I literally never browse imageboards, my friend who is significantly more chronically online than me (we spend the same amount of time online but he just does more random browsing) introduced me to these, why is it every single image board i come across seems radicalized? e.g. nazi trans flags / white power flags etc
obviously my first site was 4 chan, i posted ~3 times on the lgbt board & made like 2 friends, stopped talking to them shortly after, then my friend showed me soyjak party, then recently showed me end chan & this.
i'm a left leaning person, considered a moderate liberal and it seems like i dont even have a place here.
im genuinely curious. i dont know the culture here and it seems like i dont fit in because everyone seems significantly more extreme than me.
am i socially inept? or am i not socially inept enough to fit in here? i dont really fit in anywhere on the internet it seems.
Try some of the older imageboards like 7chan. But the quality of imageboards over all have been declining since the late 2000s. Im surpised it has survived this long.
centrists don't need imageboards because they have literally every social media platform in existence.
imageboards are for radicals who get auto censored or banned from the mainstream platforms. it's not rocket science.
Nobody is stopping you from pisting here
80% of posters here never touched a book in their lives anyway let alone read anything of Marx
>i'm a left leaning person, considered a moderate liberal and it seems like i dont even have a place here.
What do you think of Russia and Ukraine, Gaza, the DPRK ((north) korea), China and the European Union?
Try banging your head against the wall until you get brain damage and lose consciousness. Afterwards you will fit right in here.
>>749846so imageboards are more for the politically aligned radicalizm? im just kind of bad at making friends with other people online as everyone is either too sensitive to interact with me or too much of a horrible person lmao i usually get banned from most servers or communities i go into for the most part. ive reached very small microcelebrity status on a few socials and then immediately got "cancelled" / hatemobbed for opinions i find normal or even just straight satire.
i dont fit in on normal social media and it seems like everyone on here is pretty much schizo-ing out alot or just very deeply chronically online, not that im not or meaning any disrespect to users here lol just having trouble finding a place online again so id thought id ask here because it doesnt seem as unhinged as 4chan or soyjak which my friend constantly uses
>>749851i dislike israel & will support palestine over it any day (i view it as the better of the two not so great choices. i think netanyahu is modern day hitler lol)
otherwise i dont really stay tapped into politics / things outside of america as im american, and prefer to stay ignorant to things instead of opening myself up to horrors that have nothing to do with me as it seems to only add more stress.
just came here because my friend had told me it was a left-leaning board and i might like it so i gave it a shot
>>749855Imageboards are more toxic than mainstream social media platforms.
You should see some of the shit that's been written on here
>>749855There are some non-political image/text-boards, I won't tell you about them since now what you must do is to lurk moar, lurk some months without posting anything so you learn about the general IB culture and for example learn how to respond to two posts at the same time and so
>>749857Well, most politics here are (gradly) not about the US. Even then, you are a liberal
>>749858Shave all your body hair. If you don't have then she's(?) Going to shave your skin so you better grow some body hair.
>>749863im very socially liberal i think. im nonbinary & pan, and my economic stance is somewhat liberal i think we should have a progressive taxing system and better government funding & better healthcare etc.
also idk what picreel means i am a newfag to all the lingo and etc
>>749855Create a YouTube channel, and then your own board. Then you'll have a place where your opinion is the majority.
>>749860
>and for example learn how to respond to two posts at the same timeafter im doing with this thread i'll likely go back to lurking but it seems pretty intuitive to just click on both numbers and seperate the formatting lol thank you though
>>749855My advice for you is to forget the internet and go live in the real world. I dont care if you are socially inept. Maybe go find a neurodivergent gf who reads smut literature. Anything is better than wasting time on imageboards.
>>749867>think we should have a progressive taxing system and better government funding & better healthcareHoly reformist
>>749874>Maybe go find a neurodivergent gf who reads smut literatureIf it was only that easy…
>>749867> picreelPic related
The image that the anon attaches to his post, or talks about another poster's image
>>749874
>My advice for you is to forget the internet and go live in the real world.i dropped out of highschool due to being unable to associate with other people and it negatively affecting my mental health so badly i literally started starving due to not wanting to eat lmao i dont do good with people & im also not seeking relationships. ive already wasted 8 years terminally on discord and discord is getting boring why not find a new platform to rot on? maybe ill find some place where im not a reject
>>749878ohhh alright thank you!!
