>>727222
no,when they get raped what most women do is shower to get rid of it (and thus,the evidence) then the police can't accept her statement

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>>720324

If you get raped by a racist pedophile in Japan, I think it's perfectly fair to harbor grudges that goes beyond 'capitalism'

>>727806
>there are better ways to handle misogyny than implementing women only trains
Such as?

>>727818
Gelding.

>>727827
Yeah, shoulda known it would be some bs non-solution.

>>727830
Okay revolution will somehow change male and female reproductive strategies. You'll still need women only spaces even after the revolution. So I basically agree with you.

>>727811

>get raped by a racist pedophile in Japan

is it bad i want this to happen to me?

>>727818
Cishet death arena
>>727850
VR means those don't need to be spaces, just channels in a chatroom.

>>727851
I want to cuddle with a Japanese pedophile in VRchat in a loli model.

>>727851
Yes it is actually.

>>727801
T. Creeper

>>727806
I hate to be a stickler but I really hate how “misogyny” has become a blanket term for any physical action against women.

Misogyny means hatred of women.
Simple as

It doesn’t mean “sexual harassment/assault”.
That’s different.

Do we refer to women assaulting men as “misandry”?

>>727882
Since you're referring to yourself, I'll say that just because you're a creep doesn't mean that others should deal with your perversity.

>>727885
How am I a creeper tho?
You said:
>because taking pantyshots of women is sexual liberation

I assumed you want that so you can have a “harem view”

>>727883
sorry pal,it's 2025,killing one woman is now called a "feminicide"

Theres no woman only carriages and photo shutter sounds in India

>>727122
are we just making shit up, the only one threatening to invade anyone is china to taiwan. japan saying it would be a security issue when china eventually throws its military at taiwan is a threat to japan

>>727922

t. incel

>>727883

discrimination/oppression, overall bigotry, and SA goes hand in hand. i don’t think it’s that deep but leftypol is full of reactionaries so

>>727877

please elaborate as to why

>>727887
You're just ESL.

Still no actual answer for why having women-only trains and shutter noises on cameras are LE BAD besides "le cishets do it therefore it's LE VERY MEGA BAD".

ngl i was hoping this thread is gonna die but i guess not

>>728282

just do research if you’re pressed by words on a screen made by an anon because you lack thinking comprehension and intelligence

>>727985
Taiwan is a part of China just like 26+6=1.
Japs invaded China and carried out brutal colonial rule over Taiwan.ROC recaptured Tiawan in 1945 and exiled there in 1949.PRC won't "invade" taiwan because the second civil war(The Third Domestic Revolutionary War)was never end.This is China's internal affair.

>>728327

china and taiwan are mongolian

>>728327
>Japs invaded China and carried out brutal colonial rule over Taiwan.
If that's the case why are all the Taiwanese such Japa nophiles

>>728303
What research is there that finds that woman only trains aren't the solution to sexual harassment and assault?
>>728390
They think Japan will save them Xi.

>>728826
we don't need carriage control, we need rapist control

>>728833
How would rapist control look like? Who's going to enforce it considering most people in here believe rape and pedophilic rape are no biggie and you should just let them all off with a warning?

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>>728841
>most people in here believe rape and pedophilic rape are no biggie and you should just let them all off with a warning

big, if true

Most westerners love and suck-off Japan any time they can though, western reactionaries and rightwingers treat Japan as a holy land and any criticism of it, Japanese people, Japanese culture or entertainment at all is basically seen as sacrilege.

>>728844
i remember a chinlet saying once there were not many japanese people on pol because they were all so red pilled they were living in a ideal pol society

>>728845
For how racist they are they sure like to make the proud Nipponese sound like Übermensches when compared to wypippo. Their all intelligent, the women are all pure lotus flowers (but also JAVs are the most finely crafted pornographic content possible and they make the best hentai…..somehow), they all have godlike taste and play and watch only the best, pure Japanese produced masterpieces like Hypershitmension Neptunia and Lucky Shart! They all have 150+ autism score's and no one is a normalfag. Also its hyper-technologically advanced but traditional at the same time! The way these fuckers talk about Japan you would think they were describing the Garden of Eden. Bring up how "wouldn't this make them superior to whites?" and watch them shit their pants and twist into non-euclidean pretzels to try and make up an explanation, or they will just say "MUH JOOZISH CORRUPTION" because nothing says superior like supposedly being "tricked" repeatedly over thousands of years by a supposedly "inferior" race!

