Just got caught up with this show. Everyone on reddit hates Them and all the other individuals and thinks that Carol is absolutely right. This website sides with Them, right? They ended war, crime, poverty, animal abuse, and oppression overnight, and made everyone on Earth extremely happy, compassionate, and superintelligent. Only a rich white American would see this as a downgrade.
128 posts and 18 image replies omitted.>>734978They didn't conquer planet earth, they lived on it from the get go.
>>734977The seven hour war would be a seven second war with They's Earth.
>>734977Nuclear bomb vs coughing baby
>>734968Just build a fence dude.
>>734863nah, the hivemind speaks very similarly to a LLM, i think theres some intentionality there
>>735110You have to cut down trees for lunber. Fence is illegal now. Wolf food is mandatory
It was the best of times, it was the plurbst of times.
>>736890Trve, I said based and then we laughed with my gf. It was also funny when Manousos tries to use money and debt to desperately keep the old world ways like a NEPman stumbling onto the anarchist commune.
>>736890Honestly, I would hate to be part of the hivemind but that was kind of cool.
this show turned me off from being a communist
>>736919Join the hive, bitch
>>736906Being part of a hive mind would be cool when you're standing up to bullies or trying to score with a bad bitch.
>>736890Communism in the 21st century is so weak, the anti communist propaganda depicts us as incompetent pacifists. 1984 was a compliment compared to this.
>>736896If your anarcho communes can't survive you have an inferior political ideology.
Slop
>>737047The avatars for capitalism seem equally incompetent tbh.
>>736702He looks like do not redeem saar
>>736906I'd take the combine any time over this wimpy hive
>>736919The combine are communist (the real movement against the present state of things), ((( They ))) are reactionary stagnators wasting precious time and resources not colonizing space and starving out of suicidal pacifism. No true communist ever cared about morals or ethics. Communism is like an infinite genocide on all that stands in the way of real development.
They are fine. The Combine are definitely communist in some capacity but they are also social-imperialist and likely lead by a non-socialist clique. They do not apply proper Maoist strategy to the revolution. They try to impose the revolution from outside, which will never work since the people themselves need to accept the revolution. That is why there was a reactionary rebellion against the combine, because they did not apply dialectial materialism, Marxism, and Maoism correctly. They apply dialectics better.
>>737077The combine needed to do this to every human or they are just leaving contradictions unresolved, that was the major universal union failiure.
I dont know why nerds keep bringing up Half-Life in this thread, Combine doesnt have collective intelligence, they just love showing cybernetics into everything.
Anyway, I feel the pacing of the show is improving, in early episodes I ended up skipping through scenes because the show has bad habit of dragging shots too much, but not once in the last one.
People on reddit keep taking about how pluribus is emotionally manipulating Carol, which seems like a very stupid reading of the material, they have been portrayed as sensitive and emotional collective, genuinely wishing to make everyone happy. Like when it talks how great her trashy novel is, that is not a lie, it wants to get closer to Carol, to know her, her thoughs, her writing are interesting to them.
>>737086>I dont know why nerds keep bringing up Half-Life in this thread, Combine doesnt have collective intelligence, they just love showing cybernetics into everything.feel the same way with commies here thinking its a commentary on capitalism v socialism
>People on reddit keep taking about how pluribus is emotionally manipulating Carol, which seems like a very stupid reading of the material, they have been portrayed as sensitive and emotional collective, genuinely wishing to make everyone happy. Like when it talks how great her trashy novel is, that is not a lie, it wants to get closer to Carol, to know her, her thoughs, her writing are interesting to them.agree somewhat, i think the hive is a lot more "innocent" than people assume, as in, it genuinely wants to make Carol happy, but also, it wants to distract her from her goal of finding a cure
>>737087>but also, it wants to distract her from her goal of finding a cureYeah, but wishing for all survivors to join them is not some underhanded deception, but explicit goal they shared openly. Before it turned out they would need to perform invasive operation to gather bone marrow, they did inform Carol they will turn her whether or not she consents.
>>737097Oh they definetly are working on turning her. They already have what they need and are only buying time. In one of the flashbacks Carol makes an offhand comment about having her egg cells frozen.
>no private property
>everyone living communally because its efficient
>everyone sharing thoughts and being happy
<nooo joining them is literally worse than death
Absolute state of humanity chauvinists.
>>737468They aren’t humanitarian chauvinists.
They’re INDIVIDUALISTS.
Huge difference
They wouldn’t spare a second to help out a fellow human being
>>737468But they don't do anything with that new efficiency, no art, no new stories to tell, nothing. It's ultimately a worthless existence.
>>737492Why does everything always have to be about “creating a legacy”?
Do you assume that other species of animals have meaningless existence just because they don’t create art or stories to be passed down for posterity?
>>737501yes, that's why I have no qualms about eating them
>>737492This is exactly example of human chauvinism. Why do you say they have no creativity or purpose when clearly they do. They have goals, do science, try to solve problems of immune individuals, food shortage, figure out how joining actually works, build a giant space transmitter, just to name things explicitely brought up in the show.
>>737523All except one of these actions are related to sustaining and spreading the disease. They wouldn't even have a single thought beyond that, if it weren't for the uninfected.
>>737492They were fascinated by art
slop done by the main Karen. But yes it seems like they are more focused on building the antenna as their grand project. What comes after that is a mystery.
>>737468like 99% of people wouldnt want to join because we just prefer to be individuals. doesnt matter how efficient it is if its all meaningless
>>737548This.
Irony is though, the people who are against hive minds will complain about technology making people more isolated/lonely when people were self-segregated before the first television set
>>738551>it happened to breaking bad, better call saulway to out yourself as a midwit. did you skip the therapy scenes in sopranos too lmao
>>738551Is this about the latest episode that most people hated? Episode had a grieving widow try and fool herself into believing she didn't need human connection to the point she nearly killed herself meanwhile the one person she inspired is trekking through one of the most inhospitable places on earth to see her and apparently that's "boring".
It's kinda funny how much people want this show to be a mystery box a la Severance and miss out on a really moving treatise on grief and the inability to comprehend an ever changing world.
>>738552Think they genuinely cracked the code with Mike in early BCS, watching him do absolutely nothing for minutes on end and somehow make it the most compelling shit ever is some of the most memorable stuff in those earlier seasons.
>>738566>Is this about the latest episode that most people hated?Did they? I saw pretty much exclusively positive reactions.
>>738551>until interest in the show dies down at which point the show will be clumsily concluded. it happened to breaking bad, better call saulYou almost got me with this bait, but you pushed it too far near the end.
its a story about treatlerism but you guys arent ready for that conversation. manousous is a based schizo who can see through the BS
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