>>749848bc we have other interests you dork. you theory nerds gotta dripfeed us theory by combatting the ignoramuses here while we lurk in the background and give our half baked opinions so we can further self-critique. how can you not see this
>>749879Honestly we need alternative schooling for socially inept people.
It's not necessary to shove three dozen children into one airtight classroom.
If anything, socially and neurocognitively disabled people need to have blue collar education.
>>749883i think it just ended up being consistently overstimulating and stressing me out. i was homeschooled for 2-8th grade and then thrown into 9th grade with no socialization and im pretty sure im autistic from what my psychiatrist told me
i started out interacting with everyone but no one really liked me so i just quickly went from very friendly and talkative to speaking to no one from bullying and becoming quiet and / or sleeping through classes. im okay socializing in small areas i think i do somewhat okay at my job but when im around more than like 10 people at once i start to get extremely stressed out and upset
>>749863>Muh centrists are fashy lite I see more discriminatory behaviors from extreme left than from centrists relative to rightism
>>749887>I see more discriminatory behaviors from extreme leftSuch as?
>>749886You know that people justify public schooling with the socialization excuse?
Whats the point of learning at school is socialisation is the key?
School is unnecessary for socialization because kids learn how to interact with others through family time, chores, and playtime.
The problem is, parents would rather have teachers an doctors raise the younguns for them so they can fuck off to whatever idle business they got.
>>749890Alot of complaints about "muh wokeness" or "muh gooners" or whining about "muh ethnics" just because they disagree with one aspect of socialism
>>749891I don't really have any other family im an only child and i only interact with my dad when i leave my room.
i live with my grandparents but theyre very disconnected from me & also stress me out consistently with their bickering between eachother and making things that arent issues issues (like most boomers do) so i spend like 12 hours a day on my computer nowadays. i grew up either just reading books in my room and never going outside or watching tv.
i think i was just a little unlucky from the start and especially more in todays world because im seen as cringe or weird by everyone when i socialize, & then when im quiet im suddenly a "school shooter" to the point where so many kids make jokes about it people who sit next to me get taken in for questioning to see if im really gonna shoot up the school.
bad combo of neurodivergence & zero socialization and social anxiety i guess im just fucked lolz.
the only people who want to interact with me are parasocial people who know me from actions i do online and admire me for being popular in discord coms a while ago so i view that as weird and never reply to them
>>749897Honestly, I think people romanticise school days because of media.
If anyone were to really remember school days without the glamor of pop culture, you'd realize it's dull.
I think schools should be strictly workshops where kids learn basic home training and mechanics.
Most adults are incapable of remembering anything academic from their school days but they remember all the dumb teenage shenanigans they committed
It's especially sad to see/hear adults say to kids "never grow up/cherish your schooldays cuz work sucks."
If you're over twenty three and you sincerely believe school was the peak of your life, you fucked up grandly.
Either that or you don't appreciate your newfound prospects.
>>749899problem is for me i never got any dumb teenage shenanigans. only time i sneak out is when im upset and just dont wanna be home and ill wander to a park and just fall asleep on a bench or sit there on my phone for hours.
ive lived most of my life indoors because when i try to live outside of my house it ends up significantly worse. its not like i got bad grades or anything even when i didnt pay attention i was a b average student its not like im retarded i just stopped caring
im freshly 18 and im kind of already thinking my life is over i dont see any way out of this isolation hell which is miserable because ever since i was young the feeling of being lonely felt like torture. it still does and ive never made an actual close real life friend ever.
>im 18 and my life is over
GO FUCK YOURSELF
>>749902what am i supposed to do? i cant socialize i cant make friends im not talented at anything in specific and i have no feasable way of making friends especially considering im not in school.
being cruel to me for saying this does nothing but confuse me. i have 0 way out man
>>749842the reason why image boards tend to be more edgy is because you can say things on them you cant really say on anywhere else like reddit or tiktok plus there are lots of places for libs and centrists the same cannot be said about commies and nazis (allthough xitter is kinda open to them)
>>749857MLPol[0] is a great centrist imageboard focused on American politics
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https://mlpol.net/ >>749910i actually fw bronies i think theyre cool asf im not one myself but thank you this is fire i appreciate this i wasnt aware of this peak
>>749905Nvm them anon.