>>728844

OP here and that’s unfortunately too. i’ve seen liberals share their experiences with visiting japan whenever someone criticizes the country for its problems. basically treating it like the israel of east asia like it is. it’s crazy how reactionaries are now praising japan when a couple years or decades ago, they were villainizing japan, using religion to call anime “demonic”, and to go as far as to make xenophobic and racist comments about the country all because of a couple bad apples

>>728867
>it’s crazy how reactionaries are now praising japan when a couple years or decades ago, they were villainizing japan
Eh, I would disagree. Beyond a few evangelical retarded boomers Japan has always been praised by conservatives ever since it essentially became a US client state in after WW2. I mean Japans reputation was almost immediately sanitized by the US when the war ended because they needed a model capitalist, Asian state they could point to as "one of the good ones" to try and push their ideology throughout the rest of Asia, even during Japans economic dominance during the 1980's use rarely had actual, massive backlash against Japan or Japanese culture by conservatives beyond said retarded evangelicals I mentioned. Even before anime you had shit like Samurai, Ninjas, etc. being popularized. Even on the internet you still had Japan being sucked off and praised by reactionaries on imageboards, forums and usenet groups and the like.

Can lolifaggots go for one thread without regressing to "akshuly there's nothing wrong with raping children, you fucking christofascist moralfag nazi puriteen"?


>>728853
Nah most of these guys will admit that Asians and Jews have higher autism scores than whites. But often theres a qualifier like saying that Jews have special genes that make them scheming collectivists unlike the noble white man or that Asians are capable of doing complex intellectual work but bad at innovation compared to whites.

people are still replying to this thread? crazy

>>729480

the xitterite found this thread

>>720621
>>720629
>>721648
>>722232
So you guys gonna admit there's less child rape going on over there?
>Inb4 triggered response about how child rape is good but also morally superior for being against the drawings

leftypol users let a thread die challenge go

>>729525
All Xitter antiloli people fucked off to Bluesky and Fediverse, stop obsessing over Xitter.
>>729529
Less compared to where?

>>729538
>All Xitter antiloli people fucked off to Bluesky and Fediverse
Don't talk about fedi if you're not going to use it yourself to know what's up over there. The twitter antiloli weirdos stayed on twitter and some went to bluesky, they refuse to touch fedi with a 10 kilometer pole because they ended up trying to defederate by association when they did try it and resulted in them being stuck in a small, barely active achepeligo, and the ones that didn't either became well adjusted over time or get defederated to shit for trying to cause drama.
Twitters can't cope with simply defederating from stuff, because they're used to weaponizing deplatformation. They can't beg Jack Dorsey to delete Baraag or Misskey, so they consider the entire fediverse to be an act of pedophilia even though those are completely different websites simply running a protocol. Same for chud instances. They need a CEO to beg to whack-a-mole unwanted activity forever and be mad at when that doesn't happen, so they went to bluesky knowing that AT protocol is a miscarriage of a project and the CEO is a redditor womanbaby like they're used to on twitter, a diet Elon.

The rest of fedi aside from mastodon.social is normal about this stuff.

We wouldn't even have this discussion right now if eskimos somehow stayed white instead of getting tanned and developing an inner eye fold.

If japan was white, people would be making badass memes about IJA soldiers raping and pillaging through china and the japanese loli obsession would be seen like the french and italian lolita obsession. Have you seen a french movie from the past century? Real life naked child actresses, lmao. Hollywood and Roman Polanski? Never heard of her!

The place japan meme also wouldn't exist. All the seethe directed at japan is because they are brown, nobody gives a fuck that spain or france killed millions, people still visit those places and aren't called "weeaboos", even the german wehrmacht has apologists that go "b-buh da japanese were worse" and having turd worldists simp for hitler on twitter.