People like
>>749902 will console people over twenty five whom fucked up their own life or older people who already had success and are going thru midlife crisis
Yet any actual young people with no success nor happiness are told that they have to keep on.
>>749910>great "centrist" imageboard>first banner i see is a swastikaclassic
>>749901>problem is for me i never got any dumb teenage shenanigansHow is that a problem?
That shit is not as good as pop culture makes it out to be.
What teens need is a proper training in worldly affairs.
Teenage shenanigans being normalized is due to modern society thinking adolescence is natural.
>>749913thanks for being understanding lol<3
does china have a notable anonymous image board
>>749915it provides life experience does it not? id rather have fun and deal with a few extra problems so i can learn from the mistakes rather than literally just never experience anything but being inside all day on my phone or pc
ive been completely burnt out since i was like 14 because of all this
>>749917I think they have two. I don't remember the domain since I think both of their domains are purely numeric. But if you search for them you will find them
this is the most active thread /siberia/ has had in years, how self-absorbed of us
>>749924could just be because ive had this open on my desktop since i made the initial post on the thread and immediately replying because i have nothing else to do lol
>>749924Newgene is back that's a big reason why
>>749914I mean, duh, it is the center between the Hammer and Sickle and a Black Sun
>>749921>Doing dumb shit provides life experience so I can learn from my mistakesYou know that saying that "smart people learn from their mistakes, wise people learn from others mistakes"?
I really fucking hate this common philosophy of normalizing unnecessary reckless stupidity in youth as "learning experience".
Irony is, that kind of life experience is what makes society stagnant and leads to people like yourself.
Adolescence is unnatural.
Puberty is though.
>>749930either way i think id be significantly happier if i was retarded and causing issues in society and not rotting all day on the internet. id rather contribute negatively to society at this point than be isolated for eternity even though that makes me sound like a completely dogshit human being. im so sick of yearning for human connection or feeling like a normal person dude i shouldve had it years ago
>>749931C'mon now.
Why do people feel like they have to have some sort of influential impact on the world?
>If I cannot be rich and famous from being an professional entertainer I'm gonna be a mass shooter >>749931Why not go befriend the elderly or disabled kids of you're so desperate for human connection?
There's so many people whom are left behind to rot away in the gutters, physically and metaphorically
>>749936because i feel like id be interacting with them out of pity or sympathy instead of genuinely enjoying their company. im self destructive with alot of my own behaviors lmao i just want a genuine friend not an old woman or a child with down syndrome. its not like id despise talking to them but itd eventually feel like a chore i think
>>749935mostly due to watching youtubers and loving musicians to a parasocial extent growing up and wanting to be a youtuber since i was 7 years old lmao.
all i want is validation from people and to be shown love or to be adored and i cant really change it no matter how many times my online friends tell me its harmful. its ingrained into me. i just wanna be a someone & make an impact and maybe help other people feel better if i could make them laugh or give the idea of someone who could relate.
when i was younger i listened to music to feel less alone or i watched youtube videos to laugh at things & get my mind off things and ever since its been something i wanted to do. and i mean ive tried and i got a little far. i had a couple thousand followers on tiktok and a couple million views but immediately got hatemobbed into oblivion when i did something wrong
my music has like a few people who listen every once in a while and will like a song or two but i just dont feel successful until i reach a satisfactory amount of people who recognize me. maybe it ties into my ego a bit aswell because i wanna be proud of myself for creating a big audience or something
>>749941That is the joke retard
>>749938So you think elderly and disabled kids are not your speed for socialization?
That's exactly how normal people think about you.
I'm autistic and I'm more normal than you yet I don't see you as a chore.
I have alot more normal people whom I feel is tiresome to interact with.
But if it makes you feel better, I wanna let you in on a secret:
SOCIALIZATION IS OVERRATED.
If you ever had a social life in your childhood, you'd notice that most social lives are just idle roaming of parks and malls waiting for something cool to happen.
Or waiting for some attractive peer of the opposite sex to take interest in you.
Wishes in one hand, shit in the other.
Socialization is only fulfilling if you have a hobby/craft to bring to the table
>>749944The need for validation for one's work is normal.
I get that.
Also you're further along than me in the music department.
>>749949its not that they arent my speed i just couldnt relate at all.
im not an old person or significantly disabled. im just somewhat neurodivergent and i lead an unfortunate life.
i would keep going on about this but i think this is kind of like we're both talking to a wall & have very different ideas of what we want out of life and what the goals are.
i thrive off of socialization and being loved and its literally all i crave and yearn for consistantly. it felt amazing when i got my first video with 600k views or so and so many people liking it and finding me funny it was probably better than any drug ive done.
im just desperate to be a someone to not only other people but myself. i feel like im decently smart and im good at some things and im just completely unrecognized but that could just be me being retarded like every other retarded person who thinks theyre a genius.
i stopped wanting to genuinely end my life & stopped nearly crying myself to sleep nightly when i found an online friend that genuinely likes and appreciates talking to me from an emotional connection standpoint not activity based, aswell as a very niche fanbase that i had for a temporary time
>>749951its not even like im working because i really enjoy the work i just enjoy seeing the results & how it affects people.
i mean maybe with music i enjoy the work a little more as opposed to creating videos and stuff but its still mostly just to see the plays and likes and the few comments every once and a while telling me they love my songs. itll genuinely make me want to cry from actually feeling like i did something good
>>749953>its not that they arent my speed i just couldnt relate at all.
>im not an old person or significantly disabled. im just somewhat neurodivergent and i lead an unfortunate life.You don't think people of two different age groups or differing disabilities don't have intersection in social treatment?
You're socially inept which is on the same level as autism, despite autism being a neurocognitive disorder rather than a social one
Elderly people are neglected and are only paid attention to when they have money to pay for caretakers.
Who cares about "I cannot relate to these people"?
This whole idea about "Relatability" in entertainment and socializing is solipsism and is just a polite way of discrimination.
>>749955Make some sophisticated pop music.
Like on the level of Brian Wilson or Burt Bacharach or even Kanye West
>>749957i guess im just a selfish person then man i dont really know what to tell you.
im completely unable to form an emotional connection with those people because they are literally not on the same wavelength as me. just because im an outcast doesnt mean i fit in with every other outcast. thats like saying someone like alex jones would interact well with leafyishere because theyre both pretty much nuked and hated off the internet when im pretty sure leafy would just end up thinking hes a retard and hating him.
Are you specifically trying to make yourself into an image board browser for some reason? Imageboards focused on politics tend to be extremist I would say because of the anonymous culture. If you want to talk about moderate left leaning politics there is like reddit, unironically. lgbt on 4chan isn't even that chuddy imo, just constantly under raids because it's sort of in the awkward place of being a lgbt space on the internet that does not discourage cis het men from posting.
>>749961I'm not asking you to fit in.
You're the one begging for friends.
But the thing is, socialisation is a one-shot deal.
You either go along with it in childhood or end up as a loser.
And nobody wants to spend time for losers.
>>749964>imo, just constantly under raids because it's sort of in the awkward place of being a lgbt space on the internet that does not discourage cis het men from postingWhy do people always assume cishet males are the only enemy to LGBT?
You do know there are racist LGBT folk and LGBT phobic women?
friends are overrated, just talk to yourself
>>749969You will regret it.
t. Constantly daydreaming
>>749967100% agree. Some of those people are definitely around, and I wasn't trying to imply that it was exclusively because of that. I just think a lot of the chudposting there is not coming from actual lgbt people as much as 4chan users from other boards, who are mostly men, who are there basically to jerk it to nudes.
>>749975Maybe, maybe not. It really depends.
>>749977You will definitely regret it.