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>>729736
>If japan was white, people would be making badass memes about IJA soldiers raping and pillaging through china and the japanese loli obsession would be seen like the french and italian lolita obsession. Have you seen a french movie from the past century? Real life naked child actresses, lmao. Hollywood and Roman Polanski? Never heard of her!
You think we like the French? Lol. And you just reminded me of the strong French-Japan love affair. Predates all the anime shit by a century. Pedophile game recognizes pedophile game.

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>>729737
>>729737
This is what Anericans think of French men. I have multiple real stories of my female friends and family from Germany and Anerica who have been accosted by French men in France(like the "White" ones.) Actually, I had an experience with a creepy Frenchman who tried to come on to me and my brother when we were 18 and 14. They are a sick race.

>>729737
Anti-french racism exists mostly as a collection of absurdist memes (hon hon baguette [does crab pose] getting stabbed in london in front of the eiffel tower etc…), they still register as white at the end of the day even in the most twitter-derenched chud's mind. Fruity white, but white.

>>729740
I'm telling you, they really are rapist perverts at a degree no other race of man knows. I think Japan is still second to France.

>>729737
>You think we like the French?
Lol stop the cope, even Trump was gay for Macron speaking, and the most people in other European countries can say negatively about France is that they eat frogs on their baguettes, but they are still going to Paris to visit ze Eiffel Tower.

>>729743
>Lol stop the cope, even Trump was gay for Macron speaking, and the most people in other European countries can say negatively about France is that they eat frogs on their baguettes, but they are still going to Paris to visit ze Eiffel Tower.
My German friend who is mixed race was propositioned on the street in France at age 12 with her mother because the Frenchmen thought she was her pimp.

>>729745
And yet you aren't called a pedophile if you watch French cartoons and movies, stunning.

>>729746
No one is calling anyone a pedophile for being into Japanese stuff. Everyone is into some Japanese. Wagyu beef. Sushi. C'mon. If you are into their pedotoons, people will rightly call you a pedo.

>>729747
Pedotoons, as in encompassing all of their cartoons of course. Guess I will switch to watching Peepoodo, lol.

>>729747
And even then people make exceptions for the popular stuff like Made in Abyss and Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, shugging that "there's some uncomfortable scenes but it's still kino."

>>729749
Made in Abyss is kino thoughbeit

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>>729749
I started Made in Abyss and thought it was really cool. I thought the pedo 's'n'm' shit was weird. I didn't continue past a couple episodes.

Anyways, no one would accuse you of being a pedo for liking Miyazhaki, even though he is the one who coined the term lolicon right?

>>729751
>I thought the pedo 's'n'm' shit was weird. I didn't continue past a couple episodes.
It is on my list of endless IPs I never finished. I always think the mangas are better than the anime. I'd rather just read it, but I only watched the anime so far.

>>729751
> I thought the pedo 's'n'm' shit was weird. I didn't continue past a couple episodes.
You know what I'm talking about. It's seared into my brain. Weird shit. That's why you mentioned it. Maybe it gets even more pedosexual, I don't know.

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>>729751
>Miyazhaki,
I don't know why I always misspell his name like that even though I know Japanese transliteration into English. It's like leftover in my brain.

Anyways let me source you all up.

https://gonzobrigadoon.wordpress.com/2020/05/03/article-the-castle-of-doom-and-the-lolicon-boom/
>Lupin is very aware of how young and endangered Clarisse is…and he vocalizes it in a strangely significant manner right before the film’s climax. At about 1 hour and 19 minutes in, Lupin is about to rescue Clarisse, and confronts the Count of Cagliostro, distinctly calling him the “lolicon count” in Japanese. In the official English subtitles, the line is localized as “Lolita-loving count.” The term “lolicon” was not at all common slang in 1979, especially not among general audiences. Hayao Miyazaki would go on to claim Castle of Cagliostro‘s initial box office failure happened because he made it for the fanbase’s “core otaku”. Miyazaki was the lead scriptwriter, so he would have had to approve the use of the word “lolicon”. This begs the question, how did Miyazaki know what that word meant in 1979? Where did he pick it up from? Obviously, it came from fledgling otaku circles who had taken interest in Russell Raymond Trainer’s essay, but the connection is still there. In fact, it seemed as if Clarisse was tailor-made for a certain breed of otaku, all of whom were quite interested in more media about her.