>>749967>Why do people always assume cishet males are the only enemy to LGBT?They have been brainwashed by gay misandrist
>>749969The other day I saw a military-aged man talking to himself very loudly through the street and he gave me the ick
>>749982Some days I do kind of regret it but I generally don't like being around people. It's nice to have someone to talk to if you can really converse with them and find some sort of understanding. But I usually just prefer my own company since being around others often makes me quite anxious and feel like I always need to say something until I click with them. If that's how I'm often feeling I'd rather be alone.
i got introduced to this image board because of some guy on discord constantly glazing this place
i do agree imageboards are more toxic than social media despite me being pro abolitionist for both
>>750226they are more toxic but they are better
>>750243>>750226Imageboards are tame now compared to twitter lol
>>750248I think Varg Vikernes got banned from Xitter so maybe we are not there yet
I also see more rape-cheering here than on Xitter
take it from someone who has spent the last 20 years on imageboards: they are dogshit. every single one.
well, every single one that isn't about japanese trains, full of japanese posters.
the format is basically sound, but outside japan they're almost all culturally derived from or otherwise associated with 4chan, which gives them a stupid set of norms and cultural behaviors that prevent them rising to their full potential. the only good thing about imageboards is that you don't have to register and that you can swap names quickly or go nameless. nobody really understands this, so you get stupid opinions about moderation being bad, about free speech being essential to the format, and a stupid culture of insularity and circlejerking closed-mindedness all the worse because it imagines itself to be genuinely open and free. even /leftypol/, which established a pretty good culture in the past, one that really used leftist infighting to generate new and exciting posts, now has a fairly homogenous (and stupid, and wrong) ideological monoculture.
if you think you can make it on any regular site where you have a consistent identity you should do your damndest to do so. it might've taken 20 years, but i can safely say now: they aren't worth using. a few cheap laughs aren't worth the cost of completely forgetting how to actually hold a conversation online, how to interact under a username where you can't just abandon points when you don't like them anymore, how to be polite, when it's appropriate to reach out to other people, and all sorts of other awkward frictions that come with being a real human being and not just a head vomiting words onto a page.
>>750258p.s. please give me advice on how to leave. someone should write a guide to using twitter/bluesky/discord/tumblr for 4chan retards.
(and an actually useful one at that, not just "don't say slurs here", i'm not
that retarded.)
OP, I felt the same as you, which is why I made
https://libpol.org about a year ago
We're at 1.3 million posts (though it's cheating due to the nature of the site)
Despite the name, we aren't only for liberals. Though the goal is to have a left-of-center board that isn't centered around Marxism or socialism. We accept everyone from communists to laissez-faire neoliberals, so long as they aren't socioculturally right-wing.
>>750273Don't want to be rude, but looks kinda dead.
>>750273oh this is some cool shit
>>750286join the top thread on the overboard and play with it, this is the most remarkable thing i've seen on an imageboard in decades lol.
>>750273I took a shit there
>>750288>I took a shit thereThanks
>>750287We have a lot of other cool features too, and more coming within a few weeks or months.
>>750286>Don't want to be rude, but looks kinda dead.It's one of those sites where every board and thread is dead except for one thread which is pretty-active-to-very-active nearly 24/7, usually with several posts per minute. If we ever get more users there should be more than one active thread, eventually.
>>749858i thought it followed the series of fetish art about anime girls shaving guys dicks and balls
>>749842>why are all imageboards like thisMore like why are all social media like this.
Zero difference between 4cuck and Reddit or Instagram at this point.
>>749842>soyjak partymalware website, you're fucked
>>749842>i'm a left leaning person, considered a moderate liberalahahahahahahahhahaha
outside the united states you're considered right wing, and justly so. you exist to preserve capitalism no matter how many crises it goes through and no matter how close it comes to destroying the world. ohh… is that "extreme?" maybe, but it's the truth.
>>749929swastikas and black suns are both nazi symbols you massive retard
>>750311You act more like your age but with special form of baggage rather than any actual teen.
Also, adolescence is artificial and unfortunately not limited to teens.
>>750248Idk man.
Soyjak and 4chan produced school shooters and drop boxed cheese pizza.
>>750243They're better for people who love being toxic and cringe for the sake of spiting "normies"
>moderate liberal
You come to a communist, and to a lesser degree an anarchist board and you are surprised you don't fit in? Get a clue you imbecile.
>>750313hi im op i was sleeping midday but i would say there is imo!
every imageboard i go to is different from normal social media, the only people who even talk like this are usually larps, id say the only forum that isnt like this is looksmax.org and its not that different
>>750378sorry. like i said i dont really know how to even judge how most boards are aligned. i saw left leaning and didnt know it was extreme-left until i got on it later. my bad
>>749966so why would you even converse with me if i have no possibility of actually making real friends or socializing with people my age
>>750384>looksmax.org oh you're more fucked than any of us here LMAO
>>750384The shit looksmax users are posting have been posted by misc and /fit/ a decade before, OP. Theres literally no difference between social media platforms.
>>749842>why is every image board radicalized? a "radical" looks at the "root cause" to explain contradictions: Marxists talk about class relations and modes of production, feminists talk about gender, racialists talk about ethnic strife, disability thinkers talk about ableism and eugenics etc
> it seems like i dont even have a place herehave you tried learning basic historical materialism 101? watch some Michael Parenti video clips, bonus points for Kwame Ture
>>750258> a few cheap laughs aren't worth the cost of completely forgetting how to actually hold a conversation online, how to interact under a username where you can't just abandon points when you don't like them anymoreAbolition of the social capital commodity form
>>750340Didn't the "duh" help you think it was irony?
>>750334>you exist to preserve capitalism inane and underthought: the random individual supporters of liberalism do little to support actually-existing liberalism. the great thing about a system is that it exists without much regard for "support" as such.
imagine you are in prison: what does it matter if you support or oppose your jailors? you are in prison. the pro-jailor prisoners are no more responsible for this fact than the anti-jailor prisoners.
>>750378this site peaked when it had a handful of rightists in a pen to fight + a chunk of libs and socdems to argue current events with.
that this ultimately failed and lead to the current boring circlejerk is a solid case for starting again with a site full of libs and socdems with a chunk of communists to argue current events with.
>>750402i used to think in terms of abolition of social capital but until that's happening, better to build it and to share it than to pretend it's not a factor.
on the margin, the best thing i can do in the world is find artists with low engagement and tell them that i like their work. if you look at the single most effective action i can take to improve how people feel, it's that.
>>750388i barely post on it i just browse it if i wanna do research on how to fix insecurities i have with my face lmao i dont think im worse off than anyone here because if i was i would be easily able to interact with people.
just because i browse a website once a month doesnt mean i share the opinions. the only person i converse with from there is afroheadluke who is a troll and purely satirical lol im not brainrotted by it i just hyperfixate on my looks because i grew up ugly and even though im considered maybe average or above now i still wish i could look better.
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Go to 4cuck, it's mostly liberals and centre-leftists now, /pol/ leakage has been mostly patched and that containment chamber will probably be shutdown in a couple years.
>>750501Can I post there "I'm trans" without getting a response like "kys transhumanist you will never be…"?
>>750510All the popular boards are still right leaning, doe.
>>750510No, but for trolling purposes that could actually be a boon.
>>7505014cuck just follows the ideology of whatever is unpopular at the moment it was once left leaning in its early days but as the culture shifted so did their views it seems like its happening again
>>750501Rapeape runs the site and actively promotes /pol/shit, this will never happen
>>750501I recently went to /g/ for the first time in years to get a small issue solved and every post was a paranoid screed about how Linux has been captured by CIA transhumanists or some shit
>>750547>whatever is unpopularVice versa. All those "anti-woke" videos on YT were a literal reflection of what was being pushed on 4chan.
Or do you think imageboards are some kind of elite place, out of the reach of political bots? Boards are literally the perfect place for propaganda, with their anonymity.
>>750586imageboards are probably the easiest for bots since you don't need a login tbqh
>>750510>>750501Apologies for repeated shameless self-shilling, but:
>>750273>>750571>Rapeape runs the site and actively promotes /pol/shitNo idea if it's true but I recently heard a rumor that RapeApe is apparently half-hispanic or something. (Which would be the most unsurprising thing in the world. But, still.)
But yeah, anyone saying 4chan is mostly center-left is obviously insane. I would not be surprised if there are more leftists than liberals on 4chan. Either way, most boards are > 85% right-wing.
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