>>729756
Actually I guess Wikipedia says it predates that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon#Background
>The first appearance of the term "Lolita complex" in manga was in Stumbling Upon a Cabbage Patch,[h] an Alice in Wonderland–inspired work by Shinji Wada published in a 1974 issue of the shōjo manga magazine Bessatsu Margaret, where a male character calls Lewis Carroll a man with a "strange character of liking only small children" in an inside joke to adult readers.[29][i] Early lolicon artwork was influenced by male artists mimicking shōjo manga,[30][31] as well as erotic manga created by female artists for male readers.[9]

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>>729757
>Lewis Carroll
Ain't that perfect, it was first coined for that pedo Carroll. All the great nonce races.

My niece is into Alice and Wonderland and American McGee's Alice and all that shit. I guess none of us can let his noncery ruin it for us.

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But, you know, maybe the Germs aren't as pedophillic as the French, but they on some shit. In East Germany, for one they used to publish and sell child porn magazines of prebuscent girls into the 70s, I shit you not. I don't want to have to go look up the proof of this so trust me.

Then there is this thing.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/26/the-german-experiment-that-placed-foster-children-with-pedophiles

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But ain't the original question about a media culture that almost openly endorses pedophilia with a wink and a nod?

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>>729764
>But ain't the original question about a media culture that almost openly endorses pedophilia with a wink and a nod?
I don't even hold all of Japan in judgement. I think most of them would not like to be known for the pedotoons.

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Nothing wrong with liking some loli anime so long as it's within your prescribed dosage.

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>>729771
>Lolicon isn't pedophilia. Lolis don't look like real children, and they don't act like real children. Any lolicon enjoyer would be disgusted by real CP.
https://kotaku.com/rurouni-kenshin-creator-charged-with-possessing-child-p-1820633519

But stop playing dumb. Rurouni Kenshi guy wasn't even so hard in the lolicon thing. You think you are going to gaslight us that all these guys who make lolicon stuff aren't actual pedos?

>>729763
>In East Germany, for one they used to publish and sell child porn magazines of prebuscent girls into the 70s
There were dutch magazines selling cp well into the early 2000s

>>729773
I guess that makes it ok and normal and a cool thing you can tell your friends and relatives.
>>729774
It was a different time.

>>729775
Being a brony is something you don't tell your friends about but that doesn't make it akin to watching CP.

>>729778
>Being a brony is something you don't tell your friends about but that doesn't make it akin to watching CP.

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Found a very funny tag on pixiv.

>>730672
Those aren't lolis.


>>729778
>Being a brony is something you don't tell your friends about
You gotta learn to do rent lowering gunshots or you'll be miserable.

>>731049
damnnn epsteiny rocking the quarter zip trend 🗣️🗣️🗣️

>>731046
>The elites can fuck real children as much as they want, but if a regular John says something pro-lolicon…
>SHUT IT DOWN!!!
quit bitching wigga both should be executed on sight. it should be shut down, obviously.

>>731093
Except you will do nothing about the elite sex trafficking rings and will exclusively focus on harmless lolicons instead.

>>731103
Except it's not at all "harmless" to degenerate the moral fabric of society.

>>731103
Absolute moronic logic. It's like saying because someone can't stop the US war machine from killing people abroad that you shouldn't stop a serial killer from killing a person near you even if you have the means to do so.

>>731106
>stop a serial killer from killing a person
You have delusions of granduer. You're just rambling on the internet.

I can't do anything about imperialist wars so I'll content myself by petitioning for FPS games to be banned.

>>731103
>>731108
>>731121
Why are lolifags so schizophrenic?

>>731434 (in response to >>731121)
>calling out obvious culture war is being a "lolifag"
You're proving their point.

>>731611
You can criticize how some FPS games like Call of Duty perpetuate a pro US military narrative without saying all FPS games are bad. Lolicon is inherently built around the sexualization of biological children which directly makes it pedophiliac. This is just a fact.

bump

>>731612
Just because lolicon is pedophilic doesn't make it harmful.

>>731612
If a discourse's concern is that something is being "sexualized" then it is culture war nonsense. Because you are making a sociological assertion about culture and taking a stance on weather something should or should not be sexual within that culture.

>>731612
Except this is false

Lolicoons should get the bullet simply for how annoying most of them are.


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